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The pointless miracles of modern technology

David Hepworth's picture

This morning in Sainsburys I saw the word "Boysenberry", which made me think of Simon & Garfunkel's tune "Punky's Dilemma" because this features the line "I prefer Boysenberry more than any ordinary jam". All the way home I was singing that song to myself. Before we'd emptied the shopping bags I dialled up that tune on Spotify, plugged the ipod into the speaker system in the kitchen and found myself listening to the record with a dopey "isn't that a miracle?" look on my face.

I can't get over those moments when technology makes it possible for you to either do something you couldn't do before or do something quicker and with greater convenience. I have however noticed that there's little point trying to share my excitement with my wife because she will quite rightly point out that all I had to do was go upstairs and get out the record itself, which I've no doubt got in about fifty different versions. She doesn't understand what a kick I get from moments like these.

I hate finishing these posts off with a question but if you know what I mean please share.

2

Tsk.

One does something 'more quickly'.

Having said that, I know exactly what you mean, though I do find those moments often threatened by the gulf between the theoretical and the practical reality.

"Oh wow, YES!, you MUST listen to this!...."

silence

tumbleweed

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Vulpes Vulpes | 19 September 2009 - 7:11pm

I was typing quick...

...hence the error.

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David Hepworth | 19 September 2009 - 7:13pm

A pedant writes...

"Quick" is both adjective and adverb. Hence the phrase "get rich quick".

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Inky Fingers | 20 September 2009 - 8:28am

although

Most authorities consider the use of "quick" as an adverb as "informal" or even "substandard" (eek!)

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timjulian | 20 September 2009 - 12:05pm

im sitting in the kitchen

Waiting for the pasta to cook commenting on this post using my blackberry. No wires, just a phone, connected to the internet. Wow! We do take.this stuff for granted don't we?

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Dave Amitri | 19 September 2009 - 7:14pm

Blackberries are so over

Boysenberries are the hot new thing...

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DougieJ | 19 September 2009 - 8:57pm

The Internet... *THAT* still amazes me.

Mind you, I still struggle to understand electricity.

I seem to remember reading somewhere that the Internet has now overtaken the telephone system as the single most complex machine created by mankind.

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stimpy | 21 September 2009 - 10:53am

What? the telephone system...

...more complicated than, say the Space Shuttle, or an aircraft carrier? Shurely Shome...

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nicktf | 24 September 2009 - 12:46am

The entire worldwide (cabled) telephone system

is a single machine with billions of interconnected parts.

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stimpy | 24 September 2009 - 7:30am

So is...

...an hourglass. But it's not complicated.

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Inky Fingers | 24 September 2009 - 7:54am

Nooooooooo...

The billions of components of an hourglass aren't interconnected in any way other than all being sand in the same container.

I can pick up a phone and be physically connected to any other landline in the world (OK, some of the cables have now been replaced by satellite links, but the prinicple is the same)

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stimpy | 24 September 2009 - 2:54pm

I think we might have interpreted "complex" differently

The phone system may have "billions" of components, but the vast majority of them will operate on similar principles/be identical hardware. Something like the shuttle will have a far more diverse range of components, and I'd imagine the majority of them are bespoke.

Disclaimer - I am poffling on about something without any facts or evidence. For all I know the Space Shuttle is made from parts available in Woolworths :-)

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nicktf | 24 September 2009 - 9:16pm

both are meanings of "complexity"

the one stimpy is referring to is indeed about what happens when you strongly interconnect many similar things with similar rules. The internet is perhaps the most spectacular example, and is receiving intense study because of the speed with which it is growing, the amount of data people can access about it, and the fact it hasn't simply been designed all at once. First 20 pages of the pdf slides here would give a flavour of why people are so interested:

http://www.newton.ac.uk/programmes/PDS/seminars/033116301.html

The Shuttle was designed in one go, relatively speaking, but has still surprised its designers e.g. bits of the external tank fell off quite frequently long before Columbia's accident, despite this being something that wasn't supposed to happen at all. Some of its parts are now so hard to get that rather than Woollies, NASA has been reduced to searching on eBay iirc.

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SpaceBoy | 25 September 2009 - 8:46am

In fact they have to come to Deptford's

most secret shop "the semiconductor archive" which for a long time I thought was an art thing (Deptford is that sort of place) but is a business which sells valves, old chips sometimes as you say to governments. (of course it would be a good album title/band name)

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Chris G | 25 September 2009 - 9:29am

File next to

the Monochrome Set I guess ?

Somehow I feel Zilog and the Z80s would be my chosen name ...

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SpaceBoy | 25 September 2009 - 10:02am

when you strongly interconnect many similar things with similar

"when you strongly interconnect many similar things with similar rules. The internet is perhaps the most spectacular example"

The brain is an even more spectacular example :-)

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stimpy | 25 September 2009 - 1:39pm

Football scores

Sky Sports Score Centre on the iphone. Whilst at a child's birthday party this afternoon.

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Leedsboy | 19 September 2009 - 7:17pm

Yes but...

I was a gig on Friday night (Elbow if you must know) and half way through the set some plonker behind me was checking scores on his thingumyjig and sharing them with his mates. So its not all wonderful. The gig was though.

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Mark Godden | 20 September 2009 - 4:40pm

Oh don't get me started on gig behaviour.....

but it did keep me from chewing nails at a kids party.

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Leedsboy | 20 September 2009 - 6:58pm

That might...

.....have been me. There was only one game on Friday I think (Sheffield derby). The game had been switched to Friday night to accomodate Sky, therefore putting my companion (a Sheff Wed season ticket holder) in a quandry. Elbow tickets had been purchased well in advance.

Cue weeks of agonising between much-cherished band, or local football bragging rights

He chose Elbow.

So, he set his Sky+, and I decide to play Brian Glover during the gig.

Apologies of this was a bit annoying, but there was some context. And I didn't take any photos with my thingumyjig, if that's any consolation!

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Bignothing1 | 20 September 2009 - 7:46pm

Ok, excused

If it was you, you weren't nearly as annoying as the woman in front of me filming the final song on her mobile phone. What IS the point of that? Why not enjoy the moment?

Apologies for starting yet another gig behaviour thread.

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Mark Godden | 23 September 2009 - 12:12am

I do know what you mean...

I bought a book the other day called Pressed In Time American Prints 1905-1950 which is an absolutely beautiful collection of images. I was particularly taken with a print made in 1929 by Martin Lewis titled 'Glow in the City' and wanted to see if there was a book available just of his work. I went straight to the Alibris book search site, entered his name and came up with a rare but affordable out of print hardback. I haven't bought it yet, but the point is that I know that it's out there and I know where to find it. It struck me that 10 or so years ago I'd have been traipsing around bookshop after bookshop looking for it, probably to no avail. Now I press some keys on my computer and it appears as if by magic.

I'm not certain that this is entirely a good thing... I remember well the thrill of finding a book or a record I'd been after for years in some dusty corner of a second hand shop, but the fact that I have such an easy alternative at my disposal is nevertheless extraordinary.

Glow in the City by Martin Lewis

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Patrick Crowther | 19 September 2009 - 7:21pm

Alibris is BRILLIANT isn't it?

I got an out-of-print cookery book there only a few weeks back; it's in pristine condition and was delivered to my door. It may deny me the (eventual) thrill of finding the title for myself in a shop in Hay or elsewhere, but it's saved me an awful lot of time and petrol.

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Vulpes Vulpes | 19 September 2009 - 8:00pm

Art

Once upon a time, if a book referred to the work of an artist but there was no illustration you'd either have to imagine it or shlep around the library trying to find an example. Now, you just whack the title into Google and up it comes. I love this. I'd always feel that my understanding of what was being written was somehow undermined by not knowing what the work looked like. Now, a few moments on the internet and I can return to my book satisified.

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Con Coleman | 20 September 2009 - 3:07pm

I like the bookfinder site too

http://www.bookfinder.com

a bit more text-based, but which I appreciate because it picks up all kinds of variations on the way that an online bookseller might list or categorise a book. Perhaps of most use for something that's very elusive.

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DLM | 20 September 2009 - 4:01pm

Also ABEBooks

for old and out of print stuff. 6 or 7 years ago, I found 4 volumes of Recording Britain (A project started in 1939 to record the important buildings and locations of the country, in case they were destroyed in the War). My wife was after them at the time.
By luck, the dealer, who I thought was in Hampshire, had moved about 3 miles away and actually brought the books round! I paid cash and bingo - instant gift.
I also found all sorts of Eduardo Palaozzi stuff on the same site.

It's amazing how so may booksellers in different countries can be linked and you can compare the condition and price of the same item in minutes.

Online brokerage and intermediation eh!

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Badlands | 20 September 2009 - 6:42pm

Google maps on my phone is witchcraft

the first time I use it I was literally in bed under the covers at a friends house. I was being nagged to get up and find out when our train left but it was cold morning and it was not our house. But a few clicks on my phone I found the nearest trin station and the times and could roll over saying "i'd done it". Even so even when it worked and the train pulled in at the right time my technology wasn't praised. Being able to zoom into your position on you phone is truly amazing and yet common place.

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Chris G | 19 September 2009 - 7:58pm

It's all good

- but where's my jet-pack?

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Sheev | 19 September 2009 - 8:19pm

I know it's a joke

but this riposte always annoys me.
http://www.jetpackinternational.com/
Whenever the media talk about the future/technology they always go "we were promised jet-packs, silver suits and meals of pills" well you can have a jet pack if you want one and a silver suit (they looked rubbish in 1950's and look dodgy now) and we neck millions of food supplements everyday you can even get wrist watch TVs and robot hoovers.
Oh and some nutters even knocking a hover car. In fact an early one is the name of a not bad band (made up of members of epic45) http://www.myspace.com/avrocar

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Chris G | 19 September 2009 - 8:42pm

It's all good

- but where's my beam me up teleporter?

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Sheev | 19 September 2009 - 9:36pm
Chris G | 20 September 2009 - 12:23am

22 hours

I read a marvellous book some 20 years ago by a chap called Alexander Dolgun, titled simply 'Dolgun', which told of his abduction by the Russian secret service in Moscow in 1948 and his subsequent years in the Gulag.

It was and remains a marvellous narration of his astonishing survival. I read it several times until I made the phenomenal error of lending it to someone. Naturally I never saw it again.

Over the years since then whenever I found myself in a second-hand bookshop I would try and spot a copy. Never did. Not once.

Gradually I forgot all about it. Then the internet happened.

Absolutely anything you want or think you want is less than a day away. Browsing through some online second hand book sites looking for some decent 'Jennings' hardbacks the name Dolgun suddenly popped unbidden into my mind for the first time in a decade or so. One short search later I'd found and bought a copy.

The gap, from the thought entering my mind to the arrival of my long lost favourite book, was only 22 hours.

That means something. But I don't know what.

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Beezer | 19 September 2009 - 9:28pm

The same thing has happened to me

two cases for me are:

finding Tampopo, a film I'd seen over twenty years ago and adored, on Amazon in the US and getting it within a week.

getting a copy of Bert Fegg's Nasty Book for Boys and Girls, which a mate had lent me at school and I loved.

Without t'Interwebs I would never have managed to find either of them in an age of looking.

There are other examples but these are the two that spring to my mind at first bidding.

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illuminatus | 20 September 2009 - 12:17am

Last year (iirc) I listed

(rather literal mindedly I admit) these 5 as my fantasy DVD boxed set, mainly as things I'd like but didn't expect to ever own:

1. Hammer's Moon Zero 2 (kitsch, but a moment in time personified)

2. Adam Curtis' C4 TV series Pandora's Box.

3. Edward Woodward in 1990 (never seen it, would like to).

4. Greenaway's Prospero's books (we had a pretty poor VHS copy).

5. The Burke Special.

Within a year or so I find that I have #1 on a US DVD, I have just burned #2 onto 3 DVDs from NTSC .ISO files at the (relatively legit and very safe) Internet Archive, and I could get an official release of #4 in the Golden Calf Winners Box set if I could justify the £125 or so. #3 could be got as a bootleg, apparently, if I was willing to risk a tenner on a timecoded copy, and even a few bits of #5 exist on YouTube.

I wonder if there really is anything I can be sure I'll never see again (apart from my 18th birthday ;-)).

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SpaceBoy | 20 September 2009 - 3:28pm

James Burke's Youtube channel...

...is a thing of rare beauty that everyone should know about.

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Anonymous (not verified) | 20 September 2009 - 3:47pm

Not everoyne's favourite I know

but was personally very pleased to see Prospero's books now out on DVD in Sweden for a normal DVD price via Amazon. We just got a copy and it's come out pretty well, in fact I'd say one of the better DVD releases of Greenaway after the BFI ones.

Certainly better picture and sound than the Drowning by Numbers that I have, for example.

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SpaceBoy | 19 February 2011 - 10:36am

new

I was on a nostalgia buzz last week and stumbled on a site called A quater pound of sweets. 3 days later I was eating cola cubes,cocconut tobbacco and brown mice with my kids[who hated them so I ate them all].
If this isn't a pointless miracles of technology then what is ?

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paintyface | 20 September 2009 - 12:04am

If you'd loaded the song up

to your iPod in the first place and carried the 25 iPod monoliths necessary to contain your entire collection with you to the supermarket in a wheelbarrow, you could have heard the tune a whole 30 minutes earlier. Sir, you have the patience of a saint.

More important than the pointless miracle of technology, I marvel at the limitless brilliance of the human mind, that it can connect one of the countless jam varieties directly to just one line from one of the billion songs you've heard in your lifetime in a microsecond. Now THAT'S impressive. The listening mechanism stuff? Meh. Technology schmechnology...

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Molesworth | 20 September 2009 - 12:13am

In the "old days"

if I wanted to know what groups were playing in my local vicinity I would scour the gig guide in that weeks MM/NME/sounds. To see a particular group I would hope that their tour was announced in the news pages.

As mentioned elsewhere, I doubt the dates that Deaf School have just played would have been mentioned anywhere other than in the Liverpool Echo. I picked up on it on Myspace, booked the tickets online and saw where I would be sitting on a seating plan. The shows were even better than when I last saw them in the 1970s. After their final gigs tonight I will be able to view photgraphs and, hopefully, some video clips online. Again, I doubt any publication other than the Echo will have bothered with a series of concerts where everyone who is anyone from the Liverpool music scene would have been clambouring to be at these sellout reunion gigs.

God bless the internet.

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Beany | 20 September 2009 - 12:20am

I love those moments too...

Yesterday we had Mexican food for lunch. My daughter (5) who just expects this sort of thing, said 'Can we have Mexico music with our lunch?' Two minutes later, thanks to Spotify, we are all grooving to The Mexican Hat Dance. Fantastic!

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Adman | 20 September 2009 - 8:54am

I just....

...love this story.

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Anonymous (not verified) | 20 September 2009 - 3:40pm

adman

tecnology can help even more we go a plastic sombero for putting nachos in that whne you press a button the crown pops open and plays La cucaracha and reveals the salsa. It's funny then it's not and then it gets funny again.

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Chris G | 20 September 2009 - 8:24pm

Hang on

I happened to see (Celebrity) Come Dine With Me on Saturday and David Quantick has one of those. I think his even played La Cucaracha, though it could have been the Hat Dance. I forget which.

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illuminatus | 20 September 2009 - 9:39pm

much like fish knives

port decanters on little carts and fondue sets they are must have items at the coolest parties.

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Chris G | 20 September 2009 - 10:25pm

Fish knife posh

Fish wife not

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Sheev | 20 September 2009 - 10:42pm

That

sounds like just the ticket!

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Adman | 21 September 2009 - 6:58pm

I think some proper mexican music is

better . But when they were younger my nephews they had one of the joliest meal times with the mexican hat the fact their dad feignd hatred towards it made it all the better even when the nachos ran out and we snuck in crudites they kept on dipping. Music and their 5 a day bargin.

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Chris G | 21 September 2009 - 7:49pm

I'm still in

besotted mode with my Ipod, even after a year. It's become a permanent extension, as essential as trousers. The concept of having my entire music collection in my pocket,and fully accessible at will, is astonishing. The sheer knowledge that in seconds I can dip into Fragile, Trout Mask Replica, Otis Blue, Surf's Up or Solomon's Seal etc. never fails to amaze me. Sad, possibly, but it is also a psychic first aid kit. For example, I was boarding a flight from Cork to Bristol last week, only to be assaulted by Bonio's hysterics about 'one love'. Urgh.
Dear Mr Fantasy to the rescue !

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RobertC | 20 September 2009 - 8:55am

The joy of technology

Our hols are imminent and as of yesterday morning no documentation had arrived. Mrs Phil was getting a little jumpy. I phoned the travel company and spoke to a real person, who, after some frenzied keyboard tapping send me an email with everything required. I duly wandered upstairs to the computer still talking to customer service person and confirmed that said email had arrived.

Now I've been using email for so long these things shouldn't surprise me, but this was brilliant - despair to elation in seconds (and on a Saturday too).

Needless to say, a full to bursting iPod and its solar charger is top of the "to take" list. I just need to convince the FPO that the new 64GB iPod Touch is a bargain if bought at the airport ... hmmm there are some things technology can't assist with.

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Phil Pirrip | 20 September 2009 - 9:40am

Skate vids

When I was 14 me and my mates used to watch skateboarding videos. They were only avilable on American import, very expensive and hard to track down, but one of us would get hold of one somehow and we'd all convene at his place to watch it. We'd dream of owning the soundtrack on cassette, but had no way of knowing who these obscure American college bands were and if we did, there's no way we'd find their stuff at the local Our Price.

Now? Streets on Fire is available on Youtube - albeit in 10 minute chunks - and with a bit of Googling I was able to ascertain that one of my favourite sequences was soundtracked by fIREHOSE (an offshoot of the Minutemen), whose entire recorded output seems to be on Spotify.

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Joe Robert | 20 September 2009 - 9:45am

If Proust had an iPod

http://www.theonion.com/content/node/33642

I can browse by artist, album, song, or music genre. Boom! I'm doing it right now! The "repeat" feature? Heck, songs from my iPod don't ever have to end. I swear, I had "Music Box Dancer" going through my head for three days straight last week.

You say those iPods have customizable playlists that allow you to line up songs of your choosing? Primitive! I can put together a playlist, say "Best-Ever Heavy Metal Anthems," while I'm sitting in traffic. My mind is light-years beyond that, though. Does your iPod have the "That Reminds Me Of Another Great Song" feature? Well, my mind does!

Does your iPod have a powerful feature that can play back the great songs of summer 1993, as they sounded coming out of Mike Tollefson's boombox in the back of the school bus? Of course not. That particular playlist is in my brain, which your pitiful iPod will never be able to autosync with.

seriously though, I am finding the virtual memory that iTunes/Spotify and particularly YouTube are building up to be a true modern boon. Roll on the memory implant, as far as I'm concerned, even if we end up in this dilemma

http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1999Natur.402..239W

as a result.

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SpaceBoy | 20 September 2009 - 9:50am

Where is Rutger Hauer?

The other day I was in the lounge with Mrs V. She was watching Ladyhawke on TV; I, having decided that a little Matthew Broderick in sackcloth goes a very long way, was sitting next to her, arsing about on the Internet.

"I wonder where that was shot," she mused. "It looks like it could be somewhere in northern Spain."

With virtually the same speed as any utterance of normal telly-watching chit-chat, I opened another tab in my browser, typed "ladyhawke locations" in the Wikipedia box and replied, "It's Italy. Torrechiara castle in Parma province."

"Ah," she said, and continued watching the film as if nothing at all had happened.

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Archie Valparaiso | 20 September 2009 - 10:34am

Shazam

You hear any tune- on TV, when you're out, wherever

You press the button on your Shazam app and it within seconds tells you what the tune is. But if you are not in mobile coverage zone it stores it until you are. Also all the tunes you tag are nicely filed with links and next options eg email details.

It is fab-works for the most obscure tracks- and found this track that way


...Maybe you could ask the guy in the shop or go on some other tortuous search to find it..but this works just fine

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tim tunes | 20 September 2009 - 11:35am

My son is taking part in the Berlin Marathon today

Thanks to a chip you can follow his progress on the internet. This is a miracle. It would be even better if he and his mate hadn't swapped chips by mistake.

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David Hepworth | 20 September 2009 - 12:47pm

Mmmmmm... chips....

"

"
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stimpy | 21 September 2009 - 11:11am

I'm working in France this month

but no one would know I'm here. Phone, I-touch, and laptop all function as normal. I'm dialled into my work emails and server. I can pass pages of the magazine I work on in London from a garden in Gard.

I may never come home.

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Captain Underpants | 20 September 2009 - 1:15pm

The good and the bad

I work mostly from home using a lot of email and ftp and I love being able to do that.

I hate that when going abroad, phones, emails, everything still keeps me in touch with all the stuff I'm trying to escape from. And sadly, no, I can't leave them behind for all kinds of reasons I won't bore you with.

Just 2 bloody weeks on my own, that's all I'm asking God! Are you listening? (Starts thrashing mobile phone into a plastic pulp with large stick in Basil Fawlty fashion).

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Molesworth | 20 September 2009 - 3:58pm

Leave your mains adaptor at home

Without that £2 piece of plastic the whole technological miracle falls apart.

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Captain Underpants | 20 September 2009 - 5:47pm

I was talking to a couple yesterday

who admitted playfully skyping one another from laptop to laptop across the kitchen table if internet-induced attention deficit became too severe..

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DLM | 20 September 2009 - 1:40pm

What is

Skyping ?

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RobertC | 20 September 2009 - 2:01pm

On your PC, Mac. or whatever

it's a variation and extension of VOIP (Voice over IP) - you can make it's a way of making a free sound or in this case video "call" to someone else on the internet who has the same software and a PC with mic/speakers/webcam. Slight oversimplification but look here:

http://skype.com/intl/en-gb/download/skype/windows/

As with anything else of this nature, it doesn't always work quite as advertised all the time, and two PCs back-to-back calling each other will probably cause some feedback problems (like a radio phone-in where the caller's radio is on).

In the example above it's a way of attracting attention if your partner is in the same room but far too deeply engrossed in some internet activity to respond to a mere verbal request from a couple of feet away, though it's more handy when the other party is in a different country or even continent.

Drawbacks include spam calls, time differences, forgetting you've only just got up and haven't dressed yet, or having a feeble alibi blown out of the water if you accept an incoming call without thinking too hard etc.

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DLM | 20 September 2009 - 3:45pm

If you work away from home a lot

(or abroad) Skype with camera is quite handy. Reduces the flak from the GLW about you not being there!

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Badlands | 20 September 2009 - 6:53pm

Lost Highway

drifting along aimlessly in the internet and feeling fed up I came across this

http://dontevenreply.com/view.php?post=59

I'm still laughing my cock off. But I'm not sure it's relevant to the original question above. It's about technology tho', ain't it?

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chabsy | 20 September 2009 - 1:50pm

The ease with which...

...the internet can bring you into contact with people so geographically and socially removed from your own situation, that you could never hope to meet them in any other set of circumstances.

I’ve known some of my online contacts for years and although we have never met face-to-face, I communicate with them regularly and count them as friends.

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backwards7 | 20 September 2009 - 1:53pm

I recently had the urge to hear...

"I've Got No Chicken But I've Got Five Wooden Chairs" by Edward Barton, which I had last "enjoyed" on The Tube in 1984. Without leaving the dinner table I was able to Googlebrowse "chicken chairs barton blogspot" on my phone, and the aforesaid song was at my table and playing before my pudding had even micro-pinged.

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Anonymous (not verified) | 20 September 2009 - 3:30pm

If I'd known you had those

"Isn't modern life amazing" moments I would never have stooped so low as to suggest that you were in any way jaded.

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Anonymous (not verified) | 20 September 2009 - 3:37pm

Let me take you down the corridors of my mind...

Until 1973 the BBC used to broadcast Trade Test Films on BBC2 every morning to assist retail television engineers in the days when the first wave of colour sets had to be delivered, installed and calibrated on site by a trained professional.

As a child I was fascinated by these films, which were never listed in the Radio Times, and was saddened and frustrated by their sudden disappearance from the schedules.

I had always hankered for another chance to see these films, but resigned myself to the fact that I probably never would. Until, that is, the miracle of Youtube arrived.

Attached are three: "The Colour Television Receiver", a highly technical film narrated by Michael Aspel which explains the hitherto arcane practice of degaussing, and which in its own way is as hynotically reassuring as The Shipping Forecast; "Evoluon", which features Dutch children blowing into things; and the thoroughly charming "Giuseppina", the story of a sweet young Italian girl who is driven into the murky world of arms dealing as a way of escaping the boredom of her long, listless summer, and which was the last test film ever broadcast.

Youtube user brian55b has loads of them on his channel, although you should definitely avoid "Pan-tele-tron" if you've been eating the brown acid.

I can die now (although I hope I won't just yet).




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Anonymous (not verified) | 20 September 2009 - 4:52pm

When there never used to be

daytime TV on ITV or BBC, Thursday mornings were always a source of weird fascination for me as a child in the late 70's and either ill or on holiday. Thursday was Engineering test day. IBA transmissions were especially weird, when you gt the test programme from the IBA's Crawley Court facility.

Such daya always seemed to include footage or stills of a couple of bearded engineers 'upgrading the Crystal Palace transmitter' or similar. For a geeky kid like me, it was hog heaven.

The last vestige of this is only just disappearing, as Ceefax has divested itself of the engineering pages on 698

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illuminatus | 20 September 2009 - 5:25pm

I get my fix of TV exotica now...

...by entering the testcard code on my freeview box and playing my old "The Girl, The Doll, The Music" CD!

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Anonymous (not verified) | 20 September 2009 - 5:45pm

Evoluon

Was a Philips sponsored exhibition centre in Eindhoven. As you walked in or out of the main door, an electric display showed how many people were in the building. I went there as a schoolboy in around 1972, and probably shared bugs with those very children. It outdid the Science Museum in London by miles. Anyone who's been to The Exploratory in Bristol has enjoyed the same wondrous immersion in scientific fun and games.

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Vulpes Vulpes | 20 September 2009 - 6:38pm

Never thought I'd see Evoluon

again-must have been that dome that made an impression. Am hoping that one of these days even Zokko will turn up on YouTube or similar:

http://www.offthetelly.co.uk/index.php?s=zokko

Unconventionally presented and drenched in bleeping radiophonics, the serial segments came across as strangely tranquil and hypnotic, contrasting effectively with the loud and frenetic style of the rest of the programme. Leaning strongly towards jazzy “beat” outfits like The Alan Price Set, Georgie Fame and The Blue Flames and The New Vaudeville Band, the pop tracks were accompanied by extremely well directed shorts reflecting the lyrical themes of the chosen numbers, some of which were also used in editions of Top of the Pops.

Meanwhile, the variety acts simply turned up and did their stage performance within the very cramped confines of the Zokko! studio, doubtless causing severe logisitical problems for the numerous jugglers. Even the basic list of artistes who appeared on the show makes for fascinating reading, featuring such evocative and long-forgotten names as The Tumblairs, The Skating Meteors, and The Breathtaking Eddy Limbo and “Pat”. A handful of more established acts would also show up including conjuring legend Ali Bongo; veteran brother and sister variety performers Johnny and Suma Lamonte, whose acrobatic skills saw them in regular demand as guest turns on light entertainment shows; visiting American Phil Enos and his Amazing Comedy Car; and popular illusionist and judo expert Geoff Ray, who though now retired still proudly includes Zokko! on his CV.Most notorious however were Arthur Scott and his Performing Seals, who left the tiny studio reeking so strongly of fish recording was disrupted for days afterwards.

If this all sounds like a rather mindbending assembly of entertainment, its disorentating nature was amplified to nightmarish and jaw-dropping proportions by the adoption of a deeply psychedelic “swinging London” visual style, complete with flashing designs that looked garish even in black and white, captions written in lettering that would not have appeared out of place in an advert for a Carnaby Street boutique, and crash zooms of a modishly redesigned poster of Lord Kitchener.

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SpaceBoy | 20 September 2009 - 9:45pm

Walking down a street in Auckland NZ

several thousand miles from home looking for an ATM. I was chatting to my father on my mobile phone who was back in Blighty as I walked. I got out my cash card and got some cash out and put it in my wallet, finished the conversation and went to meet a mate for a pint.

Compare this with the 80's - when getting cash abroad and calling home took forever. Absolute miracle to do it them easily.

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Dave Holley | 20 September 2009 - 5:20pm

Or you can go out of your

way to call A**ey and C**ital O*e to tell them you will be abroad and thus wanting to use cash machines, only to find that your card is refused everywhere because they think it's stolen.

EDIT:
Amid all these lovely but, as David Hepworth notes, largely inessential advances that we've made, why do the banking systems still work as if propelled by quill pens. Five days to draw on a cheque deposited over the counter for instance. Or, in the case of the above "fraud", finding a way to instantly update their systems so that I can use my own card without having to wait three days because the fraud case has been passed to their Spanish office and they can't intervene? Now that would be handy wouldn't it? Still, at least it's easier to change banks these days.

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Molesworth | 20 September 2009 - 5:55pm

I don't know if...

...other banks do this, but I've just noticed that an interbank third party transfer is now instantaneous ("within two hours") if you're moving money from a Falihax account. They're learning...

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Anonymous (not verified) | 20 September 2009 - 6:31pm

O/TBeing Dumb and having stayed in Blighty for the last 14 years

I didn't realise that I had to tell the CC Company that I was going abroad. It was only when my card got 'bounced' when the hotel in Chennai wanted a pre-authorisation, that I rang them (from the desk - I'm not that dumb!) and got through after lots of voice mail B******s to a call centre who-knows where and eventually sorted it out. (Doesn't explain why the card was accepted at Dubai Airport without problems though).

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Badlands | 21 September 2009 - 12:22pm

Unfortunately...

modern technology permits acts of cowardice that would have been unthinkable a decade ago.

This video is Not Safe For Work.

Kelly - Text Message Breakup


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backwards7 | 20 September 2009 - 6:16pm

Wow

Where did you find that? It's, like, awesome.

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Theo Zoffrok | 20 September 2009 - 7:48pm

I also recommend...

...Shoes and Let Me Borrow That Top.

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backwards7 | 21 September 2009 - 6:32am

Yes

I regularly have these "technological-innit-marvellous" moments. On Friday, I was on a bus, checking out Twitter wherein Graham Linehan led me to a link from the previous night's Rachel Maddow show on CNBC which I then watched. Last week, the baby demonstrated first steps to the grandparents in Dublin via Skype.

As a child of the 80's with my Speak & Spell and Commodore computer, I have enjoyed the online revolution and the recent developments of mobile connectivity. After years of techy daydreaming, the iPhone has delivered pretty much everything I used to want from a gadget as a kid: all you can eat music, you can watch movies on it, video camera, connected to a world wide network of people, Scrabble, and infinite shopping potential, as pointed out above...

The fun part is that technology will move on, and in 10, 20 years time this will all seem quaint. It's in the cloud, people! It's a bit like this...


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DrJ | 20 September 2009 - 8:21pm

iTunes Home Sharing

Having amassed two seperate iTunes libraries - one on the PC in the office, one on the macbook - I was overjoyed to discover that not only can I listen to tracks from my mac on the PC (and vice versa) but also drag and drop files between the two machines!!

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Chris | 20 September 2009 - 9:13pm

So let me get this straight

The two things that are the most "must-have" items for the discerning Wordista are:

a phone that does everything but "beam me up Scotty" (for now) - and a set of mono albums by a band that broke up 40 years ago

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Sheev | 20 September 2009 - 10:48pm

yes

we're all just part of the Apple (corps)

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SpaceBoy | 21 September 2009 - 8:17am

I'm not

only apple thing I've got (reluctantly) is itunes.

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Chris G | 21 September 2009 - 8:59am

Gutted

The only apple thing I have is the edible variety...

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Beany | 21 September 2009 - 9:14am

sorry yes I have

a tin of cider in the fridge and there's something brown in the fruit bowl that was once a braeburn.

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Chris G | 21 September 2009 - 9:18am

So, it's finally easier to avoid Microsoft than Apple

Apple wins! Wooo-hoooo! :-)

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stimpy | 21 September 2009 - 11:14am

he added

using the internet that's run on Microsoft stuff....

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Chris G | 21 September 2009 - 12:40pm
stimpy | 21 September 2009 - 12:43pm

You'd be surprised

were Mr Gates spawn lurks to jump out on your delicate sensitive apple types with your weird cult.

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Chris G | 21 September 2009 - 12:54pm

I'd certainly be VERY surprised if any ISP admitted to

using Windows servers as part of their Internet chain.

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stimpy | 21 September 2009 - 1:32pm

They certainly use them for

web hosting.

Most of the bigger iron, like switches and routers are usually Cisco or similar, with linux/other unix for services likie DNS.

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illuminatus | 21 September 2009 - 8:53pm

We all live etc

I should say my posting was a weak joke about the iPhone and mono box from Apple (famous computer company/cult according to taste)/Apple (record company for famous group/cult according to taste) ...

Note to self: must try to be clearer in future ...

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SpaceBoy | 22 September 2009 - 9:21am

I chose my words carefully...

web hosting is not the Internet :-)

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stimpy | 22 September 2009 - 4:46pm

I see you've

got the new follicle microtome app for your I-phone (apparently it's free to cult members)

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Chris G | 22 September 2009 - 5:20pm
stimpy | 22 September 2009 - 5:30pm

fortunately

I downloaded the random last word generator from the ovi store.... and it's "tortoise"

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Chris G | 22 September 2009 - 5:37pm

No it isn't :-)

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stimpy | 22 September 2009 - 6:01pm

gazump

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Chris G | 22 September 2009 - 6:46pm

quadripilectomy approaching

an internet without any web hosting might be slightly well...empty. Even though, yes, the web is not the same as the internet. Still, if you'd like to use gopher to read the Word, that's great. Good luck! ;-)

Microsoft's IIS accounted for about 22% of hosted web domains last month (see Netcraft web survey: http://news.netcraft.com/). Apache worringly down at around 47%

Besides, linux is cool (says the man who admins apache, postgresql and BIND on linux).

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illuminatus | 22 September 2009 - 11:18pm

Facebook on my iPhone

After doing a circuit of the London skyride today I stopped in St James's park for lunch, during which I uploaded a photo I'd taken to facebook. Within minutes I had a comment on the photo from my cousin in Waterloo, Ontario. I too wonder at how recently such a thing was completely implausible.

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Theo Zoffrok | 20 September 2009 - 11:49pm

In many respects

That is the Beam Me Up Scotty machine mentioned above, in that your cousin receives a copy that's identical in every respect to the original photo.

Theoretically, of course, we could have done something sort of similar even 30 years ago: taking a Polaroid in St James's Park and immediately nipping into a nearby office to fax it to Canada, but we never did, did we? The digital revolution hasn't just changed how we do things, but what we choose to do.

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Archie Valparaiso | 21 September 2009 - 6:55am

fair point archie

except a fax of polaroid would have looked like one of Mark Rothko's more gloomier works.
Also to take a polaroid and fax it would have cost the thick end of a fiver.

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Chris G | 21 September 2009 - 9:04am

The peculiar thing about faxes

is that such a patently crap technology should have been at the core of the world's business dealings for the best part of 20 years.

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Archie Valparaiso | 21 September 2009 - 9:28am

funnily I managed to skip the fax

went from an office with hardly any computers and no fax to one with loads where we used email.

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Chris G | 21 September 2009 - 9:37am

The point, surely

is that I didn't have to nip into a nearby office, nor did I have to lug a bulky Polaroid camera around with me; it was all done from the little gizmo in my pocket. At the same time my cousin was adding her comment, my cousins in Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain and the USA could have been doing the same, along with my brother in Australia. It would have taken quite a while to get those faxes despatched!

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Theo Zoffrok | 21 September 2009 - 9:31am

That's what I meant

The effortlessness of doing these things mean that we are now doing them for the first time, even though we could have approximated a similar effect - albeit in a ridiculously Mickey Mouse way - quite some time ago. We do it now because, like the man said....

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Archie Valparaiso | 21 September 2009 - 9:56am

funny things is though

in a few years time like the polroid revival now some eager young types in the next fashionable bit of london will be using faxed to send out gig fliers etc!
http://www.flickr.com/groups/polaroad/

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Chris G | 21 September 2009 - 9:41am

At the very time you posted...

...I was listening to these two tunes on rotation which my kids and I loved after seeing them on the T4 Chart Rundown show. Turn my PC and stereo* on, login to Spotify and party time, while my wife and I were getting ready to go out. I really marvelled at the wonder and simplicity of it. (*note reference to my past and often luddite present).

These are great getting-ready-to-go-out records, by the way.



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kb | 21 September 2009 - 10:32am

I love my Palm Phone (a couple of years old now)

(the GLW hates it, although she was a Palm Pilot user for many years).

Being able to sync it with a laptop and keep schedule/phone book a password safe (encrypted) and GPS applications on a phone is brilliant.

Having worked with portable computing since the early 80s, syncing is so much more seamless now.

Not wireless (although Bluetooth) and not an MP3 player, but saves me carrying phone and PDA - genius. I don't need email at all times - so the Blackberry thing passed me by.

Still have to carry separate company phone though for work - different provider - split billing and accounts still has a way to go.

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Badlands | 21 September 2009 - 12:32pm

Learning to insult my father-in-law

At a recent social occassion I found it desirous to insult the pig-headed oaf that is my father-in-law. Wishing to do it in Hungarian , for that is the scoundrels native tongue, and not wishing to trouble my wife, I was able with the help of my online dictionary to come up with a suitable word and the correct pronunciation.
"Mayom" means Ape.

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On The Fence | 22 September 2009 - 2:25pm

do try this at home!


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Chris G | 22 September 2009 - 5:51pm

Idle? Aye!

In the middle of another thrusting, vibrant day at work - I found I had to attach a receipt from a hotel in order to claim the expenses back.

I knew where the receipt was. It was in the glovebox of my car in the basement of the building where I work. What a pain in the arse. I had just sat down.

So, without flexing a single buttock muscle, I emailed the hotel and asked them to send me a scanned copy of the recipt. Within 10 minutes, they had sent it to me through the cyber-marvellousness of email.

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Austin | 23 September 2009 - 6:31am

old footage

I marvel at being able to watch obscure footage of my favourite bands on youtube, i know it's old hat now but it still amazes me - particularly live gigs from 20 30 odd years ago, shot by audience member, or tv appearances from usa/australia etc. couldn't have imagined it a few years ago and yet seems obvious now - anything can be transmitted, if it exists. amazing.

(it won't be there forever you know, it still seems like a mirage)

recently the wife looked up the 1911 census which is now available online (national archives, Ireland) and got a photo of the actual census document which chronicled the presence of my grandfather and his siblings and his parents at his house on that day in 1911. mind boggling.

i used to think the computer recognising a cd's song titles was amazing but i don't anymore - is there a term for that?

receiving a text message in the supermarket about a necessary item is pretty nifty too doncha think

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Kay Lester | 27 September 2009 - 4:50pm

one from the 80's...


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eightbaII | 30 September 2009 - 1:11pm
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