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Who would you like to release 'new' old?
Posted by tkdmart on 2 September 2009 - 11:08am.
The 'new' Prefab Sprout album got me thinking...
What if all bands had a hidden album from their creative peak period?
Being a lifelong Yes fan, I'd love a brand spanking new, possibly quadruple, 'Close to the Edge' era album, hidden in the vault because the technology didn't exist at the time to release a single unbroken 120 minute track.
Who would you like to release some new old, and why?
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maybe some Lamb - Trick era Genesis, right on the cusp of the vocalist change
Pentangle
and The Mahavisnu Orchestra.
McCartney/Costello
Colloboration. I have some of the songs on bootleg but I would love to see the studio recordings and a good quality recording of their live gig which may or may not have been for invited guests only.
Also, Richard Thompson and David Byrne live recording.
The Macca/Costello gig
was for a music school I think and was given a radio broadcast (Radio 2 perhaps). I am sure I have a cassette of it in a drawer somewhere so it must be available out there in a not too distant corner of the web. It was pretty good as I recall.
Can't have too much Elvis
On the subject of Elvis, there's the whole album that he gave away to Wendy James out there if you look in the wrong places hard enough and very good it is too.
There must be a lot of similar stuff around and it's often quite easy to find on the web as long as you know that there's something to search for.
Genesis
Supper's ready parts 2 and 3 would be nice...
I found some 'old' Genesis
in my massif archive tonight, the snoud quality is not bad at all, here's the track list:
1. Intro: Dancing with the Moonlit Knight (2nd part)
2. Only Your Love (rehearsal)
3. Only Your Love (finished version)
4. Master of Time
5. Happy the Man (clean mix)
6. The Reaper
7. For Absent Friends
8. A Child's Song
9. After the Ordeal
10. Silver Song (rehearsal)
11. Silver Song (finished version)
12. Outro: Dancing with the Moonlit Knight (2nd part)
Outtakes and rough mixes recorded 1972/73. Tracks 2,3,1o & 11 have Phil Collins on vocals. Tracks 4 & 5 have Anthony Phillips on vocals.
no other info, ye ken the drill if you're interested :D
This is a nice fantasy game
It'd be lovely if it turned out there was more Smiths - any era will do.
Perhaps someone will also find some old Factory tapes containing the lost Joy Division disco album (it turns out Barney and Stephen Morris discovered Donna Summer earlier than previously thought).
Someone may also open an unmarked can and find alternative versions of the second and third Aztec Camera albums, with a more subtle, less 80s sound.
Unknown Pleasures
The 'Less-Hannett' remasters?
Aztec Camera please
if he wrote High Land Hard Rain at 16 how did it not go on forever? I'm off to play "We Could Send Letters" and cry myself to sleep.
Surf
I'm sure you have it already but if not get yourself a copy of Roddy's album Surf. A lovely melancholy acoustic pop classic which includes the theme tune from Early Doors.
A nice cleaned up selection
of George's 'All Things Must Pass' demos would be nice.
A friendly torrent
may well be able to supply you with Beware Of ABKCO
1. Run Of The Mill (Harrison) Acoustic Demo
2. The Art Of Dying (Harrison) Acoustic Demo
3. Everybody Nobody (Harrison) Acoustic Demo
4. Wah Wah (Harrison) Demo
5. Window, Window (Harrison) Acoustic Demo
6. Beautiful Girl (unknown) Acoustic Demo
7. Beware Of Darkness (Harrison) Acoustic Demo
8. Let It Down (Harrison) Acoustic Demo
9. Tell Me What Has Happened To You (Harrison) Acoustic Demo
10. Hear Me Lord (Harrison) Demo
11. Nowhere To Go (Harrison/Dylan) Demo
12. Cosmic Empire (Harrison) Acoustic Demo
13. Mother Divine (Harrison) Acoustic Demo
14. I Don't Want To Do It (Dylan) Acoustic Demo
15. If Not For You (Dylan) Acoustic Demo
Ta
Listening now, even as I type.
I too, have often thought
(and banged on about) how much better certain albums albums would sound with different production. I mentioned this in relation to Prefab Sprout in a recent post. I would love to hear their stuff devoid of the ghastly 80's synth plinkings. Same goes for 'So' by Peter Gabriel. I would also add Suzanne Vega ...and even ... The Blue Nile .... there I've said it.
Come to think of it - virtually anything from the 80's would benefit from wholesale reproduction.
Leave Suzanne Vega's production well alone.
It's that weirdly layered sound that makes her so special. And it only got better in the 90's when Mitchell Froom took over as producer. She would be only half as great with more earthy straightforward production. See the banality of Beauty and Crime to see how important production is to her sound.
Even Paddy McAloon hates the production on "Swoon"
I read an interview with him (I'm guessing as part of the "Andromeda Heights" campaign) where he said he fantasised about being a Santa Claus-type figure, who one night visited every house in the world that had a copy of "Swoon", and replaced it with a better-produced version (he also said those songs remained among his favourites...)
Normally Spread Thinly
Most artists (or probably more specifically their record companies) tend to release all those tracks that didn't make it at the time scattered over the re-releases of lots of albums which means that there may be an albums worth of unheard stuff available but you have to buy 6 albums you already own to get them.
Having said that, I stumbled across a bootleg of the Sparks (Halfnelson) demos a couple of months ago which has quite a few otherwise unavailable songs on it and it was delight.
Teenage Fanclub
The great lost masterpiece recorded between Grand Prix and Songs from Northern Britain. If, as seems likely, such a thing doesn't exist a B-sides collection would do me fine.
Ah. TFC's Golden Period
All the b-sides from the accompanying singles released over the course of Grand Prix and Songs From Northern Britain are gems. A mixture of alt. takes, cover versions, acoustic versions and plain old too-good-for-the-b-side songs, it's worth eBaying until you find them all. Or look in the darkest corners of yer world wide web. A classic double album is yours for the making if you persevere.
Ithankyou
* Quickly lists vast Teenage Fanclub b-sides collection on eBay at extortionate prices *
They read your mind...
and already released a mini-album called "Bonus B-Sides" here's a link to info:
http://www.discogs.com/Teenage-Fanclub-Bonus-B-Sides/release/1792178
More Elvis
I'd also love to have the full suite of 'Great American Songwriting' he recorded as suggestions for George Jones to cover.
Elvis/George Jones
Most of these song suggestions can be found on the bonus disc of Kojak Variety. The idea is better than the execution.
Still waiting
for Bowie to give Toy an official release.
And Prince's legendary Dream Factory would be nice too.
Fatima Mansions
fantasy albums eh?
Much as I like Cathal Coughlan's solo stuff and respect his wish not to go back, a lost full-tilt fire and brimstone masterpiece perhaps shelved during the Fatima Mansions contract wrangles would fill a gap today.
A lost Sisters of Mercy original line up successor to First and Last and Always would get me misty-eyed too.
I sense a disturbance in the force
I definitely posted about unreleased Sisters but it seems to have evapourated, some Shriekback from the Care to Oil & Gold period would also be welcomed.
a Sisters of Mercy pre-Wayne Hussey
album would have been great as long as they beefed up the tin-can drum machine and got a more powerful guitar sound.
Fatima Mansions collection of lost songs between "Valhalla Avenue" and "...Former West" albums would be very welcome too.
Dream Academy
A lost Dream Academy CD would be nice, or a decent solo album by Nick Laird-Clowes.
I don't think Yes or Genesis were prolific enough to have anything worthwhile still unreleased. The songs that Jon Anderson submitted too late for Lord Of The Rings are good if you liked Olias Of Sunhillow.
Roundabout
I would love to hear this fabs effort. Recorded between Rubber Soul and Revolver. With 2 John/George songs one by Paul & George and no Ringo tunes!
The Second Arrangement
it would be nice to discover that - like Bobby coming back from the dead in Dallas - the episode of DonandWaltasy featuring a fat-fingered engineer's wipe of the alleged masterpiece - was just a bad dream
If ONLY someone would release...
...some fabulous previously unreleased vintage live Quintessence on CD. If ONLY they would do so in October... :-D
Prince
was the Black album any good? Remember the hype but never heard the product.
Seem to remember
This got a vinyl release eventually - wasn't much cop....
On the whole
the album wasn't that good really; I felt that he was trying too hard to be hip to the homies in the 'hood, as it were. I don't think he ever really understood rap, and his attempts to be 'street' here and later on were largely unsuccessful. However, there were one or two decent songs (Superfunkycalifragisexy and When 2 R In Love, later included on Lovesexy)) and one astonishing one, Bob George, which manages to be menacing, self-mocking and funny at once:
"I pay the rent in this raggedy motherfucker
And all u do is suck up food and heat
Say what? Oh yeah?
4 someone who can't stand them T.V. dinners
U sure eat enough of them motherfuckers
Who bought u that diamond ring?
Yeah, right.
Since when did u have a job?
U seeing that rich motherfucker again
What's his name? Bob?
Bob, ain't that a bitch?
What's he do for a living?
Manage rock stars?
Who?
Prince?
Ain't that a bitch?
That skinny motherfucker with the high voice?
(you really must hear this!)
Eh? What's this Bowie 'Toy?'
The reason that stuff 'stars' don't release hidden stuff is that they, and their record labels, think it is shite. On hearing Bowie stuff and VU stuff which was 'rare' and I paid frankly ludicrous sums for, I agree with them. Hopefully I can sell them to some Japanese bloke in the future. C.F. 'New York' EP by Velvets, Arnold Corns 45 'Hang on to yourself' I could go on. Oh, did you mean an imaginary record then? Bollocks, I've stacked it.
Er, not 'imaginary'
http://www.illustrated-db-discography.nl/Toy.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heathen_%28album%29#Recording_and_productio...
If you're going to get stroppy, do some research first.
Apologies Mikhail...
That is some great web site. Thought I knew a fair bit about Bowie but found out I know naatheeng! Just digging out my copy of 'Heathen' (only played once then discarded). I genuinely thought 'Toy' was an imaginary, or urban myth status (like 'Zion' track/album.) I stand corrected sir. Thanks for the link.
As Mickey Blue Eyes famously said
"Aah, forgeddaboudid" :-)
Question?
what happened to 2. Contamination, the second part of his new trilogy with Eno?
My friend Google has come up with these
http://www.geocities.com/andrewbroad/music/bowie/contamination/
http://music.hyperreal.org/artists/brian_eno/enofaq3.html includes the following:
David Bowie
David (Jones) Bowie was active in the UK music scene for a number of years before Eno started recording with Bowie. One might find some parallels in Bowie and Eno both exploring androgonous or slightly feminine personas in their early 70's careers, with Eno's reputation for being outrageous in some eyes likely being drawn from his odd costuming, use of make-up and mascara, while Bowie appearing in drag on lp covers and in early rock videos ("I am DJ", from Lodger) was fuel for similar media hype a few years later (1979). I think the Stones pre-dated both of them in rockstar cross-dressing photos.
From what I gather, the three albums that Bowie, Eno and Robert Fripp recorded together stand to many Bowie fans as a pinnacle of Bowie's career. The "Low" lp explored some early ambient/instrumental Eno territories, at a time when Bowie's label must have shuddered at the prospect of releasing a new lp without words and songs on every track, leaving the lp unlikely to receive broad commercial airplay. I've heard that the instrumental tracks owed some inspiration to Philip Glass (probably more from early Glass works than to his more known works these days), which is amusing since the music in turn inspired Glass to write a work based on the Bowie/Eno tracks.
Though Eno and Bowie hadn't worked together for many years after their mid 70's collaborations there are supposedly some new works pending from Fripp & Eno which Bowie may contribute, and another possible project of Bowie and Eno working together on a CD-ROM or maybe yet another musical release. A 90's Bowie release, "The Buddha of Suburbia", credited Eno as inspiration in the liner notes (and pretty noticably in the music) but at the same time Bowie pokes good natured fun at Eno for double-tracking vocals and singing like a little girl.
Since then Bowie and Eno talked about a CD-ROM projected and recorded some material together. Some of this was released as David Bowie's "1. Outside" in fall 1995 and featured a bizarre "art crimes" theme on outsider art expressed as murders and mutilations. There was rumored to be more avant-garde material recorded at the Outside sessions, at one time slated for another CD release (called "Inside") but this has yet to see the light of day. Interviewed by Raygun in late 1996 or early 1997, Bowie described "Inside" as "fabulous... quite bizarre" and said it could possibly be released after the other 3 or 4 albums in the Outside "hypercycle", possibly on the World Wide Internet as Algeria Touchshriek terms it. Bowie and Eno were due to work on the second part of the hypercycle, entitled "2.Contamination", in summer 1997, but with David's extensive Earthling tour and Brian's sabbatical in St Petersburg this proved impossible. According to David, at the time, he envisaged "2.Contamination" as having some bearing on "1.Outside", yet going "backwards and forwards between Indonesian pirates of the 17th and 18th centuries and today."
In late 1994 Eno raved about a Bowie/Eno CD-ROM project entitled "Leon" in Opal Information, which would have tied into the "Outside" theme, as Leon Blank is one of "1.Outside"'s characters. Like "Headcandy" and "Jump", "Leon" was to have been produced by ION. At one point there was a prototype CD-ROM made by Eno/Bowie and ION, who spent 4 days with Eno chopping up raw tracks from the early tapes used for "1.Outside" into the guts of a mix-it-yourself CD-ROM. Various comments made by Eno regarding CD-ROMs shifting large amounts of information around suggest that he was not wholly enthusiastic about the result. We assume that Eno's interests were diverted into the viable SSEYO Koan product, which generates new, unexpected music rather than just shuffling different musical elements in a different order. We believe that the funding may not have been forthcoming to proceed with the "Leon" project.
And, from a Prince website (!):
http://prince.org/msg/8/262028
If you Google "Bowie Eno Contamination" you'll find quite a lot of info :-)
Well!
my ghast is flabbered.
thankee
The Ruts
sadly only managed one proper album with Malcolm Owen before he died, would love to discover a hidden gem of unreleased tracks in the vaults.
The great lost mid-70s Joni Mitchell album
doesn't exist (yes, I know about the odd demo and unreleased song) but if it did I'd be investigating it pretty rapidly.
That album The Beatles did in between
Revolver and Sgt Pepper´s.
Joni Deluxe
A year or so ago Joni Mitchells labelannounced deluxe versions of Court and Spark, Hissing of Summer Lawns and Hejira. They never saw light of day and I would love to know if there were lost songs or whether they were just alternate versions.
SACD versions
were what I recall being promised but not delivered, so it was a case of better fidelity rather than extra material (assuming I recall this correctly - which is never a cast-iron certainty).
Johnny Mathis - I Love My Lady
Recorded in 1981, and is a Chic album in all but name.
Not released as Johnny Mathis management company and his label at the time (Columbia) apparently thought it was too "modern sounding" with Johnny getting the funk on and grooving to death!
Van the Man
Didn't Van Morrison record an album with the Crusaders during the mid seventies? Be kinda cool to hear that?
bargepole eagerly awaits
unreleased pink floyd material - surely studio versions of 'raving and drooling' and 'gotta be crazy' - both reworked for the 'animals' album - and played live extensively, must exist from the 'wish you were here' sessions, the album they were originally destined for.
a decent boot
from the Animals tour is my holy grail, I have several all crap
The several happy, whimsical albums
from the parallel universe where someone somehow grounded Syd Barrett back in everyday drug-free life after "Piper at the Gates of Dawn"- thus preventing him from playing psychedelic Russian roulette once too often and then several times more.
It all culminated in the masterful "Syd Barrett's Photocopier" album, a Lewis-Carroll-tinged tale of office machinery, after which he retired from music and sold paintings to Art collectors around the globe.
Dave Gilmour still replaced him in Pink Floyd, though... I think.
Lost Syd
I wish Syd had made one or two more solo albums. Some bits of the '74 demos on bootleg show promise, one part actually sounds kind of Rolling Stones-ish.
There's three Yes lineups I wish had done more, one more album each from the Fragile/ CTTE lineup, the Relayer lineup and the Drama lineup. Sometimes I also think up alternate histories for the band like what if Vangelis or Mike Oldfield took over on keys, or what if in 1980 Yes replaced Jon with a singer with a lower voice that could stand up to constant roadwork unlike what happened with Trevor Horn, or what if Jon was replaced with a female singer. All Good People on the new Hoffs/ Sweet covers album gives a taste of what that would be like. It also would have been great if XYZ had happened, just one album and tour would have sufficed.
There's a blog from a Beatles tribute band from Argentina called the Virtual Beatles. They've posted them doing a fictional Beatles album that would come after Beatles For Sale and before Help and another one where they put overdubs on John, George and Paul demos to make a fictional mid 90's Beatles reunion album;
http://www.virtualbeatles.blogspot.com/
I wish Keith Moon hadn't gone to LA in '75 - '76 and gotten in such a miserable state and that instead the Who had done an album in '76 that included a Who version of Heart to Hang on to. There could have been two 1968 Who albums, Live at the Filmore and a studio album of the harder rocking ilk of their 70's stuff, they had some material in that vein ready. Sell Out nearly had a very different track listing. It's Hard almost had a followup, some of the demos for it are on Another Scoop. The demo from that period Prelude to the Right to Write sounds very Quadrophenia-like. A mid 80's Who album might have been good if some of the stronger material from Pete's White City was raided and also included a Who version of After the Fire and used some of the songs Pete demoed in the mid 80's like Commonwealth Boys which has refrences to I'm a Boy in it and the sublime The Shout.