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THE NEW LAW CONCERNING BOX SETS
Posted by Bodhisattva on 16 October 2010 - 6:35pm.
The government has ruled that no person over the age of 30 may own more than one CD box set. All others must be destroyed. (They will turn a blind eye to the Beatles Mono apparently).
To be honest I'm struggling to find one among my many that I couldn't do without...I appear to have most of the tracks on other formats and must simply have been seduced by the hefty packaging. Maybe that's their point.
Anyway...I think I'll keep...The Speciality Record Label Story. Various Artists of course - but are there any one artist boxes that are truly essential? Which one will you keep?
Carry on.
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Speciality - that's a cracker.
I found that they were more accessible when I had ripped them to iTunes and could flick through them on my iPod.
I've got quite a few that I am very fond of, especially from the good people at Rhino -
Beg, Scream & Shout, The Big Ol' Box of 60s Soul - beautifully presented, the individual CDs packed to look like 7" singles, and the box itself is like a box for carrying singles.
Loud, Fast & Out Of Control! - a great rock and roll collection
Nuggets Vol 1 & 2 are great garage rock sets.
All the Miles Davis ones are excellent too.
BUT YOU MUST CHOOSE!
Just one. It's the law.
ah, hadn't read the question thoroughly enough
In that case, we have a winner (despite the close calls from Revenant for the Charlie Patton box which is a wondrous thing, and the magnificent Albert Ayler)
That looks amazing...
Is it still available? I get confused with the Rhino website as lots of things seem to only be available in the US.
It is an absolute joy
I bought it in Spin Records in Newcastle after a stinking working day about 11 years ago, and I still smile when I look at it on the shelf, or get it out to play. The packaging is great but most importantly the music is a great selection, and beautifully remastered.
Amazon have some at $89.99 plus postage
http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B000003425/ref=dp_olp_used?ie=UTF...
Jam - Direction, Reaction, Creation
Yes, the material on Discs 1 to 4 is available elsewhere (ie on the original albums), but Disc 5 does contain some otherwise un-gettable stuff (unless you include YouTube or somewhere else on t'internet).
Without it I could not claim to be a Jam completist (or I will be when I get the new Sound Affects)
Of the other Box Sets I have, very little is contained that I can't get somewhere else.
yeah
- my choice too. What's on the new Sound Affects?
Sound Affects Deluxe Edition
Digitally Remastered Album
PLUS Bonus Disc
1. Start! (single version)
2. Liza Radley (b-side of Start!)
3. Dreams Of Children (b-side of Going Underground)
4. That's Entertainment (alternate version from 'Direction, Reaction, Creation')
5. Pretty Green ('demo with overdubs' - previously unreleased)
6. Pop Art Poem (Jam fan club flexi-disc, from 'Extras')
7. Rain (demo from 'Direction, Reaction, Creation')
8. Boy About Town (demo - previously unreleased)
9. Dream Time (demo from 'Direction, Reaction, Creation')
10. Dead End Street (demo from 'Direction, Reaction, Creation')
11. But I'm Different Now (demo from 'Extras')
12. Scrape Away (instrumental version - previously unreleased)
13. Start! (demo - previously unreleased)
14. Liza Radley (demo from 'Extras')
15. And Your Bird Can Sing (demo from 'Extras')
16. Monday (alternate version - previously unreleased)
17. Get Yourself Together (from 'Extras')
18. Set The House Ablaze (alternate 'dub ending' version - previously unreleased)
19. Boy About Town (alternate version - Jam fan club flexi from 'Extras')
20. No One In The World (demo from 'Extras')
21. 'Instrumental' (demo - previously unreleased)
22. Waterloo Sunset (demo - previously unreleased)
Me too
I've said it before and I'll say it again, Wellers quality of work over such a long time is staggering and to think The Jam were only 5 years of it. The greatest British singer songwriter ever?
Agreed.
Personally, I couldn't live without The Complete Adventures Of The Style Council.
No
He's good but he's no Ray Davies (to name one).
Got it on the day of release
and it came with a mock up newspaper. Anyone else get it?
Hmmmmmmm
I've got 3 Genesis (both official Archive boxes, one unofficial), YesYears, VDGG Box (well, it's on eBay as I never play it), a Steve Hackett, a Jethro Tull, the MOJO Psych box, and I rarely play any of them. I think the 20 Years of Tull is the one I'd keep.
So Many Roads 1965 - 1995
The Grateful Dead retrospective box would be my choice.
It's also the only physical box set I have left, that's what a peripatetic life does for you.
A fine choice, Mr EB sir
I love the version of "Death Don't have no Mercy" on that set.
The Who:
Maximum R&B - I'd be quite happy with just that one.
Likewise
It's pretty much all you need. In fact, it has a few alternative versions that are better than the ones on the original albums...
>
Got about six or seven and haven't touched them any of them for five years.
I prefer original albums-as-albums if you see what I mean.
The Pet Sounds Sessions for me
or The Complete Dick's Picks by the Grateful Dead.
Sadly
I only own 2 box sets;
The In Crowd - 1958 - 1967 mod collection.
Joy Division - Heart and Soul
If I had to get rid of one, then i'm afraid it would have to be the In Crowd one!
This new legislation
is probably unnecessary. We'll be the last generation to hang onto the idea of physical product I reckon. My nieces and nephews, and assorted other youngsters I know, all download their music, (legally and otherwise) and seem to have no attachment to box sets or any other form of packaging. The HMV know this, that's why they're almost paying us to take the stuff away these days.
All true but...
...which one would you keep?
Er...
..New Order, RETRO.
The CSN box
Some great alternate takes and choice solo tracks. Only tails off at the very end with a couple of tracks from the 'Moon Sausage' album!
I'll hang on to my Trojan Records
box set. (And I'll hide Nuggets under the mattress, taking a chance on The Record Police never finding it.)
Under The Mattress eh?
I'm a nark, this thread is a honey trap and you can expect the midnight knock.
Booo!!
We have...
...your IP address logged too. We know all about the Throbbing Gristle 24-Hour box behind the loose bricks in the fireplace.
I'm actually minding that for a friend
It's .. Erm, it's my father-in-law's.
Yes, that's right, it's his.
*whistles quietly, dropping dirt from the new tunnel down trouser-leg*
Oh if I must...
Phil Spector - Back to Mono.
4 CD Box Set
Has to be...The Famous Charisma Box
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Famous-Charisma-Box-CD-Set/dp/tracks/B0000083DC/
Easy choice
Free's Songs Of Yesterday. Lots of non album content plus a 5th disc with a selection of tracks from the spin off bands (except for Bad Co).
Regular readers will know that this is my absolute
favourite box set...
"Keith Jarrett at the Blue Note - The Complete Recordings" - 6 CD
The Fall - Complete John Peel sessions
You probably don't need anything else by them? (insert joke here)
Even if you don't want anything else by them...
there'll always be three more from the Fall later.
It's a fair cop
At a push i'll plump for this.
http://www.amazon.com/Atlantic-Rhythm-1947-1974-Various-Artists/dp/B0000...
Oh indeed !
And cheaper in the UK
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Atlantic-R-1947-1974-Various-Artists/dp/B000JFXT...
Great pick
Fopp had the CDs at an outrageous £3!!
And outrageously...
I walked out with all eight of them for the outrageously outrageous sum of 24 sovs.
No problem
James Brown - Star Time.
4 CDs, 71 tracks, from 1956 to 1984. Funk heaven!
Aaaaaaaa....
ooooww!
Hitmuh!
Takeittodabridge!
Wise words indeed (and what incredible music)
Though as Eddie Murphy pointed out - everything sounds heavy to James - he used to do that ordering a burger
classic
from start to finish, not to mind the bridge, which we get taken to, several times.
do...
one's that look like books escape this cull?
Shh.
My copy of "Weird Tales of the Ramones" sits on the same shelf as the Pekar and Crumb books, because it's mainly cartoons inside. Don't say any more or the Stasi will be around!
Well...
this is just not good enough!
Pffff... why do I bother with this place, I expect better here after all isn't this the sanest place on teh interwebs...?
Merle
got to be the one.
But they'll have to pry all the rest of them out of my cold, dead hands.
Merle "Pippo" Haggard
is still knocking them in for Milan.
Toughie
Would probably be 'Good Vibrations:30 Years of the Beach Boys' as it hits all the hits, rare bits and 35 mins of Smile BB style.
Wouldn't Give This Up Without A Serious Fight Either
good shout,pat
the best one i have by a single artist except this
http://www.amazon.co.uk/San-Antonio-Rose-11-Set/dp/B000051TCX/ref=ntt_mu...
Otis
Oh! I just love Otis Redding and was so sad when he died. His "I've Been Loving You Too Long" is a song that never fails to make me shed a tear or two. A beautiful, incredibly innovative singer and a lovely man.
Five Guys Walked Into A Bar...
takes it by a country mile. Only Bob and Bruce have better outtakes than The Faces.
Respect
great choice
Kate Bush
'This Womans Work'
Does it come with an inflatable representation...
of her in that leotard? If so I'm heading to Amazon faster than a speed freak roadrunner...
This is the one I keep going back to
It was sort of my way into Bob Dylan, back in 1991.
And it still sounds very very good.
It's a raid
The banging on the front door seems incongruous with the stillness of the house and our mothballed lives. The futility of leather-gloved hands beating against three inches of solid wood, the reverberations shaking the leaded glass in the porch. Unconsciously we absorb the noise into our dreams.
As the pounding continues it becomes more real. One by one our slumbering forms rise from their mattresses. I drag the double duvet halfway across the bedroom before allowing it to fall to the maroon carpet. My hands grope blindly in the sleeves of my dressing gown as they search for an exit. Peering through a crack in the curtains I can see a van with blacked-out windows, its headlights blazing. A group of men in long coats have gathered by the front door. Their muffled shouts condense into clouds of white fog that slowly disperses in the muted orange glow of a nearby street lamp.
“Oh my god they’re here,” croaks my wife, seemingly resigned to a new life in one the government internment camps that we have seen countless times in the public information films that are broadcast nightly on the BBC; stock footage of arthritic fingers manually compressing the cream of Motown into low bitrate mp3 files.
In the 4am gloom accentuated by my half-closed eyes, I feel my way along the landing wall until my fingers close around the banister railing. In the bathroom my daughter is forcing the contents of the Citizen Steely Dan box set down the toilet, using the long handled brush to crumple the elongated packaging.
My wife calls from the bedroom:
“We’ll put the Hank Williams set in separate cases and pretend that we bought them individually.”
“They have the Record Collectors’ price guide. They’ll know.”
My son has always taken our emergency drills more seriously. I have often told him that there may come a day when he will be the man of the house. By the time I reach the foot of the staircase the shredder in my study is grinding Nick Drake’s Fruit Tree to mulch.
The kitchen waste disposal pulps the banana-themed packaging of The Velvet Underground’s Peel Slowly & See.
In the front room the fire crackles rustically to Harry Smith’s Anthology of American Folk Music and the Arhoolie Records 40th anniversary box set.
I briefly ponder on whether my four disc set of Cuban music, packaged to resemble a cigar box, might on this occasion pass for a box of cigars, before erring on the side of caution and tossing it onto the pyre.
The banging on the door begins again. An angry Morse code deprived of syntax, like a patience-testing, 30 minute industrial remix of You’re beautiful by The Aphex Twin.
I fumble with the Chubb lock and finally get it open. A draft of cold air pushes past me, invading the warm interior of our home like a malign spectre. A huddle of shadowy figures block my exit. At their head is a man barely out of his teens, dressed in a long dark coat several sizes too big for him. Acne dusts his bare cheeks. A fierce zealotry burns in his eyes.
“Mr Seven?”
“Yes.”
“Your papers please.”
I hand him my documentation.
“According to our records you own a copy of Good Vibrations: 30 Years of the Beach Boys.”
“That is true.”
“And you own no other box sets.”
“I destroyed all other box sets in compliance with clause 967b of the Anti-Terrorism Act.”
“And there are no borrowed box sets on your property.”
“No.”
“Maybe you could help us clear up a confusing discrepancy in our records: You officially registered as a fan of The Beach Boys in 1993. Before that time you had disparagingly referred to the group as making music for “frat boys in letterman jackets and church youth clubs”. Yet in 1991 you were observed at a school disco slow-dancing with Fiona Bowen to God Only Knows, exploiting the sentiments of the song to pursue what is described in our report as a lamentable attempt at French kissing.”
“If I may explain, I was a confused and troubled young man. My friends were into Mudhoney and The Stone Roses. I didn’t want to lose face by openly expressing preference for a band that was perceived by my peers to be lame. As you must know I am now happily married. My first-born son was christened Sheriff John Stone and I have a daughter called Rhonda. It has become a family tradition, after dinner, for us to act out Mount Vernon and Fairway (A Fairy Tale) while we clear away the plates and wash-up.”
“As a fan of the beach boys you must be aware that a good deal of the material on Good Vibrations is available on single discs. It surprises me Mr Seven that, as an ardent fan of the The Beach Boys, you didn’t instead opt for The Pet Sounds Sessions box set containing, as it does, a wealth of unreleased material that deconstructs a pop masterpiece.”
“I will admit that the Pet Sounds sessions retain a certain curiosity value. In the long term I found that I preferred the finished songs over the early versions and disembodied harmonies.”
I hear the click of a safety catch being released on a Luger.
“Mr Seven if you would come with us please. There is no need get dressed. You will be provided with clean clothes when we reach our destination.”
Several pairs of hands lunge forward grabbing me roughly by the arms. My bare feet scrape the bristles of the doormat as I am hauled out of the porch and into the chill air.
As I am dragged along the path towards the waiting van I glance over my shoulder at my family. In the hallway my wife glares at me as if to say: ‘If you think that I’m waiting for you, you’ve got another thing coming.’
I will be taken from here to the processing centre on Foulness Island. After an assessment I will be relocated to one of the interment camps that dot the UK where, in a series of one to one discussions, I will be taught the value of cardboard – a resource now more precious than diamonds. Columns of Apple store employees will applaud my re-education as I learn to embrace the digital file over the CD, and exclusive online content over the tactile allure of postcards, stickers and badges. For me the war is over.
Battle on brothers and sisters.
Perfect ...!
"In the bathroom my daughter is forcing the contents of the Citizen Steely Dan box set down the toilet, using the long handled brush to crumple the elongated packaging."
No! don't put Citizen down the lav!
That's the very one I'd keep, especially for the mid period stuff, which has never sounded better.
I recently read an article by Denny Dias in which he talks about the tortuous mastering process they went through with Katy Lied. He maintains the version that appears on Citizen Steely Dan is superior to any vinyl or other release of the album. And the same goes for The Royal Scam.
My box sets are more honoured on the shelf than in the playing
other than this 4 cd set though.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Led-Zeppelin-Box-Set-Vol-1/dp/B00005RS05
This is my maiden post, so
This is my maiden post, so hope I'm doing it right. I have only one Speciality box set - it's a 6CD collection of Little Richard recordings. It's really excellent, although there are numerous alternate takes for a lot of the songs, which can get rather tedious listening to them in one go.
I do have quite a few jazz and blues boxed sets, along with a few classical ones. However, if I could only keep one, single boxed set, it would have to be Right Stuff's "Dion - King of the New York Streets." A wonderful collection on 3 CDs.
Ah Speciality,
A stuffed treasure chest but worth the price alone for Jimmy Liggins "Drunk".
and this
Whoops! Have deleted this
Whoops! Have deleted this comment, as I put it in the wrong place. Apologies - I'm a newbie.
While We Tremble
...and await the Box Set Smersh, a question arises. Anyone know who put out the FIRST box set?
Am I the only one
who doesn't own any boxsets?
Just saw this
I think I would keep Good Vibrations too, but a quick look at my shelves reveals I need to get rid of SIXTY others. Who wants to buy some?
whaddya got?
(Of course, I can only keep one, under this new legislation, but I can "make arrangements with the old folks home up the road", if you get my drift)
Drift noted.
And you're nicked. As a further penalty you must hand over all CD's in your collection between K and N - dependent on how you file. Be seeing you.
oops.
I forgot to tidy up the \< only visible to members of the resistance\> tags, didn't I ?
Oh well, it's a fair cop, guv. I'll come quietly.
When it comes down to it
Like one or two of the other posters, I don't tend to listen to box sets that much - it's a practice more honoured in the breach than the observance. Expensive items by Bob Marley, Bob Dylan and Marvin Gaye have come and gone. David Bowie's Sound & Vision (the three CD one that I believe was never officially released here) is superb and is allowed to stay; Fruit Tree likewise, although arguably it's not a real box set, in that it consists merely of the three studio albums and one of outtakes. It's essential, of course. When it comes to "real" box sets, by which I mean packages that collate a lot of material in new sequences, including obscure/unavailable/unreleased material, there are two overlords: Richard Thompson's Watching The Dark and Sandy Denny's Who Knows Where The Time Goes. My vote would go to Sandy, as it's the one I played most when I was at university and afterwards. It's on vinyl and doesn't get much play now, but I love it dearly.
I kind of like the Buffalo Springfield box set.
But I also like The Last Waltz.
But which is best?
There's only one way to find out...
i believe, (which means its
i believe, (which means its probably wrong), that crossroads- eric clapton was the first box set on cd specially made as that.
Some of these may have
appeared on vinyl before the CD version appeared:
November 7, 1985: Bob Dylan - Biograph
November 10, 1986: Bruce Springsteen - Live/1975–85
April 1988: Eric Clapton - Crossroads
August 15, 1989: Rolling Stones Singles Collection: The London Years
It's an old joke
But I'm pleased you can actually buy this:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Roxbox-1986-2006-Roxette/dp/B000IFSDZQ
Don't think I'd play it though.
As always the answer is
The Band - Across The Great Divide.
But I would smuggle Nuggets under my jumper and hope Bodhisattva doesn't notice.
Smuggle Nuggets.....TMFTL
Across The Great Divide
Really? I thought that box set was a mess: a hastily put together greatest hits with hardly anything exclusive, apart from lots of tracks recorded live at Watkins Glen. Then, a couple of months later the album Live At Watkins Glen irons out any reason to own the box set; after which it is discovered that nearly all said tracks are neither live nor recorded at Watkins Glen. Thank God they did it properly eventually:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Musical-History-5CD-DVD/dp/B0009G01C2/ref=sr_1_1...
(which, by the way, is still a steal as a digital download).
More for the music
than for the job they did on it. By the time the Musical History had come out I had bought their entire back catalogue.
But if you are going to steal my gruel everyday and throw gravel in my face in the mines then I'll leave it and bring Nuggets.
Oh I noticed...
and there's a salt mine pick-axe with your name on it. Naive mistake really. You ought to know our sniffer dogs are especially trained to locate Nuggets in particular.
I laugh in the face
of your One Box Set Per Person rule, sir!
How dare you
come on here with your phalanx of box sets arranged in non-alphabetical order!
Have a care for the OCD tendencies of the Massive, sir!
And the Hendrix one
is disturbingly tall, thus destroying the overall line, I just noticed. Please accept my apologies.
Fair enough
just dont do it again.
Otherwise there'll be the knock on the door at 2 in the morning as the Word Police come and confiscate all the Dylan stuff. And Lenny will do something unspeakable to your teeth.
Very Clever...
...in prominently displaying the Jack Bruce set. I see you are hoping to hide behind a plea of insanity.
Six discs
of bass-tastic magic from the Scottish maestro!
Well done, Bodhi
Danny Baker is running your schtick as we speak.
Stax
If it had to be only one, it would have to be the 9-CD Complete Stax / Volt Singles boxset......
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Stax-Volt-Complete-Singles-1958-1968/dp/B000002I...
There's only 4 left on Amazon... better hurry......
Danny Baker
has just picked this up on his show, he believes no of them deserve saving, they are just male house bricks that we never play. I own about 30 of them & I have to agree. Would save Harvest Festival though as its such a nice item.
Danny does often talk
a load of old balls thou, playing his audience like a master although often playing nothing but the dullest of dull modern female country songstresses
True
Danny was saying the exact opposite a few weeks ago in relation to DVD box sets.
It was a case of the more the merrier then.
It hast to be
Neil Young's 'Archives' . It is a thing of beauty.
Take Me To The River: A Southern Soul Story
Small for a box set, only 3 CD's, but perfectly formed. Essential listening.
(All the Motown complete years as one giant box set would be good but I guess that doesn't count)
Little Feat - Hotcakes & Outtakes
Always loved 'em (Lowell era of course) and love 'em still !
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Hotcakes-Outtakes-Little-Feat/dp/B00005RTKD/ref=...
J
Polar opposites
Richard Thompsons Watching the dark qualifies as one of my favourite boxsets yet the 6 cd RT box is absolutely bloody awful. Badly put together, bad quality, dreadful.
Other favourites are the Nick Cave B sides and rarities set, Billy Braggs When I paint a masterpiece set with the extra bonus disc and the Paul Weller Fly on the wall set.
Then of course there is the Costello and Nieve boxset - not sure this qualifies as it is a collection of ep's but as they come in a box and I have the set I will count it.
Forgot to mention
My wife has a 50 cd boxset of every Elvis Presley cd. She might yet be the winner and doesnt even collect cd's.
a slim volume
King Crimson ~ The Great Deceiver, you can take that
The Pink Floyd ~ Is Anybody Out There?, nope I'll keep that and it's only 2 CDs so probably doesn't count
Roxy Music! ~ The Thrill Of It All, nope, I need this
Genesis ~ Archive vol.I, take the box and the first two CDs, leave the booklet and CDs 3 & 4
everyone fine with that?
Well, It's Very Unorthodox but...
...I admire you're surgical eye here so it's allowed. However in recompense you must promise never to play another song that was a B-Side again. Deal?
No deal
there's too many tracks on that Roxy! CD that are B-sides... well okay but I am allowed South Downs because apparently on this set it's played backwards. That must equal some kind of 'get out of jail card', non?
Albert Ayler - "Holy Ghost" 9 CD box set
Does any member of the Massive own this rather special box set? Does it get many plays?
On occasions I've considered buying it, but then I've thought ... maybe nine CDs of Albert Ayler might not be such an easy listen. And Mrs duco01 would not be at all pleased. No sir. Still, you certainly get a handsome bunch of free goodies with the set, including a dried flower. Check this out...
"Inside are nine discs of rare and unissued recordings made between 1962 and 1970. Also included are a picture of Ayler with saxophone from his youth; a photostat of a handwritten note from a Copenhagen hotel; a reprinted copy of a Slugs flyer which includes a listing for a week of Ayler's quintet; a reprinted 1965 pamphlet by the late poet Paul Haines entitled Ayler-Peacock-Murray-You and the Night and the Music; a reprinted newsletter from 1969 by Jihad Productions with excerpts about Ayler; a bonus CD of two army band rehearsals from 1960 (in a mini-sleeve that recreates the original reel box); a dried flower from the box motif; and most impressively, a 208-page full-color hardcover book that acts simultaneously as a CD guide, history book, encyclopedia of the era and yearbook."
yes, I've got it
I wanted it as soon as I heard about it but I couldn't justify the £100 price tag. Last last year, I saw it in Swordfish Records in Birmingham for £35. BANG!
It's a wonderful thing, beautifully packaged, beautifully mastered. I seem to have some kind of mental block about playing box sets sometimes- maybe because there's one more layer in the way to get at the music, maybe because there's so much there I don't know which one to pick. But I ripped it all to iTunes and listened to it in chunks - much as I love Ayler, 9 CDs in a row is too much for me.
I've seen it online for as little as £30. At that price ...
The box itself doesn't get opened that much, but I think I'll have another read at the book over the weekend.
(Of course, under the rules of this thread, the Stasi will be coming in through my windows shortly to remove it as I'm only allowed one - I'd best be quick reading it)
I would go for
my Cream Collect Techno set from the 90's
I am not nostalgic for band music from my young days but I still love most kinds of dance music and I often play this.
Blue Guitars; Chris Rea
A little of everything Blues... African, English, Chicago, Memphis, Latin and a great picture book with Chris' guitar art