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The Massive: THE LOST TAPES

Bodhisattva's picture

What have you ever taped over, lost or recklessly thrown out? What one piece from the past is your Rosebud, the one vanished item from your life that could make everything alright again?

My old off-air cassette of Rory Gallagher 1971 BBC In Concert was the best performance of his I ever heard. Though many similar RG sets have since surfaced that particular session never has . What the fuck did I do with that tape? How could I have been so shallow and cavalier with my precious? Even YouTube cannot satisfy our every Jones.

So what is it? A tape? A toy? An old tour T-Shirt. The Massive Museum Of Our Lost & Fallen Is Now Open.

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My interview with Bob Dylan

Madison Square Garden 1986. Somewhere "indoors". God knows where. I hang on to nothing. Mark Ellen, on the other hand, keeps everything and, what's more, knows exactly where it is.

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David Hepworth | 23 December 2010 - 1:57pm

Rory Gallagher BBC 1971/72

There's a b**tleg of this available in the dark and dingy corners of the Interweb... It's described as follows:

Received these from a trader in the UK around 1992 that was affiliated with the BBC. He claims all were from his masters that he recorded himself, making them 1st gen. copies. Gklainer transferred these from the original cassettes to .wav files in 1998, and recorded the XM broadcast early last year. The estate of Rory Gallagher released "BBC SESSIONS" in 1999, and placed some of the original tracks from this set on this release. Those 5 tracks have been removed, along with 5 other tracks from 1971 and 1972 originally recorded that were either mono or had sound problems. The removed tracks have been replaced with the entire BBC Broadcast from 1/7/72 that was transferred from vinyl. So kick back and listen to a great sounding, dynamic selection of early songs from RORY GALLAGHER.

File Size: 869MB (FLAC)
Performers:
Rory Gallagher- Electric, Acoustic and Slide Guitars, Vocals
Gerry McAvoy- Bass
Rod D'Ath- Drums

8/12/71 Paris Theater, London
01.Maybe I Will 5:08
02.I Could've Had Religion 9:25
03.Crest of a Wave 6:54
04.Messin' with the Kid 5:43

1/7/72 BBC
05.Tore Down 6:09
06.Used To Be 6:00
07.Hoodoo Man 8:23
08.Pistol Slapper Blues 3:57
09.The Cuckoo 4:05
10.Going to my Hometown 8:45
11.In Your Town 11:50
12. Bullfrog Blues 8:26

7/10/72 Bob Harris Show
13. I Could've Had Religion 7:18
14. Messin' with the Kid 5:39
15. The Cuckoo 3:30

2/5/73 Tommy Vance Show
16. Walk on hot Coals 7:32
17. Banker's Blues 3:20

2/21/73 Saturday Rock Show
18. Unmilitary Two Step 2:03
19. If I Had A Reason 5:16

5/12/73 Saturday Rock Show
20. Tattoo'd Lady 4:00
21. Cradle Rock 5:44
22. A Million Miles Away 7:37

6/20/74 Bob Harris Show
23. Tattoo'd Lady 5:23
24. Messin' with the Kid 6:36

8/19/77 N. Horne Show
25. I Take What I Want 4:36

Any use to you?

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stimpy | 23 December 2010 - 2:11pm

YES!

It's the 1/7/72 show! That's it! Thank you! God Bless You! God Bless Bootlegs! God Bless The Internet! God Bless Us One & All! Merry Christmas Stimpy!

Now then...haven't seen my 1974 Late For The Sky tour T-Shirt anywhere have you?

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Bodhisattva | 23 December 2010 - 2:26pm

Let me know if you can't find it

and I'll mail you the link :-)

Oh, and was the shirt by any chance a blue one with him leaning out of a car window with Tour '74 underneath?

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stimpy | 23 December 2010 - 2:36pm

(cough)

Could you send me the link too? Please?

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Vulpes Vulpes | 29 December 2010 - 7:14pm

Rory

If I had a crowd recording of tip top form Rory at the Liverpool Emipre from 76, not available anywhere as I might have the master, would anyone be interetsed? Hypothetically speaking? It is by no means soundboard quality though.

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Twangothan | 10 February 2011 - 1:00pm

Spirit of '76

The Calling Card tour, which I assume that recording is from, is pretty well covered by the Rockpalast and (easily obtainable, hypothetically) BBC Sight & Sound In Concert shows, isn't it? Or was he on even more steaming form than usual that night?

For nostalgia's sake, I've been on the lookout on and off for a recording of his Reading appearance that summer, but I've never come across one.

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Archie Valparaiso | 10 February 2011 - 1:12pm

Me and oceanic white tip sharks

Diving off Fiji I filmed two OWT's that circled me for about twenty minutes down to a distance of about 6 feet. Massive buggers too.

Taped my wife playing golf over it.*

Also most festive fifties.

*Enough 'Why was she playing golf at sea already'...

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clivetemple | 23 December 2010 - 2:31pm

Most Festive Fifties...

and some pre-festive fifty 'Peel Christmas Special' shows can, allegedly, be acquired from a website which may or may not be called http://www.thebox.bz

I'm just listening to his 1976 'Punk Special' Christmas show.

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stimpy | 24 December 2010 - 1:50pm

All of my cassettes

Every single one of them. Many early 90s indie classics (Thousand Yard Stare, Kingmaker) and all of my home made tapes (doing sketches with mates, Top 40 countdowns, mixtapes, Christmas various from songs recorded off the radio)

I left them in a flat in South Croydon but I left with massive debts outstanding so I could never have ventured back.

There were hundreds of tapes too.

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jimmyshoes01 | 23 December 2010 - 2:35pm

I had full versh

of the Chris Morris appearance on 'The Time The Place' as a fake scientist which I accidently threw out with my Brasseye tape when it came out on DVD. It was in much better nick than the copies I've seen online

Still, gawd bless youtube

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DogFacedBoy | 23 December 2010 - 2:36pm

I used to have a complete collection of Blue Jam...

... on tape. Miles better than the CD which came out. (sigh)

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ganglesprocket | 10 February 2011 - 1:33pm

Here you go sir

http://cabinessence.cream.org/

LMK if they don't work. I've got the CDs from all my off air tapes

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DogFacedBoy | 10 February 2011 - 1:51pm

My complete

Panini Football 78 sticker album. Never did find out what happened to it.

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Brookster | 23 December 2010 - 2:45pm

which one,

First division or World Cup ? for the second time this week, may i introduce someone to this time machine ?
http://cards.littleoak.com.au/index.html

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Sour Crout | 23 December 2010 - 4:06pm

where to start

probably the one i'd want back is The last Danny Baker show on Radio 1.It was on a Saturday and on the monday morning i was moving to Spain. I made it ,the cassette didn't. God knows where it went. If anyone has a copy PM me please.
Also i had a fantastic film about the History of The Twist,got home one night and put it on only to find an old episode of "Rings on their Fingers" and an Episode of "Oh Doctor Beeching !" taped over it.
despite what er indoors said the dog wasn't a Martin Jarvis or Su Pollard fan so that only left her or the Pet rat.

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Sour Crout | 23 December 2010 - 3:32pm

Vinyl. Walls of it.

Taken down to Skeleton Records in Birkenhead throughout the '70s and '80s and sold/exchanged for a pittance.

Over the years, I've spent a fortune replacing what I could - and what I can't replace (mainly old samplers and stuff) I miss terribly.

This is probably why I can't now bring myself to chuck out anything.

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Paul Waring | 23 December 2010 - 3:44pm

The last 30 years

Where the hell did they go? How can it possibly be 2011 next month?

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Molesworth | 23 December 2010 - 4:00pm

None more Word

A Richard Thompson recording.

I taped him and his band playing a special for Radio 1 (yes RT on Radio 1!) at some point during 1987. Possibly around the time of 'Daring Adventures'.

It was a magnificent piece of work. About an hour long. It kicked off with 'A Bone Through Her Nose' and ended, I think, with 'Two Left Feet'. This was during the period when Christine Collister and Clive Gregson were part of his live outfit.

I loved it and played it many times. Then came that foolish foolish day when I passed it across to a mate who had shown a mild interest with the incantation, 'Here, try this. It's brilliant.'

Never saw or heard the bloody thing ever again.

It was a blue BASF Chromdioxid C90, with 'Richard Thompson' written on the label in black, if you might know where it is...?

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Beezer | 23 December 2010 - 4:17pm

In the words of my mom

"Where did you have it last?"

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Molesworth | 23 December 2010 - 4:31pm

Northumberland

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Beezer | 23 December 2010 - 4:36pm

Can you narrow it down a bit?

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Molesworth | 23 December 2010 - 4:39pm

Oh yes.

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Beezer | 23 December 2010 - 4:51pm

I have a cassette copy of this

Let me know if you want it?

I have no cassette player now...

Merry Christmas

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craig42blue | 24 December 2010 - 12:57pm

Thank you so very much!

I shall be in touch.

How very kind

Merry Christmas!

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Beezer | 24 December 2010 - 1:20pm

The Twist

Ron Mann's brilliant documentary from 1992 is available on DVD from Amazon in the States. It's one of the best music docos ever.

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chrisbk | 23 December 2010 - 6:50pm

cheers chris

on order, thanks for that,it is fantastic isn't it ? happy xmas

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Sour Crout | 23 December 2010 - 9:20pm

Cassette Cull - a warning

I chucked out 99.9% of my tapes at the summer in a fit of thinking 'oh it'll be somewhere on't internets'.
I omitted the thought that went 'you have the only tapes of the band rehearsals/general fannying about/live gigs/demo'.

the angst that lives in me is terrible

The 0.1% that survived were those that had fallen down the back of the bed/unit or were still stuck in the old car.

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James Blast | 23 December 2010 - 7:14pm

The songwriters

VHS copy featuring Neil Finn, Roddy Frame and Graham Gouldman. 3 guys with acoustic guitars, Finn & Frame getting really into it playing top songs, changing playlists and sounding great, Gouldman generally playing the third song so you could go to the toilet/go pour another drink without having to pause the tape.

Lent it to a mate(?) who wiped it - "Never mind, it'll be on again, these things are on VH1 every other week!"

That was 1998, never seen it since.

Grrrr....

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Neil Dyson | 23 December 2010 - 7:37pm

Got it!

I'm pretty sure I've still got it on VHS. I'll try a VHS to DVD transfer but last time I did one the video and audio gradually drifted apart over time. Anyone any idea why? Is it a parameter or something? I'm using the Grabbee connector which is cheap as pommes frites so I can hardly be surprised.

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Twangothan | 23 December 2010 - 8:03pm

If you did that

You would truly be a God among men!

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Neil Dyson | 24 December 2010 - 6:30am

Twang,

if you want to bung the VHS in my direction, I can do an mpg using my external Hauppauge USB TV tuner, which I keep hooked up to a very decent VCR under the desk here at Fox Command. I'll return the VHS to you and also send you and Neil the mpg on a couple of DVD+Rs.

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Vulpes Vulpes | 29 December 2010 - 7:21pm

Okey dokey

I'll dig it out. I'm sure I have it somewhere, cos I rewatched it loads of times. Only just saw your response!

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Twangothan | 10 February 2011 - 12:58pm

Apart from Back Issues of Magazines

I odn't think I've chucked away, or lost, anything. My loft, office (or spare room, as the Mrs calls it) & garage are a shrine to my hoarding.

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Rigid Digit | 23 December 2010 - 8:11pm

A Prince show

from 1994 with the NPG on a BBC broadcast, featuring a ridiculously good ten-minute medley. Lent, and 'lost' for fifteen years, and sent to me by Nasalhair of this parish. Thankyou again NH. I love this place.

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Jon | 23 December 2010 - 8:15pm

One that survived

My uncle chucked his VCR about six months ago and before he did asked me if there was anything I wanted from his stack of tapes, as I've kept hold of mine for the time being.

There it was in the middle of the pile. A label, yellowed over time, reading 'Tape 1, Bury-Man United, DO NOT USE.'

It begins with the end of a documentary on Montgomery. A still of a soldier standing in front of a grave as the credits roll. Then we're told we're heading to the newsroom for a news report. More than thirty confirmed dead after a fire at King's Cross underground station. "There'll be more on this in our bulletins tomorrow morning" - sounds so archaic now, doesn't it?

Then there it is, the blue globe and gold BBC1 underneath it with 888 in the top right corner. Sportsnight with Steve Ryder. Tony Hatch signature tune, computerised graphics and the promise of League Cup highlights in tonight's programme.

Bury run out at Old Trafford in the skintight E-NS shirt with McPherson Paints splayed across the torso and tiny navy shorts. We don't really make many chances in the first half, but given the team that United have put out on this drizzly night in November 1987 - when they still took the League Cup fourth round game against a third tier side seriously - it;s a creditable performance so far.

Nine minutes into the second half, it comes. Noel Brotherston powers down the wing and knocks it to Terry Pashley. Pash knocks it to Sammy McIlroy, who's making an emotional return to Old Trafford, on the edge of the box. He flicks it on to Jamie Hoyland, my angel with a permanent black eye, who plays a neat one-two with the Northern Irishman and suddenly finds the goal at his mercy with only Gary Walsh to beat.

"Hoyland, oh yes, he must score surely," screams Tony Gubba.

He does.

"They have! Jamie Hoyland... has done the impossible. And third division Bury take the lead at Old Trafford. And listen to the cheers and look at the salute from Bury's travelling fans. Well that was some really neat football, he didn't panic, he picked his spot..."

Nothing else on that tape matters. Not Bryan Robson taking the game by the scruff of its neck and comminting a number of sly, cynical fouls which went unpunished. Not Norman Whiteside's second which won the game for United. Nothing else on Sportsnight. Not even the start of National Lampoon's European Vacation which appears later on on the tape and features Beverley D'Angelo in the shower.

The only thing that matters is those two minutes where the picture is grainy and the picture blurry from over-use.

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JamesB | 23 December 2010 - 8:39pm

Beverley D'Angelo in a shower

keep that away from Len

and me

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James Blast | 23 December 2010 - 10:35pm

Third Division Bury!

Hey I went to school with Jamie Hoyland.

I'll get me coat.....

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Pedagogista | 23 December 2010 - 9:57pm

You know that film where a

You know that film where a guy goes back in time and crushes a butterfly, an event which goes on to change the course of world history?

Jamie Hoyland scored the first goal I ever saw by a Bury player and crushed my butterfly.

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JamesB | 23 December 2010 - 11:38pm

I'd love my

Kevin McDermott Orchestra 'Mother Nature's Kitchen' T-shirt
This on the front
Photobucket
And the band on the back.
Loved it - some slabber stole it.

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PaddyH | 23 December 2010 - 10:51pm

I can't even give you mine...

...because I sold it on eBay 3 years ago!

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Mr Sparks | 24 December 2010 - 12:06am

D'Oh

Would have bought it too - I did love that t-shirt. KMcD is very undervalued, IMHO.

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PaddyH | 24 December 2010 - 12:42am

Mother Nature's Kitchen.

Paddy, I don't know how to tell you this but I've, er, got that shirt. If you'd care to take this offline I'm sure we can come to terms...

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skirky | 24 December 2010 - 12:00pm

Nice one

Will be in touch later. Thanks

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PaddyH | 24 December 2010 - 1:50pm

Cowboy Junkies

I had a shirt with a huge pic of Margo Timmins on it from around 1990, bought in the HMV Oxford Street store.

I don't suppose anybody's got one of those spare?

It was one of the few I didnt save in the loft. I found a box the other day - I can't possibly have been able to get into t-shirts the size of my Six of the Best one from 1982 can I?

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Molesworth | 24 December 2010 - 1:55pm

T-shirt grief

Yep, been there. I was living in Germany in 1987, and was lucky enough to catch Prince on the Sign O' The Times tour. It was easily the best gig I'd ever been to at the time, and in some ways still is. Anyway, I bought a t-shirt with some of the very little money I had at the time. As the tour never made it to the UK, I valued that t-shirt even more, but later that same year I was staying in the youth hostel in Geneva, when, yes, some toerag nicked it off the washing line. Bastard.

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Rosbif | 29 December 2010 - 7:46pm
skirky | 10 February 2011 - 12:10pm

Not lost - but mangled/broken beyond repair

An NME freebie tape from the early 80s (Mighty Reel). - the stuff I miss is Robert Wyatt's version of 'Round Midnight' (thankfully on Spotify), but also a cracking King Sunny Ade track and a setting of Wilfred Owen's 'Futility' by Virginia Astley's Ravishing Beauties.

Probably around somewhere else but I haven't got round to trawling for them yet.

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DLM | 23 December 2010 - 11:06pm

The Waterboys at Glastonbury

a Radio One live broadcast from around 86 or 87. It included an absolutely stonking version of Savage Earth Heart. My well worn Maxell C60 was consumed by the cassette player of a mate's duck egg blue Hillman Minx.

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Prestonia | 23 December 2010 - 11:16pm

I learnt to drive in one of those.

As you were.

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Vulpes Vulpes | 29 December 2010 - 7:26pm

Here, Prestonia

Have you tried hollering at @MIckPuck on Twitter? Strikes me as the sort of thing the old boy might have and put up on Soundcloud for you.

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PaddyH | 23 December 2010 - 11:24pm
DogFacedBoy | 24 December 2010 - 12:38pm

A cassette and a cd

The cassette was a compilation of Jamaican music from the NME probably around 1978? Played it to death.

The cd annoys me - it was a 4 track ep cd that came as a bonus with early copies of Wilcos Being there album. It included a haunting song called Blasting Fonda which I absolutely loved. I didnt lend it to anyone but I dont have the faintests idea where it went and the chances of ever getting it again are pretty remote.

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Steve Turner | 24 December 2010 - 1:32pm

Smile Jamaica?

There was an NME cassette titled Smile Jamaica which includes Jimmy Cliff, Toots, Desmond Dekker, Burning Spear, Culture, Dennis Brown, Black Uhuru etc. which was a bit after 1978 but may be the one you're thinking of.

If this is the one and if you can't track it down send a message and I'll get a copy to you.

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southstand | 24 December 2010 - 1:42pm

This chap is trying to make available all the NME tapes

http://www.hardcafe.co.uk/NMECassettes/

Doesn't look like he has either Smile Jamaica or Mighty Reel yet.

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stimpy | 24 December 2010 - 1:53pm

I have the Smile Jamaiaca cassette.

In fact, I did a CD_R copy last year for someone in the Word office if I remember correctly; I still have the 'Side 1' and 'Side 2' wav files on a drive somewhere, so if you want a CD-R copy, drop me a line off-blog. Most of it came out OK, but there's a little tape stretch evident in places, as whoever did the duplication for the NME used the famous El Cheapo brand of blank cassettes.

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Vulpes Vulpes | 29 December 2010 - 7:30pm

Jools Holland & Jimmy Ruffin

I think was pre-Hootenanny, possibly on Channel 4 around about 85, on New Years Eve

Rowland Rivron was playing congas with an early Jools Orchestra. Jools proclaimed "Gilson, give me a beat" and Mr Lavis started a rimshot & hi-hat grrove over which Jools played some Ramsey Lewis stylee licks. Jimmy Ruffin, backed by a gospel choir, sang a stonking version of Marvin Gaye's "What's Goin' On?"

I had it on VHS and it got wiped. I've never seen it repeated ever. I'm pretty sure this same show also featured Jimmy Mulville & Rory McGrath. One of them, can't remember who, performed a deadly Leonard Cohen impression, where he describes waking up beside a lady, watching her gently breathing etc as she opens her eyes and says "Who the fuck are you?"

And I'm pretty sure that this had been broadcast previously on their own show, and had passed without comment, but when repeated at New Years Eve it caused a big hoohah leading to public apologies, and perhaps even a rolling of heads

Does anyone else remember this?

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Vince Black | 26 December 2010 - 11:30pm

Beatles Christmas records

I had a vinyl record, on the Apple label, with all the Christmas singles the HJH's sent to their fan club members. A brother-in-law borrowed it in 1995, and filed for divorce from my sister the next day. I always suspected he only married her to get his hands on that record. I've not seen it or heard it since!

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Curtis from Ohio | 27 December 2010 - 11:45pm

Even worse...

goes for about $1000 on eBay these days. (From Them To You was the name of it, yes?)

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Bodhisattva | 28 December 2010 - 12:39am

Although there are a lot of counterfeit copies around...

largely because it goes for £1000 on eBay :-)

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stimpy | 28 December 2010 - 11:36am

Yep

That was the one. Oh the pain!

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Curtis from Ohio | 28 December 2010 - 8:03pm

Old Cassettes

Lots of old cassettes of Alexis Korner's radio shows, Peel shows, Radio 1 "Star Special" DJ sets (especially the Phil Lynott one where I first heard The Normal's "Warm Leatherette") etc.
The tapes were cheap 'n' cheerful and not very well looked after. I played a few, years later, and they sounded shitty and rapidly clogged up the heads on my player with oxide, so I reluctantly chucked all of them.
I suppose what I -actually- want is their contents (in superb audio fidelity of course), not the actual tapes out of the landfill they actually reside in.

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Mike_H | 29 December 2010 - 3:08pm

Get. Act. Together.

I have shoeboxes full of cassettes in the garden shed waiting to be copied onto my computer with a ION cassette-to-wotsit thingy. I've already copied my kiddlywinks singing nursery rhymes from 25+ years ago. It's time I rescued my Kenny Everett shows, SFX cassette-only pop magazine, Andy Kershaw & Tommy Vance shows and a great radio blooper tape with disgustingly funny spoof ads.

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Beany | 29 December 2010 - 3:42pm

Lost and found

Around 1983 my car was broken into in Glasgow. My stereo, speakers and a box of cassettes were all taken. All of tapes were mix tapes taken from my own records, so no big deal on that front. All of them had hand-written inserts (remember you could buy blanks that you could fill in). Nothing was ever recovered.

At that time I was a cop in Glasgow and about 15 years later I was part of a raid on a druggie house in the East End. Everything, but everything had to be fully searched in the presence of the householder/suspect. I was opening drawers, books and all sorts.

I opened up a cassette tape box only to see my own handwriting looking back at me. One of my stolen mix tape inserts had been reversed so someone could write on the other side of it. It was such a bizarre thing to see something so personal turning up in these circumstances. I actually blurted out something like 'that's my fucking tape box'. The druggie in handcuffs immediately said 'It wisnae me that stole it'.

The tape wasn't there and I can't now remember what the mix was. I decided against trying to piece together the journey that my poor tape box had been on in the previous 15 years.

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Jorrox | 10 February 2011 - 1:37pm
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