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The Lesser Loved And Short Lived Comics Of Our Youth

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Reminiscing about my old man led me to thinking about my pocket-money-for-comics days. I got to thinking about Star Lord, the short lived little brother of the more famous 2000AD, which I remember fondly for giving the world Strontium Dog and Ro-Busters. This potted history might be of interest

http://www.watchthestars.sevenpennynightmare.co.uk/history/history.htm

revealing the familiar strategy of regularly launching new titles which within months would be "incorporated" into more established titles. Tornado is mentioned, which I remember being particularly poor. Around that time there were a few turkeys, all apparently named by the same guy who had a preference for the dynamic (Speed, The Crunch).
(I'll continue in the comments ->)

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More successful, but pinched

More successful, but pinched at either end by the more grown up Shoot! and the younger Roy Of The Rovers was Scoop, which anticipated the modern footballer with the strip Stark: Matchwinner For Hire. Another feature was a fantasy British Super League where Merseyside (the best players from Liverpool and Everton) could play Thames North (Spurs and Arsenal) with the results calculated by "computer" (the back of a fag packet over a pub lunch?). Beano offshoot Plug (which closely followed Cheeky comic - a policy of boosting the morale of ugly kids?) had its own football strip Antchester United where Mantis Buchan and Kevin Beetle plied their trade under the multiple watchful eyes of Sir Matt Bugsy. (btw Does anyone remeber Top Soccer? I can't find anything about it online - I'm sure I didn't dream it).
I must say I did a double take when I saw this Star Lord cover:

Any love out there for the lesser loved comics?

*edit* Whoops! That pic came out a lot bigger than I expected.

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STD | 9 February 2012 - 2:58pm

The 'smiley'

on the nose of the starship is ahead of it's time, is it not? And out of place, considering what's happening. The art work looks very much like late Dan Dare. Frank Hampson? Frank Bellamy? Can't recall the artists name at the moment.

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policybloke1 | 9 February 2012 - 4:16pm

It's signed in the bottom left corner...

Kevin O'Neill - went on to do ABC Warriors and Nemesis the Warlock in 2000AD.

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Bamber | 9 February 2012 - 4:53pm

and more recently

he's the illustrator on Alan Moore's excellent League of Extraordinary Gentlemen.

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badartdog | 9 February 2012 - 6:53pm

As a kid

I was a regular Star Lord buyer and was gutted when it was swallowed up by the Mighty Tharg. Still, it gave us Sgt Hammerstein and Johnny Alpha, which isn't the that bad.

Then again, I also bought the resurrected Eagle, and enjoyed Doomlord and the reappearance of Dan Dare: something my dad had a bit of a chuckle at. Still think William Hague looks like the Mekon.

There was also the joy of Oink, which was made even better by the patronage of the great Frank Sidebottom

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illuminatus | 10 February 2012 - 2:38am

Are you me?

Johnny Alpha "isn't that bad". Ahem.

I think in 50 years time, when they/we do a list of greatest comic characters of our contemporary times, you'll find a huge population of 2000AD/Starlord/Eagle characters.

Dan Dare makes it; Strontium Dog; Rogue Trooper; Dredd; Luke Kirby;Skzz; Slaine. That's all top of head, with no thought or research. That era was replete with some truly high quality comic book writers and artists.

Oh, and Lobey Dosser. Not contemporaneous to me, but Dad got me the compilation of Lobey's The Wee Boy. It's a work of rerr genius.

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sitheref2409 | 10 February 2012 - 2:36pm

Strontium Dog...

Journey into Hell was the best story ever in 200AD. It would make a brilliant film. As a magazine, I think 2000AD reached it's high watermark around the early 100s with Journey to Hell, Ron Smith starting on Dredd, Dave Gibbons drawing Dan Dare, RO-Busters and some of the classic Robo-Hunter stories.

On a musical note, a particular Strontium Dog Journey into Hell episode (may have) inspired a particular single by a band known for their love for 2000AD. Up arrow to the first one to identify it...

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Bamber | 10 February 2012 - 3:22pm

Journey into Hell

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sjp808 | 10 February 2012 - 10:46pm

Oink!

How I wish I'd kept those comics.

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doomah | 10 February 2012 - 3:44pm

Featuring porcine rock god Bacon Stephens

Protege of DJ and impresario John "Potato" Peel.

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Moose the Mooche | 10 February 2012 - 4:46pm

Still got mine

Delightfully anarchic and acknowledged that kids are not innocent angels. Used to love Mr Big Nose by Banx.

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drneil | 10 February 2012 - 9:26pm

Last Septembers SFX magazine

had a really interesting article about the rise and fall of Starlord, and the eventual merger with 2000 AD. If you,ve not read it, and would like to, let me know and i,ll send it on !

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iggypop | 10 February 2012 - 6:01pm

I still have a full set of

Action comics in s box in the cellar.
It was very violent for the 1970s and I remember there being a couple of tabliod outrage stories at the time.
It ended up amalgamated with Battle.

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IanP | 9 February 2012 - 3:17pm

I had a couple of

Action annuals when I was a kid. I particularly liked Hook Jaw, the loveable man-eating Great White ;-)

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Paolo Meccano | 9 February 2012 - 3:21pm

I'm currently reading some of the...

...Commando* anthologies, but I'd love to see its sci-fi sister Starblazer similarly collected.

Photobucket Pictures, Images and Photos

*Boy's war stories written and drawn by people who weren't wearing any underwear.

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Paolo Meccano | 9 February 2012 - 3:19pm

"Aaaarrrrrg! Gott in Himmel!"

A short word there from all of the Germans in Commando comics.

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Moose the Mooche | 10 February 2012 - 2:41pm

And hello from the Japanese

"BANZAI! Aaiiiyeeeeee!"

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renkadima | 11 February 2012 - 9:15pm

Starblazer - please help!

I remember Starblazer, and I have searched in vain on the internet for two stories I fondly remember... If anyone can guide me to either of these I will be most happy!

- Something about a monster planet: a big spaceship that actually eats planets? I'm sure it was drawn by Mike McMahon, one of my favourite artists. The central character was some kind of Han Solo ripoff, a kind of space pirate, if I remember.

- Something about an alien reptilian humanoid coming to earth a few hundred years in the future. The human race has died out and he's exploring the place, and he falls in love with this female earthling that has been preserved in some kind of cryogenic capsule? He goes AWOL with her and climbs some mountain and dies in the snow. A very strange story which haunted me when I was about 10 years old.

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Stephen Merrick | 11 February 2012 - 9:21pm

The covers of the first 75 issues...

...are here:-

http://www.downthetubes.net/features/comics/starblazer/starblazer_checkl...

I hope they ring some bells for you ;-)

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Paolo Meccano | 11 February 2012 - 10:27pm

Wow, that's amazing

THanks so much for that link. Lots of memories!

Issue 71: Jaws Of Death, drawn by Mick/Mike McMahon. Looks like it eats spaceships, not planets!

A few of those other covers look very familiar as well.

*Edit: just started browsing ebay and there's quite a lot of old Starblazer on there. This could get dangerous...

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Stephen Merrick | 12 February 2012 - 12:42pm

Willy The Kid

I'm not sure if this was ever a weekly comic, but Willy The Kid by Bash Streets Kids creator Leo Baxendale was a joy. I only ever saw it come out an annual a few times in the late 70's, which was a shame as it was a much funnier, anarchic and rude read than any other British comics of the time

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Ricardo | 9 February 2012 - 3:26pm

It was never a comic

Disillusioned with the work for hire pressures and rip offs it was Baxendale's attempt to self publish and they are works of love and genius. He was well ahead of the small press indie revolution to come.

Leo created lots of fabulous stuff and specialised in frames packed with lots of detail and things going on in the background.This started with his work on Little Plum (full of bears up to antics in the background) right through his other Beano work and then on Wham and Smash where he created the fabulous Grimly Fiendish

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Ralph | 12 February 2012 - 1:01pm

I remember lots of them...

We used to buy a few every week and our granny used to stockpile them and deliver bundles every month or two including the banned-by-my-mother Action and Battle.

Dandy, Whizzer & Chips, Shiver & Shake, Topper, Beezer, Lion, Valiant, Victor, Bullet, Warlord, Hotspur, Hornet and the runt of the litter Sparky. Did anyone else actually buy that miserable publication?

I still have tons of old 2000ADs, most of the Starlords and copies of the short lived political comic Crisis sitting in boxes at my girlfriends house. There's no room for them in our apartment. When I was a teenager, one of my obsessions was the artwork in 2000AD. I used to challenge anyone to open a page at random from any of the piles of comics and I could recognise who had drawn it. I probably still could. I got bored with 2000AD sometime in the 90's but I love the oldies and have bought some of the Dredd, Strontium Dog and Robo-Hunter collections. I'm two books short of the elusive Zenith collection.

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Bamber | 9 February 2012 - 3:30pm

"The short lived political comic Crisis". Nevereardofit.

Sounds interesting. Care to elaborate?

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STD | 9 February 2012 - 3:38pm

Here's a link to the Wikipedia page...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crisis_(Fleetway)

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Bamber | 9 February 2012 - 4:54pm

They gave one away with NME in 1989.

I think. Maybe 1990.

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Moose the Mooche | 9 February 2012 - 5:46pm

I used to have Sparky delivered...

...every Saturday, for some reason. I have a strange feeling that the "Sparky" of the title was a little black boy with a bone through his nose. Surely not?! Maybe it was all a terrible un-PC dream. I think Keyhole Kate was the other major-league character.

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madfox | 9 February 2012 - 4:08pm

I seem to remember Sparky having a mascot dog on the cover

I always assumed he was Sparky. Then again he could have been a substitute like the lamentable young and hunky Captain Birdseye sub.
On the subject of offence, Cheeky comic had a character called Paddy Whack which got a lot of backs up on this island. Then again, you must remember we are a sensitive and unpredictable people. This is a country which has a constitution which says "The name of the state is Éire" and has Éire stamped on our coins, yet I have seen people here blow a gasket when an Englishman refers to our country as Éire. Go figure....

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STD | 9 February 2012 - 4:48pm

In praise of D'Israeli

I have a passion for illustration & comics and not having read 2000AD in a many a year picked it up a few years ago and lucked out on discovering the superb work of D'Israeli and his sometime writing chum Ian Edginton. Worth seeking out:

War of the Worlds trilogy: He illustrated a version of the original and then followed it up with 2 stories set afte the events. Scarlet Traces, the second volume, is superb. Writing, art, colours etc are wonderful.

Leviathan: A ship a mile long that set off for the US from England around th turn of th elast century disappears off the face of the earth. The reason being the designer made a pact with a demon. Fantastic artwork and 3 mini back up stories about life on the city size ship. Steam punk kind of thing. The last pages of the ship crashing into NY are epic.

Good round up here:
http://forbiddenplanet.co.uk/blog/2007/tripod-to-titanic-propaganda-delv...

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wickerman1138 | 9 February 2012 - 4:37pm

Cheeky Weekly

absolutely rocked. It was the best proper comic I ever saw.

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Leedsboy | 9 February 2012 - 4:29pm

Cheeky

I remember that, and especially the knitting pattern for the title character's trademark black 'n' red jumper with a big "C" on the front that they printed.

I badgered my mother into knitting one of them for me, but it was unwearably mishapen as she wasn't much cop at it.

I was distraught.

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sjp808 | 9 February 2012 - 5:39pm

Monster Fun

Anyone remember this?

I don't remember too many of the humourous strips, but there was a great adventure one about robotic dinosaurs (made as cinema special effects) that went on the rampage when their control unit got struck by lightning. The plot was that the kids of their inventor were hunting them down using their knowledge of how they were built.

There were also some pull out and assemble (IE, fold) minicomics called "Badtime Bedtime Storybooks" that I remember lovingly putting together and keeping long after the main comic had been discarded.

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sjp808 | 9 February 2012 - 5:46pm

A quick bit of Googling.

Gives me this chap, and a reminder of how odd Monster Fun used to be

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sjp808 | 9 February 2012 - 5:55pm

I loved Cor! too

nicer quality paper, can't make a monkey out of Gus, actually I loved 'em all.
Anyone remember the Kids from Stalag 41? I think that was in Knockout. Kind of like the Bash Street Kids mixed with Colditz. Very odd topic in retrospect.
Also no mention of Nutty yet - probably cos it was pretty poor ... except it gave us Britain's greatest super-hero: Bananaman!

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badartdog | 9 February 2012 - 7:01pm

Phwoarr!

Cor? Many of the names for these old comics would be equally appropriate for a mag positioned somewhere between Nuts and the more x rated variety.

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wickerman1138 | 10 February 2012 - 2:42pm

Cor!!

with two, yes two exclamation marks. The very first copy came with a free sachet of sherbet drink powder. From then on I was hooked.

At least, it said on the packet it was sherbet...

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crusoe | 10 February 2012 - 3:47pm

you're right!!

was it called slurp or gulp, maybe?

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badartdog | 10 February 2012 - 8:03pm

Goodies

Cor!! also had a strip based on the BBC's Goodies for a few years - anyone remember that? http://lewstringer.blogspot.com/2011/11/goodies-in-cor.html

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neilmbailey | 12 February 2012 - 2:40pm

Wham! Comic

As a kid I recieved a pile of old British comic annuals from an older cousin, and by far the best was WHAM! A wonderful mid 60's mix of Marvel comic strip reprints and original Leo Baxendale strips like the fab Grimly Feendish - himself immortalized in a song by The Damned

.

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Ricardo | 9 February 2012 - 7:28pm

I loved Wham!

There was something slightly subversive about it (to my 9 year-old sensibilities). Was it very short-lived? I can't remember buying it or getting it, but coming across old copies at primary school.

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Rufus T Firefly | 9 February 2012 - 7:49pm

Wham! lasted for 4 years from '64 to '68 apparently

It also had 2 sister comics in the shape of Pow! and Smash! that also reprinted Marvel superhero strips, but these didn't last as long. So weird to see the mix of American and British strips all in the same UK comic

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Ricardo | 9 February 2012 - 11:29pm

I wonder if

the creators of 'Despicable Me' were big fans of Grimly Fiendish...

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Ruff-Diamond | 10 February 2012 - 8:37pm

Haha. Nice spot Ruff-Diamond

The resemblance is uncanny. Grimly's look owed a lot to Uncle Fester in the original Addams Family drawings, but I don't remember Fester being a scarf-wearing criminal mastermind like Despicable Me or Mr Feendish. Hmmm...

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Ricardo | 10 February 2012 - 9:19pm

Boys World & Ranger

My first 'proper' boys comic after escaping Jack & Jill was Boys World, bright and very early '60's, which merged with Eagle, but Boy's World was the first place I saw Asterix The Gaul... the bonus of the merger was getting Dan Dare. Moved onto Ranger featuring the fabulous Trigan Empire... to my horror Ranger then merged with the dreaded Look and Learn, and ever Lord Trigo couldn't keep me buying that sanctimonious bible-bashing tripe. Then it was a side-step to Tiger (original home of Roy of the Rovers?) and Victor - Alf Tupper, The Tough Of The Track... trained on chips, what a dude. Mum didn't like them (for rough boys!) so it was furtive under the covers reading with a torch for a while...

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JamesA | 9 February 2012 - 8:20pm

having just looked up Sparky on Wikipedia

i would hazard that a great number of its characters are now posting here under slightly-amended names...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sparky_(comics)

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Glenbervie | 9 February 2012 - 8:25pm

Action!

Brilliant. What more did an eleven year old boy want?

And then it got banned. Bastards. All because of a bit of violence. And evisceration. And decapitation. Never did me any harm..

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Lenny Law | 10 February 2012 - 1:00am

Dad's old

Copies of Lion
Jeff Arnold and the Riders of the Range: http://www.turnipnet.com/whirligig/radio/riders.htm

And then when I got older and my maturity regressed, Electric Soup.

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sitheref2409 | 10 February 2012 - 1:53am

The Beano's fourth wall

For a period in (I would guess) 1978, The Beano's Editor (you generally only saw him from behind, and sitting at a desk) once announced to all the characters that he was looking for a new star for a new comic.

This involved a competitive process, which was played out over several issues. The eventual winner was Plug - the tall and frighteningly ugly Bash Street Kid. In the 100m race, Plug won (against hot favourite Billy Whizz) because the spikes in his running shoes were so long and sharp that they jabbed him in the behind when he ran(ooyah! yaroo!), propelling him forward.

Plug! as a stand-alone comic didn't last so long. I think it may have even merged with Sparky.

Sparky had a few very funny characters:

Thingummyblob - was simply a silent blob of viscous matter that had a face. He was physically very versatile and got into (and out of) many, many scrapes. He was mute, but his emotions were expressed facially and by words appearing over him, like "REBELLION" or "ANGER" or "REVENGE". A nasty piece of work.

Faceache - he was incredibly well drawn and was a run-of-the-mill boy of about 8. When needed to he could, at will, contort his face into terrifyingly elaborate forms (serpents, rows of fangs, multiple eyes, heads and forked tongues). When the danger passed, he would revert to normal leaving his victim mentally scarred and gibbering. The sound of every transformation into hideousness was "SCRUNGE".

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Austin | 10 February 2012 - 3:21am

I liked the VIZ take on this..

Their one-off character Arseache. Who could scrunge his arse so it resembled the arse of any creature. Trouble was, I believe, always close behind.

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Lenny Law | 10 February 2012 - 5:08pm

Faceache

along with Jonah and Jasper the Grasper were creations of the fantastic Ken Reid.

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badartdog | 10 February 2012 - 8:06pm

Plug

merged into The Beezer, originally as a seperate pull out comic when the former was still in it's large "newspaper" format.

And was Faceache not in Buster?

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drilltime | 10 February 2012 - 11:35pm

Quite possibly

I used to have a keener mind on these things.

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Austin | 11 February 2012 - 9:03pm

Deadline

Glad Crisis got a mention but anyone remember Deadline? Closely related to Crisis (they might even have merged - fuzzy on that) and home of the excellent Wired World, London's answer to Love and Rockets.

Also the home of Tank Girl. And writing that has reminded me of the Tank Girl movie...damn...I'd tried so hard to forget that.

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James EB | 10 February 2012 - 4:29pm

Deadline

Wired World was excellent, I had a horrible crush on Pippa when I was a student.

Hugo Tate was another favourite, and Deadline was the first place I encountered Milk and Cheese ("Dairy products gone bad!") as they reprinted it there.

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sjp808 | 10 February 2012 - 6:21pm

Milk and Cheese

...who eventually ended up in that Blur Coffee & TV video. Well, I always thought that's where the idea came from.

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James EB | 10 February 2012 - 7:57pm

No-one's mentioned

Target. New English Library, home of Hells Angels and Skinhead books (which culminated in the glorious exploitation wet dream that was Dragon Skins - Kung Fu meets suedehead!) decided to further cash in on yobbo culture by publishing a comic. Target lasted about a year, featured a character called Bovver Boy, and issue one had a free gift of a packet of Sea monkeys (issue two had the container to keep the re-hydrated critters in).

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Mensi | 10 February 2012 - 5:00pm

Target

That was actually quite a good read, as I recall; I'm sure there were whole pages of text amidst the models in Oxford Bags.

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Vincent | 12 February 2012 - 1:53pm

DR and Quinch

Where were they from? I used to have a book called The DR & Quinch Guide to Life. The DR stands for diminished responsibility, natch.

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Moose the Mooche | 10 February 2012 - 6:33pm

Another hit from

2000ad. and the brilliant mind of Alan Moore.

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badartdog | 10 February 2012 - 8:19pm

Something

Something Oranges Something.

Still makes me laugh.

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paulwright | 10 February 2012 - 8:56pm

Wasn't it

"Mind The Oranges, Marlon"?

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Grant | 11 February 2012 - 1:29am

Thanks for all the contributions

It's amazing that characters as extraordinary as Faceache and Creature Teacher slip from your memory but once mentioned it all comes flooding back.
But seriously - does no-one else remember Top Soccer?

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STD | 10 February 2012 - 9:23pm

I've been buying the recent bound editions of this.

Charleys War...I think there are Six books so far..really excellent.

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ablewalker | 10 February 2012 - 11:00pm

I too am collecting these

And am awed at two things:
One, the sheer quality of what Mills and Colquhoun produced
Two - It was in a KID'S comic. Quite unbelievable. Wouldn't happen today.

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sitheref2409 | 11 February 2012 - 1:18am

All brilliant suggestions so far

But I'm going to nominate a short=lived American publication called PLOP !

It was a sideways take on the EC horror comics genre. Back in the Seventies, you could only find it once in a while in UK newsagents' comic racks (usually on the south coast) along with reprints of Uncanny Tales, Creepy Worlds et al, Forrest J Ackerman's Famous Monsters Of Filmland and Hammer Horror mag etc. I loved 'em and almost have the complete collection.

The covers were often by Basil Wolverton, the American Ken Reid?

Just found this wonderful YouTube clip

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Zanti Misfit | 11 February 2012 - 1:38am

My uncle gave me his copies...

...when I was still a small, biro-wielding, doodling child :-(

Wasn't Mad's Sergio Aragones involved, also?

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Paolo Meccano | 11 February 2012 - 1:34pm

Yes, Aragones did most of the strips inside.

Still working today.

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Zanti Misfit | 11 February 2012 - 9:09pm

Indeed he was

I had a couple issues as a wee un. I don't know why they haven't been collected into a handsome hardcover like most old comics seem to be these days. Haven't even come across them on various lists of dodgy digital dealers either. Great stuff.

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badartdog | 11 February 2012 - 9:11pm

Revolver

Anyone remember this? Came out around 1990 I think, and lasted about six issues or something. It was patchy but there was some good stuff in there and I always looked forward to it. Some top artists worked on it as well.

I remember a story called Rogan Josh that I would love to read again: a kind of trippy tale about parallel realities and stuff.

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Stephen Merrick | 11 February 2012 - 9:25pm

Revolver, Deadline, Crisis

..were published by Fleetway, and very much tapped into the early britpop era (though I seem to recall the Senseless Things cropping up rather too frequently). Escape magazine was the real hotbed, though, with the likes of Eddie Campbell, Gary Panter, Neil Gaiman, Hunt Emerson et al doing their thing. Marvellous days.

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Mensi | 11 February 2012 - 11:47pm

Deadline wasn't published by Fleetway

It was an independent, edited by Steve Dillon and Brett Ewins from a studio in Lavington Street, London SE1. Best known for Tank Girl by Martin and Hewlett (he of Gorillaz fame) and Philip Bond's Wired World was also fabulous. There was money from the Astor family behind it if I recall. Everyone who was anyone in British comics worked on it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deadline_(magazine)

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neilmbailey | 12 February 2012 - 2:58pm

Yes

Grant Morrison does Dan Dare.

I rather like him.

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sitheref2409 | 12 February 2012 - 1:03am

Lest we forget, Warrior

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Zanti Misfit | 12 February 2012 - 12:20am

YES!

Marvelman (later 'Miracleman', ugh); V For Vendetta, Laser Eraser & Pressbutton (wasn't he also in Sounds or NME?), Zirk, The Warpsmiths; and my favourite ever superhero - 'Big Ben - the Man With NO TIME for Crime."

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keefus | 12 February 2012 - 12:53am

Vulcan

is worthy of a mention here. It was a Fleetway reprint title in the 70s but had a great lineup - The Trigan Empire,The Spider, Robot Archie and House of Dollman among others.

Alan Moore had fun with this stable of characters in his Albion series a few years ago when he did a Where are they now?/25 years later story

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Ralph | 12 February 2012 - 1:29pm

Lew Stringer's Blimey! Blog

There's no finer place to spend a cold Sunday afternoon for British comics nostalgia http://lewstringer.blogspot.com/

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neilmbailey | 12 February 2012 - 2:57pm
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