Entertainment For Lively Minds
The joy of radio that you don't understand
I've been working at home today to the accompaniment of FIP from Radio France via t'internet. I like it for the fact that it's eclectic in a way that nobody on British radio can possibly imagine: today I've heard Howlin Wolf, Henry Mancini, Lily Allen, Gilbert Becaud, the Allman Brothers, the Ukulele Club of Paris, the Rolling Stones doing "It's All Over Now" and even some moderately testing classical music. I'm not going to waste my time wondering how come in a massive radio market like Britain with its equally massive public sector there's no station that can offer anything as interesting and listenable as this. No. Instead I'm going to offer a thought as to why I listen to FIP rather than anything home-grown. I like it because I can't understand it.
Let me explain with reference to a family holiday we took years ago to a resort run by Club Med. Club Med was invented by the French so that they could go on holiday all over the world without feeling as if they're leaving France. For those who don't know, Club Med is a posh holiday camp patronised overwhelmingly by well-off French people. I had a great time in this holiday camp because I was surrounded by people speaking another language. They might have been saying irritating things in maddening accents. They might have been saying irritating things about me. I didn't care. I experienced the whole thing from within my own secure bubble, where nothing could quite get to me in the way that it normally does.
It's the same with listening to a foreign radio station. A lot of the music and all of the presentation is in a language I can't understand and therefore *I enjoy it all the more for that*. Beyond the radio I listen to an increasing amount of so-called "world music". Obviously there are frustrations attendant on not understanding the song's lyric but at least if those lyrics are half-baked old clichés with the emphasis in all the wrong places I will never know. This may be the reaction of a grumpy old man, a feeling that I may have heard every variation on the basic twelve-bar rock and roll song that there is to hear, a reflection of the sad state of lyric writing today or the latest stage in the development of Western popular music. Does anyone else prefer not to understand?
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I know what you mean
...but if you don't want to hear any DJs, then why not just put your ipod on shuffle?
Or is it that feeling of being connected to the world you enjoy, without the world getting in the way of good music?
I think I do want to hear DJs...
....but I don't want to hear the things they say.
And...
the FIP presenters are all seductively voiced French mademoiselles with fabulous accents who can tell you there is a 5 km bouchon at St. Arnaud in a way that means you don't mind.
I second the magnificence of FIP which I recommended a year ago! Keep up Hepworth.
http://www.wordmagazine.co.uk/content/it039s-friday-afternoon-so
I listen to a lot of French radio
mainly Nova, which is a bit more mainstream but likes to throw in the odd curveball here and there.
At the risk of sounding sexist, the thing that does strike me is how amazing the women sound on the radio. They almost all have a voice that was made for the medium. They sound composed, relaxed and not too high-pitched. By contrast, I can't think of any female presenters on UK radio who have a great voice for radio.
Fi Glover
Best radio voice ever.
Fiona Talkington ?
Always thought she suited the late night Late Junction eclectic slot, though sadly these days it's a bit *too* late for my real-time enjoyment.
See for
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio3/latejunction/
last night's edition.
I Love
listening to the radio when abroad, for all the reasons you mention. Plus, not having to hear an English accent whilst on holiday is a joy.
Don't want to hear DJ chatter...
... but, personally, I do prefer song lyrics in English.
Best thing in a way about living abroad ...
... as I did, once, in Paris for 5 months, was being able to sit in a cafe, surrounded by people, and not understand what they were saying. Used to like some French telly-especially the oh-so intellectual debates-for similar reasons.
But I do think it all depends on how much you hear what people say in the first place-and people seem to vary hugely in this. My partner grew up in a very noisy home, and is superb at shutting out chatter, yet finds distant traffic noise really offputting. I am the reverse. I think this is not unconnected to whether you hear the words and/or the music etc etc.
Not understanding
I love encountering something I don't understand. In fact I will actively seek it out if possible....as long as I know where to look (or hear) of course. Too much sensory information is delivered in an homogenised or standardised way. Even Spotify is providing music in a compartmentalised form; it's all about ease of use and access.
So I can empathise with a yearning to find music in a unique way, a way in which I am presented with very few clues as to the whys and wherefores of the selections being made.
I suppose I'm saying that I want to get away from music as solely a comfort zone, away from listening to it simply as a salve for what ails me, away from it being just a welcome distraction.
I long for the brain I had as a boy when it was an adventurous and unprejudiced sponge with so many neuron paths unmade and untrodden and when music seemed forever an infinte possibility, my limitations solely being those of time and money.
With Spotify - and I do love Spotify - it's all there at the touch of a button. But there is so much to be gained by finding music in untypical situations and uncertain environments, the places where it can imprint itself beyond just what is heard, where it mixes with excitement, trepidation, adrenaline and maybe even doubt; the places where the emotional impact is heightened because the discovery is unique by virtue of environment and state of mind.
Rai Uno...
...(The Italian TV channel) was my fav channel when I first started watching Telewest cable TV. The quiz shows were great - didn't have a clue what was going on!
I looked at this while listening to the In Our Time podcast...
... and thought you were talking about that. Quite frankly the discussion on The Measurement Problem In Physics might as well be in French for all the sense I can glean from it.
Can I recommend a jolly romp of a book on this topic? Fi Glover wrote a travel book called I Am An Oil Tanker about visiting local radio stations all over the world. It may be out of print but I reckon it'll be on Amazon Marketplace.
The Measurement Problem
The key to understanding it is to realise that you both understand it and don't understand it simultaneously...
Does that make sense?
Measurement
There is one famously lucid account out there-in Feynman's magnificent "The Character of Physical Law". Go to amazon UK, search for that title, and use Google books to look at
pp 129-144. Fiddly I know, as you'll need to re-search for page number every couple of pages, but if you do read it you'll have seen the problem as clearly set out as I think anyone has ever done.
Totally agree with you.
See if you can find Radio Tres from Spain, they do a superb evening classic rock show, with lots of Hombre Peel style chin-stroking discussion twixt songs in hushed reverential tones, all in fabulously accented Spanish, i.e. unintelligible to me, as I have previously enthused here:
http://www.wordmagazine.co.uk/content/go-mild-country-holiday-playlists#...
Spot on
radio 3 is indeed excellent. Very eclectic
Thirded
I too love Radio Tres, easily the most eclectic station I have ever heard. As an illustration, they often have programs built around fairly random themes - e.g. songs with morse code in them! On another occasion the theme was children (songs about children or sung by them) which resulted in the bizarre sequence of Uncle Fucker by the South Park kids, followed by Beethoven's Für Elise (said by the presenter to be about a child, though I think there are alternative theories). Who needs Spotify playlists!
For those that are intrigued, the station can be heard at:
http://www.rtve.es/radio/radio3/
Theodor Bastard
There's a Russian band called Theodor Bastard. Apparently they started off like some sort of Einstürzende Neubauten-ish industrial noiseniks, but by the time I heard any of their stuff, an album called "Pustota", they'd become a sort of world music/trip hop thing with Dead Can Dance-y vocals all sung in - presumably - Russian.
The next thing I found by them was a live album recorded in Germany and some of the vocals were now in English and boy did they detract from it. Where once there were evocative foreign soundscapes, there was now the sound of someone trying desperately to reach the the lyrical heights of Wayne Hussey.
Pustota is still great though.
You may be onto something
The very first time I went to the USA I thought their radio was fantastic. The reality is it is a damn sight worse than ours with the exception of some college radio stations. I am pretty sure in retrospect that I based my judgement on the fact that they were playing records that I didnt hear on British Radio stations and therefore the newness of it coloured my judgement. Pretty soon it became obvious that their radio is more formulaic, plays stuff on heavier rotation and has more bloody irritating adverts than any of our commercial radio stations. I am pretty sure that if you listen to FIP often enough it will lose some of that sheen.
I listened to the radio a fair bit in Italy...
one of my flatmates would tune into a station that was very eclectic in terms of its musical output... one evening I heard Ian Dury and the Blockheads, Nick Drake, ELP and Miles Davis. I can understand Italian but I didn't listen to the DJ... just enjoyed the music (well, maybe apart from ELP).
In terms of record buying, I find myself drawn to 'world music' (ugh) more and more. Music unencumbered by the weight of rawk tradition, hype or celebrity.
Somehow
Listening to Radio One is like listening to tongues from a foreign land.
i'm a sucker for the news in french meself...
(nope, haven't a notion either, but to be honest, she could be telling me world war three has just kicked off in the back garden, and i'd stay put till the weather forecast...and sorry for bringing down the tone of this high-falutin' thread)
I think the correct term is 'a fox'...
mind you, we had Anna Ford.
I'm off to take a shower.
I'm off to take a shower. Lord God Almighty!!!
It's a shame you don't understand French
...the lady was in fact making an on-air plea for music-loving Englishmen to set her up with a Spotify playlist of B-sides by The Shop Assistants.....
I'm the opposite
It's interesting that you should feel like that because I've always thought that the main reason that I enjoy holidays in the US so much is that while I'm among strange foreign people doing strange foreign things in a strange foreign land, because they speak a quite good approximation of English I can understand what's going on and work out for myself if something is a bit odd or just different. When I'm in a land where I only understand a smattering of what's being said, I find it hard to get under the skin of the locality.
Language
I don't get it when friends of mine take holidays in the US or Australia, not just because what they do there strikes me as pretty vulgar (not the words I use to them - but I'm semi-anonymous here), but because one of the best things about living in Britain is that in a couple of hours you can be somewhere no-one speaks English.
It just never feels like I'm 'away' if all I hear around me are people speaking my own language. I find the language barrier enhances the 'foreigness' of my environment and that's what I most enjoy. I suspect that if I did undserstand them I'd find their conversation just as banal as 99% of what I hear right where I am now.
The one thing I always do before leaving is learn the local words for 'please', 'thank you' and 'beer'. It's surprising how far these three can get you.
And on the subject of eclectic radio, Google 'Morning Bcomes Eclectic' from KCRW.
Is this why operas are usually not in English?
Maybe it's a British thing: we don't speak Johnny Foreigner Lingo, because we don't have to, and so anything in a different language is immediately exotic and potentially sexy / fascinating / pleasing to the ear.
Also, try allRadio, a 59 pence iPod application which gives you access to a vast array of foreign stations (including FIP). I almost always choose something from the "International" section, and am very disappointed if they speak English.
Hope you don't mind...
...but a few friends and I have recently set up a blog Between Dogs & Wolves http://betweendogsandwolves.wordpress.com/ highlighting great radio and podcasts from around the world that can be heard on the internet.
The recommendations above will all be listened to and put up on the site, if that's alright. I might even manage to avoid passing them off as my own discoveries...