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The Bentley Article
Posted by woodface on 15 July 2011 - 10:42pm.
My god that puff piece on Bentley was the worst piece of dreck to appear in this esteemed title. Please don't do it again.
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Aye
Pleased someone else feels that way. Completely out of place. Heppo did his best to remain detached from the test drive process, but ultimately failed. Hope this isn't where the Word "jumps the shark". I echo please don't do it again.
The worst?
Potentially more offensive than giving Tony Blair two pages to continue his self-aggrandising? Err, I don't think so. My only problem was we did not really get that much on the actual quality of the sound-system, the main reason for being invited to the junket.
Tony Blair had his faults
Tony Blair had his faults but he also got a lot right, probably the best PM since Atlee. I'll get my coat.
Tony Blair
I have commented on this before, but I thought he was a good PM, & would have him back as PM like a shot if I could.
Yep
Me too. I would also have him shot the back if I could.
Oh, just re-read your posting and that's not what you said.
(If the security services are reading this. IT WAS A JOKE)
Haven't read it yet but
are you seriously telling me that as well as Suede on the cover we've got DH writing a feature on Bentley Rhythm Ace too? This 90s revival is going too bloody far.
I disagree.
If I got the chance to head out somewhere, stay in luxury hotels and drive fast cars about on the condition that I wrote about it a bit, I would. Heppo wrote about it amusingly and from the interesting perspective of someone who doesn't haul around in luxury tubs for a living. At the end was the obligatory little puff bit, written with tongue jammed in cheek.
I thought that the article worked perfectly. Let he or she who would turn down such a jolly cast the first stone.
I am also not yet founding the SODHAK (Society Of David Hepworth Arse-Kissers)
Yes.
Perhaps some criticism of Word's Apple obsession might (have) be(en) justified, but luxury cars? Nah.
It's interesting that the occupant of Top Gear's 'Star in a Reasonably Priced Car' is not always the recipient of multiple platinum discs but, for example, Johnny Vegas.
To go all hairshirt on our ass is just silly in my opinion.
Whether you or I would turn
Whether you or I would turn it down is irrelevant, I felt it showed how coverage is 'bought' tongue in cheek or not. It is not what I buy the word for.
James May does a great
piece on Steely Dan in this months Top Gear magazine apparently.
James May does a great
piece on Steely Dan in this months Top Gear magazine apparently.
Steely Dan
I have an unpleasant image of Richard "the Hamster" Hammond (he's not a real hamster, is he?) bending over while Jezza and May demonstrate the powerful, eye-watering thrust and rubber-burning capability of the 2011 model Steely Dan.
All the while they'd be making those strange whooping noises they do when driving their fast manly cars.
This post seems to have escaped
from the Charlie Gilmour anal rape jokes thread.
What I want to know
is how come you got 3 arrows for the repeat posting but none for the original? How bizarre.
Agreed
What the fuck was that rubbish? I kept waiting for the punchline that never came. It appeared to have been written for a Sunday Times Magazine commission that never came. I was, for the first time in my life, embarassed by something in Word magazine (I think the "Cor! Lumme" bit was the end for me) and the result was something between Jeremy Clarkson and an even bigger wanker.
I'm all for the magazine covering subjects beyond music but this was just dreadful shite. Save it for an in-flight magazine guys.
Whisper it, but Clarkson
Whisper it, but Clarkson would have done it better.
Really?
One of the world's most prominent and succesful motoring journalists could do a better road test than a music journalist? Never in the world.
I actually do not have a
I actually do not have a problem Clarkson, he is a really good journalist. Lots of people dislike him and there is often a sniffy attitude towards him on this forum.
Clarkson: the great divide
You're entitled to like him if you want, and I'm entitled not to without being labelled 'sniffy'.
Why do people...
have to take everything so damn personally on here? He didn't for one second accuse you of being sniffy. He said there was often a sniffy attitude aimed at Clarkson on this site, that is all.
Surely it isn't hard to see the difference between the two.
Thanks
Thanks
Clive James once wrote something profound about...
...Little & Large, at the height of their celebrity. It was something to the effect that while their schtick was Eddie goofing around manicly while Sid "played the part of a man just standing there", the fundamental problem was "that Sid Little *is* a man just standing there". The premise, the conceit, was simply too thin.
I can see that David thought, 'What the heck, let's give this a go, take the ludicrous largesse on offer and raise a gentle eyebrow at it'. The trouble is, instead of "playing the nods'n'winks role of a man on a freebie", he *is* just a man on a freebie. Either the Bentley is the story (in which case, yes, it's a Sunday supplement piece and nothing I'd want to read) or the freebie itself is the story. It was the latter, but it didn't work.
I guess we can't really blame David if the raw material for a decent gentle satire type piece didn't really present itself on the trip (rich boring people, champagne, flash cars, a dirt poor post-Soviet playground - short of Boris Johnson going along, I don't see the potential for much wry humour angle myself). But it's fair enough The Word trying something a little different - but I too hope they don't go further down that particular path.
Still, I don't mind because - and this ISN'T one of those 'toadying to the staff' moments, it's simply an expression of a key reason why I have a subscription - David's writing is generally the best thing in the magazine and it's kind of endearing to know that even the Hep has an off day.
This has given me an idea.
If I offer Heppo the opportunity of pulling off three point turns in my ancient Fiat within the confines of the luxury car park opposite The Ship & Mitre. Liverpool maybe he might finally make it 'oop North for one of our N.W.Massive Mingles. What d'ya think? Bet you're tempted now David.
Bet you're tempted now David.
Bet he isnt !
He comes from up north doesn't he?
Pretty sure I heard that.
Yep
Like Clarkson, he's a Yorkshireman.
It's not about the Bentley
It's about the junket. Duh.
Not entirely, I suspect
I don't think it would have appeared if the car had been a Vauxhall Astra. But yes, it was about the junket, and it was written with tongue planted very, very obviously in cheek.
I really don't see why people would have problem with it, and suspect what we're seeing is a reflexive reaction to the word "Bentley" and what that might mean - wealth, privilege etc. - and not to the article itself.
Pull up to the bumper baby
Used to work for a fairly distinguished publishing company founded and still owned by a family of (originally) central European emigres. Their socialist principles stoutly maintained in the teeth of capitalist reality, the widow of the founder would have the lovely chauffeur, Bill, drive her in the Bentley to the polling station to vote Labour at every election.
So was she supposed to vote Tory
or make the chauffeur redundant?
Long black limousine
I guess I just thought it a quaint anecdote illustrating some of the uses to which limousines have traditionally been put. I don't expect 100% doctrinaire consistency from people myself, but you may form your own view if you feel it necessary.
Does it matter whether it
Does it matter whether it was about a car most people will never be able to afford or a gourmet junket that most people....? I actually don't have a problem with rich people buying flash cars but media types playing at it on the free is a little different.
Vroom Vroom
I enjoyed it, but I think it should've been written in the style of Troy Queef. That Bentley was a bitch, and he spanked it.
Nope
It was "Oooops, here's a free trip. How can I bend it to justify the piece?" Simply didn't bend it far enough. That's all. Please don't do again.
Blimey...
He didn't have to write about it or justify it. I liked it - more tongue-in-cheek car reviews please! - and more Molly Parkin!
I enjoyed it...
and these lines made me laugh audibly:
The more features that aren't about music the better, as far as I'm concerned. What I love about The Word is the quality of the writing and diversity of subjects covered. If I started to think of it as just a music magazine I'd stop buying it.
Suggestion for a future article: Kate Mossman drives a Bugatti Veyron around Mississippi looking for the devil at various highway intersections.
Love the sound of that one!
The Mossman one, a kind Heart Of Darkness style quest to explore the human soul. The Hepworth one, some bloke on a freebie, not so much.
Why not get rid...
of the pesky music altogether?
I wouldn't be that bothered...
I enjoy reading articles about the business of music, technological changes, behind the scenes stuff (the copywriting feature was great)... but I could happily do without reading another pedestrian interview in which some musician or other rapidly reveals that he or she has nothing of interest to say. The truth is that most musicians are terrible interviewees. The exceptions - Randy Newman, Becker and Fagen let's say - are few and far between.
As far as I'm concerned Messers Ellen and Hepworth are great cultural commentators and not simply a couple of old hacks writing about music. Mr Hepworth's blog, for example, is a source of constant interest to me and the subjects he covers are extremely varied. I would be happy for The Word's content to be similarly wide-ranging, but I imagine that the everyday realities of magazine publishing would make this extremely difficult, especially in these strained economic times.
Oh come on..
We really need some perspective around here. Hepworth and Ellen are decent writers on a monthly glossy mag.
"great cultural commentators"??? FFS lets beatify therm at the same time shall we?
I stand by what I wrote...
I think they write (and speak) as informatively and entertainingly on cultural issues as anyone in the media. To me they are far better than merely "decent". If that was all I believed them to be then I wouldn't bother reading what they have to say. Perhaps "cultural commentators" was a badly-chosen phrase (I doubt very much that either of them would see themselves as such), but to my way of thinking they are capable of real insight into what makes the world of entertainment (in all its forms) tick.
You may feel differently.
Should have started...
"We were somewhere around Tallin, on the edge of the tundra, when the drugs began to take hold."
sounds like the opening of
a long lost Dan song. Continuing:
Ivan had serpent eyes, a fevered imagination, and knew where the good stuff was sold.
*cough*
*looks over shoulder*...
Follow me, mate...
But the magazine
needs to decide what its aiming to be - a music magazine or something along the lines of GQ et al.
Next month Mark Ellen has a free luxury weekend at the Savoy and tells us what is was like!
That's the thing
Music, films, books, DVDs fine. Once you get into cars, how to cook for your intended, fashion, travel, after shave ads...I'm off. There are loads of magazines like that and they are of only passing interest in the dentists waiting room. I hope Word doesn't go that way.
me
too.
Absolutely agree with your comment.
I agree
I hate those 'mens mags' which cover a little bit of everything men are supposed to like:
Fast cars
Premier League football
Tits
Watches
Hair products
Comedy
Landfill indie bands
Painful looking and bizarre injuries (never quite understood this)
I too hope The Word doesn't go that way, but I don't think it will to be honest. I think the Bentley piece was a one-off bit of fun,
I'm only interested
in one off that list.
Yes,
watches do have a certain fascination.
Bloody Weirdo.
What's wrong with football? Eh? EH??
I read several of the monthly car magazines
and they all regularly contain features on obscenely expensive watches. Not just ads, but actual editorial pieces.
In this digital age where every device we own contains a clock, I often wonder who is spending the price of a small car on a fancy timepiece?
It's never -just- been a music magazine
If they'd started out as that, they'd have gone to the wall long ago. It's flexibility is one of Word's most attractive qualities to me.
I have no real complaint about the article except that it didn't quite work as just an account of a junket and what it's like to be on a good one.
It was just worth a try as a one-off, to see what limits there are to what Word can contain.
Of course I -actually- suspect DH was contractually obliged to get a piece published somehow, having accepted the freebie, and was then unable to sell what he'd written elsewhere. Cheeky!
Gone to the wall?
What - like Mojo, Uncut , Classic Rock, Q etc etc?
.
.
Mojo, Classic Rock etc.
fill that particular narrow market. There's not much room left for any more, if any at all. I don't think there was that much when "The Word" first started. How many successful music-only magazines started when Word was first published and are still going?
Every single one of their contemporary music magazine startups I've heard of/seen in a newsagents have failed to get a toehold and have eventually, sometimes rapidly folded.
Incidentally, Uncut has always devoted a considerable amount of space to Movies etc. and Q isn't -just- about music either, if I remember correctly (it's been quite a while since I even glanced at the cover of that magazine).
Bit of an over-reaction, surely?
I quite enjoyed it but I kept wondering if the people at Bentley knew who DH is and whether they would have got more for their largesse from another journalist and publication. There can't be many Word readers in the market for a Bentley (although I suppose some loaded old rock stars may read the magazine they feature in).
There are quite a few articles about things in different issues that I don't really have much interest in but the quality of writing generally makes up for the lack of interest in the subject. As here.
Not everyone will like everything. But there's enough things to like in Word not to get too hot under the collar over the odd one that you don't.
This is where it all starts to drift away?
As a subscriber to both Mojo and Word I read them both for different reasons. MOJO only for the music, Word for music related topics. In the past Word has written excellent pieces on the music industry, on record collecting and on record stores etc. I generally like the non music stuff too because by and large it is about people who tend to be quite 'rock and roll'. However I have little interest in articles written about luxury cars however the article is dressed up. For this reason I am rather pleased that both Mojo and Uncut have remained faithful to music.
To my mind Woprd writing about luxury cars is no different to HMV selling electronics. Dont do it guys, it's the slippery slope.
Agreed, terrible piece
Like goatboy above, the words 'cor, lumme, mother' were cringable.
I didn't particularly feel the tongue was anywhere near the cheek either, in fact it felt to me that it was an article DH was somehow forced to write and felt very uncomfortable doing so.
I have no problem with non music content, sometimes my favourite bits, but if you want classy irreverent writing on car junkets just buy a collection of P J O'Rourke's articles, now that's how to do it, and I'm not particularly interested in cars.
It wasn't the best article
I've ever read in The Word, but I do think some of the comments are a bit of an over-reaction. It started off as a gentle satire (the intro in particular suggests that Mark Ellen had suggested inviting the Word as a bit of a joke and was surprised to get taken up on it) and then DH admits he actually quite enjoyed staying in a luxury hotel and driving a fast luxury car.
I quite like the idea that the writers turn their hand to other pieces occasionally - even if I don't like the piece it's what keeps the magazine interesting to read.
Dear me,
what an over-reaction. A bit tongue in cheek and moderately amusing even for one who has no interest in cars. Would have thought we would all have been storming Word Towers about Tone blathering on about leadership (but not apologising for the Irish famine) but you really just have to laugh or go bonkers.
I thought it was a terrible
I thought it was a terrible piece which did not belong in the magazine, all I have done is say so. An over reaction would be cancel my subscription, report Hep to the PCC on some spurious grounds; I shall be doing neither.
"Worst piece of dreck ever in the magazine..."
Oh go on admit it, maybe just a slight over-reaction then?
Mmm, I didn't exactly say
Mmm, I didn't exactly say that, I used the term 'esteemed title' to illustrate how much I like the magazine. I have been a regular reader for a while now and cannot recall a piece which stood out as so unworthy of inclusion. I don't feel I over reacted but if this forum was filled with neutral opinion and bland comment it would not be as much fun.
Just music?
(The) Word has never been just about music. The reason I started buying it and then became a subscriber was precisely because it covered more than music. Here's the cover of the first edition:
Note the "Music and Entertainment now" .
I didn't enjoy the Bentley piece myself, but it's not like I was forced to read it at gun-point...
Nick Cave looks young there, doesn't he?
Eh?
Oh.
music and entertainment...
Not sure how the Bentley piece fits in myself but as the magazine veers further away from what it once was so the readership will change. Those who loved it for the music writing will have to make the choice whether there is enough of it in the mag to warrent the outlay or if, like myself, they only buy one glossy a month then more complete music coverage and reviews are availible as we know in other places.
I must admit that for me it does seem to have lost it's way somewhat and is having a bit of an identity crisis.
Ruddy Hell, it's Worry and Moan.
A bit of light mockery relaying what it's like to be swept up in the super-rich - rock star milieu - world of car jollies, at Bentley's expense, spread over, ooh, less than two pages, and you lot moan like a bunch of spoiled kids. DH even manages to slip in, "No surprise, then, that I couldn't keep it up for long.", which made me snort, but you still whinge.
No one comments on two full pages arguably wasted on rejected Duffy - fresh from Pirelli - work-in-progress promo shots, presumably because it's the Dame in the lens.
You are all naughty boys and should stop complaining until you have something worth complaining about.
I actually thought it was a hoot
It wasn't like it wasn't explained as to why DH was on the trip, and I thought he did his best to keep it as wry as he could without offending his hosts.
Anyone who's ever been on a junket knows you could string a six-part comedy series out of it. But you don't as it would just be rude. Leave it a few years.
I thought it was really entertaining. I had a knot in my stomach waiting for an awful car crash. I thought DH captured the terror and thrill of speed just so. And I'm not that bothered about fast cars.
To me, the OP is just bitching for sake of it. In fact he should have written his post in green ink.
I think...
...maybe some people need to cheer up a bit.
Stop Wasting Your Life
As far as I can see some people are annoyed about the piece and some people are annoyed about the people getting annoyed about the piece.I'm getting annoyed that some folk care enough about stuff like this that they can find the time on a Saturday evening to get upset and write on a forum..........BOLLOCKS I MUST GO OUT
Bluegrass
I'm off to drink beer and listen to bluegrass.
I'm
already drinking beer and listening to bluegrass.
I think Twango might have...
...hit the nail on the head there. It's a bloody good plan and it might just work.
Very few situations...
...can't be improved by a spot of beer and bluegrass. In my case, Sarah Jarosz plus 2 pals. Cello, fiddle, and Sarah on mando cello, banjo, guitar, mandolin and heavenly vocals. All incredibly young and unbelievably skilful. Small hall, right at the front, Charles Wells Bombadier. That, my friends, is a Saturday night.
http://www.myspace.com/sarahjaroszmusic
In my case
It was Thursday night,Guinness and a front row seat but sadly no cello player. Think it works any night of the week
just had
Herbie Hancocks Watermelon man on in the car at full voliume and it sounded bloody good.
And no the car wasn't a Bentley.
Now that pinpoints the aspect of all this
that was nagging away at my subconscious. The piece began with Mark Ellen's off the cuff enquiry as to what music sounds like in a Bentley.
Mr Hepworth's article didn't really answer that question, as far as I recall. Yes he mentioned the number of speakers and some other technological geeky stuff. Yes he gave us a few #thenlistenings to chew over but nowhere did he say what that music sounded like in that car.
Quite right too...
We wouldn't want to drag music into a Bentley article would we.
Ben T. Lee
The latest in a long line of bearded, young American troubadours, Ben T. Lee presents his new album Frosty Mountain Dew, recorded on an old four track in the woods (natch).
Next month...
Monkey Tennis!
Here in Japan the humidity boils the brain
but Heppo can keep taking the handouts bless him and No. 13 Baby is just sublime on an ipod on the bus
havent read the article yet
me and my magazine are in different countries but all this *its all about the music* bollocks is just sad.
I looked at the article, and thought...
Eh? That's a bit odd.
And then I ignored it. I find cars very boring.
I think...
...you did the right thing there, Ad!
FIrst time
for everything, Col...
Is now a good time to mention
that I spent last night in Estonia, in the back of a Bentley, with Keith Richards? It was all going marvellously until he declared that he was really looking for a neater Tallinn bird.
*has whip round
for new crowbar for KatieG*
Is he now a member...
...of the Rolling Estonians?
Those boys are so
Those boys are so Tallinnted!
Now Sounding Fantastic In My Virtual Bentley:
Ella Fitzgerald - "Shall We Dance"
What's sounding fantastic in yours?
The sound of the wheels
crushing a screaming Jeremy Clarkson.
I quite liked the article
Give the man a break. Free stuff is one of the few perks left to a journalist. There's nothing wrong with writing about a junket as long as you can make it entertaining.
On the other hand, that eco-trip out to the Antarctic from a few years ago, really WAS the worst thing ever to appear in the mag.
Not to mention
the misleading Jarvis cover
Too late, I know but I can't calculate
the amount of pleasure I've had from reading Hep's stuff over the years , never mind the free podcast. If we grudge him a bit of fun which he then writes up beautifully, I don't think it says much for us.
Well I think
the Chris Craig was more to blame and its a scandal still all these years later
The issue in question
(#102) has arrived just this week in Australia (by pack mule presumably), so I've read the much maligned Bentley article for the first time today.
I really can't see what all the fuss was about. It was beautifully written with DH's usual lightness of touch, entertaining turn of phrase and just the right amount of piss-taking. I note he was at great pains to couch the piece in "who, me?" terms and sensed he deliberately dumbed the whole thing down in an effort to distance himself from any guilt by association with a beautiful, fast, expensive car. Just like Dylan's Mr Jones, he knew something was happening here, but he had little or no idea what it was. Or so he would have us believe.
That alone should been enough to placate the naysayers, but apparently not. Short of keying the bloody thing as he left, I don’t see what else he could have done to make the piece more Word friendly.
I think the problem is
That colossally expensive freebies get handed out to journalists on the implicit understanding that they suspend their judgement so as to get to play with lovely toys and eat lovely food. And that this is How It Works. Its not always pleasant to be reminded of that in an article about Rich Boys Toys when the Rich Boys are so comprehensively shredding our country. (BTW mean Rich Boys and not 'Tories' - don't wish to offend unnecessarily)
Music journos used to get shipped all over the world first class (the band were paying but they were usually too thick to realise) to go to a tour and tear it to shreds in the inkies so its nothing new - the issue I had with the Bentley article was - why on earth bother? Would there otherwise have been an interesting article in Word about cars?
Just seemed out of place, just a chance to go on a jolly.
bTW I would have gone of course.
Considering the criticism this article got
I expected wailing and gnashing of teeth at the "advertorial" article in the current issue (105?). Personally I found it quite an amusing piece and "my first headphones" would have been an interesting article anyway, so the fact that they got a company to pay for it is even better.
This was clearly marked as a
This was clearly marked as a product promotion so I thought it was fine.
I loved the Bentley piece
I read a lot of car and motorcycle mags and it was great to read a piece like this from a non-car lover's perspective. I particularly liked his description of the car 'being consumed by the horizon.' Much like my description of when riding a very fast motorcycle and getting a feeling of being projected on to the horizon. Some people really do need to lighten the fuck up and stop complaining so much about an inch-and-a-half wide column's worth of text. Or just stop complaining so much in general.
Actually, if I don't like
Actually, if I don't like something I am perfectly entitled to a gripe. This is how the world works, if we just accept crap then we will continue to be served it. If I have a bad meal in a restaurant or a crap pint in a pub I would complain even though it is just some cooked ingredients or mixture of barley & hops.
The Bentley in question
really will reach 200mph, an extraordinary top speed for such a large, heavy, luxury 4 seater.
Here's the rub, though. In tests around a banked race track, at 200mph the Bentley returned figures of 2 MPG
That's a gallon of petrol EVERY TWO MILES.
Or, indeed,
every 36 seconds.
That's
probably not much slower than actually pouring it directly out of the can.
Me, I'm not complaining...
...because I know it must take a lot of factors to keep a magazine solvent and all that, but on a personal level my heart sank - truly - when I saw the headphone thing in the current issue (the current UK one, Moje, with Noel G on the cover). I've read and enjoyed most of the current issue while on hols - but I will NEVER read the headphone article, nor anything similar in future issues.
As I said, I'm not huffing and puffing on the sidelines about it - there's much more in sorrow than in anger about this - but if the 'sponsored feature' type stuff becomes regular I'll factor it into my subscription renewal decision as and when. And if I'm lost as a subscriber, presumably the advertorial thing will have worked its magic and I'll be replaced by six other people who don't mind that sort of thing. And so the world turns.