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The Artist Formally Known As Top Live Act Has Left The Building !

Y.I.Man's picture

We must have all at one time or another been looking forward to going to a top name concert for months.

And came away from it angry. Demoralised. Confused. Pondering did we really see that show tonight.

The worse gigs you saw by major artists ? Why ?

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I've seen

The Sisters phone in a live show 4 times now, I won't get fuled again

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James Blast | 23 March 2010 - 9:35pm

I saw them at Wembley Arena...

91(ish).

A bit like the REM gig I commented on below - I adore their records, but it just did nowt for me. Maybe having such a personal relationship with certain records is undermined by the whole live experience. Especially in huge impersonal venues.

And, of course, no real effort was made to reach out to the true believers in the crowd.

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Adman | 23 March 2010 - 10:30pm

I have some salt

and an open wound here, I never saw the classic lineup(s) or the 'Rock Action' version
all I saw four times was a dead horse being dragged around by an old bored baldy man.

I have a DVD of the Wembley gig - Rock Action it is and I prayed for the best but it seems our heroes will allas let us down

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James Blast | 23 March 2010 - 11:45pm

Would have loved to have

seen them in the Hussey era.
Had 'Wake' on video & played it til the tape broke - absolutely brilliant.

Saw The Mission in '89 & they were storming. And entertaining too. Ah, halogen days!

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Adman | 24 March 2010 - 8:27am

I could sort you out with a

I could sort you out with a DVD, if I could find a way of contacting you

where's the 'contact' button gone Fraser?

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James Blast | 24 March 2010 - 5:46pm

I saw 'em at Wembley too

First gig 'back'. With Pat Morrison. I really enjoyed that one.

Have also seen the Eldritch bill paying version. Once was enough - really v dull.

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spt | 24 March 2010 - 9:15am

I'm afraid the lovely Ms

I'm afraid the lovely Ms Morrison (now Mrs. Vanian) never played live with Mr. E (there are rumours she never played anything with him) are you sure it wasn't Tony James ex Gen-X on the bass?

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James Blast | 24 March 2010 - 5:39pm

aye - my memory ain't what it used to be

but frankly, as it was Wembley it could have been a gloomily attired PJ and Duncan up there, who could tell really?

Still enjoyed it though, in a way that I distinctly didn't enjoy the Kentish Town Forum gig a decade or so later.

That might have been as much down to it being an event rather than it being any good really. (I travelled down from Manchester for what was probably only my second or third trip to London ever, it was the first gig back, I'd only discovered them shortly before Floodland, so hand't had chance to see them before - so it was bound to have something). In much the same way that the Cup Final doesn't have to be a great game for you to enjoy it (if your team's playing).

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spt | 24 March 2010 - 6:51pm

Neil Young.

Greendale. Acoustic. Before the album had been released. With long-winded narration between each song. Dire.

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JQW | 23 March 2010 - 9:46pm

One man's meat...

I went to see this show in Vicar St in Dublin and loved it, mainly because Neil was so willful and the crowd so twitchy I thought that was entertainment in itself. I'm not adverse to "playing some new" and went to the concert ignorant about the setlist and ended up buying Greendale when it came out. There was something kinda obvious and dull about the second half of the gig when he starts playing "Needle and the damage done" and everyone starts nodding and stroking their beard (that includes the ladies)

I have just remembered that I also went to see the Greendale movie in the cinema. Take that sentence in again: I went to see the Greendale movie in the cinema.

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DrJ | 24 March 2010 - 2:24pm

Lou Reed

Hammersmith Odeon about 15 years ago. Can't sing.

Shouldn't have been surprised, but was.

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busker_du | 23 March 2010 - 9:49pm

David Bowie's Glass Spider

David Bowie's Glass Spider Stadium Tour 1987 should win this by a landslide.

Mime artists in a stadium ! Interesting concept there David !

Sci-fi actors and dancers. Lip synced. Badly.

Playing most of his dreadful mid 1980s albums ! Ziggy played the fool. Even the laughing Gnome would have been better than half of the set list !

Huge stage set that did nothing ! Didnt even stop the pissing rain.

Covering and rearranging his own songs until they were unrecognisable.

Extra bonus marks go to the show I saw at Sunderland Joker Park for the Thin White Klutz welcoming the crowd with " Good evening Newcastle " !!

The tour should have been called " '87 AND CRY " !

Rock and Roll Suicide ? Too bloody right.

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Y.I.Man | 23 March 2010 - 11:27pm

You forgot the execrable Peter Frampton guitar solos

and descending to the stage on a throne singing into a telephone. Apart from all that, I too attended that gig at Joker and quite enjoyed it actually.

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heshofcheese | 23 March 2010 - 11:32pm

Huge Big Country fan then

Huge Big Country fan then are you ?

Thankfully they played a long support set which was the highlight of my day !!

They played " Restless Natives " and must have known how dire Bowie was gonna be that day, because they got the crowd who knew their songs going.

The only place Bowie got people going was to the bar.

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Y.I.Man | 23 March 2010 - 11:43pm

Not really

but went to the gig with two huge Big Country fans and two huge Bowie fans and I know who was happier at the end of the night.
Who was on first that day? I seem to think George Thorogood? We only saw the last song of their set after drinking in civilisation and realising it would take a good half hour to get to Albania-On-Wear.

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heshofcheese | 24 March 2010 - 12:26am

It was

The Screaming Blue Messiahs - Bowie liked them at the time, apparently (go figure)

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Black Type | 24 March 2010 - 11:06am

Couldn't agree more!

I couldn't agree more. THAT show put me off Bowie for about 20 years. I saw him at Wembley about a week after Prince and the difference was so stark that I just stopped playing Bowie albums. Even worse I slowly emptied my collection of much of his work; which I am now steadily reassembling. So I’m bitter on 3 levels: the wasted show when we had travelled down form Scotland; the lost 20 years of Bowie enjoyment; and the repurchasing of stuff I’ve bought before.

But, having got that off my chest – its great to be rediscovering how great he was all over again!

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grahamt | 27 March 2010 - 10:00pm

remember it well

what a disappointment.

Stevie Wonder @ Wembley Arena in 83/84 is another that springs to mind.

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GunsOfBrixton | 27 March 2010 - 10:38pm

Van Morrison

Twice. Didn't listen to everybody who warned me beforehand. Still didn't learn my lesson after the first profound disappointment.

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Fazackerly | 23 March 2010 - 9:52pm

yes yes yes...

but how was his harmonica playing?

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ivan | 23 March 2010 - 10:25pm

it was....

arse wiping good.

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Axekeith | 23 March 2010 - 10:55pm

During the 70s and 80s I rarely missed a Van tour

some gigs were transcendent, some were piss-poor but they were all memorable for one reason or another.

During the 90's he starting phoning 'em in but the good gigs still outweighed the 'meh' ones.

By the late 90's, there just wasn't any interest any more. He'd become a slick, professional show. I wouldn't mind if he was terrible and stroppy from time to time; I wouldn't mind if he walked off two songs in because "it's not working tonight" but I couldn't handle the predictability of it all.

The appearance of the visible 90-minute countdown clock was the last nail in the coffin for me.

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stimpy | 25 March 2010 - 11:54am

Van - the gigging curate's egg

Saw him a couple of times in my youth when he was utterly transcendent. Then saw oodles of awful Van shows and gave up. Wrote him off.

And then saw him at Jazzfest in Nawlins a couple of years ago and he was truly stellar. Go figure.

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Prunesquallor | 30 March 2010 - 5:13am

Van Morrison

I paid 10 quid to see him play a church hall in Bristol in the 80s and was looking forward to it in a secret kinda gig way (he was playing a bigger venue the next night)... three songs and that was it, it was no more than a soundcheck.

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clivetemple | 25 March 2010 - 12:06pm

REM

at the MK Bowl - 1994(?)
"Monster" tour.

I wanted to love it. It was just... dull.
Went home early.

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Adman | 23 March 2010 - 10:26pm

Me too (though stayed to the end)

(...when got stuck in appalling hours-long traffic queues) - supporting act Blur completely stole the day.

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Remote Control | 23 March 2010 - 11:16pm

Live on BBC?

Is that the one broadcast on the BBC? If so I love that show. I saw them in Huddersfield where support the Beautiful south covered Oasis who had not shown up. The disappointing thing was the touts offering tickets for a fiver each.

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paulwright | 25 March 2010 - 11:30am

the one on the BBC was the next night

Support act was Radiohead. Listened to the last few songs on the radio as I sped away from MK in the car thus avoiding the inevitable traffic jams.

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GunsOfBrixton | 27 March 2010 - 10:41pm

Belle & Sebastian

I don't know if they count as major, but anyway..

Went with an ex-girlfriend who was a huge fan. I quite liked them, but my god.. they had to be the quietest band ever. There were about 20 of them on stage and you could barely hear them. Two people were chatting in front of us and you couldn't hear the band over the conversation.

Cowboy Junkies at the Dominion, Tottenham Court Road. Seated venue, hushed delivery of the Trinity Sessions songs, cue me falling asleep.

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SimonL | 23 March 2010 - 10:46pm

Michael Jackson, Wembley Stadium, 1991...

The video to Billie Jean played on screens as he was performing it. This for me sums up the cold and sterile professionalism of the concert; the inverse of everything I want from music... spontaneity, interaction, improvisation, mistakes, humour... all were totally absent. Tragically this type of 'live' show has since become the norm with mega-selling pop acts.

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Patrick Crowther | 23 March 2010 - 11:01pm

You should have gone to...

Prince. Even if his show's rehearsed to death, it always feels spontaneous and open to improvisation... he's definitely Old Skool in the crowd-pleasing interaction stakes, and funny to boot.

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Black Type | 24 March 2010 - 12:10am

Links in well

to the Ben Folds/Chatroulette thread.....now there's a guy being spontaneous and creative.

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el toro calvo grande | 24 March 2010 - 9:30am

I saw Prince at Wembley Arena in 1990...

and he was superb. The concert was made especially memorable by the fact that it had been a burning hot day and the inside of the venue felt like an oven. Around me scores of young women had decided they could bear the heat no longer and had stripped off down to their bras. My eyes weren't as glued to the stage as they normally were at gigs, let me tell you...

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Patrick Crowther | 24 March 2010 - 11:28am

symbol

Never seen Prince, only TAFKAP. In Manchester he started off with a taped medley of his greatest hits, and then announced he would not be playing any of them. The evening never recovered. Otherwise it would probably have been quite good.

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paulwright | 25 March 2010 - 11:32am

"Here's the hits on tape, now I don't need to play 'em"

That's quite classy in a perverse sort of way - almost as good as the Neil Young 'Tonights The Night' tale.

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stimpy | 25 March 2010 - 11:58am

I saw him on that tour too

and thought it was fantastic. There had been plenty of advance warning that he wouldn't be playing the 'hits' - as it turned out, the show was based on the 'Gold Experience' album, his best of the 90s (this was prior to its release, during the contractual dispute/'slave' saga) so everything sounded fresh and intriguing. He also played some unexpected older songs, such as 'I Love U in Me' and 'She Is Always In My Hair', which again was much more interesting to me than another run-through of 'Kiss'. The finale, when I heard 'Gold' for the first time, was a truly transcendent moment.

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Black Type | 25 March 2010 - 1:18pm

at this point in time

... the Prince shows were amazing. I saw him in 1986 (doing Parade) and 1988 (lovesexy) which were staggering as well as 1990. But not long after that it all went wrong didn't it - so much so I couldn't even be bothered going to one of his 21 nights. I suspect I missed a treat, but the interest just wasn't there.

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grahamt | 27 March 2010 - 10:03pm

Prince shows

are always amazing; I saw him on most of the tours from 1988 to the 21 Nights. He was, and is, never anything short(!) of being an utterly astonishing live performer.

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Black Type | 27 March 2010 - 10:30pm

The Kinks

Wembley Arena, either '93 or '94.

Nine Below Zero were the support and pumped it up rightly.

Then Ray and the boys came on for half an hour or so of muddy sounding rock then left the stage for about another half hour to allow some interpretive dancers to dance interpretivley on podiums.

They came back on to play the hits but I'd lost any momentum and we trooped out before the end.

Happily the then 19 year old girl I was with who had wanted to see a 'legendary' band play and see what all the fuss may have been about left with an undying love of Nine Below Zero and old fashioned r'n'b. Dr Feelgood, Nick Lowe and Ry Cooder etc soon became her listening choices. I feel good about that.

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Beezer | 23 March 2010 - 11:10pm

Yeah the worst concert i've ever seen

is The Kinks in '93 at Glastonbury (headlining on the Main Stage!).
Just the absolute pits in every way. The only time i've been angry at a concert it was so bad.

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sandamiano | 24 March 2010 - 2:19am

Lou Reed

Stockholm Cirkus about 15 years ago. Can't sing.

Shouldn't have been surprised, but was.

Perhaps this was the same tour that "busker_du" (above) saw.

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duco01 | 23 March 2010 - 11:10pm

Megadeth

in their 'bare chested men of rawk' phase c. Rust in Peace, I took my Godson along (his first proper gig) and had to apologise to him afterwards, he's turned out fine thankfully nice wife and two kids now.

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James Blast | 23 March 2010 - 11:52pm

Not another "emotional" run through of Hey Jude

Paul McCartney at Glastonbury 2004 was even worse than any of his numerous appearances with celeb chums at assorted charidee do's on the telly. Despite the sing-a-longs it was curiously uninvolving and was darn tedious I left early to go and watch the Hothouse Flowers in the Acoustic Tent. They were great as it happens. Dot Cotton and the old geezer from 'Lovejoy' were giving it socks up the front.

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Hot Lunch | 24 March 2010 - 12:25am

Dudley Sutton

aka Tinker sings onstage with Hothouse flowers in an episode of Lovejoy. They do Whiskey in the Jar. I did security when they filmed an episode in Brighton. Lovely bloke. Ian McShane was nice too. Chatted to us about football.

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Sour Crout | 24 March 2010 - 9:27am

Think I've posted this before.

Golden Earring,at the hight of their short lived fame played the Liverpool Stadium.At that time I'd go see whoever was on every Saturday as I had a mate who worked there and could get me in for nowt.The "Earring" were shite,the only time I've seen a whole audience get up as one and leave.Lou Reed,same venue,so out of it he fell off the front of the stage.Dire.

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Pencilsqueezer | 24 March 2010 - 8:43am

Violent Femmes

InNew York. Prob 2001/2. Just after Gano's Hitting the Ground was released. Gano looked bored, the rest wanted to show off their noodling and the crowd was full of boorish, letching frat boys. One even crushed a beer can on his forehead, which I never realised actually happened outside films.

Mrs SPT who's a bigger Femmes fan than me led the walkout after 40 minutes.

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spt | 24 March 2010 - 9:22am

I was going to say the Violent Femmes too

London, probably 1999. Gano was so miserable, and so scornful of the crowd. I've never paid good money before to have someone be so unpleasant to me! Have refused to see them again.

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Hannah | 2 April 2010 - 11:21am

Seth Lakeman

I really liked Freedom Fields, and had seen him live with The Equation many years before. So expectations were high for his solo show before the release of his most recent album.

Oh dear.

The show was stolen, utterly, by Teddy Thompson, who came on and did a solo set of country songs. He was mesmerizing.

Seth came on, and gave it plenty of welly, but it was just a load of acoustic guitar going 'daka-daka-daka,d-dak-dak-a-daka' with fiddle doing the same pattern, a curiously redundant percussionist, and an underemployed drummer. The bassman was the only one playing a different rhythm. Seth emoted unconvincingly over this mess. The ladies & some of the men loved his himbo look.

I thought it was like watching someone support the Levellers at the Mean Fiddler in the early 90s. I never bought any of Seth's records since this - but I still love Freedom Fields.

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Andrew Bradley | 24 March 2010 - 11:01am

Peter Green

A few comebacks ago, one of my all time heros, at the Venue in London in the early 80s. Poor bloke just couldn't play, and whispered his vocals into the mic. Heartbreaking. Backed by a deafeningly loud and unsympathetic band, with patronising second guitarist who would blaze out metal riffs then refer to Peter as "Pete - the legend"....I lasted 40 minutes and had to leave, thoroughly depressed.

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Twangothan | 24 March 2010 - 11:28am

Agree About Seth

& Bowie's Glass Spider - I saw it in Paris where the support was the Cult, who were great. It started raining halway through Bowie's set so I left. I saw U2 & The Pogues the following day and had a terrific time.

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wayfarer | 24 March 2010 - 11:32am

Taking The Piss

AC/DC at Monsters of Rock 1981.

Piss poor sound all day. Mixed by a pissed one eared idiot.

Piss poor organisation in and out Donnington Park.

Piss tasting beer. Didnt chance the " food " .

Piss flowing everywhere at the " toilets " .

Piss raining out of the sky in plastic bottles and beer cans.

Pissed down with rain most of the day.

Pissed right off with the whole day !

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Y.I.Man | 26 March 2010 - 8:26pm

Bob Dylan

I haven't been able to listen to him since I saw him in Townsville in '97 or '98. I was a big Bob fan and he was touring behind a great album (Time Out of Mind). I had numerous Bob bootlegs and live albums from all eras and well knew his approach to live performance, so I neither wanted nor expected a regurgitation of the recorded versions.
What I got was easily the worst concert I've ever been to. The only explanation I have is that he was willfully trying to destroy every song. The typical pattern went like this:
-Bob would lurch into something on his strat in an indefinable key and tempo(treble maxed out for the shrillest, thinest tone I've ever heard)
-The support band (superb musos btw) would have a quick huddle, decide what the song was most likely to be and kick in
-Bob would start braying like a violated yak.
-After a minute or two someone in the audience would catch a mumbled chorus and the song title would be whispered from person to person across the stadium, followed by a ripple of polite applause. On occassion someone would try to join in on a chorus for a bar or two before clearing their throat in embarrassment and giving up
-In EVERY SINGLE SONG Bob would start playing the same Chuck Berry-style double-stop lick on his guitar IN THE WRONG F****NG KEY! (I was close enough to the stage to see where everyone's hands were, and he was almost always a semitone sharp, for you musos)
-The band would flit from key to key trying to find the tonal centre for Bob's free-form excursions before the song would peter out and it would all start over again

There is not one pub in the world that would have tolerated the noise coming from that stage for more than two minutes before pulling the plug. I don't buy the excuses that everybody seems to make for him that he is reinterpreting old songs and that the results can be hit or miss. Reinterpretation is fantastic, but it doesn't excuse him from displaying at least a basic level of musicianship and respect for his audience.

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Podicle | 29 March 2010 - 7:32am

Yes Yes Yes

During the seventies I was a massive fan of Yes. My mates and i got tickets to see them on the Tales from Topographic Oceans tour. This was before the album had been released so there was no chance of us getting a pre-gig hearing of said album. They came on stage and proceeded to play the whole of this over-long double album from start to finish. We wanted the hits and got this drivel. From memory we got Roundabout and Yours is no disgrace as bolted on encores but it was a monumental let down.

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Steve Turner | 29 March 2010 - 9:17am

Oh....

for a time machine and your ticket!

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tkdmart | 30 March 2010 - 12:56pm

At least they didn't do a Neil Young...

and play their new unheard album twice.

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Patrick Crowther | 17 April 2010 - 10:35pm

His Bobness...

... at UCI about 4 years ago. He played keyboards the whole night, but was set up perpendicular to the front of the stage so he never had to look at the audience. At the conclusion of every song, the stage lights would go down, Bob would retreat from his organ (God knows what he was doing). A minute or two later he would approach his keyboard, the lights would go up and the next "tune" (notice I used inverted commas) would start.

Every song was rearranged to within an inch of its life, rendering even his best known songs virtually unrecognizable. Everything was played as if it was an "alt.country" song and Bob never once spoke to, or even acknowledged his audience.

I've never been bored at a concert before. I guess there's always a first time. I left after about an hour.

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Billybob Dylan | 29 March 2010 - 8:53pm

Anybody had the misfortune

Anybody had the misfortune to see Whitney Houston on her much discussed current UK Tour ?

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Y.I.Man | 17 April 2010 - 4:48pm

You wont believe your ears !

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Y.I.Man | 21 April 2010 - 8:34pm

Pixies early 90's

In Glasgow at the SECC supported by Teenage Fanclub [who seemed to support every big band in Glasgow at the time, it was their 'Bandwagonesqe' period, don't get me wrong i love a lot of TFC stuff, but to see them trudge through that album yet again was toe curling], the Pixies come on, play one chord of a song, safety barrier collapses at stage, and they have to go off, never to return and it turns out never to return for years.

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stepheny | 17 April 2010 - 5:19pm
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