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Synth Britannia - what did we think ?

Janice's picture

I can't believe noone has already started this thread. I've just got round to watching it and have to say I really enjoyed it though was a bit disappointed as I'd thought it was the usual 3-parter rather than a one-off. It certainly took me back to the late 70s/early 80s, which suddenly seemed soooo long ago and a bit bleak. And didn't people look so young - Depeche Mode looked about 12, especially Dave Gahan. As a one-off the focus was inevitably on a select group of artists - the husband for example kept asking if Thomas Dolby had been featured yet(he doesn't really like synth music so didn't watch, but for some bizarre reason he does like Dolby). Even Ultravox only got the briefest mention - the focus was much more on bands who used synths almost exclusively.

And as usual, it was always nice to see the people involved talking about that period, which reminded me how much aggro they all faced at the time from the music press - I seem to have blanked that out.

Sorry, this probably isn't the most incisive critique so what do others think ?

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synth talk

there's some discussion of this already here
http://www.wordmagazine.co.uk/content/synth-britannia

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Chris G | 18 October 2009 - 4:15pm

Oops

Sorry, didn't see that. Thought it was a bit odd no-one had mentioned it ...

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Janice | 18 October 2009 - 4:37pm

First section absolutely priceless

Caberet Voltaire wandering around derelict art schools making Sheffield look like the Stalker wastelands, Daniel Miller showing off his synth collection (Kraftwerk's vocoder!), John Foxx, the guy from OMD reminding you how good the early stuff was, the bitterness still of the Human League/BEF split.

And JG Ballard every 5 seconds wandering around as everyone agreed that he just about got seventies Britain down...

Later section with Depeche Mode, Erasure, Soft Cell, Midge Ure a bit more well-worn but still good to see.

God bless you BBC4!

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Moseleymoles | 18 October 2009 - 4:18pm

Nick Drake’s sister in Gary Numan video shock!

Am I mistaken or was that Nick Drake’s sister, Gabrielle, in Gary Numan’s Cars video. She was in a science fiction show UFO at the time so quite an obvious person to cast. Still, the irony.
Great programme. I‘d forgotten what great pop groups OMD, Human League and Depeche Mode were. I’d also forgotten how popular the geeky pursuits of science fiction and mucking about with electronics were at the time amongst a significant proportion of young males. Love the story of Barney off New Order spending two months with a soldering iron making a synth out an electronics magazine kit.
And as Janice pointed out it was striking how bitter they all still are about how they were treated by the press. I think on the whole music journalists aren’t nearly as blinkered and conservative now as they were then.
A good companion piece to this would be a documentary about New Romantics. Or maybe BBC 4 have already done one.

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Richard Lowe | 18 October 2009 - 5:19pm

A Pedant writes

UFO was made in 1970 but was set in 1980 so Gabrielle Drakes's character "Gay Ellis"(I have the DVD) was around at the time of Cars but Gabrielle had moved on.
Things i noticed were
1)Isn't "Only You" a great song
2)Wasn't "Don't you want me " rubbish and is it me or is it out of tune ?
3)Gary Numan seems like a really down to earth nice bloke.
4)If Richard H Kirk thinks Red Mecca was the sound of the riots,he wasn't there.

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Sour Crout | 18 October 2009 - 11:39pm

Re: Gabrielle Drake

Yes, it is her and here's the film in its entirety (NSFW):-



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Paolo Meccano | 19 October 2009 - 12:22pm

I enjoyed it

Good to see Chris and Cosey, would've liked to have heard more from them. Shame there was no mention of Dolby, nor the (much-maligned) Flock of Seagulls..it's a funny category. Numan used real drums and bass, OMD used a bass..and TG used bass and guitars (badly). Only Depeche Mode and the early Human League seemed to rely solely on keyboards.

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Grant | 18 October 2009 - 5:37pm

Conspicuous by his absence...

was David Bowie. It's hard to imagine Gary Numan sounding the way he did without Low and Heroes having appeared a few short years previously. The grand synth sweeps of Our Friends Electric and Cars owe an obvious debt; his singing, though rather ugly in many ways, sounds influenced by the Thin White Duke, and even his moves on stage looked borrowed. As for Bowie Himself, Sound And Vision had been a sizeable hit in 1977, well before any of the acts mentioned on the programme (which I thoroughly enjoyed, by the way, to answer Janice's question) had had a sniff of a hit. Although it had a fairly conventional rhythm section, its heavily processed drum sounds and key synth motif - and its lyric - were pointing the way towards the icy alienation of your slightly later synthpop "pioneers."

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Theo Zoffrok | 18 October 2009 - 7:16pm

I was impressed

by how many of the pioneers actually made their own synths. Wonder how many X factor stars could use a soldering iron...?

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Dave Holley | 18 October 2009 - 8:06pm

Aren't all X-factor contestants

either hairdressers or sheet metal workers?

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Ahh_Bisto | 22 October 2009 - 12:55pm

A good watch

and hopefully there is a part 2?

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Uncle Wheaty | 18 October 2009 - 8:51pm

No,

I don't think there is. The programme itself was split into three 'parts', but this was just to structure the chronology.

There is a kind of Part Two, more of a prequel really, in the form of the Krautrock documentary to be broadcast Friday Oct 23rd.

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Black Type | 18 October 2009 - 9:07pm

Unfortunately

I missed it but I will look out for inevitable repeat. Very excited about seeing Depeche Mode in December at the O2.

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Dave Amitri | 18 October 2009 - 9:36pm

I was unable to sleep last night...

...and so I caught it at three in the morning on BBC4. Two things struck me:

* more than one musician said that they'd made their first synthesizer from a kit, using a soldering iron and following instructions in am electronics magazine. Does anybody do anything so laborious nowadays?
* all these acts were saying how jealous they were of the success of Gary Numan and how much they admired him. I was editor of Smash Hits at the time and I don't recall *anyone* apart from his fans having a good word to say about Numan. A lot of the bitchiness they cite came from fellow musicians.

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David Hepworth | 19 October 2009 - 10:51am

I did wonder where the "Smash hits"

angle was in the show Simon "hot lips" Goddard is all well and good but they kept going on about pop but with no Pop person to fill in the gaps.

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Chris G | 19 October 2009 - 11:25am

"Does anybody do anything so laborious nowadays?"

I would have thought today's equivalent is making your computer from bits purchased at Maplins. Could you still find the parts to build a simple monophonic analogue synth?

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Lenny Law | 19 October 2009 - 12:52pm
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