BB was involved in the first two albums and that was it. I'm not the biggests, er, Suedehead, but I've got the first and third album; I have to say that I much prefer Coming Up, which had bog all in the line of involvement from Mrs Butlers young lad.
As I recall, BB's replacement was hired on the basis that he nearly sounded like the original guitarist. For the live experience, that's all you need, even when they play some old.
... but "Coming Up" is the all-killer/no-filler desert island selection. They were always excellent live too, so this should be a good night, though it's not clear if it'll be a full gig or one of those 6-acts-doing-20-minutes-each charity events, though it would be a shame to reform just for the latter, and I'm sure this will be taking the temperature for a proper reunion, too.
It always disappointed me that Suede were airbrushed out of Britpop so quickly, for me they were better than any of the others of that time.
I was shocked when that album came out. I had the first two which - for me - were patchy, good singles & one or two others but the rest, I could take or leave. Coming Up was start to finish a belter, like an album of singles.
Having said that, your blog name is my absolute number one from Suede. Top top quality.
I thought Coming Up was pretty weak - really flimsy with terrible lyrics. Filmstar, She and The Beautiful Ones particularly make me cringe, although I've got a bit of time for the slower ones on the album.
... and perfect when you have a full hour and can luxuriate in its sweep & sprawl. I'd even go as far as to say that side 4 (in old money) is the best 15 minutes in anything that might be called Britpop, but I'll stick with Coming Up as my desert island choice for the sheer pick & mix manic pop thrill of the whole thing, some admittedly ropey lyrics notwithstanding.
(But Dog Man Star is the one I'm going to play when I get home tonight - happy?)
However the real classic is disc one of Sci-Fi Lullabies. Killing of a Flash Boy, My Insatiable One, To The Birds, The Living Dead, all classics.
I loved Suede back in the day, bought all the singles, went to all the gigs. Even though I was on team Butler when they split, I was surprised at how much fun Coming Up was. Neil Tennant described Trash as (and I paraphrase) as a perfect ice-rink record - you could imagine it coming over a tinny, ice-rink tannoy and it would still be perfect.
I feel they are unfairly overlooked in the Britpop history. They were the first British band in a long time to be ambitious, to want to be number one, coming after Madchester, shoe-gazing and Carter USM, they were a breath of fresh air.
Briefly talked to Bernard Butler after a McAlmont & Butler gig once, he was probably the nicest musician I ever pestered.
PS Any opinions on The Tears. Disappointing album, but they were great live.
The first two albums are "albums" albums, while the third is more a collection of singles. So difficult to call but ten of their greatest moments which should convert a non-believer are...
My insatiable one
Drowners
Breakdown
Stay together
Wild Ones
Together
Daddy's Speeding
Trash
The Chemistry Between Us
Everything will flow
is beautiful and overlooked.Dog is a bit of a masterpiece, 1st album's very special. Coming up was very good and I must say though I didn't much like Head Music, I thought Elephant was great great fun.
both the tv show 'seven ages of rock' and the semi-official britpop history The Last Party give them their due. also the recent MOJO special had heaps of stuff about them.
the REAL overlooked band / album from the mid to late 90s is Mansun and their album SIX but that's a debate for another time.
"Bernard Butler will not be involved"
Isn't that akin to the words "Jimmy Page will not be involved" or "Donald Fagen will not be involved"?
Certainly not,
'Coming Up' was their finest moment, and completely Butler-free.
No it wasn't,,,
... it was Dog Man Star.
Not really...
BB was involved in the first two albums and that was it. I'm not the biggests, er, Suedehead, but I've got the first and third album; I have to say that I much prefer Coming Up, which had bog all in the line of involvement from Mrs Butlers young lad.
As I recall, BB's replacement was hired on the basis that he nearly sounded like the original guitarist. For the live experience, that's all you need, even when they play some old.
No,
...more like "Robbie Williams will not be involved."
?
Robbie Williams was in Suede?
Maracas...
and gong.
Early days, before they'd really got the sound down.
I've got time for all of the first 3 albums...
... but "Coming Up" is the all-killer/no-filler desert island selection. They were always excellent live too, so this should be a good night, though it's not clear if it'll be a full gig or one of those 6-acts-doing-20-minutes-each charity events, though it would be a shame to reform just for the latter, and I'm sure this will be taking the temperature for a proper reunion, too.
It always disappointed me that Suede were airbrushed out of Britpop so quickly, for me they were better than any of the others of that time.
Coming Up
I was shocked when that album came out. I had the first two which - for me - were patchy, good singles & one or two others but the rest, I could take or leave. Coming Up was start to finish a belter, like an album of singles.
Having said that, your blog name is my absolute number one from Suede. Top top quality.
I'm not really understanding...
...the love for Coming Up here.
For me, Dog Man Star is their masterpiece. Coming Up was inconsequential in comparison.
I'm with you
I thought Coming Up was pretty weak - really flimsy with terrible lyrics. Filmstar, She and The Beautiful Ones particularly make me cringe, although I've got a bit of time for the slower ones on the album.
Dog Man Star is certainly An Album...
... and perfect when you have a full hour and can luxuriate in its sweep & sprawl. I'd even go as far as to say that side 4 (in old money) is the best 15 minutes in anything that might be called Britpop, but I'll stick with Coming Up as my desert island choice for the sheer pick & mix manic pop thrill of the whole thing, some admittedly ropey lyrics notwithstanding.
(But Dog Man Star is the one I'm going to play when I get home tonight - happy?)
Dog Man for sure
and don't forget the stream of early singles with killer b-sides, Coming Up's good and there's some top tunes on it but they lost me with Head Music
Suede MKI & MKII
Were entirely different bands.
The former were one of the greatest British guitar bands of all time, the latter an above average indie pop band.
As enjoyable as Coming Up is, I find it odd that anyone would prefer Trash or Filmstar to the likes of Animal Nitrate or The Wild Ones.
Having said that, I do have a fondness for She's In Fashion from Head Music.
Trash
is a fantastic song
Hope it lasts.
Would like to see a tour / album.
I *love* Suede in all their forms.
They were my band.
my dream
Butler and Oakes together onstage playing the hits - imagine how great that would sound
mine
too
I see the difference like this
Dog Man Star is for admiring the craftsmanship
Coming up is for slapping your arse and clapping above your shoulder alternately down the indie nightclub
I love them both dearly and am thrilled.
My thoughts
Jon Whitney is right.
However the real classic is disc one of Sci-Fi Lullabies. Killing of a Flash Boy, My Insatiable One, To The Birds, The Living Dead, all classics.
I loved Suede back in the day, bought all the singles, went to all the gigs. Even though I was on team Butler when they split, I was surprised at how much fun Coming Up was. Neil Tennant described Trash as (and I paraphrase) as a perfect ice-rink record - you could imagine it coming over a tinny, ice-rink tannoy and it would still be perfect.
Me & fjp got backstage at a Suede gig once and ended up giving Neil Codling a lift. Recounted here...
http://fantasyjackpalance.com/fjp/sound/tickets/data/20a_suede_mtv.html
I feel they are unfairly overlooked in the Britpop history. They were the first British band in a long time to be ambitious, to want to be number one, coming after Madchester, shoe-gazing and Carter USM, they were a breath of fresh air.
Briefly talked to Bernard Butler after a McAlmont & Butler gig once, he was probably the nicest musician I ever pestered.
PS Any opinions on The Tears. Disappointing album, but they were great live.
I got the EP with this on...
If it had been on vinyl I'd have worn it out.
And... re Ross' comment: surely BB is much better looking than Brett? (Perhaps that's always been the source of the tension...)
...Suede
The first two albums are "albums" albums, while the third is more a collection of singles. So difficult to call but ten of their greatest moments which should convert a non-believer are...
My insatiable one
Drowners
Breakdown
Stay together
Wild Ones
Together
Daddy's Speeding
Trash
The Chemistry Between Us
Everything will flow
Sci Fi Lullabies
is beautiful and overlooked.Dog is a bit of a masterpiece, 1st album's very special. Coming up was very good and I must say though I didn't much like Head Music, I thought Elephant was great great fun.
I dunno if theyve been overlooked really
both the tv show 'seven ages of rock' and the semi-official britpop history The Last Party give them their due. also the recent MOJO special had heaps of stuff about them.
the REAL overlooked band / album from the mid to late 90s is Mansun and their album SIX but that's a debate for another time.
a man called sun
I hear ya brother/sister another great b-side band
that's not a detrimental tag, I meant that their b-sides were full of classics like Suede's
Things Keep Falling Off Buildings, to pull one out of the air