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Style over substance

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Bargepole learns with a sinking heart that the forthcoming issue features an article on The Divine Comedy, surely one of the most overrated acts of all time.
What other examples of 'style over substance' spring to the fertile mind of the Massive?

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They had style?

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billyous | 7 August 2009 - 8:11pm

New project

Duckworth Lewis Method, is great fun

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Mint | 7 August 2009 - 8:39pm

Songs of Love

aka the Father Ted theme was a lovely tune, in both sung and instrumental forms. Something for the Weekend, Becoming More Like Alfie and The Frog Princess were great pop songs imho, although I will admit the Leslie Phillips act grated after a while...

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DougieJ | 7 August 2009 - 8:46pm

Spandau Ballet

Err, no, hang on. They didn't have style either.

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Mark JF | 7 August 2009 - 8:50pm

I would say

that the Divine Comedy are underrated if anything. Try this wonderful song for starters:


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Johan | 7 August 2009 - 8:53pm

A Divine Comedy admirer writes:

Witty lyrics, well crafted melodies & orchestration. A fine voice. An island of intelligent pop amid the boorish onslaught of Britpop. Some superb songs on every album.
Standout records: Promenade, Cassanova, Regeneration.
Neil Hannon is one of the best writers of recent times. He also penned the theme for Father Ted, enough said?
Not everyone's cup of tea, sure. But very stylish & very substantial. They deserve some coverage in The Word.

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Adman | 7 August 2009 - 8:55pm

Dear Mr. bargepole (for it is inevitably a bloke)

can I be your friend?
I detest Mr. Coconut Head and all his works so much I really wish he didn't exist.

as to the original Q?
Evanessence ~ is it Goth, is it Prog, is it Metal, is it Shite? - YES!
you're trying too hard dear NEXT!

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James Blast | 7 August 2009 - 9:02pm

Substance over style

Elbow, if you ask me. Just saying...

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DougieJ | 7 August 2009 - 9:11pm

Style and substance

Another Divine Comedy fan here. I first saw them about 15 years ago, fairly early in their career (supporting Tori Amos), and I liked them straight away. In addition to the songs already mentioned, I'd warmly commend The Summerhouse, Charmed Life, Come Home Billy Budd, hell, numerous others. You don't have to look far behind the image to see (and hear) a serious talent. Here's a live version of Summerhouse, a bit ragged, but you can still discern a bloody good song I think.


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Theo Zoffrok | 7 August 2009 - 9:16pm

Tori Amos Support.

I think Neil Hanlon can certainly craft a song but it generally comes across as clever rather than inspired.
I saw them supporting Tori Amos (in Sheffield I think) and I've never seen so many people decide to exit to the bar during a support act - it was embarrassing.

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Pinmonkey | 8 August 2009 - 3:54pm

Easy

Jarvis Cocker and Pulp, obv.

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busker_du | 7 August 2009 - 9:25pm

Amen!

please stick Radioheid in there too

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James Blast | 7 August 2009 - 9:39pm

Steps were over rated but...

The Divine Comedy wrote some classy, witty, intelligent songs.

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Uncle Wheaty | 7 August 2009 - 9:44pm

Divine Comedy

I love 'em.

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Leedsboy | 7 August 2009 - 9:54pm

Bargepole is mistaken

The forthcoming issue contains precisely zero features on The Divine Comedy. It does, however, contain a particularly fine piece on The Duckworth Lewis Method, whose album is brilliant... and I say this as someone who's never really liked anything Neil Hannon has done until now.

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Fraser Lewry | 7 August 2009 - 10:18pm

Go back and have another go

Pop Stars Fear of the Pollen Count is pop perfection. Plenty of good stuff in the DC canon.

http://open.spotify.com/track/1yJfwnVKFQinh5bMsPDjV5

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Leedsboy | 7 August 2009 - 10:26pm

Pop Stars Fear of the Pollen Count

It's what I put on if I need cheered up! The perfect summer song.

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Johan | 7 August 2009 - 10:42pm

But are not

the two entities essentially the same thing unless Bargepole misunderstood Mark Ellen last night.Bargepole cannot and will not easily forgive Mr Hannon that dreadful song about National Express, although he does accept that the fine game of cricket is God's gift to the sporting world.

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bargepole | 7 August 2009 - 10:29pm

Well...

I guess they're the same thing if you also consider, say, Stormbringer-era Deep Purple and Whitesnake to be the same band simply because David Coverdale shook his curls for both.

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Fraser Lewry | 7 August 2009 - 10:38pm

Ah Fraser,

a tear springs to Bargepole's eye as he recalls Stormbringer being released in 1974, those halcyon days when his locks were long and flowing and his attire consisted entirely of denim and leather.
By the way, are you not supposed to be winging your way to the land of North Korea - who will guide us while you are gone?

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bargepole | 7 August 2009 - 11:19pm

That's not for another month or so

Heppo will be at the controls when I'm away.

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Fraser Lewry | 7 August 2009 - 11:36pm

Bargepole mentions

for no apparent reason that one of his oldest chums teaches English in South Korea.
Meanwhile he looks forward to the cyber-company of Fraser for the time being at least.

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bargepole | 8 August 2009 - 9:01am

...and they shared a drummer and organist

(Whitesnake and Deep Purple, I mean. Not Whitesnake and The Divine Comedy. As far as I know anyway)

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stimpy | 8 August 2009 - 5:51pm

Duckworth Lewis Method album

Brilliant - agree completely. Haven't stopped playing it since I got it.

I was at their gig at The Oval a few weeks ago and it was most enjoyable. They finished with Soul Limbo (aka the BBC cricket theme). Great fun.

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Johan | 7 August 2009 - 10:39pm

Bumbuggerarsetit.

Fraser's opinions as regards Neil Hannon echo mine exactly.

And I was really looking forward to disagreeing with him on this subject.

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Lenny Law | 7 August 2009 - 11:39pm

Divine Comedy

are the Radiohead of whimsy.

Mannered. Clunky. Ornate. Pointless.

As for the Duckworth Lewis album - it is the sort of thing that I would have expected to see on Pebble Mill at One in 1978. As the rain beat down on the studio glass and Bob Langley tapped his toes

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Sheev | 8 August 2009 - 8:53am

I love Divine Comedy...

I've paid twice to see him and both times he was fantastic. Even Neil Hannon's failures are interesting, like that LP where he tried to be Radiohead and failed (thank God - the world needs more witty lyricists and less miserable buggers). Funnily enough though, I can't get very excited by the Duckworth Lewis stuff.

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Kit Hogue | 7 August 2009 - 11:10pm

I look into my crystal ball..

..I see myself and Bargepole..

..joined hand-in-hand...

Shouting.. together..

that

Anyone who, for the faintest attosecond, harbours the notion that National Express is not reasonable grounds for Neil Hannon to be dragged naked through the streets and then beaten repeatedly with rolled-up copies of the NME until he weeps solemn tears of contrition should be banned from listening to music of any kind EVER. Never mind passing comment on it.

The Duckworth Lewis album gives Hannon only a suspended sentence.

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Lenny Law | 7 August 2009 - 11:49pm

Just for you...

Take the national express when your lifes in a mess
It'll make you smile
All human life is here
From the feeble old dear to the screaming child
From the student who knows that to have one of those
Would be suicide
To the family man
Manhandling the pram with paternal pride
And everybody sings ba ba ba da...
Were going where the air is free
On the national express theres a jolly hostess
Selling crisps and tea
Shell provide you with drinks and theatrical winks
For a sky-high fee
Mini-skirts were in style when she danced down the aisle
Back in 63 (yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah)
But its hard to get by when your arse is the size
Of a small country
And everybody sings ba ba ba da...
Were going where the air is free
Tomorrow belongs to me
When youre sad and feeling blue
With nothing better to do
Dont just sit there feeling stressed
Take a trip on the national express

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DougieJ | 7 August 2009 - 11:52pm

Notlistening

**fingersinearslalalalalalalal**

Sorry did you post something?

**stillnotlisteninglalalala***

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Lenny Law | 8 August 2009 - 12:29am

It killed me typing that out...

...from memory.

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DougieJ | 8 August 2009 - 1:10am

or...


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stimpy | 8 August 2009 - 5:54pm

A Short Album About Love

Is a thing of substance and beauty, and Graham Johns reckons Bargepole should give it a blast (hey, this third person thing is fun!). As for style over substance, Franz Ferdinand are my betes noires, closely followed by your Manics.

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Graham Johns | 8 August 2009 - 12:02am

The Frannies (or is it the Ferdies?)

Great debut. Fantastic slice of pop in Take Me Out. Second album syndrome, big time. Haven't bothered with the third. But yes, overall, a very surface band. I highly recommend Alex Kapranos's book 'Sound Bites (eating on tour with Franz Ferdinand)' though. Very well written.

Manics - slightly disagree. Not a fan at all of their agitprop agenda but James Dean Bradfield possesses unarguably one of the greatest sets of pipes in British pop (or rock - still a tricky one that, isn't it?), and they have made some epic singles, none more so than A Design For Life, with its brilliant opening line 'Libraries gave us power'.

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DougieJ | 8 August 2009 - 12:15am

Bargepole takes breakfast,

having risen early to make the point that another pet hate is the song 'come home billy bird'. Ridiculous and irritating at the same time.

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bargepole | 8 August 2009 - 8:37am

The Divine Comedy

Bobby Crush's combo led by Scott Walker's hormunculus.

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RobertC | 8 August 2009 - 8:54am

DLM

The Duckworth Lewis Method is a Great listen.
Have tolerated Divine Comedy until now ... Tempted to review and promote to active listening ...

Jiggery Pokery is great pop ... esp if you are familiar with "The Ball of the Century".

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TimPC | 8 August 2009 - 11:45am

as grand as I think The Divine Comedy are

I detest National Express with a passion.

I can see how they'd grate for some people, but they've done some marvellous stuff, especially A Short Album About Love.

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inky miss | 8 August 2009 - 3:42pm

The prosecution

would like the jury to examine "Something for the Weekend", m'lud.

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Sheev | 8 August 2009 - 3:49pm

Acknowledged,

take him down.

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James Blast | 8 August 2009 - 4:10pm

Hung, drawn and quartered....

Just for that terribly mannered "Hello, laydees..." intro...

NB - DLM is a fantastic record but sentence has been passed

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Six Dog | 8 August 2009 - 7:51pm

Definitely a fan

though can appreciate how it can appear a bit twee, for want of a better word. Seen DC once live and thoroughly enjoyed it all, and felt a special conncetion with Mr Hannon when I was hit in the chest by his pint of beer, it was a MOD ish target tshirt, so good shot!

Saw DLM @ Latitude, great fun well crafted songs, and a cricket lovers delight.

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Mark P | 8 August 2009 - 4:39pm

But I am

a cricket lover - and it fails to bowl me over. Typifying all that is mundane and gratuitous and ingratiating and noisome about Neil H's work

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Sheev | 8 August 2009 - 7:04pm

Divine Comedy

A cross between Scott Walker and ELO what is there not to love ?

style and substance I think

As for DLM its one of the best albums this year

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MrRadio | 8 August 2009 - 7:14pm

A passive aggressive writes...

Oh for f**k's sake - it's only pop music.
I adore Radiohead, Belle & Sebastian, Divine Comedy, Pulp. It was my 20s, my vintage. They stand up with loads of other great music. But maybe it's because I'm a fey, pretentious, middle class, Southern softie... All bands are contrived. What's wrong with pretending? They've all said something to me about my life. They don't speak to some of you? Fine. Why get so uptight about it? Who breaks a butterfly on a wheel? Hardly the axis of evil are they?

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Adman | 8 August 2009 - 8:30pm

I'm afraid they are

but being a Weegie, I'm prepared to give B&S a bit of leeway, they aren't Travis

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James Blast | 8 August 2009 - 9:29pm

Huh?

Why the hatred? There is a sea of turgid lookee-likee bilge out there; it spills out of my radio, washes around my tv screen like a demented launderette washing machine, and seeps out of the walls of shops everywhere I go. Hurrah for literate, original, playful music. Boo to stage school R'n'B. Regeneration and Fin de Siecle are fine albums, and I have happy memories of my staff singing along to the backing singers on National Express using the bar code scanners as microphones behind the tills at Oddbins.

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Reginald Mole-H... | 8 August 2009 - 9:26pm
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