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Stagger Lee, Stack O Lee, Stack-A-Lee, etc. etc.

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I'm currently at work putting together a radio show for my university's station, about the history of the song Stagger Lee. So far I have the story behind the historical event which reputedly inspired the song (1895, 'Stagger' Lee Shelton shot Billy Lyons over the loss of his Stetson hat), some interviews with local singers and music academics and a few of the most famous recordings.

I am now appealling to you, Word Massive, for every different version of the song recorded. So far I have:

Mississippi John Hurt
Grateful Dead
Dr John
The Clash
Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds
Bob Dylan
The Black Keys
Woody Guthrie
James Brown

What have I missed? I need more of the old American south recordings mostly - the earlier and scratchier sounding the better.

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Here are some

Archibald (New Orleans R&B, 1950)
Mississippi John Hurt (Okeh, 1928)
Frank Hutchison (on the Anthology Of American Folk Music)

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el hombre malo | 28 March 2010 - 4:39pm

Martin Simpson

the rather grumpy but none the less wonderful folk icon recorded a version on his latest CD.

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simontyler | 28 March 2010 - 4:38pm

Lloyd Price

In 1958

Greil Marcus' book "Mystery Train" has several pages devoted to the legend of Stagger Lee and Billy, under the chapter on Sly & the Family Stone, and mentions other songs which can be traced back to Stagger Lee, like the Stones' Midnight Rambler.

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Woodge | 28 March 2010 - 4:41pm

I remember an interview...

....with Paul Jones interviewing Ralph McTell. Ralph was going on about always wanting a National guitar but not buying one because they were too expensive. He has since indulged and has recorded the song. National Treasure could be the name of the album.

Anyway, have you looked at this?

http://www.staggerlee.com/pgs/the-list.php

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bigsteviecook | 28 March 2010 - 5:02pm

You might want to check out

You might want to check out Charles Shaar Murray's book, Crosstown Traffic, as he talks about the legend there. It's a long time since I read it, but as I recall he brings Stagger Lee into his discussion about the formulation of the iconic bad man in music, and how any black artist that goes down that root will inevitably end up quoting in some way from the legend.

It was the first time I'd ever heard of the tale, and I've often thought about doing some research myself - so good on you!

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Crosstown-Traffic-Charles-Shaar-Murray/dp/057122...

Bill Wyman set himself up as something of a blues aficionado, and did the book Blues Odyssey. I mentioned Stagger Lee in passing to him once and he seemed quite curious that anyone beyond a purist knew about the legend. He might be interesting to talk to if you have the time to get in touch with his office.

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the_saint | 28 March 2010 - 5:37pm

Nick Cave

I remembered that there was a good interview with Nick Cave when his version was released - this looks like it here :

(Caution - contains swearing)

http://www.bad-seed.org/~cave/info/songs/mb_staggerlee.html

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el hombre malo | 28 March 2010 - 5:41pm

Weird moment...

I was just going to recommend an old Mojo article on Stagger Lee when I clicked on that link and found that it was ME who typed it in to the Bad Seed site, back in 1996 when I was a Nick Cave nut and had way more time on my hands!

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Nick White | 28 March 2010 - 7:21pm

Staggolee

by Pacific Gas and Electric. Can be found on Death Proof soundtrack.

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Sven Garlic | 28 March 2010 - 5:46pm

Not old and scratchy at all

Huey Lewis and the News
Wille and the Poor Boys

Probably useless to you as they are virtually identical to the Lloyd Price version

The Death Proof soundtrack has a version "Staggolee" by Pacific Gas and Electric that sounds like a sequel.

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Cookieboy | 28 March 2010 - 5:51pm

A Novel

I read this years back and it's about a Professor of the Blues who looks for a mystery singer and he explains all about the story of Stagger Lee
http://www.aceatkins.com/Books/LeavinTrunkBlues.html

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Sour Crout | 28 March 2010 - 5:58pm

A couple more

Taj Mahal has done a couple of versions and I've got one by Gomez too.

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el toro calvo grande | 28 March 2010 - 6:32pm

Ike & Tina Turner

did a version called "Stagger Lee And Billy", available on the Stateside CD "Soul Of Sue Records New York City" and Dr John did "Stack-A-Lee" on "Dr John's Gumbo".

Both are well worth a listen.

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magneticfields | 28 March 2010 - 6:40pm

The Jukes and others

Southside Johnny & The Asbury Jukes do a storming version of this in their live shows, and it's on their Live At The Paradise Theater, Boston.

There's also a version by Wilson Pickett.

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Indus | 28 March 2010 - 6:53pm

Some time back I read a book called

'Stagger Lee Shot Billy' which told the various versions of the legend as well as placing it a historical perspective.

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stimpy | 28 March 2010 - 7:36pm

ohhhhhhhhhhhh

i can add to this list. you dont know how much that means to me ;-)

the isley brothers- stagger lee.
think there must be some footage from ready steady go of them performing it, or its on the vinyl greatest hits (stateside label).

bet im too late now i've spent 10 mins typing

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fatdan | 28 March 2010 - 7:54pm

ohhhhhhhhhhhh

i can add to this list. you dont know how much that means to me ;-)

the isley brothers- stagger lee.
think there must be some footage from ready steady go of them performing it, or its on the vinyl greatest hits (stateside label).

bet im too late now i've spent 10 mins typing

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fatdan | 28 March 2010 - 7:58pm

What's really interesting...

...(according to AllMusic) is the number of people claiming composer credits, including Jerry Garcia, Lloyd Price, Harold Loman (who he?), Elvis Presley, Champion Jack Dupree, Carl Perkins, Mississippi John Hurt, Scott McKenzie, Bob Dylan, Mac Rebennack, Memphis Slim, Johnny Otis and Leon T Gross, to name but a few.

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mikethep | 28 March 2010 - 8:33pm

would that be

trad arrangement/bob dylan etc tho? Or trad arrange/jimmy page etc? that sort of thing that as long as you add something and no one can claim full ownership you get all the money. (or thats how i understand it).

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fatdan | 28 March 2010 - 8:43pm

Probably...

...though quite a few different people are claiming ownership of Lloyd Price's version alone.

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mikethep | 28 March 2010 - 8:53pm
D.Green | 28 March 2010 - 8:59pm
Seamus | 29 March 2010 - 12:02am

Anthology

When it comes down to this sort of thing you should really check out the Smithsonian Folkways Anthology of American Folk Music as already mentioned above. It's pricey but full of great stuff including Frank Hutchinson's version.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Anthology-American-Music-Edited-Harry/dp/B000001...

The accompanying booklet has great sleeve notes written in Harry Smith's idiosyncratic style. The notes for Stackalee read.

“Theft of stetson hat causes deadly dispute, victim identifies self as family man.
The murder mentioned here probably took place in Memphis in about 1900. Stack Lee seems to have been connected by birth or employment with the Lee family of that city who owned a large line of steamers on the Mississippi”

Graeme Thomson(of this parish)'s excellent "I Shot a Man in Reno: A History of Death by Murder, Suicide, Fire, Flood, Drugs, Disease, and General Misadventure, as Related in Popular Song" also cover the Stack O Lee myth and it's influence.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Shot-Man-Reno-History-Misadventure/dp/0826428576...

You picked up on The Clash's version which I assume is Wrong Em Boyo, originally by Clive Alphonso.

Following article covers some of the same ground as above but is interesting in it's own right.
http://www.splicetoday.com/music/four-versions-of-stagger-lee

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hanuman | 29 March 2010 - 12:50pm
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