Entertainment For Lively Minds
Soylent Green
Posted by woodface on 8 November 2009 - 11:22am.
On another thread (best movies of all time or something similar) I put forward the film 'Soylent Green' for consideration. I do not necessarily think it is the best ever but it is certainly a very commendable piece of work. Anyway, it is on TCM 2 this Friday and I would be most grateful for the Word massive to cast a critical eye over it. It is a dystopian vision of the year 2022 and unlike some future set movies it does ring quite true. It stars Charlton Heston and Edward G Robinson (in his last role). It does not get the plaudits of, say, 'blade runner' but I actually prefer it; see what you think?
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I've always liked it
and think "Children of Men" picked up on some of its dystopian threads (state-sponsored euthanasia) Arguably, it could do with being remade, to just tighten up aspects of the plot.
Chuck Heston's sci-fi period was pretty good, certainly "The Omega Man" pisses over "I am Legend" and "Planet of the Apes"is justifiably a classic.
I like it.....
...but it's a one-trick film, ultimately - once you're aware of the ending, it loses a lot in repeat viewings.
Bit more Silent Running
than Soylent Green meself-but very fond of that era of SF film in general--I'll probably be looking in, as we used to say ...
Seventies sci-fi before Star Wars
Was great on ideas - Logan's Run, SG, Silent Running, Omega Man, Westworld etc. Some of my very favourite films, and in keeping with the dark tones of Hollywood at the time generally. Then Star Wars of course came along and it was about bangs and effects...
you might enjoy this interchange
About Silent Running--
http://www.thespacereview.com/article/1315/1
http://www.thespacereview.com/article/1337/1
I think the reply rather failed to spot Dwayne's slightly tongue-in-cheek tone:
and
Don't forget
Dark Star. You can't got wrong with an existentially angsty bomb, can you?
And yes, once you know the twist of SG, it does lose just a bit of force (don't all of those films do that though?), but I don't mind becasue it's still a great movie. Edward G's death scene is ust sublime.
I've only just read...
... "Make Room! Make Room!" by Harry Harrison the book it's based on and do you know what? I reckon the film is better.
The book doesn't have the Soylent Green plot, it sticks to exploring the situation of an overcrowded planet with finite resources and it just means that, while good, it lacks some oomph to propel the plot.
I got Silent Running from Fopp for £2 by the way...
Fopp
Called into Fopp in Cambridge recently and picked up a pile of JG Ballard novels for £2 each. Even the person who served me was shocked. Get them while you can!
I Am Legend
I was surprised to find myself quite enjoying Will Smith's performance in this. I'm not a fan of many of his films, but I found it quite a moving performance. Not a great film, but not bad. Certainly better than the Vincent Price version - Last Man On Earth. Although that had parts to recommend it, too.
Soylent Green? I don't mind it, but I too prefer The Omega Man and Planet of The Apes for Charlton Heston teeth gritting and mildly right wing cinema.
Saul's final moments
Always wait on Edward G.'s last scene with some trepidation.Love th e footage of "Earth as It used to be" and can really empathise with his character's anger and grief at how it's all been lost.But,here's the thing.As the Pastoral Symphony swells and the gorgeous footage of long-gone wildlife and countryside flits across the wall of the "death chamber",depending on how much drink has been taken,I usually find tears running down my cheeks.Now that's a good movie.
We're still screwing it up...
The whole point is that, in the film, we had screwed up the Earth beyond redemption, despite all the warnings and chances we had given ourselves. Having seen the film, we left the cinema realising that we could still take steps to save the planet by stopping the pollution and reversing the damage already caused. That message still resonates today.
Are we still heading for a 'Soylent Green' world, or are we succeeding in reversing the damage? Some of the most satisfying sci-fi is perhaps that which makes you think, and which eventually comes to pass. We are fiddling while Rome burns!
I saw this in a double bill
at the cinema in late 70's with 'Demon Seed', which I've never seen since but it features Julie Christie having sex with a psycho computer that locks her in the house. I seem to remember having partaken of a 'reefer' and it did me head in. Mind you, so did Sleeping Beauty when I saw that on acid in Leicester Square (Don't ask) Soylent Green is an excellent film tho', as is The Omega Man, even though it does have Charlton 'I'll get me gun " Heston in both
Weird
that both Omega Man and Soylent Green and also Planet of the Apes - should all feature ol' Charlton. At the time - he was a card-carrying liberal which made his later conversion to the political Right - all the more odd.
They fit in thematically - the individual against the collective, freedom against oppression, the unearthing of conspiracies real or imagined, rage finding release in an act of cathartic violence - with other films of the 70s like Easy Rider, One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest and - of course - All the President's Men. They echo the particular paranoia of that age - and after lying somewhat unregarded for a decade or two - have found new resonance by chiming with the bizarrely parallel fears of today
Not really
Heston was essentially a libertarian, so the themes of individual v collective freedom v oppression were perfectly consistent with a man who may have been on the left, but kept those beliefs and shifted rightwards. Still think he as misguided about the NRA, mind.
I was highlighting
the themes of the films rather than than Heston's beliefs - and how those themes reflected the concerns of the time - Watergate/Vietnam/Energy crisis
But it does seem probable that Heston was cast in these movies as he seemed at the time those movies were made to follow in the footsteps of James Stewart or Henry Fonda or Gregory Peck - the quiet but strong man who will not be bowed by authority or coercion.
OK
I can go with that
Soylent Green is *spoiler*
a Fray Bentos meat pie