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Sounds like crazy music

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Sometimes a song comes along that sounds like nothing else you've heard before. It jumps out of the radio at you, makes you stand still in shops and gets right under your skin. If it is good enough the passing years will diminish its power - not because it's effect is waning but because lots of other stuff was released to sound like it- it gave birth to lots of rubbish impersonators that flounder in its wake.
I am 17 watching this TOTP and my fancy has been tickled, my jaw rests on the floor and Dinky Diamond is a spangly wonderment.
What sounded like nothing else to you?


Sparks - This Town Ain't......

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This

And if it did sound like anything I'd heard before I don't know where I heard it.

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clivetemple | 11 November 2011 - 3:59pm

And this ...

... then it all went a bit tits up ...

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clivetemple | 11 November 2011 - 4:11pm

KLF - 3am Eternal

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jimmyshoes01 | 11 November 2011 - 4:05pm

TTABEFTBOU

First single I ever bought because of that TOTP performance.

Still sounds amazing.

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Ahh_Bisto | 11 November 2011 - 4:07pm

And this still sounds like its from 2050

Future Sound of London - Papua new Guinea

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jimmyshoes01 | 11 November 2011 - 4:16pm

After many years...

...I found music could still surprise me, when I saw this on Later. Much delighted giggling, and muttering of "oh boy!" ensued.

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Paul Vincent | 11 November 2011 - 4:55pm

Well

that was extraordinary. I shall investigate further. Thrilling.

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Sheev | 11 November 2011 - 11:43pm

I'd be amazed if you were disappointed, Sheev.

The first Battles album, "Mirrored", is a wonder. Genuinely skewiff, but filled with hooks and beauty. And their drummer - formerly of the wonderful Helmet, fact fans - is monstrously good. My kids ADORE that record, and there aren't many avant-garde sample-rock bands you can say that about.

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Bob | 12 November 2011 - 7:00pm
Cobweb Steve | 12 November 2011 - 8:00pm

Is it?

I was a bit shy of checking it out, since Tyondai left. But it's worth a punt, is it?

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Bob | 13 November 2011 - 11:35am

If you like the first one

I see no reason why you wouldn't like the second. It's got Gary Numan on it! What's not to like.

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Dr Volume | 15 November 2011 - 1:25am

What the Dr said

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Cobweb Steve | 16 November 2011 - 9:17am

Cool.

I shall invest.

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Bob | 16 November 2011 - 10:02am

That drummer..

Doesn't half look like Ritchie B of this parish.

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Lenny Law | 12 November 2011 - 11:22pm

That was great, thanks

You may also find this to your liking.

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clivetemple | 12 November 2011 - 7:04pm

glorious

upped and downloaded. many thanks.

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badartdog | 13 November 2011 - 11:57pm

Wonderful!

I've been a fan of their recorded output for a while, but didn't realise what a great live band they are. Many thanks for posting this!

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Paul Vincent | 14 November 2011 - 11:34am

Kate

First time I heard this I loved it but thought it was from Mars

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Runcible | 11 November 2011 - 4:57pm

The feelings generated in me when I first saw that clip...

were definitely of the physical, earthbound variety. Strewth she was - and is - a fox.

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Patrick Crowther | 11 November 2011 - 11:45pm

To my shame

I was but a nipper in '78 and into 10cc, Genesis, Bowie and Queen. I too, like John Lydon's mother, thought 'it sounds like a bag of cats!'
Later (and a little bit more mature), after Hounds of Love had completely blown me away, I listened to it again and just realised what a conservative little twat I'd been.
Astonishing - and she wrote it overnight - and sang it in a one single recording session: http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/jun04/articles/classictracks.htm

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whitehorsehill | 16 November 2011 - 10:16am

but if that was 33 years ago

what does the massive make of this? More specifically 0:18?


Is that really Kate? In bed with...? With...? Oh my eyes, my eyes!!!!!

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whitehorsehill | 17 November 2011 - 12:11am

"O Superman" invades planet Earth

This is how TOTP dealt with it

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aging hippy | 11 November 2011 - 5:32pm

DEVO SNL

When Devo made their first appearance on Saturday Night Live in 1978, the schoolyard was divided between those who dismissed as weird trash (probably with a few insinuations about the sexuality of those who made, or those who might like) and a small group of few who's just seen the blackboard erased, and the possibilities of rock abruptly expanded (probably with a few insinuations of its 'neatness'. Punk rock had made no impact in the province of New Brunswick, and I can testify I was, to perhaps nobody's surprise, happily located in the smaller group.

Here is a contemporary video: http://youtu.be/jadvt7CbH1o

Clearly it's impact resonates. I mentioned that I was watching the 1978 season on DVD to a music-loving chum, and he immediately piped up, "The one with Devo?"

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SoundMind | 11 November 2011 - 5:46pm

This song

made me sit bolt upright in bed when Peel played it. I'd never heard anything like it before. It still knocks me cold and is proof that Morrissey and The Smiths are very special indeed.

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Leedsboy | 11 November 2011 - 6:39pm

Dinky Diamond

Killed himself because of a noisy neighbour. Tragic.

http://graphikdesigns.free.fr/norman-dinky-diamond.html

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Bob Sacamano | 11 November 2011 - 6:42pm

That's very sad

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Leedsboy | 11 November 2011 - 8:16pm

Big hero

His shocking death was part of the reason for naming him in the post. I loved his style and showmanship. Learning the time-signatures in This Town...was one of the biggest moments in my journey to teach myself drums. Proper, proper drummer. The nature of his death made me more angry than anything else for years.

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niallb | 11 November 2011 - 8:37pm

As I have been playing

the Mains first two albums, Midfield General and my own Moog samples very loud all night, I may be responsible for another similar tale.

Must stop drinking wine, it makes music quieter than it actually is.

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jimmyshoes01 | 11 November 2011 - 10:10pm

Bowie

Ashes to Ashes

I'm 13 years old and a homesick long-forgotten spaceman comes on the radio with sounds he's captured from beyond our solar system.

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Ahh_Bisto | 11 November 2011 - 7:30pm

It's part of the vocabulary now

but the first time I and many others heard A Day In The Life it just sounded insane but wonderful.

It could be argued that Tomorrow Never Knows was as ground breaking, but I didn't hear that until years after Day In The Life.

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Carl Parker | 11 November 2011 - 7:35pm

I'm nodding in agreement to lots of these...

...particularly the late 70s/early 80s chart items. That 1978-80 period was either a great one for UK pop music or just formative to me and a few others around here, I suppose...

This one, though, takes the biscuit as far as I'm concerned. I bought a US vinyl reissue circa 1981/82 I guess, aged 13, having been intrigued by anm encyclopedia entry on the band. So the first track I'd ever hear by the Mahavishnu Orchestra would be 'Birds Of Fire'.

Firstly, those endless, portentous cymbals... then the insistent riff (in 18/8) at ):45... then the incredible, weird melody at 1:05, played by guitar and violin in unison... it was an introduction to a soundworld that took some getting used to but which one knew, even then, was magical!

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Colin H | 11 November 2011 - 7:43pm

Well I remember when I first listened to that.

Birds Of Fire was my introduction to The Mahavishnu Orchestra.

My reaction was, however, the polar opposite to yours.

It's good to have the chance to listen again twenty five years on, re-evaluating with more mature ears and a broader musical palate.

No. Still a load of pretentious old wank.

Sorry, Mr H.

(Posting that whilst I listen to La Villa Strangiato by Rush doesn't put me in a spectacularly strong debating position. But at least they use recognisable scales..)

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Lenny Law | 11 November 2011 - 9:51pm

Oh, that's given me a great idea for a practical joke.

You put that on while DJing at a party, and the gong crash makes everyone go "YAY!" because they think it's going to be "Jungle Boogie". It is not "Jungle Boogie".

Many lolz ensue, and the rofflecops have to be called.

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Bob | 13 November 2011 - 11:38am

This was mine

Definitely a Desert Island Disc:

Has to be in Icelandic, though - I loathe the English version, as it just strips away the mystique of the song.

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renkadima | 11 November 2011 - 8:08pm

I notice so far people are choosing stuff they like.

("And why not?" - Massive) My guess would be the vast majority of crazy new-sounding experimental music is cack.
Here's one given away free with the NME which initially had me baffled but I ultimately came to love:


(Steinski, The Motorcade Sped On)

btw I'm not sure there's any actual music on this anywhere...

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STD | 11 November 2011 - 8:59pm

Just after the Here's Johnny bit at the start...

...the opening chord from A Hard Days Night.

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Seamus | 11 November 2011 - 9:04pm

London minglers...

...a couple of times ago will have heard some Steinski on the "Desert Island" disc I put on the flip of my pop CD. He's astonishing, that man. Great call.

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Bob | 12 November 2011 - 7:03pm

Napalm Death

on John Peel

The masters of brevity metal.

Back in the day when you'd be taping the programme and if Napalm Death came on at the end of the 45 minutes of Side A of your cassette you ran the risk of losing an entire session track on account of having to take the cassette out, turn it round, put it back it in and then press and hold down play and record.

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Ahh_Bisto | 11 November 2011 - 9:31pm

Two Tribes

The follow-up to Relax was keenly awaited by the nation's pop kids. After quite a long time, Two Tribes came out and was totally different to its all-conquering predecessor. I remember hearing it and being confused but thrilled at the same time. Certainly wasn't Relax Part 2 - I needed to hear it again. Seems a bit tame now.

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Austin | 11 November 2011 - 10:07pm

I can recall 'The Fly' by U2...

...had a really radical sound at the time it came out (which, of course, sounds tame now). It was all down to how high in the mix the visceral, trebly guitar riff was. Given the 'sonic mainstream' of the pop world at the time, it was an inspired move - radio people would HAVE to play it but you just knew if it hadn't been U2 it would never have got played on mainstream radio.

As I say, hard to appreciate this now, but I was very struck by it at the time.

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Colin H | 11 November 2011 - 10:12pm

that's true

I was only 10 at the time but fairly pop-aware, and that song just...baffled me. I couldn't understand why it was so popular - not because I didn't like it (I wasn't sure what I thought of it) but it just didn't sound like stuff that was meant to go to number one.

Listening to it now, it still surprises me that it was a hit single. Not really my cup of tea, U2, but it's quite an interesting record.

Didn't it dislodge Bryan Adams' marathon hit-parade domination in the UK?

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sam and janet e... | 12 November 2011 - 12:44am

NEW

I seem to recall the "The Fly" was only available for a week on its release, which pushed fans to buy it.

Although hailed as a classic now, there was a distinct nervousness/scepticism around the whole album prior to its release, and this old marketing trick was dusted off to get the single off to a flyer.

One of the first tracks I heard off it was "Who's gonna ride your wild horses", which didn't reassure on initial hearing, I can assure you.

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emaol | 12 November 2011 - 6:41pm

None more gobsmacking...

...Patti Smith's Birdland

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ainsley009 | 11 November 2011 - 10:31pm

The first time i heard this

it sounded like something from another planet.

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Mac45 | 11 November 2011 - 10:29pm

To paraphrase James Blast

of this parish this sounded like it came from Mars

The Associates "Party Fears Two"

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Dave Amitri | 11 November 2011 - 11:24pm

Ar... Yesss..

That was a thing. And a joy to see again. RIP Billy.

Wasn't the lass on keyboards Martha from them and The Muffins?

And what bass was that that Helmet Boy was miming with?

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Lenny Law | 12 November 2011 - 12:43am

Yes Lenny

Martha Ladly, look up the "Club Country" TOTP video where she wears a rather fetching leotard. Not sure about the bass but I love Billy's Frank Spencer chic look. The soaring vocal bit at around 3:10 is possibly the most thrilling sound in pop, in fact..........

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Dave Amitri | 12 November 2011 - 12:57am

She was A Martha, but not THE Martha

The main/ongoing Martha (Johnson) did the singing, the lovely Ladly was on keyboards.

Anyway, the reason I posted this wasn't to point that out, it was to make this gratuitous posting of the luscious Ladly in a swimsuit, exiting the pool with the water slowly bouncing off her gorgeous heaving...

erm, sorry, got carried away there. Anyway, here goes:

(Great song too- Light Years)

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Bob Sacamano | 12 November 2011 - 7:38pm

it sounded like the future

it sounded like Marvin. It was synthetic and sinuous. A torch song. A pop song. Probably the last time I cared deeply for any one particular act. Twenty. Twenty. Twenty years ago.

"Unfinished Sympathy". Massive Attack.

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Sheev | 12 November 2011 - 12:07am

Throw away track

Or so Mushroom thought. Luckily there were two others to out vote him and put it on the album.

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clivetemple | 13 November 2011 - 3:40pm

The influence of Bill Oddie is unmistakable

Never liked The White Stripes. Overrated, slapdash too cool for school nonsense.

However, this left my gob well and truly smacked

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simonperrins | 12 November 2011 - 12:11am

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Austin | 12 November 2011 - 12:31am
russellh | 12 November 2011 - 12:40am

He looks about 15!

He says "geezer" and "birds"! He can't even rap in time..
Waitasecond. This is great!


(The Streets, Let's Push Things Forward)

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STD | 12 November 2011 - 12:49am

'He can't even rap in time'

I'm a fat 45 year old, hip-hop tourist git, and even I know you've missed the point!

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Zanti Misfit | 12 November 2011 - 1:33am

This.

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Zanti Misfit | 12 November 2011 - 1:25am

CHOOON!

Genuinely exciting musical movement Jungle/D&B. I didn't quite get it at first, the beats seemed insanely fast..and then I realised you need to follow the what the bass is doing, usually at half the tempo of the beat.

I liked the stripped back stuff that Gerald, 4 Hero, Omni Trio etc were doing:

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Dr Volume | 12 November 2011 - 4:41am

It's meant to sound like that.

I was simultaneously intrigued, entranced and baffled by this when I first heard it. Why would you create a beautiful, shimmering piece of music and then layer enormous sheets of noise over it, and then deliberately bend the pitch so it sounded like the record was warped, and send the drums and bass parts so far to the outer limits of the soundspace they cab barely be heard? I'm f*cked if I know. This is the kind of record you can listen to a hundred times and still never quite get to the bottom of. I love it for that. Still clears a room if you play it today! Hurrah!

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Dr Volume | 12 November 2011 - 4:54am

I give you Mr Richard David James.


(Aphex Twin - Omgyjya Switch 7)

The first time I heard this, I had to listen to it again. And again. And again. And again. Not particularly because I enjoyed it - that came later - but because it was fascinating and a bit scary.

Same goes for this:


(Slayer - Jesus Saves)

It's the sudden switch at 1:10ish from quite mid-tempo, grooving stuff to this kind of blurted speed-rush mess, almost tripping over itself, but so clearly done entirely deliberately and with terrifying discipline and control.

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Bob | 12 November 2011 - 7:24pm

The fittest people in the World. Iron Man triathletes

And the drummers in thrash metal bands.

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Lenny Law | 12 November 2011 - 11:28pm

And yet...

...Vinnie Paul, of Pantera, is (or at least was, in Pantera's pomp) a big ol' salad dodger. Doesn't stop him. (Clarkson voice) Watch THIS....

I can only assume, since he presumably does that ^ for hours a day, that he must have some kind of intravenous assembly that allows him to mainline sausages.

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Bob | 12 November 2011 - 11:38pm

Good point.

I see your Vinnie Paul and I raise you on the Fat Drummer stakes..

Bobby Rondinelli. With whom I shared a beer on a couple of occasions. A man who knows how to play drums. And eat pies. Evidence of both below.

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Lenny Law | 13 November 2011 - 2:08am

Jackie Liebezeit

Genius..

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ablewalker | 15 November 2011 - 2:03am

I want this thread

For the next covermount CD!

I've been introduced to so much good stuff on here, I've just got to post something so I can find my way back here at my leisure to follow it all up.

So here's one from me. Like all of them, it sounds crazy, but at the same time it's all under control.

and there's 74 more mind-buggering minutes of Messiaen's Turangalila Symphony where that came from.

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thecheshirecat | 13 November 2011 - 12:36am

Turangalia...

...I've seen it performed live. Otherworldly and weird, yet in a clearly very old way (like hearing BBC Radiophonic music from a '60s Dr Who)...

Still, it probably sounds like child's play compared to what Alexander Scriabin would have got to had he lived to finish his 'Mysterium in the early 1900s. It was a search for the lost chord - in the Himalayas, with bells to be hung from clouds according to some sources.

Here's what wikipedia has to say on the matter:

Mysterium is an unfinished musical work by composer Alexander Scriabin. He started working on the composition in 1903, but it was incomplete at the time of his death in 1915.

Scriabin planned that the work would be synesthetic, exploiting the senses of smell and touch as well as hearing. He wrote that

"There will not be a single spectator. All will be participants. The work requires special people, special artists and a completely new culture. The cast of performers includes an orchestra, a large mixed choir, an instrument with visual effects, dancers, a procession, incense, and rhythmic textural articulation. The cathedral in which it will take place will not be of one single type of stone but will continually change with the atmosphere and motion of the Mysterium. This will be done with the aid of mists and lights, which will modify the architectural contours."

Scriabin intended that the performance of this work, to be given in the foothills of the Himalayas in India, would last seven days and would be followed by the end of the world, with the human race replaced by "nobler beings".

At the time of his death, Scriabin left 72 pages of sketches for a prelude to the Mysterium entitled Prefatory Action. These sketches have been completed by Alexander Nemtin to form a three-hour-long work, a task that took him 28 years, and recorded.

One of the key components of later Scriabin compositions is related to his preliminary thinking for the "Mysterium". The so-called "Mystic chord", C F# Bb E A D, starts gradually to serve as a source of harmonic and melodic material in some of Scriabin's works from the "Poem of Ecstasy" onwards. The notes of the chord are rarely used in the pure form just cited, all spaced in fourths, and are usually rearranged, doubled, and inverted in various ways when in actual use in a composition, so that the original chord spaced in fourths is scarcely recognizable, even when its notes are the basis of a passage. This use of the chord reached its climax in Prometheus: The Poem of Fire, while The Poem of Ecstasy which preceded it, although starting to suggest the chord, does not in fact use the complete chord with any frequency. Some hints of the chord start to appear even considerably earlier, however - for instance, in the Sonata no. 4 in F# major, op. 30.

This chord was to provide the tonal framework for "Mysterium" rather than conventional tonal triads. The "Mysterium Chord" is almost a whole-tone scale but with one constituent pitch-class raised a semitone, turning the Fortean aggregate (02468T) into (013579). This is the Prometheus scale, and its notes are the exact constituents of the Mystic chord. (However, for the Mysterium, Scriabin had expanded this chord up to stacked chords containing all twelve tones of the tempered scale.) Later on in the 20th century the (original) scale/harmony influenced composers such as Francis Poulenc, Olivier Messiaen and Toru Takemitsu.

Here's a snatch of Nemtin's repair job on the 'Prefatory Action':

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Colin H | 13 November 2011 - 1:27am

Thanks Colin

That's quite an introduction. Can certainly trace back to that from Messiaen.

I too caught Turangalila live about 10 years ago. I pounced on arrival of the mailing so got the plum seats in the middle of the front of the circle at Bridgewater Hall. I won't attempt to describe how good it was.

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thecheshirecat | 13 November 2011 - 9:53am

Please Please Me

made me realise something earthshaking was happening.
I'm still staggered that something as bizarre as 'Heartbreak Hotel' was released in the mid-50s.
'Virginia Plain' and the look of the band on TOTP blew my mind.
Hearing 'Today your love..' by The Ramones on a Sunday afternoon was equivalent to all of the above and exploded like an atom bomb onto my consciousness..

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ianess | 13 November 2011 - 3:35am

Sophisticated naivety (?)

Sounds like crazy music.
Sufjan Stevens - The Man Of Metropolis Steals Our Hearts

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aging hippy | 13 November 2011 - 2:10pm

The Band

I remember as a young teenager glued to Radio Luxembourg hearing The Weight by The Band for the first time and thinking "that doesn't sound like anything I'd heard before"

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Vince Black | 13 November 2011 - 5:07pm

Sunday night in 1984

Anne Nightingale played 'Wood Beez'. There have only been a handful of instances where I have had to buy a record immediately on hearing it (This Town.... was one). This was another:

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Nick Duvet | 13 November 2011 - 10:52pm

Unique then..Unique Now.

I only heard this a few years ago but it was a revelation..Won't see another Alex Harvey ever I'm afraid.

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ablewalker | 14 November 2011 - 5:25pm

Crazy but not in a good way.

If ever there was a whole record that sounded like crazy music (but not necessarily in a good way) for me it would be Their Satanic Majesties Request by The Rolling Stones.

I bought it, the day it came out, from Musicraft in Hounslow High Street. I rushed home, put it on my parent's radiogram and, whilst perusing the 3D gatefold sleeve, sat back to enjoy it. Playing the track on the end of side one, 'Sing This All Together (See What Happens)' after about 6 minutes it went into a repeating musical pattern which, after a while, seemed to be changing but incredibly subtly. It didn't seem that odd, since 'Goin Home' on Aftermath clocked in at about 12 minutes.

After listening in this ernest to this for about ten minutes, I got up and found the needle was stuck.

For a record that sounded like crazy music but in a good way, I suggest the Velvet Underground album 'White Light White Heat' and particularly the track 'Sister Ray' which in it's day sounded more like it was recorded at some point in the distant future. It came out in January 1968 when almost everyone else was still wearing beads and kaftans and singing about flowers.

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Derek Ridgers | 14 November 2011 - 5:28pm

He is from Saturn you know?

And this is from 1956!

Sun Ra of course. This piece out of the Space is the Place film is cool:

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BigJimBob | 14 November 2011 - 6:35pm

Venus in Furs

One exquisitely boring afternoon in the mid '80s I was listening to 'My Top 10' on Radio 1 where Andy Peebles' guest was David Bowie. One of Bowie's picks was The Velvet Underground's Venus in Furs. After 30 seconds or so I thought What IS This NOISE? and turned the radio off. Meanwhile, my brain was evidently still processing those 30 seconds and shortly thereafter thought Wait a Minute! and turned the radio back on - by the end of the track I was hooked.

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misteraitch | 16 November 2011 - 9:25pm

Yep

Trying so hard to think of more recent examples one forgets the head staggers caused by the now familiar way back when first encountered.
A simple one: Cars by Gary Numan. It's so much part of the furniture now I wouldn't be surprised to find a version of it on one of those easy listening panpipe covers albums, but back then I recall running around the room in confusion because of the sustained note on the weird keyboard machine. In fact one of the strange joys of that 77-83ish period was hearing completely new plinks, squelches and nurrrs on every other top 20 record...

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STD | 16 November 2011 - 10:58pm

Firestarter

I remember being quite impressed by how this sounded like nothing else I had heard before. Apart from the "hey!" bits, of course.

Possibly the last genuinely exciting No 1 record?

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Austin | 17 November 2011 - 1:51am
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