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Somebody Out There Doesn't Like Bargepole

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Every one of his posts has been severely negged - and there are many more minus points than there are replies to his posts. Are we maybe being a tad juvenile here?
Maybe Bargepole is a Word staffer, having a bit of a wind up - doing a good job too, by the looks of it.

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are you gay for him

and love the cock?

Okay, that was a wind up but I think Mr. Pole is quite vocal, can stand up for himself and although he insists on using the first person, it's tolerated because he is interesting. I love the ebb and foul mouthed dialogue flow of Kevin Smith fillums, will you come to my aid wayfarer?

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James Blast | 27 September 2009 - 11:13pm

Erm,

Not sure I've seen any.

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wayfarer | 27 September 2009 - 11:25pm

poor old Bargepole

He's not even supposed to be here, you know.

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illuminatus | 27 September 2009 - 11:34pm

Somebody

does seem to be unfairly on his case. Distinctly uncool.

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RobertC | 28 September 2009 - 8:07am

James..

..what makes you and Wayfarer think that Bargepole is male?

I think she's fascinating.

I'll leave it to someone else to point out the difference between first and third person.

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Lenny Law | 27 September 2009 - 11:20pm

I Dunno Why I Assumed

Bargepole is male. Hmmm...

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wayfarer | 27 September 2009 - 11:24pm

Could be hermaphrodite

Like an earthworm. Have you considered that?

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Martin | 27 September 2009 - 11:34pm

In that event

maybe Bargepole could consider running for South Africa

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illuminatus | 27 September 2009 - 11:36pm

Bargepole is an Earthworm?

in a series of childrens book by David Mackee?

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simontyler | 28 September 2009 - 1:10pm

Martin cannot possibly comment ...

...on Bargepole's taxonomic status, or one David Mackee, but Martin can confirm that earthworms do excellent charity work for the soil.

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Martin | 28 September 2009 - 2:26pm

Occasional slip

There have been occasional slips in Bargepole's phrasing which lead to the conclusion that the "Bargepole online character" is male.

We will probably never know the truth about who is behind the persona, which some find stilted, and tiring to read.

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el hombre malo | 28 September 2009 - 9:09am

Or, more definitively

that he has professed a love for Early Genesis, Fish era Marillion and Jon Anderson's solo albums.

And the fact that he regularly posts on The Word blog.

That dude's a dude.

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simonperrins | 28 September 2009 - 9:19am

A teenage girl who works in the coffee shop I go to in Oxford...

told me she likes Yes and Steely Dan a couple of days ago. I was shocked, and then pleased.

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Patrick Crowther | 28 September 2009 - 9:25am

I have

quite literally fallen off my chair

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Sheev | 28 September 2009 - 9:59am

Is she fit?

Is she legal?

These are the questions that matter right now.

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badger_king | 28 September 2009 - 11:30am

Is she really

a girl?

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Molesworth | 28 September 2009 - 11:39am

The answer to those questions is yes, yes, yes...

I gave her my spare copy of The Nightfly today and she was very pleased. I think the fact that she likes Steely Dan offers enormous hope for the future of the planet.

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Patrick Crowther | 28 September 2009 - 12:06pm

I'll get my coat

To get on the train to Oxford. It's less than an hour away!!

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badger_king | 28 September 2009 - 12:53pm

Jazz & conversation

from the foot of Mount Belzoni.

You're in...

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Molesworth | 28 September 2009 - 1:47pm

Oh Patrick, as if you had a 'spare' copy of 'The Nightfly'

and didn't just leg it to the nearest HMV when she expressed an interest!

P.S. Does she have a friend who might enjoy my 'Countdown To Ecstasy'? :-)

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Steven C | 28 September 2009 - 9:57pm

is it at all possible

that she might've been trying to sell an extra coffee and muffin? feigning interest for sales?

just a thought.

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inky miss | 28 September 2009 - 9:53pm

My Wife..

May be the only woman to have bought a Jethro Tull album in history (before we met) and keeps Marillion, Genesis, Maiden in the collection along with the steadying sounds of Dolly Parton and Whitney Houston!

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Mondo | 29 September 2009 - 11:50am

No way...

she couldn't give a stuff about selling extra coffee. She doesn't need to try to get me to drink more espresso as I practically live on the stuff as it is. I firmly believe her interest in the Dan is genuine as it was her that brought the subject of them up in the first place.

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Patrick Crowther | 29 September 2009 - 7:15pm

I believe you

I just thought it was a possibility. Perhaps all those years in retail made me a tad cynical.

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inky miss | 29 September 2009 - 8:49pm

any idea

About her love of early King Crimson, or Stackridge's "Friendliness" album.

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badger_king | 30 September 2009 - 12:57pm

the Dan - fair enough

but Yes?

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thecolonel | 28 September 2009 - 8:42pm

good point

Yes and the Dan - in the same sentence...dearie me

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Sheev | 28 September 2009 - 9:47pm

I just have visions of the transaction.


I couldn't find any reference to Donald Fagen, though.

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Lenny Law | 28 September 2009 - 10:22pm

Surely it has to be a male

no female would be so boring as to continually refer to themselves in the third person - of course he is trying to be ironic or to wind people up, maybe he is even trying to be funny - problem is it just fails on all levels. Well, actually sorry, it does seem to be winding people up or there wouldn`t be a thread like this and people wouldn`t keep pressing those stupid buttons (now THEY wind me up...) to minus him.

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Retro Man | 28 September 2009 - 1:57pm

ok i'll do it

First person: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-person_narrative

Third person: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third-person_narrative#Third-person_narrati...

Bargepole goes for third person, but in a Craig David style. I like it personally. It's an enjoyable conceit.

I'm new to these boards myself, but bargepole seems fun and interesting. The lots of negs thing is what will happen to fun and interesting (i.e. controversial) posters if you let people give comments negative ratings.

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goosefat101 | 28 September 2009 - 5:55pm

Well, agreed

I really can't be arsed with po-faced grammar lessons. I always enjoy his communications, like most, and although I may not share taste, I hope he's getting his jollies whatever and wherever. I am seriously getting pised off with the negatives here, and am thinking of bowing out gracefully. It's increasingly not the site I joined anymore. The vulgarity level is another thing entirely. I'll go down the local boozer if want genital references etc. Oh how things can change !

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RobertC | 28 September 2009 - 6:30pm

Me too

In fact I'm off for a pint down The Auld Vadge in a minute or so.

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Albert Edward | 28 September 2009 - 6:36pm

You've managed to convince me.

I'm outta here. I didn't realise I was in the wrong place. Thanks for all the info and fun , everyone else, but this site aint where I want to be anymore. Vadge ? Teenage mechanics.....

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RobertC | 28 September 2009 - 6:48pm

Cheerio Jams

thanks for playing.

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Captain Underpants | 28 September 2009 - 6:50pm

Byeee!

( one, two, three, four ).....

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RobertC | 28 September 2009 - 7:03pm

aw, don't go Jams

- have a walk 'round the block, play some Hariprasad Chaurasia (Moody Blues - if you must - even - gulp - TB Sheets) and re-join us.

You know you want to


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Sheev | 28 September 2009 - 7:12pm

Indigo

Lifebelt ? Hang on, wrong name. C/W funk thing... I can't escape can I ? Is Mr H No.2 ? Who are you really ? Where are my shoes for the seventeenth time! I do not want a pineapple !

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RobertC | 28 September 2009 - 8:16pm

Seconded...

Forum fatigue... Very common.
Maybe just have a rest from it for a bit?
Been there meself...

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Adman | 28 September 2009 - 8:10pm

didn't mean to be po-faced

and I certainly am not in a position to give grammer lessons. I like it when I am corrected myself and also when people explain long words to me cos it increases my knowledge.

I think its healthy to go down the pub, but I would suggest just ignoring anything you don't like, and continuing to enjoy what you did. Inevitably there will be a few people that will annoy you on a board from time to time, but I think this site has a very low level of really horrible stuff.

Mind you I'm pretty new here so maybe I'm speaking too soon.

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goosefat101 | 28 September 2009 - 7:09pm

( Po-Faced wasn't aimed at you,

sorry about that).

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RobertC | 28 September 2009 - 7:57pm

no problem

:-)

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goosefat101 | 28 September 2009 - 8:27pm

Do we have to be all grown-up now?

Or am I allowed to say that bargpole smells of wee?

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Lenny Law | 28 September 2009 - 10:26pm

Ha! So you've not

left us... :-)

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Black Type | 28 September 2009 - 11:50pm

Martin announces that Bargepole backwards spells ...

...Elopegrab.

That is all.

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Martin | 27 September 2009 - 11:24pm

I thought about this blog on bargepole

but decided I wouldn't touch it

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Junior Wells | 28 September 2009 - 4:50am

Bargepole amuses one

In a similar way to Macca's claim that She Loves You was ground-breaking and astonishing because no-one had written a lyric that spoke of love from the perspective of a third person before. I remain unconvinced that George Martin's jaw dropped with incredulity at such audacity. He probably smiled and nodded.

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Austin | 28 September 2009 - 5:28am

Chaosandmorphine

are of the view that if the punt propelling tool wishes to continue to refer to itself in the third person, then we reserve the right to continue to object to it by whatever means available. Childish? Yes. But no more than referring to yourself in the third person.
To be fair, I would say that the lack of replies to it's posts are more to do with the content of said posts. Some of it's posts get more replies than others, which is the same for us all.
Besides, it's made it's lack of concern clear, here. http://www.wordmagazine.co.uk/content/the-third-person-a-cautionary-tale

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ChaosandMorphine | 28 September 2009 - 10:09am

Occam concurs

Writing about yourself in the 3rd person is somewhat grating and self-indulgent. The negs probably reflect this.

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Occam | 28 September 2009 - 11:26am

badger_king offers view

That writing in the 3rd person is vaguely amusing in a "Bill Bailey would like the eggs of numbing inevitability" way.

Anyone who doesn't get that quote needs to reassess their situation and watch all of the man's live shows. Amazing.

And no "Accidental" negging. Yes?

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badger_king | 28 September 2009 - 11:33am

You are now wondering, aren't you...

... if perhaps the the use of the second person present tense is less or more annoying?

Yes you are...

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ganglesprocket | 28 September 2009 - 12:26pm

One feels

an element of sympathy when one reads the constant carping about dear old Bargepole. He's a decent old cove, y'know.

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Mark JF | 28 September 2009 - 1:16pm

It's a bit Colin Hunt

and more attention-seeking than a four-year-old in a tutu, but it doesn't do much harm. I just wouldn't want to sit next to him on a long bus journey.

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Captain Underpants | 28 September 2009 - 2:41pm

*applauds*

A rare laugh-out-loud, thank you Captain!

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el hombre malo | 28 September 2009 - 2:49pm

We quite enjoy bargepole's nonsense

..and would quite happily take him on a bus journey, firmly leashed of course.

I (no - we; see how hard it is to keep it going?) think he may be another Facebook casualty who now addresses the entire world as if he was updating his status. Perhaps he also says 'lol' instead of actually laughing?

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Uncle Monty | 28 September 2009 - 2:47pm

Maybe Bargepole is a

premiership footballer. As well as speaking about themselves in third person, they alsways manage to place absolutely everything into the perfect tense.

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illuminatus | 28 September 2009 - 2:50pm

bargepole thanks

you all for your concern, but the site really doesn't need comments like the second one of this thread, which reflects a marked decline in the standard of the site lately, esspecially in terms of bad language and lack of tolerance for other peoples opinions and points of view.
also,are there really no topics better than this to discuss. bargepole thinks we should be told.
finally Bargepole has zero interest in people who take the easy option of an anonymous neg vote rather than taking a minute to explain their views.

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bargepole | 28 September 2009 - 7:15pm

Well, there's certainly no room for abuse on this site...

..unless it's me venting about Morrissey. Having said that, posting purely in order to enrage people is not a good idea.

Let's play nice, shall we?

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David Hepworth | 28 September 2009 - 8:47pm

I would like to apologize for being

snippy about your handle in the past (when you first joined in fact) - none of my damn business.

Your posts, like everyone else's, are sometimes of interest to me, sometimes not.
No big deal.

I wish you well Mr.Pole.

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Adman | 28 September 2009 - 8:49pm

no apology is necessary

everyone is obviously entitled to their own views on the interest or otherwise of Bargepole's opinions. Certainly none were posted with the intention of causing ill feeling,although it is a little surprising that a thread as innocuous as, for example, 'memories' should receive negative votes! And Bargepole does think it is rather beyond the pale to start a thread for the sole intention of criticising another user of the site!

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bargepole | 28 September 2009 - 9:28pm

on the last point

- in particular - Bargepole is absolutely both spot and on

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Sheev | 28 September 2009 - 9:31pm

Can`t you see that it is not a lack of tolerance

for other`s views, it`s just the fact that you keep persisting on using this third person nonsense! Just tell me why, simple question, what`s the point?

This was a nice friendly forum now you`ve got people having a go at you, there`s lots of nasty comments flying around, people who persist in using these stupid arrows are just going to "neg" (where the hell did that word come from?) you every time you even try to submit a reasonable blog thread.

Why not re-register under a new user name and contribute as a rational adult and I think you'll find people do have a lot of tolerance for another`s opinions.

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Retro Man | 29 September 2009 - 3:13pm

Hear ! Hear !

I don't have a problem with the content of Bargepole's posts, it's the clunky "look at Bargepole" way he says it that grates. (I know that moderating style and content isn't up to me, but I'm a member of the community expressing a view)

I don't think I am alone in this, and I hope that Bargepole isn't too upset by this view.

I don't think that this thread was started to criticise Bargepole - maybe the OP can clarify - but rather as a place to discuss the behaviour.

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el hombre malo | 29 September 2009 - 4:23pm

bargepole hears what you say

but does not think other users should dictate the way he posts, nor will he allow them to do so.
as Neil Young once replied when asked why he sang in the way he does, 'that's my style man'.
and surely there are more interesting things to discuss.

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bargepole | 29 September 2009 - 6:47pm

yes there are

and there are more important things to take a principled stand on, too.

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Captain Underpants | 29 September 2009 - 6:54pm

Hear Hear Again !

Rave on, Bargepole.(The Principal ?... it's a popular culture mag site..for gawd's sake).

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RobertC | 29 September 2009 - 8:24pm

(it's the other one, Jams)

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Captain Underpants | 29 September 2009 - 8:24pm

Felicitations.

Gotcha.

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RobertC | 29 September 2009 - 8:49pm

Cheap grammar shots

they're all I've got (smiley face thing)

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Captain Underpants | 29 September 2009 - 8:56pm

"dictate" ?

I think that is rather strong - I expressed my opinion, and I think I did so politely.

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el hombre malo | 29 September 2009 - 9:07pm

Not to Criticise,

more an observation of others' behaviour in hitting all his posts with negative marks but no comments to back them up. Personally, I enjoy Bargepole's posts.
By the way, this is in reply to "Hear! Hear!" several posts up - I don't know how it fetched up here.

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wayfarer | 4 October 2009 - 6:39pm

New Layout

The replies are nested by time, and if you follow the arrows, you'll see that this sits at the same level of indentation as the other replies to that post.

I think the negative marks are an indicator of the childishness that is enabled by the arrows, as well as being some people's way of putting their point to Bargepole without being wordy about it.

Because we've all had our say on this now, I think.

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el hombre malo | 4 October 2009 - 6:48pm

Thank You,

Mr Malo, I was trying to move the post and failing miserably. You are a fount of wisdom, indeed.

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wayfarer | 4 October 2009 - 11:17pm

You're welcome

I see that I am being negged now - can anyone enlighten me why the post here was negged, please ?

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el hombre malo | 5 October 2009 - 7:02am

Because

some people are simple. I use the up one most. And only if I genuinely disagree with a main post, or am saddened by youtube content do I neg. But that is very rare. I tried to put you to 0 above.

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badger_king | 5 October 2009 - 11:01am

thanks

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el hombre malo | 5 October 2009 - 11:50am

"it is not a lack of tolerance"

"It`s just the fact that you keep persisting on using this third person nonsense".

Let's get this straight; it isn't intolerance, it's just that the third person posts are something you find it hard to tolerate.

You're having a laugh.

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Vulpes Vulpes | 4 October 2009 - 9:21am

Read the post...

It seemed Bargepole was concerned about a lack of tolerance for his opinions, my point was that it was not his opinions that might be rubbing people up the wrong way but his constant third person references.

And yes, I am having a laugh.

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Retro Man | 4 October 2009 - 1:33pm

Hmmmm.

So his opinions will be tolerated, but only if he desists from 'using this third person nonsense' and makes sure to 'contribute as a rational adult' and stops 'rubbing people up the wrong way buy his constant third person references'.

Good of you.

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Vulpes Vulpes | 4 October 2009 - 5:02pm

Are you his minder?

As many people have indicated through a number of posts and responses, the 'third person' affectation does grate after the initial novelty has faded. I'm sure no-one has anything against Bargepole as an individual (probably because we don't actually know each other in the real world), and his posts are often interesting and stimulating...but, but, the persona does affect how people relate to his contributions. If s/he interacted with people on a day-to-day basis in this way, a la Colin Hunt, I'm sure his family/friends/work colleagues/acquaintances would express their disapproval/intolerance by challenging Bargepole more robustly than has been witnessed here, or by avoiding him/her.

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Black Type | 4 October 2009 - 6:06pm

So, farewell then, pomposity.

Thy name is third person critic, deceased.
Judger of all that is affectation.
Molehill magnifier of mountainous proportion.
Arbiter of grown-upness. Aged 17½.

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Vulpes Vulpes | 5 October 2009 - 11:32am

If you care to read what I actually said

I made no criticism of Bargepole as an individual, or of the content of his posts. It obviously hasn't escaped your notice that his writing style - are you saying that it isn't an affectation? - is off-putting for many people; my point was merely to indicate that such a form of expression, used persistently, would probably receive short shrift in any other context.

So I haven't judged, just made an observation. Haven't magnified a molehill, just contributed said observation within an ongoing debate, which I believe is my prerogative as much as yours. Haven't referred to anything connected with age.

Sorry if you find my writing style 'pompous'; I would prefer to think it's using the language in an adult and fairly erudite way. I'll try and dumb it down next time so you're more comfortable with it.

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Black Type | 5 October 2009 - 1:24pm

E.J. Thribb.

Age 17½.

Pompous?

Not aimed at your 'writing style', but at the way another's style has been belittled.

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Vulpes Vulpes | 5 October 2009 - 6:40pm

And I promised myself

I wasn`t going to get wound up by Bargepole.

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Retro Man | 5 October 2009 - 3:18am

Sheev

has never referred to himself in the third person. Until now.

Sheev's original appelation was an in-joke that only he got - as the only other people who would have understood it were either dead or living in remote villages in the Himalayas and unlikely - sad to report - to be active Word bloggers.

Sheev actively - as is the liberal's curse - would heartily defend the right of anyone to call themselves what they will and refer to themselves as they wish.

More importantly - to say what they want - even if it is arrant nonsense - like the notion that Queen are any good.

As long as - as Mr Hepworth observes - everyone's plays nice. Ish.

Sheev wishes all fellow Wordistas - top of the evening

oṃ śāntiḥ

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Sheev | 28 September 2009 - 9:12pm

bargepole

thanks you for those comments and echoes the esteemed Mr Hepworth's words.

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bargepole | 28 September 2009 - 9:31pm

The last few posts have had

more than a hint of the House of Lords. This is something I find faintly amusing for some reason I cannot put my finger on for the moment

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illuminatus | 28 September 2009 - 9:37pm

Order! Order!

The Rt Hon Member for Stoke Newington South, Mr Barney Tabasco!

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barneytabasco | 28 September 2009 - 9:53pm

Ah

Not quite.

The last few posts have had the rather more civilised and rather mannered feel of the Lords, as opposed to some of the earlier, more Commons-ish ontributions. Actually Bargepole himself has more than a whiff of this.

Hey ho.

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illuminatus | 28 September 2009 - 9:57pm

I'm warming to Bargepole

This thread is unnecessary but does at least have a happy ending.

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Leedsboy | 28 September 2009 - 10:20pm

new

The Bargepole is dead Long Live The Bargepole!

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paintyface | 28 September 2009 - 11:02pm

so...

Steely Dan and Richard Thompson, eh??

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badger_king | 28 September 2009 - 11:19pm

Nah, Not Convinced

Talking about yourself in the Third Person occasionally could be amusing. Doing it all the time is affectation, or could be construed as a lack of confidence in one's opinion - the inability to say 'I think' or 'I believe', (although in a board of this nature most of us take subjectivity for granted).

As another commentator recently said, 'Talking about yourself in the Third Person is only acceptable for - Those of unsound mind, actors reading a bad monologue, or 5 year-olds.

If we wish to communicate well with our peers, surely we use forms of speech and writing with which they are comfortable, rather than enforcing a construct where (to paraphrase McLuhan) the medium seems to be more important than the message.

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Badlands | 29 September 2009 - 12:29am

I don't like it when people say "I'll get my tin hat"

Some interesting points there, Mr. er, 'Badlands' was it?

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skirky | 29 September 2009 - 4:11pm

It Seems

That Bargepole has been rehabilitated (partly) at the expense of me! -10 and counting. Wayfarer would never refer to himself in the third person, and he laughs at your little arrows of disdain. Ha!

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wayfarer | 29 September 2009 - 12:43am

Affectation?

On this site?
Heaven forfend.

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Retropath2 | 29 September 2009 - 8:10am

A sighting!

A brief one, but welcome nevertheless!

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Patrick Crowther | 29 September 2009 - 8:41am

Is this a sign that the swine flu is over then? :-)

Or just a quiet moment before the coming storm? :-(

Either way, welcome back.

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Steven C | 29 September 2009 - 9:11am

Are You

referring to Moi?
(Welcome back, by the way)

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wayfarer | 29 September 2009 - 1:22pm

clear conscience

I had a bit of a dig at bargepole on the American telly thread. Thought long and hard about it but felt his/her post was so overtly negative and not based in anything that playing his/her choice of words back at him/her with reference to the third person thing would highlight the poor spirit of the post. Been wracked with guilt ever since at being a bit negative myself. I've only done the voting things twice though so not guilty there!

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Jon Whitney | 29 September 2009 - 10:46am

I've always enjoyed

I've always enjoyed Bargepole's distinct style on the blog.

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kidpresentable | 29 September 2009 - 3:45pm

Is my last comment

Does my last comment warrant a minus 5?

I'm not down with this point thing.

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kidpresentable | 30 September 2009 - 3:31pm

Momentum

A position of -5 means that 5 posters have clicked the down-arrow. (More accurately, I think it means that 5 more have clicked the down-arrow than have clicked the up-arrow).

The voting buttons give a simple way for people to add support or otherwise to posts, without (a) being visible and (b) getting into the detail of why they agree or disagree.

At this point, your momentum seems to be heading downwards. I'm sure that at some point, we'll have a voting post like the Andy Kershaw one which ended up off the edge of the screen - I wonder how low voting can go before it wraps round and becomes a large positive number ?

EDIT : the numbers will change as more people vote

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el hombre malo | 30 September 2009 - 3:48pm

Yes, but..

...it's not fair.

All Kidpresentable has done is said that he likes Bargepole's posts. How on earth can you disagree with that, unless it's to present an alternative view, in which case you should just speak your mind?

I like Cup-a-Soup, but only if it has croutons in it. Neg me. Go on, I dare you. I double dare you.

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Albert Edward | 30 September 2009 - 3:50pm

"How on earth can you disagree with that,

unless it's to present an alternative view, in which case you should just speak your mind?"
Perhaps they already have spoken their minds, have you considered that?

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ChaosandMorphine | 30 September 2009 - 3:56pm

What I mean is..

... you can't 'disagree' with someone expressing a simple preference. Well, you can, obviously, as it's taking place here. But it just seems, I don't know, 'wrong' somehow. A little bit underhand. Like a little weaselly dig.

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Albert Edward | 30 September 2009 - 4:03pm

Disagreeing with someone expressing a simple preference

is what this blog is mostly concerned with! - 'The Beatles are better than the Stones. No they're not. Actually Dylan is better than both!' - Sound familiar?
As for weasely dig's, it seems that most people who have an opinion on this particular thread have expressed it openly. Many anti 'pole comments have been negged too, but you don't hear them moaning about it.

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ChaosandMorphine | 30 September 2009 - 4:11pm

No.

"The Beatles are better than the Stones."

That statement you can neg, if you want, because you disagree with it, if you do.

"I like the Beatles more than I like the Stones."

You can't disagree with that. If you do, you're essentially saying, 'No, you don't, you like the Stones more.'

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Albert Edward | 30 September 2009 - 4:18pm

Now

I understand what you were trying to say. Fair point.
However, I still think that as long as the voting buttons are there, it's ok to use them. [And I want them removed, btw.]

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ChaosandMorphine | 30 September 2009 - 4:33pm

Aren't you actually indicating

disapproval rather than disagreement e.g. "I am not happy that you have indicated a preference for The Beatles over The Stones", or "Your preference for B over S does not conform to my rating of the respective groups"?

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Black Type | 30 September 2009 - 5:12pm

Yes.

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ChaosandMorphine | 30 September 2009 - 5:48pm

It just seems a bit like boo-ing

It just seems a bit like booing people's comments instead of conversing. I'm not bothered if others don't agree, I didn't expect much direct response in this case as the alternate view was already present, but given that I was saying something positive about another poster it feels like an odd thing to do.

I've no wish to make a big deal out of it, I'll be onto the next thread in moment, that's just my thoughts on it. I think Albert's point is spot-on as well.

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kidpresentable | 1 October 2009 - 1:27pm

Consider yourself negged (grrrrr!)

just because you dared me to.

My brother will meet you outside school gates :-)

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Black Type | 30 September 2009 - 5:04pm

So that's how they work

I've just clicked the positive button. You've gone up to 0.
Edit: This is a reply to Albertedward's 3.50pm post.

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Seamus | 3 October 2009 - 9:37pm

I'm wondering about

Blogging about blogging.
I don't think there's any harm in it.
But is there anything to be gained?
I was going to start a thread to that effect, but I didn't want to be blogging about blogging about blogging.

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Adman | 29 September 2009 - 8:37pm

Careful now

I've already sustained two body hits. Good job I invested in a Onanist Proof Jacket.

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RobertC | 29 September 2009 - 8:46pm

It's wipe-clean presumably?

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stimpy | 29 September 2009 - 9:13pm

(That's why I whispered it)

(This is me whispering, btw...)

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Adman | 29 September 2009 - 9:47pm

This just in: it's Arthur

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Martin | 29 September 2009 - 9:56pm

Bargepole

Correct me if I'm wrong (and feel free to beat me severly if someone's already brought this up) but I seem to recall a gossip column in the late (lamented?) "Punch" magazine being called "Bargepole" - and if my ever-decaying memory fails to deceive me as usual - I'm pretty sure was written in the third person.

In that context, I'd kind of assumed the Bargepole on here was paying his/her own tribute to said column - maybe I'm wrong?

Anyway, man.of.soup has far more to worry about than whether someone blogs here in the third person, so urges a sense of perspective on this forum, allied to an almost Edwardian degree of ridiculously good manners (growing bigger mutton chops would almost certainly assist).

PS I agree with everyone who noted the decline in manners and increase in aggression on this forum - how abut we don't just play nice but grow the f*** up a bit too?

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man.of.soup | 30 September 2009 - 12:33pm

Kind sir

I concur most whole heartedly with your well chosen words. Your point is well made. However, I do feel I cannot let such affectation as the use of lower case and inappropriate full stops in your moniker go by without remarking what a shame it is that such careless abuse of the King's English is so prevalent these days, and I dearly wish it was otherwise. I bid you good day.

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Sven Garlic | 30 September 2009 - 12:45pm

Well spotted

that man,said Bargepole. and hear hear to your final comments too!

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bargepole | 30 September 2009 - 3:13pm

uh oh

he's not going to start talking exclusively in the past tense as well, is he?

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Captain Underpants | 30 September 2009 - 6:56pm

Bargepole the 1st

was more satire than gossip wasn't it ? -I'm a fan of the collected works, see e.g. Amazon's synopsis:

For a while, it seemed that the columnist and scourge Bargepole might disappear forever from the global scene which he had straddled for so long like a snarling, priapic colossus on mindaltering drugs. But it was not to be. Dull dogs in suits, crushed and despairing, could shut down "Punch", Bargepole's home for years. Tax inspectors, wizened from spite and irritable bowel syndrome, could distrain upon, his chattels. Wicked moralists could ring up his women and preach Christianity and political correctness at them. But Bargepole could not be kept down. This compendium of columns from the late humour publication, the intensely irritated standard bearer for the dissatisfied fogies amongst us.

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SpaceBoy | 30 September 2009 - 8:30pm

A highly commended read to all concerned

although tricky to get hold of nowadays.
Bargepole also highly recommends the book 'Big Babies' if you're not already familiar with it.

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bargepole | 30 September 2009 - 9:07pm

aH

that's why your picture is of a Mr Punch from Punch and Judy, another Punch reference.

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goosefat101 | 30 September 2009 - 9:58pm

Bargepole #1 in

the person of Michael Bywater still, I'm glad to see, writes quite a bit-but may hold a record for speed of getting bored w/ Twitter ...

http://twitter.com/mbywater

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SpaceBoy | 30 September 2009 - 10:08pm

come in here dear boy

have a cigar, you're gonna go far, quoth bargepole.

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bargepole | 30 September 2009 - 10:21pm

This Thread

has been worth it just for your comment. Genius.

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ChaosandMorphine | 30 September 2009 - 10:50pm

Hooray!

I'm the hundredth post on a really silly subject.

Leave the 'pole alone - we may become subject to a Panaorama expose of cyber-bullying

Look - I think Abba are crap - surely that's worse than anything Bargepole has written. Third person or otherwise.

Get the negs flying in

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Sheev | 30 September 2009 - 4:11pm

Bless ya

and to demonstrate..

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RobertC | 30 September 2009 - 4:22pm

to take heat off the Bargepolak

I think Richard Thompson produced good stuff with Fairport Convention but has, in my opinion, been a bland, mediocre singer songwriter ever since.

Flow, negs, flow.

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badger_king | 30 September 2009 - 5:42pm

Ah but we all know that you're saying that for a reaction

and that you don't really mean it :-)

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stimpy | 30 September 2009 - 6:26pm

-14 and counting

just to make something clear, I am no troll

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James Blast | 30 September 2009 - 7:07pm

Indeed not

And I clicked you up because I didn't want you to think you weren't loved.

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Carl Parker | 30 September 2009 - 7:19pm

We'd be better off using the buttons...

... for polls.

In fact, I think I'll do one.

... after dinner.

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Albert Edward | 30 September 2009 - 7:27pm

first poll

should the buttons stay or go!

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bargepole | 30 September 2009 - 7:30pm

Bargepole!

You've been cured! Praise be to the Lord!

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Molesworth | 30 September 2009 - 7:39pm

Well , you know my view

and true to form they're at it again. Congenital and habitual, you see. Well, I kind of like whoever now. They're almost like part of some inherited dusty furniture or a bottled owl, or even perhaps an elderly incontinent and flatulent mastiff that you have grown to love and accept, but can't bear to shoot. We'd miss them you know.

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RobertC | 30 September 2009 - 8:18pm

Confused of Bargepole thread writes, "Who is 'they'?"

Are we talking about the Manchester Uniteds and Chelseas of this world? God, that pluralitis stuff really gets my goat.

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Martin | 30 September 2009 - 8:36pm

I think he means the buttons

are like farty dogs

but I'm not completely convinced I'm following this either.

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Captain Underpants | 30 September 2009 - 8:41pm

Make

it
stop...

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Adman | 30 September 2009 - 7:47pm

aye

it's gotten well out of hand but did throw up some "Word Forum" style humour in the middle
Beatles/Stones... Genesis if you ask me, early PG stuff of course

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James Blast | 30 September 2009 - 7:53pm

on a serious note

I don't really like the third person thing - its a bit 6th form.

But what I REALLY don't like is that all of the posts by B/P have been heavily voted down, almost on principal. There's no place for that sort of thing.

It's why people preceive this country as going to hell in a handcart...!If it isn't affecting your life, stop being mean to people.

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Oscar Patterson | 2 October 2009 - 4:01pm

.

.

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Adman | 2 October 2009 - 9:15pm

and can bargepole just mention

that since he joined this site a goodly number of his posts haven't been in the third person as (a)sometimes he forgets and (b)other times he simply can't be arsed. but not on this occasion though.

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bargepole | 5 October 2009 - 6:30pm

'Tom's putting it in now'

- will make sense to long time Popbitchers - surely the creepiest example of third person speech.

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badartdog | 2 October 2009 - 8:48pm

i would depend...

...on how the line was delivered, surely?

Mr Baker seems to be a bit mad anyway, so if he's putting it in, you should have expected something weird.

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Andrew Cotterill | 5 October 2009 - 2:42pm

This is an ex-topic

It has ceased to be - interesting, amusing, diverting, illuminating, relevant or enlightening.

Please can it be allowed to rest in peace.

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Occam | 5 October 2009 - 6:43pm

Damn fine thesaurus

you have there Mr/Ms Occam.

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Badlands | 6 October 2009 - 12:40am

Nice razor, too!

;-)

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nigelthebald | 6 October 2009 - 9:21am

Fine

In theory.........

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Badlands | 6 October 2009 - 10:15am

How very true, Bad.

In practice, having a vast acreage to shave, I use cheap twin-blade swivel-head ones (with aloe vera) from Lidl...

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nigelthebald | 6 October 2009 - 10:56am

A second blade theory!

what next - a grassy knoll !?

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Badlands | 6 October 2009 - 12:46pm

Dunno about "grassy"

More of a defoliated knoll, really...

Nearly all the growth on the knoll in question has been restricted to the back and sides for many a year, so my twin-blade simply mops up time's leftovers.

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nigelthebald | 6 October 2009 - 1:10pm

You'll have someone's eye out.

All of you, stop fighting.

Or I won't ask you what you've been reading every 6 weeks or so.

So there.

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Beezer | 6 October 2009 - 9:48am

An entire lunchbreak

...it took me to read this thread. Enjoyed, as ever, the semantic jousting on all sides and glad to see good sense prevailing.

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Vorgongod | 6 October 2009 - 1:32pm
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