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SO HERE IT IS, THE CHRISTMAS PODCAST

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ImageIn which David Hepworth, Andrew Harrison and Fraser Lewry find their conversation ranging across such diverse topics as: why Gordon Brown may be the last non-telegenic Prime Minister, whether "The Thick Of It" is still funny or just up its own fundament, what you can divine about X Factor without watching it, how Cheryl Cole became the nation's sweetheart, George "Porky" Peckham's unique contribution to rock history, why vinyl should be an essentially French concept and round up your observations about the variance between real Christmas and Christmas as depicted in pop songs and TV programmes.

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Last or least telegenic?

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DrJ | 18 December 2009 - 3:10pm

Fixed

Thank-you.

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David Hepworth | 18 December 2009 - 3:21pm

Cool

Can I come do work experience as a sub? :-)

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DrJ | 18 December 2009 - 4:04pm

Another year over.....

Thick of Ot still ace and funny.

And The Wire still shite.

Happy Christmas Mr Scrooge, er, I mean Mr H!

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DogFacedBoy | 18 December 2009 - 4:20pm

"The Wire still shite"

Never post after the office party.

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David Hepworth | 18 December 2009 - 4:23pm

Oh yes it is!

*no, stop it!*

sorry Mr H but I was out for a birthday curry the other night and had to endure the couple at the next table having THAT conversation -

'oooh I watched the whole lot in a weekend....you have to get past the first couple of episodes before you 'get it'....only understand one word in ten.....he's actually British, you know....best telly ever....i'll lend you the 1st season and you'll thank me.

Every single rotten cliche. Fair put me off me ruby it did.

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DogFacedBoy | 18 December 2009 - 4:43pm

I've never seen a minute of X Factor

and look forward to what I can divine.

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MyAmericanMate | 18 December 2009 - 4:30pm

Terrible music carrier

Philips Digital Compact Cassette. It was meant to be a competitor to the Sony Minidisc and DAT, but the Philips one would also play conventional cassettes.

It didn't really take off because the professionals were quite happy with their DAT and the consumer people were either happy with CD or using Minidisc (this was slightly before everyone and their dog could burn their own CDs easily).

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Dr Yang | 18 December 2009 - 5:20pm

The irony...

The irony was that the DCC adverts that ran in the music press at the time mocked 8 track.

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JQW | 18 December 2009 - 8:42pm

DCC

was launched almost a year before Minidisc. The launch featured a high end separate (DCC900) and some Dire Straits pre-recorded tapes in May '92. Philips were slow to launch an in-car or portable model (a motor show launch in Oct 92) adding to the format's free-fall.

Even a Q magazine DCC give-away on CD (!) couldn't help the format.

I disagree with terrible music carrier. It offered digital reproduction along with record-ability and the backwards compatibility of analogue compact cassette. It did suffer from awful marketing and not having the word Sony on it.

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TedLoaf | 23 December 2009 - 9:45am

It's the least we can do

Who amongst us will invite Fraser and his mum around for Christmas?

Somebody has to do it! Who lives the nearest?

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Martin Simmonds | 18 December 2009 - 5:34pm

Battle for no. 1

Actually it happened last year with the battle between the X factor version of Hallelujah and Jeff Buckley's which was campaigned for.

Please Mr Harrison, stop calling listeners "viewers"!

Merry Christmas to all who made the podcast my favourite listening experience of the last couple of years.

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dai | 19 December 2009 - 12:08am

Cheryl Cole on X Factor panel

Whether you consider her to be a good singer or not, she's been through the process herself, and won.

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tkdmart | 19 December 2009 - 2:13pm

Cheryl Cole can't sing, Heppo?

"Four being behind the desk two people can't sing, and the other two can't sing either! Cheryl Cole and Dannii Minogue."

That's fighting talk. I'll give you Dannii; but la Cole can, at the very least, aim for a note and hit it.

See you in the car park.

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johnlyons121 | 2 January 2010 - 11:47am

Vinyl Records

The return of an old friend I didn't realize how much I missed. As well as the visual splendour, warmth of sound, heft and secret inscriptions, the tactile reward is one that creeps up on you. The simple joy generated by that sequence of careful unsleeving, index and middle fingers on the hole, thumb on the edge and twirl to turn over before popping on the spindle, is something almost impossible to convey to the digital generations.

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Bo Doogley | 19 December 2009 - 7:59pm

Worst music carrier

As a callow youth I bought my first albums - Piledriver, Tubular Bells, Aladdin Sane on cassette which I had to play on a tiny mono cassette player. My Dad, however, had an 8 track player in the car and an 8 track hi-fi in the house (8 track plus radio - no record deck). One day he came home with an adapter shaped like an 8 track cartridge that allowed you to put in a normal cassette and play it back in glorious stereo. And so, after several months of listening to Tubular Bells in mono, I finally heard the voice of Viv Stanshall introducing the instruments. Joy was unconfined and continued until he bought a "music centre" and we joined the musical mainstream.

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tonyg | 19 December 2009 - 8:11pm

was looking

for the Don Cheadle 8 Track bit from Boogie Nights-alas still not on web but this:

http://www.8trackheaven.com/

was ...

The spirit of the Weltron 2001
http://www.apartmenttherapy.com/la/unplggd-crosspost/how-to-give-new-lif...

seems to my mind to live on in the Pure Sensia
http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2009/09/17/pure-sensia-digital-radio-first-...

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NickW | 21 December 2009 - 7:20pm

Was slightly alarmed

to hear Fraser saying he was going to Paris this w/e iirc ? Is he OK ?

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NickW | 20 December 2009 - 7:04am

by eurostar ?

Did Fraser get there or is he stuck in the tunnel ??

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andrewdavidlong | 21 December 2009 - 12:21am

Not stuck

But a very long journey back involving train, train, bus, ferry, bus, bus, train, train, bus.

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Fraser Lewry | 21 December 2009 - 7:47am

Yay

that's Kings Cross to Peterborough on tuesday morning sorted can you do another hour to get me to wakefield!! Happy Christmas

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Chris G | 20 December 2009 - 11:20pm

Likeable sitcom characters

While agreeing in the main about the discussion around why some sitcoms last & others don't (Hep's argument is that basically The Thick of It & others of the same ilk have diminishing returns because the characters are unlikeable), one sitcom came to mind which I believe is the exception - Seinfeld. I can't think of one character (either main or supporting) who could be described as likeable. Indeed, I think that was one of the rules for the show, along with nothing would be resolved at the end of an episode, and the characters would never learn a lesson.
Gary

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garyt | 21 December 2009 - 7:36am

Minus 1 Tracks

More CDs with hidden "minus 1"-tracks: There's a secret song by Nick Cave & The Dirty Three before track 1 on the "X Files" soundtrack album ("Songs In The Key Of X"). And REM hid a promotional radio spot on the "Murmur" CD.

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Mychael | 21 December 2009 - 8:38am

Heppo

Was on top form in the 'cast, and AH too. I'm glad they dropped the fiction that "we all" watch crap like the X factor and acknowledged the fact that TV comedy is rarely funny. Now can we move to more coverage of music in the mag and fewer, ideally no, interviews with comedians/other dross TV/media "personalities"?

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Twangothan | 21 December 2009 - 3:38pm

No Christmas party this year, chaps?

If I recall correctly, in previous years we've had a brief "Live from the Word Christmas party" podcast round about now. Whilst this year's full-length "proper" podcast was very welcome, and terrifically entertaining as ever, I do worry that times are so straitened at Word Towers that you've not been able to afford a staff Christmas party. Say it ain't so, folks!

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Paul Vincent | 21 December 2009 - 3:40pm

Don't worry

We can buy them all a sherb at the end of Jan gathering of the Massive.

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Twangothan | 21 December 2009 - 4:01pm

That was my fault

The party took place two days before and I had my dates mixed up. Hence, no recording.

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David Hepworth | 21 December 2009 - 4:36pm

Phew!

The relief is palpable - Tiny Tim gets his goose, after all. God bless us, every one!

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Paul Vincent | 23 December 2009 - 12:15am

The Pet Shop Boys are right, Mr Hepworth

There was more to watch on television twenty years ago.

Substantial dramas not written by chuckle brothers writing alumni hacks like Russell T Davies.
Comedies where you actually laughed out loud
Arts programmes that weren't just beginners guides that treated you like someone doing a school course
Documentary film makers with a broader outlook than Peter Andre's love life
Soaps with a political conscience
A radical Channel 4
ITV not having gone to the dogs yet (World In Action, The Bill as a 1 hour quality drama, Hot Metal, Spitting Image in its prime)
Barry Norman not Jonathan Ross

The fast decline of British Television begins at this point

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_ITV#The_Broadcasting_Act_of_1990

100s of channels nowadays. Very nice, name one classic piece of television made by Sky One? They've only had two decades.

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Extra Texture | 21 December 2009 - 10:04pm

BBC4 tonight,

however, redeemed things to some extent, with not one but TWO excellent "tribute" programs, looking back over the careers of Oliver Postgate and Clement Freud. It's the time of year for looking back, and each program was both timely and hugely entertaining. All is not quite lost, it seems.

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Paul Vincent | 23 December 2009 - 12:18am

Re Bilbo

I was in the Passion Puppets signed to Stiff in the eighties. If you happen to look at the Stiff 12" single S buy 188 the message engraved in the out of the vinyl is 'Good luck Kim' this refers to my pregnant wife Kim (could hardly refer to her as the FPO in these circumstances!) on the pending birth of out daughter Lisa born 23-10-1983 in the middle of a tour with Paul Young. Couldn't resist mentioning this on hearing the podcast glad to hear bilbo is still making a living these days.

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Lunaman | 2 January 2010 - 2:24pm

Being made fools of by TV - not really

Bit late with this but still. Not wishing to defend X Factor but just for the reason that I think the podcast comments are wrong I should say that it's not all about the back story and the close-up reaction shots. The reactions tend not to vary that much. They don't go on about the back story a great deal. My impression, as someone who actually watches more than a minute of the damn show, is that viewers are bothered about how good the performance and, yes it's true, how good the singing was. My work colleagues do mainly discuss the performances and the singing. I know there are those who are sick of this subject and it's no big deal to me but I just think this analysis is wrong and we keep hearing it. I don't really buy this idea that TV is just about faces reacting. People watch for the songs, the content - whether it be sport or music or opinions or interesting facts about animals. We watch the Olympics to see great athletes break records and perform feats not to see them grimace or whoop with joy - much as those facial expressions are featured. So they are not treating us like idiots - that's just an impression those who don't watch these things, but hold prejudiced preconceptions about them, have. It's not how it is it's how some like to think it is. But as I say I am not that bothered, doesn't appear that way I know. I do agree on the Susan Boyle point though.

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Sven Garlic | 14 January 2010 - 8:17pm
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