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I'm trying to get back to nature a bit and move away from prime cuts I eat to more varied meat dishes - the stuff our grand parents may have eaten.

I went to a butchers to get a 'beef shank' ie beef on the bone to slow cook for a few hours so that the marrow flavours the sauce. Surprisingly he said 1) it's called beef shin, and 2) he'd have to order it in for me. I glanced around at Smithfield market and asked why and he said well not much of it's sold. So I've ordered a shin which he'll chop up for me and I can defrost and use as I need.

I'm very excited.

Does anyone do much in the way of olde worlde cooking of meat, and any recipes?

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Spanish style pork belly...

With garlic, onion, chorizo, tomatoes, peppers and cannellini and butter beans. Few herbs (parsley, bunch of sage)

Chop - bung in oven with a little chicken stock at a low-ish heat for 4 hours. Bingo. Delish.

Can also do the same on the hob but put the beans in in the last half hour otherwise they go solid.

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Six Dog | 3 November 2011 - 5:35pm

Heaven

Choriza and butter beans. A marriage made in heaven.

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marmiteboy | 3 November 2011 - 6:16pm

Lots. Tons.

Shin's nice, but it's quite a sweet cut so I like to mix it up with some ox cheek. Makes great pies, that stew.

There's lots of wild rabbit around at the moment (you can tell wild; it's pink. Farmed is white, and absolutely stupid. We're fucking drowning in wild rabbits in this country!). I've got a rabbit in my fridge ready for casseroling later tonight.

Lamb: blade-side of shoulder on the bone is a wonderful slow roasting cut, and much cheaper than leg. Buy Welsh. It's the best in the world.

Belly of pork on the bone would be my last meal. Get the butcher to score it, then marinate it overnight in something hot and sharp. Cook it slow for a few hours, then napalm it at the end for the crackling.

I've been getting into sweetbreads. Gorgeous. Meltingly tender if you flash them fast on Satan's own griddle.

And pig's trotter. Get em for pennies, clean and sear them, roast incredibly slowly and gently for most of the day until they're almost melting. Amazing. Quite a lot you can do with them.

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Bob | 3 November 2011 - 5:45pm

Agree on the slow roasted shoulder of Lamb

Prior to cooking I make slits were possible across it and ram in garlic cloves and rosemary.

I'm sure everyone else does much the same - it's not a unique approach with lamb. But its a relatively cheaper cut and that slow-roast results in the meat falling off in succulent deeply infused lumps.

*goes for a bit of a lie down*

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Beezer | 4 November 2011 - 10:21am

Wow

That's some great stuff. Thanks guys.

I need to come back to this with a pencil.

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niscum | 3 November 2011 - 5:40pm

I'd suggest

Lamb shank, brown then slow cook in red wine and chicken stock on the hob with the usual extras - onion, herbs, etc.

Try a similar recipe with oxtail,and let it cook for a couple of hours.

Pork belly definitely seconded. Persomally I wouldn't score it and I'd start with the oven on maximum when you put in and go straight to a low heat to try and avoid the blast at the end which tightens the meat just as you are getting ready to eat. Foil will protect the crackling if needs be. Try and sit it on a rack while you are roasting so the meats not sitting in the rendered fat. 1om of water in the pan will stop the fat burning.

Kidney and liver also highly recommended. And lots you can to with chicken giblets, too

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IanP | 3 November 2011 - 6:07pm

Why wouldn't you score it?

Got to be scored for decent crackling, surely?

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Bob | 3 November 2011 - 6:18pm

The only reason you score the skin..

Is for ease of carving. It gives you somewhere to get the knife in and also allows strips of crackling to be pulled off. Otherwise, you end up with a carapace of armour-plate which needs to be broken up with a toffee-hammer.

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Lenny Law | 4 November 2011 - 1:13am

Zackly my point.

Decent crackling is servable, pullable crackling. No good to anyone if you have to smash it to shards.

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Bob | 4 November 2011 - 7:23am

You certainly don't need to score it make top-notch crackling

With pork belly I sometimes found the rendered fat would collect on some of the diamonds of skin, meaning they wouldn't crisp.

I saw Marco Pierre White do the skin unscored, copied him, and it's worked for me every time since.

I buy the thick end of the belly with the bones, so I always turn it upside down to carve anyway so everyone gets a bone a chew on and you're not trying to cut through them, and the skin doesn't smash to shards.

And, if you're greedy like me and buy the biggest piece of meat that fits in your oven, it's looks quite impressive when you produce a golden sheet of crispiness.

And Marmite, down below, if you're ever in Stoke Newington call in for some grub.

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IanP | 4 November 2011 - 12:52pm

Eeeenteresting.

Shall have to try that. I generally cook belly (thick end with bones too) upside down on the bars of an oven shelf, with the potatoes below in a roasting pan. I just turn it right-way up for the last few mins of blast-heat to crisp it. Works for me, but always nice to have new ideas!

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Bob | 4 November 2011 - 1:00pm

Here's how I do it, if you are interested

Take the pork out of the fridge at least an hour before cooking. Completely dry the skin with a cloth, massage in salt.
There are tips about scalding the skin with boiling water, or pricking it all over with a pin. I've tried both of these and they didn't seem to make much difference. The drying is my top tip.
Pulverise some garlic in a mortar and pestle and mix with five spice and salt. Rub this into the flesh, but not the skin. Do this at the start and let it sit on the meat for an hour.
Put the meat on a wire rack in a baking tray, skin side up. 1cm of water in the baking tray, this stops the rendered fat burning, it also steams the meat from below and helps keep it tender. The water will have to be topped up during the cooking.
Pre-heat over to maximum, put in meat, turn oven down low after 10 minutes. Crackling should be done, if not it can be blasted at the end, but best avoided if possible to stop the meat tensing up again.
Cook for three-four hours if it's a whopper.
As the meat's so rich I go for rice or egg noodles with some stir-fried Chinese greens and oyster sauce.
Lastly, eat till you are fit to burst. Snooze

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IanP | 4 November 2011 - 1:21pm

Ian

If you leave the pork uncovered, skin side up in the fridge for a few hours (bottom shelf, natch) that helps to dry out and crisp the skin too.

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Cobweb Steve | 4 November 2011 - 4:31pm

Dinner

Can I come to your house for dinner Ian?

Lamb shank is second only to oxtail as my favourite dinner ever. All that glupy yumminess.

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marmiteboy | 3 November 2011 - 6:19pm

I fully recommend

smoking pork shoulder (not in rizlas, in some sort of metal cannister). A mate of mine from texas showed me this - you smoke the pork for 7-8 hours, after which time it just falls apart at the touch of a fork. That's how you get pulled pork. For anyone who has visited Bodeans in London,you'll know what I'm talking about.

He used to have a trailer which was a smoker - he'd tow it to sports events the night before, leave it smoking there overnight then have a BBQ in the car park.

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Chimney Singing... | 3 November 2011 - 6:35pm

Bodean's!

An absolute joy..

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Vorgongod | 4 November 2011 - 10:05am

Jamie's slow-cooked shoulder

Not his, the lamb's, silly. I recommend this - good for a dinner party. Loads of succulent, so tender, fall-off-the-bone, juicy meat.

http://www.cookipedia.co.uk/wiki/index.php/Jamie_Oliver's_4_hour_slow_roast_lamb

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Sven Garlic | 3 November 2011 - 6:59pm

I was about to post the same one

so exactly as Sven said! Can't recommend it highly enough, we are having it sunday with carrot & parsnip mash.

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daddyclark | 3 November 2011 - 9:35pm

Last Night BBC Two

Caught part of a programme about great British produce - that Aussie bloke off Master Chef was doing a bit about rare breed British beef and doing some great slow cooking.

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Tony Donaghey | 3 November 2011 - 7:55pm

But, Gordon Bennett,

how much must that four-rib joint have cost?

Still drooling at the thought, mind!

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renkadima | 3 November 2011 - 10:40pm

Yeah.

That had to be a hundred quid's worth of meat, especially if it was organic and from a posh butcher. Looked bloody awesome.

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Bob | 4 November 2011 - 10:30am

Can I suggest that you'd do well to

check out some of my mate Stu's research, which you can buy in the form of cheap little pamphlets that include lots of yummy recipes? He's coming over for dinner on Sunday, so I'll tell him to expect some orders; can you believe this is his main source of income!

You may have seen him on Tales From The Green Valley on't Beeb - he was the bloke with the folk-club standard beard. Oh, and he's also given Baldrick a lesson in butchering pigs.

http://stuart-hmaltd.com/types_of_food_1550_1660.php

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Vulpes Vulpes | 3 November 2011 - 7:56pm

That's a great

resource. I've saved it in favourites and look forward to choosing something off it. Great idea too.

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niscum | 5 November 2011 - 12:17pm

Not a personal recommendation as such,

but I have seen a few references to Fergus Henderson's book "Nose to Tail Eating: A Kind of British Cooking". I saw the episode of Anthony Bourdain's "No Reservations" series when he went to Henderson's restaurant St John in London and had the bone marrow with toast which he claimed was one of the top 5 dishes he'd ever had. At least according to Bourdain Henderson is a god to other chefs.

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Harold Holt | 3 November 2011 - 8:12pm

Liver

Has to be calves liver.

Flour it on both sides (chuck it in a plastic bag with the flour and seasoning and shake).

Get a hot frying pan and fry it until it is as you want it, I like mine a bit pink in the middle.

Serve with grilled streaky bacon, onion gravy, peas and spuds of your choice.

Heaven!

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Uncle Wheaty | 3 November 2011 - 8:23pm

*Dribbling like Homer Simpson*

Mmm Liver and Bacon

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Six Dog | 4 November 2011 - 10:50am

Note: remember to take livers out of plastic bag

before frying...

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stimpy | 4 November 2011 - 1:12pm

Ropa Vieja

Made with flank steak (skirt steak here, entraña in Spanish and bavette in French). Put your flank steak swimming with a couple cans of chopped toms and green chillies in low for 4-6 hours. For the last hour, throw in a diced onion, sliced red and green bells, cumin, corriander and chilli powder. You've got the Canarian/Cubano/Mexicano delight of Ropa Vieja.

Throw it into soft tortillas or eat with rice. Mmm-mmm.

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MyAmericanMate | 3 November 2011 - 8:33pm

MAM, that sounds amazing.

Thanks! Just added some skirt to my butchers list for Sat.

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Bob | 3 November 2011 - 9:42pm

I am even now...

...slow cooking ropa vieja. The plan is to cook it slowly tonight, then let it rest overnight, do a gentle reheat tomorrow and have it for tea tomorrow. Thanks for the tip, MAM - it smells absolutely bloody lovely. I might even post a pic when it's out.

I bought pretty much an entire skirt - it looked delicious, and it was such a pleasure to see James the butcher at his knife work, so I just said "I'll take the lot". Have made industrial quantities. Will probably still eat it all.

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Bob | 5 November 2011 - 8:09pm

I really hope you enjoyed

it.

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MyAmericanMate | 5 November 2011 - 11:46pm

I've not eaten it yet.

It's on tonight's menu. I had a little taster last night though, and it was really good. I'll be doing it again - thanks!

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Bob | 6 November 2011 - 9:53am

Om nom.

Probably not terribly authentic, but farking tasty. Cheers once again, MAM.

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Bob | 6 November 2011 - 7:44pm

Cooking instructions

please!

in the oven or on the hob?

Problem is I only have a fan oven combi thing and 4 hours of that I'm guessing isn't what was meant.

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niscum | 9 December 2011 - 12:23pm

Game

Would agree with all the above recommendations re. shin of beef, belly pork and lamb shoulder.

One of the highlights of this time of year is the arrival of the first game and there is little that whets the Beach tastebuds more than a nice pheasant. If you have a Farmers' market or licensed game dealer in the neighbourhood, then that's the place to buy.

There is a common misapprehension that game is expensive. Due to the daft number of corporate shoots these days, there is a lot of quality meat available at less than production cost. Around my neck of the woods I can pick up a brace (two) birds for £3 or £6.50 if I can't be bothered to pluck them, which is usually the case. Partridge, wild duck and rabbit are alittle more expensive but still far better value and quality than anything on offer at any supermarket.

Slowly cooked with shallots, apple and cider with a dash of cream, or perhaps a pot roast with garlic, any herbs to hand, onion, celery and white wine.Both are delicious and great value.

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Sebastian Beach | 3 November 2011 - 10:45pm

We had...

...pheasant tonight. Pheasant with juniper and pears, bacon, some new potatoes and some peas. It was good.

That said, as much as I like game birds, I don't usualy bother. Really and truly my favourite bird is a properly good, decently sized, decently aged chicken. None of your supermarket - a good, mature-ish roast chicken that's roamed freely while alive, had a diet a chicken might conceivably choose and been dry-plucked is still one of the best plates of food I can think of.

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Bob | 5 November 2011 - 8:10pm

A good chicken

The perfect test for me is looking at the quality of stock that comes from a bird that has been well looked after and has had a decent life. The little meat remaining stuck to the carcass is darker and the stock has a gelatinous quality and depth that you simply can't achieve with a battery chicken.

Made loads of stock yeterday from a bird we roasted on Saturday - half went into a spicy squash soup and the rest will be used in a mushroom risotto tonight.

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Sebastian Beach | 7 November 2011 - 10:07am

Im at the point of

stopping buying chicken from the supermarket. Unless it's heavily disguised with sauce it's flavourless, even the expensive ones.

Stock: the stock I got from the beef shin (below) is outstanding - it cools down from chunky soup to beef and veg in gelatin. I honestly feel like every fibre of my body is thanking me for eating that.

Re a good chicken: would you get that from a regular butcher? And did you roast first then boil up the bones after?

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niscum | 7 November 2011 - 11:48am

ChickenI

I tend to get most of my whole chicken from a small specialist producer who attends our local Farmers' market.

I also use two farmer/butcher shops and both source chicken from reputable suppliers. One does a lot of restaurant trade and is a good place to pick up Chickent thighs which are left over after the catering trade take the breasts.My favourite part of the bird and great for pies, curries or simply marinated and grilled.

My stock recipe is a basic one using the roast carcass, add onion, parsley, carrots, leek, peppercorns, plenty of water and simmer for a couple of hours. No real effort but worth it and important to use the whole animal imho.

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Sebastian Beach | 7 November 2011 - 12:11pm

Apparently the chicken feet

are very good for stock.(I think it's the magic ingredient in the Jewish mum's get well chicken soup) I just bought a frozen pack from a Chinese supermarket and will either make stock with them on their own or more likely put a few in with the free range chicken they do at the local butchers.

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niscum | 7 November 2011 - 6:37pm

A Jewish mum writes

Chicken feet are a welcome addition to chicken soup, but not necessary. What you really need are carrots, onions, celery, a "boiling fowl", an additional chicken carcass and the giblets. Cover with water, simmer gently. Serve with kneidlach (dumplings), lockshen (vermicelli), maybe even kreplach if you like it (meat stuffed dumplings), the sliced carrots from the soup, and some of the shredded chicken.

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Hannah | 7 November 2011 - 9:55pm

thanks jewish mum,

Ive noted that and plan to do that when I get the bird this weekend.

In the meantime the feet I bought yesterday are thawing tonight and are going in the pot all day tmw, with some asian ingredients (star anise, little knob of ginger, bit of lemon grass and some hottish peppers) for a clear spicy broth. Can't wait to try it.

Saved a couple of feet for the chicken soup too :)

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niscum | 8 November 2011 - 9:42pm

Got a full freezer at the mo.

Autumn game c/o the Hampshire Farmers' Market. A couple of rabbits, a load of muntjac and a stack of pidgeon and partridge breast. We had a hare last week which I filleted off and stewed long and slow in cider and a stock made from the frame. Lots of chunky veg went in towards the end. Lovely.

I've also got a load of mutton. I think it was Bob who told me about Blackface. I ordered one of these

http://www.blackface.co.uk/products_detail.asp?prod=661

and, for £52, seem to have near on an entire sheep. One huge and delicious hotpot and one huge and delicious curry and I've just about taken the top off what arrived. I did have to exercise my long-neglected sheep butchery skills a bit but it wasn't too much of a strain.

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Lenny Law | 4 November 2011 - 1:23am

Shin.

I did a Beef Rendang earlier this year, and the recipe specified beef shin, for slow, low temperature cooking, ending up with a rich but quite dry, spicy stew.

I bought it from the butcher in the local market, on the day at no notice, who seemed delighted to at my plans for it. He took great pains to claim that unscrupulous supermarkets sometimes try to pass it off as fillet, specifically that the steaks would be sold in pairs , and while one steak would be real fillet, the other would really be shin, and how I should look for the thin membrane in shin, which is the way to tell. Sounds a bit far-fetched to me, mind. Meanwhile, the rendang was splendid.

Can recall whose recipe it was. I thought it was Rick Stein's but the book says not.

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Doods | 4 November 2011 - 1:49am

Absolutely true.

Old butchers' trick.

Shin is normally sold sliced across the bone but the long, lean muscle closest to the surface could be pulled off a whole forequarter and sold as fillet to the unsuspecting punter.

Tough as old buggery, the theory was that the punter would come back the next week and complain. The crafty butcher would then hand over, as a gesture of goodwill, free of charge and with fulsome apologies, a bit of top rump, trimmed down to look like fillet.

Punter goes away and is happy when the meat is cooked and eaten.

Top rump being as good as fillet but at a third of the price, butcher is still in credit.

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Lenny Law | 4 November 2011 - 2:16am

The tough cuts (shin, chuck etc)

are my favourite in curries and stews. While slow cooking is all well and good, I'd strongly recommend getting a pressure cooker if you are getting into these sorts of meals. I use it for any recipe where it says "...and then cover and simmer for X hours". You need to get a stove-top one, rather than electric, and make sure it has as broad a base as possible, so you can brown the meat and then cook it in the same pot. They are an absolute revelation if you haven't used them before.

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Podicle | 4 November 2011 - 5:02am

Seconded.

Brew up a stew, flip the valve and let it whistle for a few seconds, then just turn it off; cooks on for an hour or two at slowly reducing pressure and slowly reducing temperature, and delivers all of the flavour you started with, having lost none of it. Brilliant kit.

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Vulpes Vulpes | 4 November 2011 - 10:26am

Thanks all.

Is there a general consensus on the use of the pressure cooker?

Convenience V lost flavour/goodness?

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niscum | 4 November 2011 - 9:54am

Pressure Cookers

Try making stock in a pressure cooker and you'll never go back. Faster, and much more flavour.

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Fraser Lewry | 4 November 2011 - 10:03am

*adds a new item to wishlist*

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Bob | 4 November 2011 - 10:32am

Brings it back

My Mum used one. I remember the condensation streaming down the kitchen window, and some inedible stew with meat you could chew for a week and not be able to swallow emerging from it. I remember spending an entire Sunday afternoon sitting at the table with this glop in front of me under the "people are starving in Africa and you can sit there until you eat it" rule. That meat with thick layers of white membrane in it. Disgusting. Horrors. Never even occurred to me they might produce anything edible.

**beads of sweat on top lip at thought**

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Twangothan | 4 November 2011 - 11:10am

Pressure Cookers

Came home from school one afternoon (this would be around 1982) to find the contents of the stew Mum had prepared before she left for work, had exploded across a wide area of the downstairs living space.

The immediate blast area (kitchen hob) looked as though it had suffered some sort of nuclear meltdown and debris had scattered throughout the hallway and into the living area.

I slowly shut the kitchen door, pretended I hadn't seen anything, fetched a ball from the garage and went over the park.

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Six Dog | 4 November 2011 - 11:16am

Helpful!

Hey, here's a social mobility story for you: the same thing happened in my kitchen the other day. Except it was my espresso pot.

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Bob | 4 November 2011 - 11:49am

It was one of those jobs...

...where you wouldn't know where to start. So I didn't.

I think they had to get some men from Porton Down to come and supervise the clean up operation in the end.

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Six Dog | 4 November 2011 - 12:09pm

does pressue cooking stock

Emulsify the fat and mak your stock cloudy and more greasy?

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Chris G | 5 November 2011 - 9:58am

My mum had one too.

She's a great cook, but I remember a succession of Soviet soups being ladled forth from her pressure cooker. They were always un-blended: just stock with some discouraged-looking potatoes and veg floating in it. In theory, quite nice. In practice, the only thing my mum ever put on my plate which I routinely struggled to finish.

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Bob | 4 November 2011 - 11:48am

Stop, stop.

Inedible food your Mum used to make thread starting.

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Twangothan | 4 November 2011 - 12:37pm

Oh God.

Tripe.

*runs to the bog, gagging*

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Vulpes Vulpes | 4 November 2011 - 1:34pm

The mere thought...

...of stuff like tripe and brawn used to be enough to make me emit involuntary heaving sounds. But then I had both, done properly. I don't *love* tripe, but it can be done perfectly nicely. And brawn's yum.

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Bob | 4 November 2011 - 2:49pm

No. No. No.

*crosses Bob off Christmas Card list, removes him from Outlook Contacts*

*gags again*

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Vulpes Vulpes | 4 November 2011 - 4:07pm

My mum made fantastic Oxtail stew

in a pressure cooker. Can you still get oxtail, or is it banned because of BSE?

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renkadima | 4 November 2011 - 12:51pm

Our local Morrisons

Has an excellent meat counter and the butcher always has oxtail in. He'll also order any cut you ask for and it's usually in within 48 hours. Good work for a national chain of supermarkets, especially as we live in a bland satellite town with no independent butchers within a 10 mile radius.

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Six Dog | 4 November 2011 - 1:03pm

There's something to be said for Waitrose meat counter, too.

They're crappy butchers - they're not butchers at all - but often they do have some good "minority" cuts, depending on where you go. I've had shin and ox cheek from the one in Kingston, and they have a decent selection of offal.

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Bob | 5 November 2011 - 12:31pm

There's always talk about not allowing stock to boil.

HF-W is a big one for this. It is utter bollocks.

Heston Blumenthal uses pressure-cookers for stocks. A higher temperature and a closed boil can only mean more extraction, greater protein breakdown and less loss of flavour.

I must get one.

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Lenny Law | 4 November 2011 - 11:06pm

Breast of Lamb

Breast of lamb is absolutely brilliant, slow roasted or casseroled.

If it comes flat, put a layer of your favourite stuffing on, and then roll it up. Whole spuds, root vegetables, rosemary, thyme, loads of black pepper and a mix of stock and red white in the pan.

We buy most of our meat from the farm practically next door. Angus beef, Old Spot pigs, Jacob and Black face lamb. Not organic, but minimal chemicals. They respond to what their customers want, so you can order skirt, shin, whatever.

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GCU Grey Area | 4 November 2011 - 10:16am

Slow cooked lamb special

A winner in our house

1 leg of lamb, about 2kg (or shoulder works)
few tblsp olive oil
2 carrots, sliced
2 onions, sliced
one bottle dry white wine
6-10 cloves of garlic, unpeeled
thyme
bay leaf

- place the lamb in a baking dish and brush with the oil
- add the vegetables and pour over the wine
- marinate for 24 hours, turning when you remember
- preheat oven to 120C
- put some oil in a baking dish and heat, brown the lamb all over
- pour over all the marinade and some stock until it comes half way up the lamb
- place in the oven on low heat and cook, without covering, for 7 hours (or drop the oven temp by 10 degrees and add an hour to the cooking time).
- Serve in its cooking tray.

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Johnny Topaz | 4 November 2011 - 11:47am

So

Any veggie options...? ;)

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Red Umpire | 4 November 2011 - 1:00pm

yep,

a separate thread :)

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niscum | 4 November 2011 - 1:07pm

Ever get the feeling ....

... you're being watched?

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Johnny Topaz | 4 November 2011 - 2:58pm

Beef shin

chopped and in the pot. I paid 15quid for the shin which he then chopped up for me. So lots to experiment with in the freezer.

I am following this 'beef shin soup' recipe. I found it on a google search so not a site I have been to before, honest; http://jesus-is-savior.com/Miscellaneous/Recipes/beef_bone_soup.htm

Looks very nice. I'll be ladelling around 8pm tonight, so will let you know ..

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niscum | 4 November 2011 - 3:08pm

yes

very good. Did some parsnips and carrots to go with it but you could use potatoes or rice. Really tasty. Not a main course on a High Day but more a Boxing day or return from the hunt feast. A chunky soup basically.

Will definitely do again. Pretty much as per the recipe from the jesus link. Praise the Lord.

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niscum | 4 November 2011 - 9:00pm

As husband to a vegetarian wife

... all I can do is look on and drool. I guess I could make some of these just for me and Monteeny, but... well, it's not the same if you're not properly sharing it (and the 2 year-old will, frankly, eat worms, so I wouldn't get the same sense of appreciation).

Now, if we start a South Indian Veg thread - I'm there...

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Uncle Monty | 4 November 2011 - 3:35pm

Pot roast

Has anyone mentioned the humble but utterly delicious pot roast?

Get a nice piece of brisket - cheap cut and very nice cooked this way. Het a stock pot or casserole dish that is somewhat bigger than the joint. It must have a lid.

Put lots of chunky cut vege in - carrot, swede, turnip, celery. . You can add potatoes later. Lay the meat on the vege. Season. Add water or stock. It doesn't matter but unless it's good stock (ie not oxo) use water. I sometimes use a full bodied ale. Chuck in a couple of bay leaves. Put in a low over gas mark 4 - no idea what that is temperature wise. Leave to cook. Takes 4-5 hours depending on the joint. Remove the meant and let it rest. Drain the vege and keep warm. If need be, thicken the liquid to provide a lovely rich sauce/gravy. Serve the meat and vege with mashies and buttered cabbage. Yum. Right...that's winter sorted

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cradlerock | 4 November 2011 - 3:40pm

That's what the French call a Pot Au Feu.

Bloody delicious it is as well. I should do one. They put the shredded cabbage in the pot for the last few minutes.

Dumplings.. Dumplings would be good as well.

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Lenny Law | 4 November 2011 - 11:13pm

red or green?

Red cabbage works too. keep the lid on so the cabbage is steamed and keeps it's colour.

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cradlerock | 6 November 2011 - 12:34pm

pork ribs

Cooked in an aromatic liquour of your choice(something salty soy,sweet brown sugar tomatoes, herby etc) and then roast again for extra stickiness

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Chris G | 5 November 2011 - 10:04am

How have I missed this thread?

Some amazing sounding stuff here; a lot of these recipes will definitely be making their way onto my "new non-kosher kitchen cooking list". Particularly that first one with pork belly and chorizo, wow.

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Hannah | 5 November 2011 - 10:16am

That one sent me scurrying to the freezer

where I remember depositing some pork belly strips a while ago.

I didn't have all the ingredients to hand (although I will try it soon), but the simplicity of the instructions inspired me to chuck the chopped pork belly in to a casserole with onion, garlic, paprika, chorizo, red and green peppers, a tin of chopped toms, a tin of butter beans and a third of a bottle of red wine, and bung it in the oven at 150 for four hours. A handful of fresh coriander went in for the final ten mins, and then it was consumed with a glass of red and a chunk of bread.

Utterly delish!

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renkadima | 5 November 2011 - 1:41pm

I've just been at the freezer door.

Out with the smoked knuckle of pork.

Some yellow split peas have also been put in to soak.

Dinner tommorow will be good.

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Lenny Law | 6 November 2011 - 1:50am

Slow-cooked

belly of lamb - a fatty joint. Cook for at least four hours - throw in some onions and garlic if you please - then pour off the fat and use it to make the best roast potatoes in the world. The fat hardens like your arteries if refrigerated, and can also be used to make fantastic pastry for pies and pasties.

Re. roast potatoes - I now follow Michael Caine's advice (from his Christmas Day "Desert Island Discs" appearance a couple of years back.) Put raw potatoes in with cold oil or fat. This way the potatoes absorb the oil and come out nice and crisp.

Keep a defibrillator on stand-by.

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Wardour | 6 November 2011 - 2:46am

Slow Cooker

I bought a slow cooker the other week and it's been a huge hit in the kitchen. Everything gets chucked in at 8am and as long as I remember to turn the thing on (which I didn't do the first time) there's a cracking dinner ready by 6pm.
I've also bought two chickens but that's for another thread.

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McLongWhiteCloud | 6 November 2011 - 3:07am

better than

a pressure cooker?

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niscum | 6 November 2011 - 11:52am

.

I reckon so but I've been put off Pressure Cookers ever since my mum's took out half our kitchen back in the 70s.
In other news I've just bought half a pig (not sure which half) so will be experimenting with pork-based slow cook recipes between now and Christmas.

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McLongWhiteCloud | 7 November 2011 - 10:05pm

I already have a slow cooker.

No, not Mme. Foxy, who only spends time in the kitchen to wash and soap horse tack in the big sink, no, I'm talking about my tagine.

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Vulpes Vulpes | 7 November 2011 - 2:02pm
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