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Significant Life Event - The age of the cassette tape

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Yesterday we were "clearing" the bedroom cupboards of all those old boxes and bits and bobs that get stuffed into wardrobes. I was tasked with "doing something about" the box full of cassette tapes (home made and pre recorded) that had been toppling over every time someone opened the door.

I couldn't believe it was me who slung about 95% of them into the bin. Aside from a few family recordings, all my tapes that I made by recording the top forty on a Sunday afternoon about thirty years ago were discarded, along with any pre-recorded tapes that I had collected over a ten year period.

This was a major major reaction that has clearly been aided by my participation in Spotify (not to mention I tunes). I have absolutely not done the same with my vinyl collection and nor am I likely too. Clearly, the age of the cassette tape is not in the same ball park as Vinyl.

Anyone else taken this step recently, or thinking of doing it?

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Can't bring myself to do it

I am more sentimental about tapes than vinyl as that was what I grew up with.

I can't throw out all the mixtapes I made, or cassette albums that I long since replaced on CD. I can't throw out the copied albums with painstakingly drawn band logos.

They've all still got the dents from my pencil case banging against them in my school bag.

I love tapes

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Chimney Singing... | 23 February 2009 - 2:42pm

have you got a tape player?

they sound rubbish though, the old radio records i have of peel session many of them run fast or slow or are warped and crackly I thought about transfering them to mp3 but they sound so bad.

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Chris G | 23 February 2009 - 2:46pm

No

I haven't got a tape player anymore.

I think of them as secret hidden ornaments

My secret shame

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Chimney Singing... | 23 February 2009 - 2:56pm

Wow!

I did ALMOST the exact same thing yesterday (except I didn't throw mine out)! Finally got around to hooking my cassette deck up again and went into the loft to retrieve my pre-recorded version of the first Lone Justice album (see earlier thread). Probably got about a 100 tapes in a box and although I have several of them on vinyl/CD I can't really see myself chucking them out! Although that may change as I'm moving soon and the thought of having to box up the rest of my music/movie collection is already beginning to stress me out!

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grac | 23 February 2009 - 2:46pm

Chucked 'em all away.......

The vast majority were record library filches with nearly a record on each side of a C90, often with no relation between side 1 and side 2. Quality poor, reproducibility absent, replacement of any worth performed, mainly, it is true, courtesy limescale, in the days when I did, based on my "logic" that I "owned" a version already. Did the same with videos. Tried to flog off my vinyl, but Mrs Path refused to let me, appreciating what strange worth I place in round plastic, both black and shiny. Thanks, Darling.

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Retropath2 | 23 February 2009 - 3:28pm

Still have a box full of tapes

Almost as mad as a box full of frogs because I don't have a tape player anymore.

And yet all my vinyl went to charity and friends.

Those little cassettes, my first copy of so many albums was on cassette, back in the days when home taping was killing music....

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SimonL | 23 February 2009 - 3:59pm

Only two weeks ago

Only two weeks ago I slung out, with very few exceptions, the lot.

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Danmac | 23 February 2009 - 4:28pm

About 5 years ago

I decided to car boot my collection of 300+ pre-recorded tapes because the CD had taken over. I must have picked the right time, because I sold the lot in about an hour, even really dodgy 80's stuff like Hue and Cry. Didn't make a huge amount of money but it did lessen the pain. Truth is, the cassette was a compromise - portable but very fragile and susceptible to damage. It was replaced because the CD was a better invention. Vinyl of course will hang on for a while longer because in some respects the sound has not been bettered.

The only tape I missed was Motive by Red Box. It only had a limited release on CD so I never found a replacement until recently, thanks to the miracles of BitTorrent.

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Andrew Bradley | 23 February 2009 - 7:38pm

Martin

Their drummer Martin is a mate of mine! Red Box I mean.

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Twangothan | 23 February 2009 - 8:49pm

I'm with Chimmers.

Love cassettes. The MP3 of the eighties. Cheap as chips, easy to make, and portable. I still have my old Sony Walkman, in the back of the wardrobe somewhere; it's a design classic.

While doing the student thing in Bristol back in the 80s I used to cycle to the public library on a Saturday morning and pick up a handful of albums from the music section. You could order stuff in if they didn't have it! When it arrived you got first borrow, or in my case, first taping. By teatime I'd have committed twenty quid's worth of pristine vinyl to TDK SA90, cycled back to the library, returned the first lot and borrowed another half dozen. Over a period of about a year my music collection killed music to the extent of three shelves full of tapes. I catalogued the lot in a little letter-edged note book from WHSmiths, and I still have both the tapes and the index notebook. Despite acres of vinyl and three walls of CDs, I still have a very soft spot for my cassettes.

Someone elsewhere on another thread mentioned those albums that have long since been deleted on vinyl, yet never issued on CD. Guess what? I've got most of them on SA90.

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Vulpes Vulpes | 23 February 2009 - 7:59pm

Chucked hundreds

a few years back and have regretted it many times since. Not for the ones with albums on, but for the mixtapes. I wish I could reproduce them in iTunes, but it's too late! :-(

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ChaosandMorphine | 23 February 2009 - 7:59pm

I had about 50 tapes

stored away in a box in the attic of our old house, i hadn't listened to any of them for years. So when about 7 years ago we moved to our new house, I hid them away in a dusty corner of the loft, and left them there.

I like to think of the new owners of the house, exploring the loft and thinking they have discovered some treasure. Bet they chucked them out.

As you can probably see, was never a great fan of the cassette.

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Mint | 23 February 2009 - 11:32pm

I'm such a hoarder......

.that I've kept most of my cassettes. I've stuff like Alan Freeman Shows, Great Easton Express (Radio City Rock Show, Phil Easton sadly passed away a couple of weeks ago), Johnnie Walker Show etc.

They're like photographs for memories, I dated them all.

I'm so sad, I've still got reel to reel tapes of things like Alexis Korner, done by putting the mike right by an old vhf radio we had.

They sound tosh, but memory wise, they are priceless.

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anythingcanhappen | 24 February 2009 - 12:53am

Shoeboxes

Stuffed with cassettes. Some totally unwanted and binned. Many put on one side to copy onto computer thanks to new-fangled cassette-2-USB-socket-thingy. Oh such joy!

So far I have a half-hour session by a very young daughter from 20+ years ago, a trailer for a John Peel show with the man and Walters doing an Archers sketch during the Alan Freeman show and a personal message from Tom Champagne (as personal as the Hepworth letter for subscribers).

In the pipeline; a whole box of Kenny Everett shows on Radio 2, old Round The Horne segments, Todd Rundgren in Concert on Radio 1 and the entire series of SFX magazines - I promise to post the interview with Andy Partridge where he imitates the characters from Space Patrol.

I might not see the summer sun this year I fear.

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Beany | 24 February 2009 - 12:16am

Fluff etc

I'd forgotten about the Andy Partridge stuff. I'll have to dig it out too. There was some hilarious stuff on Radio 1 from him.

Peel and Walters were on great form on the last Freeman show too.

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anythingcanhappen | 24 February 2009 - 12:55am

how much are these cassette-to-usb things?

sound great! i MUST get one of those.

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sandamiano | 24 February 2009 - 3:50am

Cheap

The ones I've seen (by ION I think) are really cheap. Surely the question should be, considering this is the last time you'll ever play the cassettes in question, what's the sound quality like? If you already have a decent cassette deck why not get an external USB sound card like the ones that Creative do and set up a semi permanent system with an old laptop.

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JohnW | 24 February 2009 - 8:36am

A couple of hundred cassettes

still languish in boxes and will be cleared out at some point (If Mrs Phil has her way). Like VV above our local library was a good source of material despite the scratches and occasional blobs of jam stuck to the vinyl's surface. All recordings were cherished, numbered and catalogued on index cards.

In reality I guess there will be many recordings that will never be worth keeping. BASF tape always seemed to leave a layer of ferric particles over the tape head each time they were played so by now any of those would have probably disintegrated completely. The ones worth keeping will be gigs recorded from the radio (Genesis, '76; Yes, '78 etc).

What could be more interesting is an even older reel to reel collection which apart from scary recordings of me aged 4ish also includes the Milligan, Sellars, Miller & Cook skit - Bridge over the River Wye. I just hope the aged machine will work long enough to get them digitised!

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Phil Pirrip | 24 February 2009 - 10:16am

The Genesis and Yes shows

from the Friday Rock Show are freely available on the Interwebs. I grabbed 'em in FLAC only a few weeks ago

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stimpy | 24 February 2009 - 3:17pm

Thanks Stimpy

That's one less job to do. Any pointers as to where?

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Phil Pirrip | 25 February 2009 - 9:19am
stimpy | 26 February 2009 - 6:09pm

Ta muchly!

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Phil Pirrip | 26 February 2009 - 6:25pm

They're artifacts!

I'm a bit baffled about the number of people that keep their cassettes in boxes etc. What's wrong with shelves?! If Mrs JW can put her ornaments on shelves then so can I!

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JohnW | 24 February 2009 - 1:48pm

Wall space and tranportability

I see where you're coming from - how about boxes on shelves? These aren't any old cornflake boxes from the local supermarket but a combination of fake leather attaché cases with handles and Habitat box file types in not unpleasant blue or green. It was either that or storing them in piles on the floor where any semblance of order, and indeed the cases, would disintegrate rapidly.

Furthermore, from an aesthetic point of view, the random abstraction of colours from books, 12" sleeves or CD cases present a pleasing artwork, unlike a stack of handwritten insert cards stuffed into plastic boxes that just look naff.

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Phil Pirrip | 24 February 2009 - 3:20pm

You're all clearly bonkers....

I HATED tapes...they were a tool of the devil. A necessary evil to make music portable.

The frustration of trying press "pause" in exactly the right spot, the wrist shredding necessity of rewinding spooled tapes with a biro; the poor sound quality - even my Amstrad hifi turntable delivered a better sound that anything on a TDK or That's Metal finest could muster - without going on to mention the stretching and wowing, the snapping, the picking bits of tape out of the heads...tapes were just plain WRONG, 8 track was the, albeit pricier, way ahead. I did somersaults when the mini-disc came along!

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Six Dog | 24 February 2009 - 2:37pm

I have to confess that

Having started this thread, I am fully aware that the cassettes I've "binned" are currently sitting in my garage. The bin men come on Thursday.

The question is, will I have a change of heart before then? Imagine my dilemma, especially now I've heard so many examples from you all of exactly how ingrained the cassette tape is in our culture!

I will be strong! (but I might have one more sort through just in case a few more require salvaging!)

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Martin Simmonds | 24 February 2009 - 3:06pm

The Hepworth Tapes

I have a series of cassettes of music I compiled from recordings I made of David Hepworth's GLR radio shows in the 90s. Despite the inherent limitations in the tape sound quality I still enjoy listening to them occasionally - they are pretty eclectic.

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Michaelincognito | 24 February 2009 - 3:46pm

Rubbish quality...

Afraid I chucked all mine out when downsizing - they were all sounding really crummy plus I don't have a cassette deck any more anyway. Actually I threw out all my vinyl at the same time, they were all scratched to hell as well. What's the point? Move on!

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Jayhawk | 24 February 2009 - 4:53pm

CHUCKED 'EM

F*ck 'em, chucked the lot 3 years ago when i realised that I have quality sound considerations in my music taste too, didnt want badly warped or stetched music, unless i was listening to Aphex Twin!

Cassettes, the worst invention since cassettes....

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über-über | 24 February 2009 - 4:58pm

the holiday house is the last refuge of the cassette

assuming you have access to said abode take em down there. Buy a ghetto blaster that still plays tapes and you will be surprised how good a lot of them sound.

even better plug into a stereo via the headphone socket and rca leads into the amp .

I wonder how many people decrying cassettes listen to MP3 format on their ipod or through their sound system via itunes MP3s rather than lossless formats

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Junior Wells | 25 February 2009 - 3:37am

It seems odd

but there are a lot of Massive members (oo-er matron) who seem to have suffered from crap tape deck syndrome in the past. I'm still using the mid-to-high range JVC deck I bought in 1982 as a feed to the PC for cassette based material, and the big f-off Yamaha I bought about 6 or 7 years ago as part of the main living room system. Even cassette recordings I made 20 years ago still sound damn fine. I never used anything less than an SA90 blank, and I always took the time to do the levels properly. I've even been known to adjust azimuth settings. I suspect that with tape based systems, you really did get what you paid for.

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Vulpes Vulpes | 25 February 2009 - 9:05pm

3+3

3 fully working decks here, 2 semi functional, 1 dead, all stereo with a mixture of Dolby B+C+S. Maybe it's my BFO! Yamaha amp but pretty much everything from 96k mp3s to old BASF Chromdioxid C90s sound great.

I still love cassettes

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James Blast | 25 February 2009 - 10:25pm

Torpor

I have hundreds in specially made drawers that I never open. I have a £300 when new Nakamichi Cassette Deck (not currently wired into the amp) and probably now worth £25 on eBay. I can play tapes in the car but don't.

I can't bring myself to throw them away or sell the deck for such a pitiful amount of money.

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Neil Jung | 26 February 2009 - 6:26pm

Old Nakamichis

I recently binned a Nakamichi Dragon (cost £1200 20 years ago) because no-one thought it worth the £20 to replace a drive belt :-(

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stimpy | 26 February 2009 - 6:36pm
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