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Scaring the living...outta me

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Pick an option. This woman is either :

a) an incredibly sophisticated and nuanced performance artist, satirising the idiocy and intolerance of the religious right wing of the US and making us see the utter risibility of the hate spewed by extremism

b) A pathetic deluded wakko who really does believe this stuff, in which case, by her own twisted logic, she herself should burn eternally in the hell she seems to spend a great deal of time rhapsodising about sending innocent people to.

Stuff like this truly scares the living shit out of me. What kind of screwed up world have we managed to create?

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Tricky, isn't it?

The problem with theory A is that the person using death and disaster to score cheap points is no less reprehensible than the loony Godist in theory B.

If it's not a cruel spoof, maybe it's a combination of the loss of perspective that comes with blind worship, and the lack of editorial control over what gets published and how far and how fast it is distributed.

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Captain Underpants | 14 March 2011 - 7:26pm

My instinct says it's a spoof

but Poe's Law always interferes with that:

“Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is impossible to create a parody of fundamentalism that someone won't mistake for the real thing.”

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Cadabra | 14 March 2011 - 7:27pm

It may be impossible to determine the motive

But the person is real and the fact that she's taken the time to put this up is, to my mind, a little bit heartbreaking.

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STD | 14 March 2011 - 7:36pm

If it's b) then

people like this have been around for as long as religion. It's not a phenomenon of modern times for this kind of opinion to be expressed in this way.

You shouldn't be scared though. That's fuel for people like this.

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Ahh_Bisto | 14 March 2011 - 7:38pm

She doesn't scare me

as such, what does scare me is that this is an altogether too common outlook on the world and that the world is such a sick and sad place.

I look at my daughter now, who's seven, and I try to teach her to be curious and look at the world in an open-hearted way, but I fear for the world she'll grow up in. It makes me sad and I wonder whether the planet is probably better off without us, the virus with shoes, as the late, great Bill Hicks once called humanity.

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illuminatus | 14 March 2011 - 10:15pm

*sigh*

See my rage elsewhere about why this saddens me so much.

Words sometimes fail me. I think STD sums it up well - truly heartbreaking.

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badger_king | 14 March 2011 - 7:52pm

If it is fake...

If it is fake, she's been doing it for a long while: there's almost a years worth of these things. I've had a flick through and her first video is about a job interview (no mention of religion), but the rest appears to be stuff like this. You question her sanity either way. Grim.

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kidpresentable | 14 March 2011 - 7:59pm

Not fake

Deluded and fucked up it may be but I'm sure she is sincere. To refer to Japan as an atheist nation takes a very particular kind of religious delusion. 119 million shinto may beg to differ with her.

Why is it that Christianity seems to have the market cornered on proselytisers?

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MyAmericanMate | 14 March 2011 - 8:09pm

I have changed my mind

I thought it was real. I'd put money on it being a troll now.

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BigJimBob | 14 March 2011 - 8:16pm

What makes you say that

Bob?

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MyAmericanMate | 14 March 2011 - 8:20pm

A bit of gooogling

shows the woman posting as Sister Pamela Thompson on Landover Baptist net, eg. see here:

http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=47939

used to be known as tamtampamela. This is a satire site. I have their Landover Baptist Sunday school gun-club teeshirt.

Update. This clip is on her Youtube channel as a favorite:

http://www.youtube.com/user/tamtampamela#p/f/46/QD-PB7V5nIg

Conclusion: she is a Troll, a very good one, who is now in some trouble, if that really IS her address being flashed up all over the tinternet.

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BigJimBob | 14 March 2011 - 10:52pm

Nice one

and you got the t-shirt.

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MyAmericanMate | 14 March 2011 - 11:00pm

kerching

you are a troll too, eh ;-)

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BigJimBob | 14 March 2011 - 11:28pm

Doesn't sound very nice

what you mean by that?

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MyAmericanMate | 15 March 2011 - 1:48pm

A shame

A mentally ill young girl with sincere but rather offensive views. 20 years ago people like her would have been the 'manic street preacher' getting funny looks off passers-by, but thanks to Web 2.0 she has a worldwide platform.

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Spartacus Mills | 14 March 2011 - 8:19pm

Sorry, I disagree. If you

Sorry, I disagree.

If you look at the recent disasters - Haiti, and 9/11 even - and then look at the comments of (amongst others):
Glenn Beck
Pat Robertson
Jerry Falwell

You will see that they aren't of the "MSP" variety, and not reliant on the web. 20 years ago the last two were people with significant national platforms in the USA.

If she is sincere, then that woman speaks for a significant minority in America.

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sitheref2409 | 14 March 2011 - 8:29pm

My initial reaction was blind rage.

But seriously. This young woman mentions hell a few times without realising that she is there, now. What is she, seventeen or something? We're all confused when we're that young, we're all rubbish at thinking properly. Most of us are at an advantage, though, because we know we're confused. She thinks she's certain, and her certainty has bent her moral compass like a pretzel. It's really sad. She's deeply, deeply unwell.

It doesn't make me angry, except at the people who've allowed her to get to this point. It doesn't make me scared, particularly - people this extreme aren't likely to get a mainstream political platform, not even Palin. It makes me sad.

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Bob | 14 March 2011 - 8:36pm

"incredibly sophisticated and nuanced"?

I hope to fuck she's not:

a) Another one of those 'brave', 'risk-taking' 'transgressive' comics. I'm talking about the type who, when poking fun at religion, show how courageous they are by picking on a branch (in this Christianity) that doesn't have much of a recent track record for, oh, off the top of my head ... issuing fatwas on writers, killing film-makers, blowing up infidels ... y'know, that sort of thing.
I guess to satirise a religion with followers who did things like that would be in rather bad taste. No, it's much more 'cutting-edge' to stick it to those loony Christians.

But thankfully, it's more likely that this woman is:

b) A nutter who probably needs professional help.

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DC Eisenhower | 14 March 2011 - 8:36pm

She is a Christian

who has taken her belief in her God to it's absolute level, fundamentalism if you like. It's not far removed from the seven virgin promise that supposedly encouraged the 9/11 suicide squad. Religion has immense power for good, it has immense power for bad. I'm off to Tesco for a chocolate pudding and some beer.

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Dave Amitri | 14 March 2011 - 8:43pm

Don't forget

to look at the clouds on your way.

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Ahh_Bisto | 14 March 2011 - 9:14pm

I have family members

Intelligent, well educated and yes good people on the whole. But even though we get on we never discuss the fact that I'm not religious, a very lapsed Catholic to make matters worse (they see themselves as rebels against the established corrupt church). I've lived in sin, had casual sex, taken drugs and I have gay friends. They are family and I love them, but their branch of Born Again Christianity is so against my life that I wouldn't be able to be friends with them if I wasn't related. As it is it's difficult to cope with sometimes. Especially when they describe homosexuality as an illness that can be cured by prayer, or that the current troubles wouldn't have happened if people only believe in God.

Just to expand on the types of people they are, they are educated to degree level, one is a teacher, and the others all hold high ranking jobs in the fields they are in. They are not stupid ignorant people, but in a lot of instances they are completely blinded by their beliefs.

And the church they see themselves as part of has the pulling power to sell out large venues like Wembley Arena on a regular basis. These kind of views are not those of unwell people, these are normal people who are more than likely working alongside some of you on these boards, living next door, walking down the aisle of the Tescos that Dave Amitri featured the other day.

Don't underestimate fundamentalism as the beliefs of ignorant or unwell.

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SimonL | 14 March 2011 - 8:54pm

What's the minimum percentage...

... of God-fearing people in a society, to ensure that everything basically goes OK, do you reckon?

I've often wondered that, and wanted to ask a fundamentalist of any stripe. Because in the 14th Century, pretty much everyone believed in God, and yet, y'know, The Black Death. Whereas a mere financial meltdown and a couple of big bastard earthquakes in 2011 is kind of an improvement on that, disaster-wise. And yet, fewer believers. Weird.

I wouldn't mention that to your family, Simon. :D

BTW, DC Eisenhower, please don't trot out the "liberals criticise any religion but Islam" trope. It's simply not true.

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Bob | 14 March 2011 - 9:04pm

really?

"It's simply not true".

Of course, you'll have tons of evidence to that back that assertion up. I'd imagine there must be hundreds of sketches, skits, diatribes, anti-Islamist rants etc.

I look forward to checking them out.

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DC Eisenhower | 15 March 2011 - 12:03am

Exhibit A

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Spartacus Mills | 15 March 2011 - 12:06am

Top of my head

"Four Lions"
Family Guy
Bill Bailey in Part Troll
Shappi Khorsandi
Aasif Mandvi
Mock The Week
HIGNFY
Shazia Mirza
Stewart Lee.

That took me about 2 minutes of brain-rifling. These are not obscure acts or people. It happens. Comics take the piss out of islamism all the time.

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Bob | 15 March 2011 - 1:27am

You put it well

People do become blinded by their beliefs - even to the point where the Christianity of today starts to drastically contradict the Bible.

I'll give you a classic / obvious one - if people truly followed the Bible there'd be no denominations within the church, as there's a bit in Ephesians about bearing with one another with love and peace. Not blindly accepting or condemning, "bearing with". So good on you, Simon for not rising to their small minded provocation.

And for the record, I'm a Christian, and have been since I was 12. I wasn't indoctrinated. I made my own mind up. And having looked at the Bible a fair bit, I'm fairly sure that homosexuality CAN'T be cured by prayer - because it isn't an illness, its not social conditioning, its not evolution, its something else. And believing current troubles are because its more of an atheist age are as you say, piffle, if you look back through history (and theology) supposedly Christian people have done some abominable things (witch trials, Spanish inquisition, executions, etc), and more frequently, abominable things have been done TO Christians. Just take the 12 Apostles - apart from John they all died in appalling ways (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostles#Death_of_the_Twelve_Apostles). That's what happens if you really believe in God.

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badger_king | 15 March 2011 - 10:09am

Good lad

I've always liked the idea of believe what you want, but don't stop others doing the same.

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illuminatus | 15 March 2011 - 12:06pm

I'm scared

- because if it is a 'skit' (or indeed if it's real) someone has just posted her real name and address in the Youtube comments.

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badartdog | 14 March 2011 - 10:31pm

Oh shit.

That is terrible. As damaged, nutty and offensive as she is, no-one deserves to have their address posted on YouTube.

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Bob | 14 March 2011 - 10:40pm

The comments

The comments have been rocketing up by the thousands all night. It has, as the kids might put it, "gone viral".

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kidpresentable | 15 March 2011 - 2:46am

I've just clicked

on the embedded clip in the OP and it says

This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by LaughAloneTV

20 minutes ago LaughAloneTV twittered:

We do not have any affiliation with TAMTAMPAMELA her video was claimed by mistake and when we tried to fix she had already closed her acc.

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Ahh_Bisto | 15 March 2011 - 9:54am

How do I find this?

It's been taken down.

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ganglesprocket | 15 March 2011 - 10:10am

It's been re-posted here:

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kidpresentable | 15 March 2011 - 10:37am

Thank you Kid.

Now watching.

Have just watched. I can't be bothered doing the work that BigJimBob did, but as it ended I started to think "Troll."

However that may be my atheistic bias speaking here, me being unable to believe that anyone actually thinks like this really. As someone else posted people like Falwell, Robertson and Beck have said some truly distasteful things following natural disasters in the past. This is just as likely to be someone foreshadowing an offensive statement from a religious loon, prior to one taking place.

However without the offensive statement itself to satirize, you just have a load of old drivel.

The logic hurts. Maybe she is just "some nutcase." If so then I feel sorry for her. Her life must be awful.

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ganglesprocket | 15 March 2011 - 10:50am

And the correct answer is...

...(a) (Although she comes across more self-centered, smug attention seeker than super-intelligent master of satirical wit)

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tommyknocker | 15 March 2011 - 12:05pm

Oh dear

Silly girl.

So she tries trolling and tries to do option a), but without the wit really (at least rather less than I'd given her credit for in my OP). And then is surprised by the fact that people 'got pissed off' by it, at least more than she expected.

You'd think she'd know what teh Interwebs is like by now, wouldn't you?

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illuminatus | 15 March 2011 - 12:14pm

You would think...

She's like a naughty child being forced to apologise for something, but doesn't really think she's done anything wrong. Not sure what the pizza reference is about though...

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tommyknocker | 15 March 2011 - 12:52pm

I suspect

she's been ringing out for pizza a lot as she probably hasn't been able to poke her head around the front door. Serves her right, really.

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illuminatus | 15 March 2011 - 1:02pm

D'oh!

I see now. That should've been one of those lateral thinking thingies.

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tommyknocker | 15 March 2011 - 1:18pm

Nope...

....it was because her Florida address and phone number were posted all over the net.

It seems everyone and their dog was phoning up to get pizza delivered to her.

Hehehe....yep, it serves her right.

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bigsteviecook | 15 March 2011 - 1:25pm

Either way

there's something karmically quite satisfying about that, isn't there?

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illuminatus | 15 March 2011 - 4:57pm

Funnily enough

I was at a Christening on Sunday and the minister went for a similar theme. Pretty inappropriate for the occasion. Afterwards he was asking us all if he'd managed to convert us. I was quite shocked that this sort of preaching still went on, I thought it was going to be the usual C&E 'do you believe in God oh no never mind have some cake'

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Chimney Singing... | 15 March 2011 - 12:34pm

Really?

How shocking. If God *was* grabbing Japan by it's shoulders and giving it a shake, it's a shame he nudged Christchurch with his elbow in passing isn't it.
That's Christ Church. They aetheists too, are they?

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badartdog | 15 March 2011 - 1:50pm

100% Troll

http://uk.kotaku.com/5782029/this-woman-just-trolled-the-entire-internet

The scary thing is that it is so believable. With bishops and pastors saying that, for example, the New Orleans disaster or Haiti was god's punishment.

It may have been a parody/satire but no doubt there are people who do think like that.

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Skuds | 15 March 2011 - 6:57pm

I know

there's no god - last night I saw a clip on the One Show where Burt Bacharach had produced Ronan Keating's new album.

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KDH | 15 March 2011 - 7:49pm

Satan Lives

but he has a perverse sense of humour. He dangles such talent in front of Ronan Keating, who has no prospect of ever having any.

Evil, isn't he?

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illuminatus | 15 March 2011 - 11:05pm
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