Rock Goes To College - Philosophy.
It doesn't seem to happen so often today - but there was a period when Rock and Pop lyricists would get themselves frowny browed and airy headed after indulging in extended periods of pondering, beard stroking and tangling with philosophical knots and theological tangles.
The end result being concerned clucks, cod philosophy, home made (and typically ham fisted) mini mantras and motivational motifs that would have caused Patience Strong to wince an eye and fire up the shredder. Theories, thesis and tittle tattle on topics like..
Multiculturalism
"Ebony and Ivory live together in perfect harmony Side by side on my piano keyboard, Oh lord, why don't we"
Global conflict
"War is stupid, and people are stupid, and love means nothing in some strange quarters"
Stoicism
"You can't always get what you want, but if you try sometimes you just might find You get what you need"
"Don't worry be happy"
So.. does anyone else have any quotes to add to ‘Rock and Pop Book of Philosophy'
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Nihilism
"No future".
Sexuality
GIRLS WHO ARE BOYS
WHO LIKE BOYS TO BE GIRLS
WHO DO BOYS LIKE THEY'RE GIRLS
WHO DO GIRLS LIKE THEY'RE BOYS
ALWAYS SHOULD BE SOMEONE YOU REALLY LOVE
Existentialism meets semiotics
Some say a man ain't happy, truly
Until a man truly dies
Oh why, oh why
Sign o' the times
I'm not sure what the 'ism' is but
"It ain't what you do, it's the way that you do it"
Quoted for Truth (sic)
"Unrequited love is just a step from chronic masturbation"
Half full half biscuit
"There is nothing better in life
Than writing on the sole of your slipper with a biro
On a Saturday night
Instead of going to the pub."
Sting muses on the likelihood of human perpetuity...
Hey mighty brontosaurus
Don't you have a message for us.
You thought your rule would always last
There were no lessons in your past.
You were built three stories high
They say you would not hurt a fly
If we explode the atom bomb,
Would they say that we were dumb.
Good, and indeed, grief.
By Sting, aged 8.
I've often had to mark this kind of rubbish from children, but from them it's acceptable, and they don't earn millions.
(Have to share my favourite example - in a poem about Father Christmas delivering presents: "Oh dear, we haven't got enough / We'll have to miss out Brian Clough." Hands off, Sting!)
Sting and Bono
Twaddle Dee and Twaddle Dum
Sting
With all the discussions about reappraisals on here surely its time---nah forget it.
On the subject of Mr: Policeman
"Do the Russians love their children too .?"
Do you love your children ? Does Sting ? Do his parents love him ?
Wasn't it Stiff Records...
that came up with the classic "Fuck art, let's dance."?
probably...
When madness were touring in 2006, they were selling t-shirts with that very slogan on them. Of course I bought one.
Of course i've also not had much of the nerve to wear it that much either. Not much cop as a dancer, me, see!
Reflections On The Afterlife
"I don't want to see a ghost,
It's the sign that I fear most
I'd rather have a piece of toast"
Des'ree
I wouldn't mind,
but I just posted those lyrics in a thread about crap lyrics...
Oh the humanity...
Julian Cope said it best, I feel.
"People I see, just remind me of moo-ing like a cow on the grass,
but that's not to say
That there's anything wrong with being a cow anyway,
but people are people,
with the added advantage of the spoken word,
we're getting on fine,
but I feel more of a man when I get with the herd"
Mr Bolan...
said..
What's it like to be a loon?
I liken it to a balloon!
Wise words mate!
I'm A Big Fan Of Bolan
But I may have to start digging for other clunkers in the catalogue
Crap couplets a go-go
Bopping down by the whirlpool
I met a girl; she was God's tool
- "Beltane Walk"
Hiding in the road
Like a Pasolini toad
Gonna give up all my load
- "Chariot Choogle"
You're a tie-dyed statuette
'Cause you dance the minuet
- "Savage Beethoven"
. . . and on and on. (And I'm a big fan of Bolan too.)
Bolan deep
You're gonna look fine
With you lizard leather boots on
You pull the strings that control the faces of men
then something about Alan Freed knowing then John Lennon knowing---
"Ballrooms of Mars"
Brilliant actually!!
All you need to know about life
10cc say
Life is a minestrone
Served up with parmesan cheese
Death is a cold Lasagne
Suspended in deep freeze
Elton John says
Life isn't everything, isn't everything
and Opus say
Life is life
Elton
Did Elton get Bernie Taupin's help with that one?
Just looked that one up
It was called Song for Guy about someone he knew who had just died. Didn't realise that. Oops.
History according to Professor Morrissey
As Anthony said to Cleopatra, as he opened a crate of ale,
Oh I say...
What we need is a great big melting pot
Big enough to take the world and all it's got
Keep it stirring for a hundred years or more
and turn out coffee-coloured people by the score.
However...
If everybody looked the same...we'd get tired of looking at each other.
Greenaway and Cook
Blue Mink with the ace Madeline Bell.
And so soon after our recent ABBA reappraisal!
The Hollies! White Plains! Whistling Jack Smith! David and Jonathan! And many more!
Bring it on! Where's me Oxford Bags and kipper tie?
While we're at it
Surely this is an ideal moment to get Mickey Most reinstated as a Thoroughly Good Thing. This was one of the greatest riffs/intros in the history of pop:
Aw heck!
Let's hear it for Chinn and Chapman too...
Now they are worthy of recognition
Chinn and Chapman I mean.
Reappraisal of Abba?
Haven't they been highly regarded as purveyors of classic pop for some time now?
Marxism
- 'Skank Bloc Bologna' by Scritti Politti. Amongst loads of other isms, including ones I'm sure Green made up.
Uncorrected Personality Traits...
The title says it all for this Robyn Hitchcock masterpiece if you want psychological theory:
Uncorrected personality traits that seem whimsical in a child may prove to be ugly in a fully grown adult.
Lack of involvement with the father,
or over-involvement with the mother,
can result in lack of ability to relate to sexual fears,
and in homosexual leanings, narcissism, transexuality (girls from the waist up/men from the waist down),
attempts to be your own love object.
Reconcile your parents to you by becoming both at once!
Even Marilyn Monroe was a man, but this tends to get overlooked by our mother-fixated, overweight, sexist media.
So:
Uncorrected personality traits that seem whimsical in a child may prove to be ugly in a fully grown adult.
If you give in to them every time they cry
They will become little tyrants but they won't remember why
Then when they are thwarted by people in later life
They will become psychotic and they won't make an ideal husband or wife
The spoiled baby grows into the escapist teenager who's
the adult alcoholic who's the middle-aged suicide. (Oy.)
So:
Uncorrected personality traits that seem whimsical in a child may prove to be ugly in a fully grown adult.
The code of the Samurai
1. In Watching The Wildlife, Frankie Goes To Hollywood frontman Holly Johnson advocates a way of life which has value in and of itself:
"If you live by the sword
well that's your own reward."
However the lyrics for Relax teach us that such swordsmanship requires technique and discipline. One cannot simply go waving one's sword around willy-nilly.
2. The La's Lee Mavers on the importance of a good breakfast for promoting mental agility:
"On this street for knowledge
You must eat your porridge"
3. The Cranberries' Dolores O'Riordan uses Bosnia as a contemporary example of the socio-political ills of the world, while also experimenting with mixed tenses:
"I would like to state my vision
life was so unfair
We live in our secure surroundings
And people die out there."
America's dim witted foreign policy
"Wooly Bully, Wooly Bully"
"Wooly Bully"
Love is all around
"It only takes a minute, girl, to fall in love"
on the other hand, one could say that
"Love doesn't come in a minute, sometimes it doesn't come at all"
Confusing, n'est ce pas?
Indeed
Irrespective of the actual lyricist concerned.....
"Time is on my side" vs "Time waits for no-one".....
The difference a few years make, but who'd of thought the first statement may have carried better. I guess it depends from whose point of view.
(Late late shout for Mick Taylors Santana-esque solo in the latter, nearly cut out entirely by the Glimmer twins, I gather, were it not for Charlie: uncertain as to veracity of this, but as told me, years ago, by Charlies erstwhile next door neighbour, in Lewes, Sussex.)
repetition
I've just posted the same thing in the Best opening lines bit, but Nick Cave, Into your arms, "I don't believe in an interventionist God..." Start the theological debate now.
PS He also doubts the existence of Angels...
Future dream, a shopping scheme
... placing Mr Rotten in the great empirical tradition of British philospohy since it was right on the money ... (and all the moreso for Manchester airport which is a soulless mall with planes attached)
Solipsism
Robbie Williams' entire solo career...