Rock Follies

moby grape
Recently been listening to some Moby Grape, and recalled that, according to the booklet for their best of CD, they had a lot go wrong for them, preventing them making it really big. One particularly daft idea was to release five singles at once off their fine debut, an idea that, not surprisingly, back-fired.

Another example of a dumb idea, thought amusingly anarchic by some of those involved (though maybe not at the time), was to make New Order's cover for 12" single Blue Monday so expensive that it cost more to produce than could be re-couped by sales.

I wonder what other examples there are of misguided decisions on the part of bands, their management, or record company, that had disastrous consequences whether in a minor or major way...

Let's go to NY

Must be Brinsley Schwarz. My mate Wicky Peter he say:
Brinsley Schwarz signed a contract with manager Dave Robinson, who developed a plan to earn the band some publicity. They were to open for Van Morrison at the Fillmore East in New York City, and Robinson would fly all the leading British rock critics to the show so they could review it. Though the band had planned on leaving a few days early so they could rehearse, visa problems prevented this and they arrived in New York right before they were to begin. The critics' plane was delayed for four hours, and they arrived at the show either drunk or hung over. The show did not go over well, and the band received a flood of negative reviews over the course of the next few weeks.

adze thuggery | 3 February 2008 - 5:47pm

For further info...

...see Will Birch's excellent and hilarious book "No Sleep Till Canvey Island".
It's the story of pub rock, Stiff Records and much more. Where else can you find tales of Nick Lowe, Paul McCartney AND Omar Sharif in one tome?
Cheers
Alex

Alex | 5 February 2008 - 3:43pm

Dexys

Where to start ?

- Statements in music press instead of interviews;

- No singles from follow-up album to multi-million seller;

- And much later, appearing dressed in suspenders!

Johan | 3 February 2008 - 6:40pm

How about the classic half-baked decision

by a bunch of blues chancers, or more accurately their rottweiler of a manager, not to issue any UK singles AT ALL.

Tossers.

Hang on, I'll remember their name in a mo'....

Vulpes Vulpes | 3 February 2008 - 6:59pm

My Led Zep 45

Good shout, Brer Fox. While on holiday in Mallorca in 1970 I bought a Led Zep 45. Same tracks in English as I was used to, but the names in Spanish made them sound so much more exotic. How about Muchisimo Amor and Ruptura De Communicaciones.

adze thuggery | 3 February 2008 - 9:57pm

At a loose end?

Anybody with too much time on their hands could do worse than translating song titles and lyrics into another language and back to English with the Babel Fish translation tool .
From English to Spanish and back:
There is a lady that everything has surely shines as gold and she this buying stairs to the sky.

Dr.Robert | 4 February 2008 - 10:59am

That was all part of the

That was all part of the masterplan to add to the mystique wasn't it? Seemed to work OK for them.

Sven | 4 February 2008 - 8:34am

Ruptura De Communicaciones

Isn't it ironic.

Vulpes Vulpes | 4 February 2008 - 9:28am

No comprende?

Mr Vulpes - it seems I missed the intended meaning of your post, as in was tongue in cheek? Apologies if that is the case.

Sven | 4 February 2008 - 11:33am

No problemo!

Lol

Vulpes Vulpes | 4 February 2008 - 3:34pm

Talking of blues chancers

Use of hells angels as security at pop festival, not the best move - the consequences of all that satanic dabbling coming home to roost?

Sven | 3 February 2008 - 7:28pm

Fairport Convention

In the liner notes ('liner notes'!? what am I thinking?) to the reissued Faiport Live Convention CD Jerry Donahue relates how the band's backline was booked onto the flights to Australia as hand luggage, resulting in a £25,000 excess baggage charge greeting the band when they got home - considerably more than they'd earned for the tour in the first place. Almost more unbelievably, they didn't fire him.

skirky | 3 February 2008 - 7:54pm

No track breaks on Lovesexy

I'm sure he wasn't the only one that did it, but Prince's decision to issue Lovesexy as one track, denying the ability of the listener to pick out the odd great ditties and leave the rest, was exceptionally dumb.

And the Fabulous Poodles once put out a record in a fifteen inch sleeve. Funny for about a nano-second.

bo_doogley | 3 February 2008 - 8:16pm

D'Affy

Terence Trent D'Arby refused to release any singles from Neither Fish Nor Flesh, his (abosulutely dreadful) follow up to the trillion-selling Introducing The Hardline. Instead, he released a surprisingly good single under the pseudonym of The Incredible E.G. O'Reilly in an attempt to promote his new LP. This secret single, "The Birth Of Maudie" did not appear on any album. It was issued as a 7" only at a time when punters were gagging for different formats. Nowhere on the record did it even hint at the real identity of Mr O'Reilly. The record received no promotion and precious little airplay. In the week of its release, Terence Trent D'Arby appeared on the Simon Bates radio show and claimed to have had a meeting with Marvin Gaye (who by that time had been dead for seven years) the day before. Simon Bates claimed to believe him.

Bargain bins groaned under the weight of millions of unsold copies of Neither Fish Nor Flesh well into the nineties.

kinkywolfgang | 3 February 2008 - 9:02pm

Q magazine

Wasn't he also showing off his meat and two veg in Q magazine at that time? Yes, he got a bit caried away with himself to say the least, what was he on?

Sven | 3 February 2008 - 9:33pm

Beatbox anyone

Yes Stoke's very own cheeky chappie makes NFNF look like a roaring success!

Gordon Kerr | 4 February 2008 - 3:08pm

What about the band who had a symbol instead of a name?

Didn't they end up having to call themselves "Freur" or something?

David Hepworth | 4 February 2008 - 11:52am

They were Welsh

That explains it all!!

Gordon Kerr | 4 February 2008 - 3:05pm

Guess the Song!

Following on from Dr Robert's "Led Zep in translation" post, here's the 1st verse of a well-known song, after passing through the Babel Fish mincer (English to Japanese and back). Shouldn't be too difficult to get it:

As for me when the photograph his him is from the house of the main thing, before no one really is secure, the light/write changed the crowd of A of the people who stand, being scrutinized, that surface being seen, today when but it made the class of news Ohio state, with news it was somewhat sad if the boy to be good concerning the fortunate person, me it could not amuse me who do not become exactly, you looked at that you blow that heart of the car where he does not become aware especially you read,

Stephen G | 4 February 2008 - 12:04pm

Freur

Yes. Terrible idea.

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Although if they'd been successful, two of them would never have gone on to form Underworld, so they might consider the career-defeating name a blessing/valuable lesson.

Other examples of naming stupidity:

1) The The - impossible to Google, but formed pre-www, so we can forgive Matt Johnson
2) A - ditto, but no excuse
3) !!! - yes, we know you're pronounced chk chk chk, but whereabouts are your CDs filed?

Fraser Lewry | 4 February 2008 - 12:11pm

Factory Records

If you haven't seen it, go to the BBC iPlayer, watch 'Factory : From Joy Division to The Happy Mondays', re-shown on Saturday and marvel at how an entire record company could survive as long as Factory did while taking so many wrong turns, all of which were funded by New Order, the most stupendously gullible band of all time. One can only surmise how rich Hooky et al would now be if they'd run away from Tony Wilson after he managed to lose money on 'Blue Monday', a debacle which paled in comparison to Tone's later anti-profit efforts.

johnsey | 4 February 2008 - 1:16pm

It was all supposed to be so 'punk rock'

like ineptly (not on purpose) performing Blue Monday live on TOTP and then watch as it plummetted down the charts. Seems they thought that act gave some kind of moral superiority over those who mimed.

Sending Happy Mondays off to the carribean to record while hoping Shaun Ryder would stay off the crack wasn't too smart either.

All this madness is such a big part of what makes pop music such a great subject though isn't it?

Sven | 4 February 2008 - 1:24pm

urban myths

did they lose money on blue monday?

werent the original run the only ones with the specially die-cut sleeves?

gullable?, hindsights a wonderful thing.

gaz | 7 February 2008 - 10:36pm

Creation / Kula Shaker / Blaggers ITA

- I think Alan McGee advising Hurricane #1 that it was ok for the Sun to use their song 'Only The Strongest Will Survive' in an advert was the death knell for Creation Records.

- It's easy to forget how big Kula Shaker were before Crispian Mills started going on about flaming swastikas. New album's good though.

- Matty from Blaggers punching Melody Maker journalist Dave Simpson wasn't a good idea - no more music press and loads of gig cancellations was the swift result.

Jamie_Bowman | 4 February 2008 - 1:55pm

Remind me someone

Didn't Grace Jones have a total nightmare of a gig somewhere where everything that could go wrong did?
If I recall correctly the whole thing lasted about 15 mins with her miming all the wrong songs and flouncing off, no doubt looking for someone to belt round the head and watch her career hit the skids big time.
You're not in her league Amy.

Gordon Kerr | 4 February 2008 - 3:19pm

Oink! Oink!

I remember when in the 90s Roger Waters tried to sue the rest of the members of Pink Floyd over their inflatable pig.

He lost due to the fact that the pig the members used was a sow and the original one was a boar.

powerjen | 7 February 2008 - 8:53pm