Rob & Kate introduce the new issue of The Word
The Word's very own Kate Mossman and Rob Fitzpatrick introduce a gleaming new issue of the magazine. Subscribers will already be getting to grips with this action-packed edition, while those who prefer the trip to the newsagent will have to wait until it hits the shelves in the next day or so.








Quite the best issue in some
Quite the best issue in some months- bravo!
Curate's egg
It was good, apart from the interview with Jane Moore. Why? I knew nothing about her when I opened the magazine, and I wish that was still the case.
She doesn't say anything about music, film, books or soul-enhancing popular culture. She just puffs up tabloid journalism and says some dodgy things about human rights. Given that she has her own access to the media, why is The Word giving her more oxygen of attention-seeking?
Absolutely
Tabloid newspapers - and the people behind them - may be important players in the cultural passing show that The Word reports on, but anyone whose opinions stray from the Guardian party line simply must not be tolerated.
Can I just say....
....that I like Jane Moore?
Me too......
Especially some of those 1980's photo's!
Me too...
...and not necessarily for the photos.
Hmmm
I'm a tabloid hack, and I read - and, hey, actually enjoy - the Word. Me cultural touchstones also include The Clash, Chomsky, Mark Steel and Ken Loach. We ain't all monosyllabic misanthropes or Tory t*ssers, donchaknow.
ps Is Mr Ellen sponsored for the amount of times he uses the word 'thatch'? I counted three instances in this issue alone - included the classic polywotsit preface. Stll, long as it ain't Thatcher, right, kamraden? (Turns into 1980s Ben Elton)
Top issue
But I got 2 copies delivered, do you want me to send 1 back?
Salty Issues
...can you give it to someone who might like us, and email me your postcode so I can take up with our subs house?
A good issue generally
particularly the Roger Waters and Mike Leigh pieces. As for Jane Moore, I thought it was there on a "know your enemy" basis - couldn't see any other reason.
A thought though; the folk relationships diagram was interesting, but how about next time doing it with folk artists in the traditional sense, rather than indie Americans and the various practitioners of nu-, psych- and the like? Bellowhead, The Watersons, Faustus, Spiers & Boden and the like have equally convoluted and interesting relationships.
Family tree...
Some irony in having an article about Pete Frame, with his exemplary and easy to follow trees, followed by a messy doodle going all over the shop with nary rhyme nor reason. So vastly inferior I hope he didn't see it for himself.....
I often disagree...
...with Andrew Collins, but I'll continue to read his stuff. It would be a pretty dreary magazine if all the views expressed in it originated from the same wing of the sixth form common room, wouldn't it?
Grotesque
I'm going to cut out and laminate the sleeveface style picture on page 77 and use it at Halloween.
[Ah - just seen the video - you beat me to it.]
Could we have massive close-ups of other lived-in faces, please? Keith Richards, John Hurt, even ol' Scrotum Face W H Auden? Then we could have fun drawing Tolkien-style map features on their crags and gullies.
Increasingly
it seems, the website is becoming more interesting than the magazine. Passing again this month I fear....
Out of interest...
Are you basing your decision not to buy on this video?
Nice to do business with you...
...oh, we aren't.
Personally I prefer
the magazine. How can the site (content of which is essentially based around forum posts) compete with the following: a hilarious and regular Andrew Collins column, 99 per cent True, decent interviews, outstanding photography and art direction and 'proper writing'? I'll take my Special Edition anytime, thanks.
Podcast
I enjoy all 3 faces of The Word, but by a small margin I'd say the Podcast is my personal favourite.
Don't worry though, just bought the new issue today. And I'm posting on here. Yay!
John Fogerty...
...has good hair for 62.
And did you photoshop a pair of wolf's eyes onto the Roger Waters front cover photo? Scary stare that follows me round the room.
I thought it was
Tony Adams
If I look half as good as he
If I look half as good as he does at that age, I'll consider that an achievement. He does look fab doesn't he?
roger waters
Excellent interview with said curmudgeon. However, as a fully paid-up prole I dislike gazillionares urging me to overthrow the yoke of capitalism and fulfill my historical destiny yada yada.
I spent 5 years flogging Trot papers in a vain bid to do so, and barreled up to enough decidedly didactic plays to know all about the 5:84 principle.
I'm fully in favour of the redistribution of wealth, and I'll start with Rog's glorious American apartment, thank you very much. It'll save him a job, come the glorious day. Er, avante!
The Word . . .
. . .goes from strength to strength. Having been an avid reader since ish 1 and a subscriber soon after I've tracked it's ups and downs and it is a genuine highlight of my month when The Word plops on the doormat (I assume it plops, I'm usually at work when it arrives). You've pointed me towards stuff I would not always have considered (Rilo Kiley) and indulged me by talking to people I want to know more about (Graeme Garden, Marco Pirroni). The podcast and website keep me going between issues and are now a central part of your cultural assault. Surely Word.tv cannot be far away . . ?
Things you could of more of? I miss Doctor Digital. Get Tom Hibbert writing for you. More subscirber-only stuff on the site (whatever happened to the link to all the back issues? I'm running out of room and need to find a new home for them) Write a cover story about the Beatles/Stones/Hendrix every few months (only kidding).
Less of? Oooh, toughy. Nope. Just more please.
You produce the best magazine of it's type by a country mile. Well done. Keep it up.
Can I have a free subscription?
Dr Digital
One more vote for the Doctor - miss him miss him miss him....
Hi Fraser
Yes I am. Might be an idea to ditch them eh?
Roger Waters on the cover doesn't help either. Surely we've heard all there is to know about the Floyd and his piss-poor solo career by now??
Interview with Roger Waters?
There's no question that he goes on the cover. Put Carlene Carter or someone of similar profile on the front and pretty soon there'll be one less magazine on the shelves.
20 worst...
As ever the 20 worst section ticks the 'agree' and 'strongly disagree boxes'! Come on, Red Dwarf was good! I am not a sci-fi obsessed nerd or anything, honest, and I always really liked the show. More importantly I found it original and funny. On the wider subject of the magazine, I still love it, however, like the podcast, it can sometimes be a bit too pleased with itself!
The Word “a bit too pleased with itself”?
I don’t think so. I think The Word isn’t self-confident enough. Its writing squad is as near as you’ll get to a dream team. Its take on popular culture is unique, interesting, intelligent and entertaining. And yet the last four covers have been dull face shots of middle-aged men that there’s nothing much left to say or learn about. Playing safe. Securing the core demographic.
Should have put Gavin & Stacey on the cover.
But it’s easy to say that when you’re not running a small business with tight margins.
But the cover of the word....
...is just about the only music magazine where I can see older men than me. That makes me feel more "with it".
(O that that were true, in o so many ways....)
'A bit too pleased with itself'
I hate to say it, but I'm getting slightly weary of the adulatory letters being printed every issue. I love the magazine, don't get me wrong, but don't need to be reminded of it every time.
Can I just add...
...that The Melody Maker cover went downhill apace after 1932?
That's
when they started putting Roger Waters on the cover.
If this is the link for requests ....
...as well as Tom Hibbert, how about Ray Lowry. Is he, um, well?
Covers
I would just say I am personally happy with Roger on the cover but I am not fussed about Elvis Costello's music but was not put off by seeing him on the front, in fact I actually enjoyed reading the interview. Who's on the cover is not a big deal to me. I accept commercial considerations dictate. If I couldn't care less about Roger Waters there's plenty more to enjoy elsewhere inside. What's so good is it's all worth reading since it's all well written. No complaints. The website is fine and better than other similar efforts but you can't beat proper professional good writing. The podcast comes second and the website third - the blogs have their moments but can be over negative and conservative at times.
20/20 and Cover
I often strongly disagree with the choices in 20 Best/Worse (eg.Red Dwarf WAS good, Dads Army hasn't aged all that well, Human League best no.1 ever??? No.) but it still makes good reading. A lot of people seem to get wound up by reviews they don't agree with, but they can still be interesting.
Speaking of covers, I'd have second thoughts about buying it if Van Morrison was staring back at me again. I'd also avoid anything retelling a story about Lennon, Dylan, The Stones etc though I'm pleased to say Word hasn't fallen into this trap.
cover stars
I know there is a strong correllation between cover stars and units shifted, and I know you know what you're doing, and I know your magazine is brilliant, but every one of the last five cover stars have been on the cover before (three of them twice before). Surely the pool of artists who shift magazines isn't THAT small?
We would love some new people who fit the cover bill
and spend an inordinate amount of time thinking about it. But commercial reality will out, plus the other reality that there are certain people we can get hold of and certain people we can't. We're all for leftfield suggestions, though, but bear in mind that we have considered literally everybody in the world who makes music and a good few who don't. Any thoughts?
How about rather than one face alone, a patchwork quilt
8-16 equal sized oblongs, each with a picture of the main articled individuals. Not a Q style mix buy a deliberate equality. No writing bar the logo, but just the people featured inside. That way you get both the famous names that will attract the idle purchase, as well as the left field for the enthusiasts. The lack of writing nay intrigue the who the f's that browser, who would then have to open it up and begin to be drawn in....
Wasn't there an
edition that had films on the front - lots of them laid out a bit like the way you describe?
Andrew Eldritch
I'd like to see a decent in depth interview with him and his mug on the cover
One thing that doesn't really come across...
...is how free from padding WORD is. The odd bits and pieces that run for a page or two seem to have as much thought put into them as the main articles. Even the preview of the next issue is a work of art.
The only reservation I have about the cover is that, at some point this month, I will fall asleep next to my copy of WORD and awaken a few hours hence to the piercing stare of Roger Waters; thereby gaining an unwanted insight into what it is like to sleep with a former member of Pink Floyd.
Kate Mossman
I think I'm in love...
Do we
actually need rock stars on the cover at all I wonder? And the accompanying interviews themselves are usually so very, very dull ( because- let's face it, rock stars are so very, very dull..'yeah, we mixed the last album in Monterey and we got Johnny Marr in to play on a few of the tracks because we loved the Smiths and then we wanted to get a really live sound so we-' ). Costello was boring to the nth degree and, no doubt, Rog is too. I love the Floyd's stuff but I will scream my last scream if I have to hear any more about their internal difficulties...about how Syd was a tortured genius...about bloody Live 8...and about the fact that Rick Wright has morphed effortlessly and mysteriously into John Major.
I once again therefore retain my four ninety five as a small ( and no doubt pathetic ) personal protest....
Yes but no but...
Hang on, Eddie, but I suspect the vast majority of Word purchasers are from individuals who do have an interest in the minutiae of the providers of music that they do and do not like, irrespective, often of the tedious predictability of some of the interviewees. Yes, Word has a greater mix from other art and low-life forms, but miss out the music side and I suspect circulation, let alone advertising, revenues would sink like a lead zeppelin.
Exactly - what he said
The point is that if you withold your 4.95 you are getting a free ride in terms of the blog and the Podcast. I prefer to think of my 4.95 as a monthly club membership fee. Yes there are aspects of all three elements of the Word offering that are not always to my taste and I wholeheartedly agree that the rotating parade of familiar faces on the front of the magazine is wearing. However it subsidises the other good stuff inside since it snares the passing WH Smith punter.
As an aside I'd love to know whether the music magazine business as a whole is feeling the pinch along with the rest of the industry. On that basis are there other ways to 'monetise' (as I believe they say) the website a bit more without losing it's feel.
I feel faintly embarrassed
I feel faintly embarrassed buying a magazine which says 'dad rock' so loudly from its cover. I have zero interest in Roger bloody Waters (and quite of the other veterans who grace the cover), although it doesn't stop my buying Word since I know all the other stuff will be interesting. So, in that sense, the cover doesn't represent anything I actually like about the magazine. I know you have to have a selling point on the cover, but I like it when it is not music people who are, in general, not that interesting. I liked it when The Simpsons were on the cover. I would like to see people like Stephen Fry, Paddy Considine, John Hurt, Thom Yorke, Russell Brand, Stephen Merchant etc etc. you know, actors, film makers, writers, comedians. Because Word writers tend to do good interviews and articles, getting slightly more interesting material out of people than the bog standard interviews. And you cover TV and writers well too. But you wouldn't really know it from the cover. Lots of people who don't read Word just think of it as another vintage rock mag, but it's the 'not-vintage-rock' bit which makes it good.
I read the...
...'faintly embarrassed' line and thought how ridiculous to be embarrassed about buying a magazine. And then you suggested putting Russell Brand on the cover and I understood immediately. Realistically, anyone expecting to be interested or stimulated by the entire contents of the magazine is surely making unreasonable demands for their four quid, aren't they? I skipped the seemingly endless Dr Who feature a few months ago but found plenty of other things to inform and entertain. Similarly, and historically aware of the way in which history repeats itself, I wouldn't trouble my time with a Bryan Ferry interview were you to secure one, as the old fingers have been burnt once too often. Although I thought both Costello and Waters were fine value. On the other issue, for me - and I suspect for most - the magazine is the rock on which the website and the podcast rest.
I'll admit a cover did for me once before. I was in from issue one but after some years I realised that I was tired of it but had persevered - like one does, and the tipping point in my relationship with Q came quite a few years ago when they put Charlie Drake on the cover, quickly followed by Skeletor and her pals.
Russell Brand
If he were on the cover I would have to remove it before having the magazine in the house. Stephen Fry and Thom Yorke not too bad but Radiohead standard Q and Mojo cover stars so not exactly different. What about Goldfrapp, Kim Deal, Alex Turner, Beck, Elbow, Gavin and Stacey? I can see that non-music star would confuse though. The more you think about it the harder it gets. Some newer acts would be good basically, to steer away from vintage rock tag.
We can quibble about Russell
We can quibble about Russell Brand or whoever (actually I stand by that choice, he is intelligent and interesting, and a good writer, as you can see from his great football column in The Guardian - I think Word writers could get a portrait of him which would be much more interesting than the usual indulgent frothy fanboy fawning ). But the point is that veteran rockers have been done to death, and feature regularly on the front of Q, Mojo, Uncut amongst others. They are just tired, as I am tired of reading about them. By putting them on the cover they bracket Word as one of those mags, and I happen to think it is a much more interesting read than that. If I think about Word I think of articles like the Golden Age of Music, 50 quid man, pieces about why music sounds crap now, ruminations about TV and film, pearls of wisdom from people like the late Alan Coren etc. It is actually much more interesting than those covers suggest. Which is fine for regular readers, but I don't think it does them any favours for more casual browsers. By putting a wider selection of people on the cover it might suggest as much.
For instance, this month. What is the biggest musical event of the month? Portishead touring and releasing an album. Notorious recluses, and difficult to get interviews, I still think Word writers could have come up with an engrossing look at them, and the whole background of that scene. I would pay good money to read an in depth piece like that, and it would give them a different angle on the newstands.Plus you could make a great design on the cover, instead of a bog standard photo, which would suggest the place they come from and their atmospheric soundscapes. Personally, I think that would beat Rogers Waters into fine impression of a very cocked hat.
You have a valid point
about old rock done to death. I am just reading Q - it doesn't take long these days. The trouble is once you have a certain level of knowledge/experience of pop you gain little from further coverage of the over familiar subjects you know so well having read the book etc. unless there is a fresh new take. There does tend to be more awareness of this need in The Word though. It is a tough one to get right cover-wise. You want to draw in the music fan who would otherwise go for Mojo, but you want to show it's different and emphasise that.
The Portishead piece...
...you request was in Mojo, wasn't it? I seem to remember skipping past it.
Russell Brand + Football Column + Guardian? I'm not swayed.
Cover pic
Bottom line is that it has to sell magazines to the people who might be occasional purchasers, not what those of us who subscribe/buy it regardless would like. However, since the trail for the next issue apparently includes an interview with Isobel Campbell & Mark Lanegan, can I suggest that a pic of Ms Campbell on the cover would
a) be a pleasant change from wrinkly old male rockers
b) reflect slightly better the interesting range of music the magazine covers
c) make me very happy indeed
Yes Mr Path ( sigh )
I know all that. But surely Mojo and Uncut do all that 'tell us about the new album' shite every month with varying degrees of predictability and tedium? I've always liked the Word because it was different and somewhat irreverent. I'm just slightly concerned that recent issues have lacked this lateral approach and that the magazine is losing it's edge as a result. Distressingly I recall that the same thing happened with Q and with Mojo after a while. Is there such a phenomenon as the 'difficult 46th issue' ( or however many it's been now ) I wonder? Perhaps you could get some new blood in there editorially- if only for the occasional issue- like OZ did with their schoolkids thing. I'm sure some of us bloggers would be up to the challenge.
Oh. And you should never have apologized to Morrissey. If he doesn't like what you write, fuck him. ( And I'm a Morrissey fan )
"I'm just slightly concerned
"I'm just slightly concerned that recent issues have lacked this lateral approach."
How do you know? I thought you weren't buying them on the strength of the cover and a 90 second video clip?
It's been
a gradual thing.
Ah,
right.
Sack Roy Wilkinson
for not questioning Mark E Smith about the types of animals he would like to kill. One of your "rivals" clearly has its finger on the pulse of what music fans like to read. Apart from this journalistic lapse, and the completely pointless Jane Moore piece, another great issue - but why was Richard Gere on the cover?
Its an added bonus
Who appears on the cover of The Word doesn`t matter much to me. If its someone I like then great, if its someone I don`t like or don`t care about one way or the other, then so be it (In most cases I`ll read the article anyway). Its the rest of the magazine that counts and that justifies both my interest and my loyalty. If you don`t like whats in it don`t buy it.
If you want suggestions for future articles, how about...Roddy Frame, Teenage Fanclub, Billy Connolly, Doves, Radiohead (yes I know they are featured to death elsewhere, but they are brilliant), David Byrne, Stephen Lindsay, Sam Cooke, Ron Sexsmith, OK I`ll stop there. Apologies if any of the aforementioned have been featured already as I only seen the light from Spring 2004 onwards. You could also champion more of the acts which feature on the Now Hear This CD each month by having article(s) about them in the magazine.
THE RUNNING ORDER IS: MAGAZINE 1, WEBSITE 2, PODCAST 3. EACH BRILLIANT BUT SOMEHOW TAINTED IF NOT ENJOYED AS A `THREESOME`.
Don't see what all the fuss
Don't see what all the fuss is about over the the Jane Moore piece. There have been quite a few articles in The Word's illustrious history that haven't taken my fancy, so I just haven't bothered to give them too much of an in-depth read - just a quick glance to see there's anything that jumps out at me as being immediately attention-grabbing, then a quick turn of the page and see what are the 20 best/worst cream cakes ever.
It was certainly a far more interesting use of a few minutes than flicking through yet another collection of unseen pics of The Beatles' trip to see the Maharishi, like you seem to get every other month in some other mags that I'm too embarassed to mention (cos I haven't got round to cancelling my subscription yet)
Roger Waters in 'grows into face' shock!
Is it just me, or has Roger Waters gradually become a very handsome gent?! I don't think it would be unfair to say that in his youth, the 'creative genius behind Pink Floyd' was not going to trouble the catwalks of the world. But now? He looks fabulous!
How does this work? Can someone explain?
There's hope for us all!
I love Andrew Collins' work...
..and have even bought all his books.
But the New Statesman/Spectator piece was hard work, wasn't it?
At least use proper sentences, man!
talking of mr collins
why not do an double-headed interview with Stuart Maconie and the man who has stolen his voice on those dreadful sofa adverts? For some reason I find this utterly bizarre and need to know more!
20 Best British TV programmes
I took a look at the list and thought that I didn't agree with several of the choices, particularly Dad's Army and Dr Who, but thought, 'well it is a British top 20', so perhaps it's a cultural thing, a reflection of British culture that those outside don't necessarily embrace. But then I saw that Father Ted was in the Top 20. Now, being Irish I think a lot of the humour has to do with the kind of cultural stereotypes it portrays and aspects of Irish culture that are just odd enough to be funny. The programme contains predominantly Irish actors, is set and filmed in Ireland, its creators are Irish, etc, and, though I know that Channel 4 were the ones who financed it, is, I think, mainly an Irish programme. So, I have two choices, either I criticise your list for having said British programmes on it, and pass it off as having specifically British cultural references, or I criticise it for including Father Ted. Either way, I can't win, though, of course, the very fact that I'm discussing it says something.