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Richard Bacon
Posted by Bingham on 25 August 2011 - 3:39pm.
just tuned in to see whether there was any improvement in Bacon's performance since his takeover from Simon Mayo on Five live in January 2010.....sadly still as crap as ever..poor Mayo buried on Radio Two..what a waste
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bacon
whoever thought he'd be good for radio/comedy/interviewer/whatever he is, needs shooting, with him stood right next to them to save on bullets!
The BBC
(and ITV) has some mystifying employment practices. Alan Shearer and Robbie Savage to name another two.
I can only imagine they're less intimidating to unsophisticated viewers.
It's better to love than to hate...
... so I usually don't appreciate negative posts. However, I make an exception for Alan Shearer, whose fence-sitting, namby pamby, bland, sub-Brooking, uncontroversial, old pro routine is appalling.
Robbie Savage, meantime, is an unlikeable blonde thug.
There is a role for Robbie
There is a role for Robbie Savage - or players like him - in every soccer team.
I'd have selected him. Second or third name. For every Lionel Messi you need the brutal brick carrier.
The exception to that very good rule
is, of course, Barcelona where the closest thing to a brutal brick carrier is Puyol. And he's not.
Busquets
does that role,LB as does Mascherano.
You have a point
on Busquets. I stand corrected.
Disag re: Savage
Probably wrong to place Shearer and Savage in the same boat as they are probably the two most contrasting pundits that you could hope to find. One perennially, brain-numbingly boring, the other continually seeking for controversy and an excuse to fight.
I find Savage highly entertaining, unlike Shearer who I literally mute.
Me too
i really have grown to like him.
He has a good heart too.
A fine panto villan.
Shearer is uterrly pointless and the new line up on Sky almost as grim as the last lot.
Agreed on Savage
Like many I absolutely hated him until the later stages of his playing career and found the panto villain act rather endearing. His commentaries these days are an antidote to the mindless twaddle dished out by most old football pros.
Why can football find so few to match the articulation of the average old RFU pro at the mike - people like Philip Matthews, Andy Nicol, Colin Charvis and yes even Brian Moore?. Men who tell the game as they see it without worrying about the feelings of curent players?.
Richard
I listen only to the podcasts. I think he has an extremely annoying personality, however from time to time he does come up with a decent interview. The rest of the show, TV review, Help, Chart the Week etc is garbage.
It's like he's heard Alan Partridge
and thought that was the best wa6y to present radio, the sudden exclamations that often display his idiocy in glowing neon colours, his terrible grasp of current affairs, his stupid stupid voice. If thats what taking coke does to you then I'm glad I've abstained.
Bacon / Partridge
He loves interviewing people who work in broadcasting, and might in some way commission programmes...
Buried?
Drivetime on the most listened to station in the UK can't be that bad. Agreed he doesn't get the chance to flex his interviewing muscles as much as he might on R5, but he does get to play some music as well...
Richard Bacon's Beer & Pizza Club
Was there ever a more contrived, ludicrous concept than this slice of ITV4 lad-aimed drivel?
I agree with Milkybarnick about Mayo. Being on Britain's biggest radio station hardly constitutes being buried. I like him, but i think he can be a bit grand in his interviews. He's good at it and he sometimes let's that get in the way.
Thank God he's back though. Any more of Liza Tarbuck's unfunny gushing and I'd have to kill myself.
Buried
sorry wrong term...but given the nature of the drivetime show...it has forced a change in Mayo's style...I think he is wasted there..such a superb interviewer..I also think Radcliffe and MacConie have slightly changed their style since their switch to Radio 6... they sound somewhat forced and slightly disinterested ..maybe it's just me though...The BBC seems to make changes just for the sake of making changes
It wasn't for the sake of it...
...in Mayo's case. He has said he will not move to Salford, so that basically ruled him out of staying at Five Live on a daily show.
Plus, the Radio 2 show is MUCH bigger than an afternoon show on Five Live. Not sure of the listening figures, but I imagine he gets at least four or five times more on this show. He has hinted that he wanted this show for years.
I don't think you can blame BBC management for this one, to be honest, as easy as it is to do in many cases.
I'm clearly in the minority
....but I always used to find myself getting annoyed by Mayo's continual interruptions and pithy point-scoring. Would completely knacker the flow of Kermode's reviews.
I like Bacon's voice and slightly shambolic air
Yes he does miss the occasional obvious question and sometimes you can hear him filling in, but it is a live show turning round a variety of stuff quickly and I think he does very well.
He's got a great radio voice, the E. Midlands twang giving it a sing-song quality, and he's particularly good on the light stuff - TV reviews, Help section etc. Most of the interviews are entertaining, too, as he usually establishes a rapport with his guest.
It's a completely different style to Mayo who was understated, calm and rather bland, especially as a DJ with some of the terrible records he plays now.
i'm pretty sure you
couldn't squeeze a waffer thin mint between him, iain lee and dave gorman in terms of presenting style and weird studenty intonation. Particularly Bacon and Lee, they sound like twins. Really irritating, like I'm a foreigner listening to a comedian and not getting the references. I mean I understand the jokes but i feel like I HAVE NOTHING IN COMMON WITH YOU OR YOUR LIFE EXPERIENCES.
Ahem, sorry.
I suspect
Iain Lee has some pretty Word-friendly musical tastes (huge Monkees fan for a kick off). I think there's more to him than the wacky schtick I've never quite believed it. I guess that's what it takes to 'get on'...
But with Iain Lee
its also clearly part of a act to wind people up andnot to be taken seriously. Bacon does come over as someone who thinks he's a good interviewer but only gets good answers when he says something mindbendingly crass and stupid that no one else would utter
Plus I may or may not have been on Iain Lee's show as a guest the other week.
It was reference to Iain Lee that turned me on to the Word
Mark Ellen was a guest of Mark Radcliffe's on his old solo Radio 2 late show, going through highlights of the current issue. 2007, I think.
Mr Ellen homed in on the Best and Worst TV Presenters. The entry for Iain Lee in the Worst section read something like: "Almost mathematically unfunny. He could present live coverage of the first manned landing on Mars and you'd still turn over."
I thought that's the mag for me.
Im not talking about Lee's
act although it is similar to Bacon's, it's the way they speak which just comes over as weird. I guess what I mean by that is that because the Act isn't him, there's something inauthentic about them that grates.
I guess it's a bit like Johnny Vaughan being a cockney spiv figure when he's a public schoolboy from Lincolnshire or somewhere.
I'm not the 'authenticity' police but if Bacon was the only presenter in that style then fine, but when it seems to be a trend,,,, I'm out.
I used to really like him on XFM...
...back when it was halfway to listenable. I've never listened to R2 for more than 10 minutes without smashing my face into the steering wheel for something else to do, so can't comment, but surely he can't have got that much worse?
Yeah, me too
and that Elaine(?) from Ashton-Under-Lyne he had on was always funny - could never work out if she was in on it or not.
Richard Bacon sucks
His most irritating quality is that just as you think he is improving he says something stupid, crass or vacuous. He's worse on 6music. It says something when his regular stand in's Colin Murray or Phil Williams are so much better. Plus he's got a really irritating habit of using people's first & second names over and over again. I have more than a ten second attention span that's why I listen to 5live I don't need reminding who you're speaking quite so much. He's a muppet!
Robbie Savage on the other hand is quite entertaining as a summariser. I heard his first commentary and didn't realise who was talking so amusingly and insightfully so it was a surprise to hear it was him. Plus it's funny when he argues with the 606 callers. As a player he was a massive knob unless he played for your team and Dion Dublin will always be a legend for decking him! (Not that Im insighting violence online in case the government are listening in.)
God, please, no !!
Not Colin Murray. There's nothing guaranteed to make me turn off the radio faster than his goat-like tones.
He is still better than Bacon
I would have agreed when he was on Radio1 but i personally lke his laid back approach on 5Live, especially on Fighting Talk. The goat comment did make me chuckle though...
The Kermode and Mayocast
Has got a lot better now that, when the good Doctors go on holiday, they have Colin, Boyd and Floyd on board rather than back in the days when it used to be Mr. Bacon and just one other critic.
These days I actually like the fact that K & M go on holiday sometimes (gives me a chance to hear some other opinions on film an have a bit of a break). This would not be the case if Bacon was still filling in.
Bacon. Hapless.
The rumour was that he was caught along with two much higher-profile BBC presenters in the charlie sting (Z** B*** and J**** T*********)and the hacks, the PRs and the BBC execs worked it that the other two weren't mentioned if they could hang the other guy out to dry. Bacon was told that if he fell on his sword and went along with it, he'd be given an armour-plated BBC job later on in his career.
I like Simon Mayo on Drive. He's already got a Sony for it, remember. And he plays some of my suggestions..
That's a good rumour
Explains a lot if it's true. Didn't appear to do JT much good though. If I have worked that one out correctly they're shit on the radio too.
GRRRRRR!
I'd take Savage over the odious Busquets every time.
I think Bacon is pretty good
I think Bacon is pretty good now, I really slated him in the aftermath of the Mayo defection. I also like Colin Murray.
Agreed
I think he's an excellent interviewer and unlike Mayo doesn't always give his guests an easy ride. I remember enjoying a quite heated discussion with Michael Parkinson over the merits of Russell Brand for example.
I like Mayo but some of his interviews border on the sycophantic. His fawning interview with Jennifer Aniston was quite vomit inducing. If they both interviewed the same subject I know which one of the two I'd rather hear. Agree that he could do with dumping the features (podcast heroes, help, etc) I always forward through them on the podcast.