Remember the Internet?

ool__mobile_phone__ArrayComm_via_AboutDotCom.jpgThis morning, for no reason, a word from the past popped into my mind. And that word was Freeserve. Remember that? Used to be on everyone's lips. It was the first apparently free internet access provider, set up by Dixon's. Well, it's just ten years ago that Freeserve was set up. (It was subsequently folded into Orange.)

Which makes you think:
a) how the internet accelerated time
b) how hard it is to remember a time before the internet
c) how quickly we forget what was once snazzy and dead exciting

What else was once part of our digital daily lives but now seems as distant as Ancient Rome?

Not being able to be on the

Not being able to be on the phone and the internet at the same time. On home set-ups anyway. Does that mean pre-broadband.

Richard Lowe | 12 February 2008 - 9:30am

OY!

Less of your cheek - I still use my original fsnet email address (which, Fraser explained, was the reason I had trouble joining this site)>

Gatz | 12 February 2008 - 9:35am

It's not just them

AOL and Tiscali, to name but two, are equally inept at distinguishing between legitimate mail and spam.

Fraser Lewry | 12 February 2008 - 10:08am

Oh, and while you're there ....

... don't you mean 'Freeserve' rather than 'Freeview' in the body of the text? That's what happens if you blog when right-minded people are still having their morning coffee.

Gatz | 12 February 2008 - 9:37am

Thank you

Corrected that. Never connected "fsnet" with Freeserve.

David Hepworth | 12 February 2008 - 9:40am

Slow computers

Remember the days when a webpage loaded so slowly that you could go and make a coffee and half the screen would still be blank when you got back?

Patrick Crowther | 12 February 2008 - 9:58am

My first email address

was a ten digit number, that I've long since forgotten, @compuserve.com.

Downloading photos in GIF format from a NASA server via command line FTP took absolutely ages.

Sigh. When I were a lad etc etc etc.

Vulpes Vulpes | 12 February 2008 - 12:46pm

T'INTERNETS BABY.

I can't actually think back to a time when the Internet wasn't a swollen, tumid force. I grew up in the era of the Information Superhighway, and am a living product of the interconnected computer network...as witnessed here.

Liam Hatchet | 12 February 2008 - 10:26pm

That's sounds like

a typical weekend night with my Virgin Media broadband....

Thanks for nothing Richard.

Paul Chandler | 12 February 2008 - 8:20pm

Slow computers

Yes, I can remember when it took hours for the internet screen to load up. It was yesterday morning, between 10 and 12. Try living in the third world (in my case West Timor) if you want to remember the good/bad old days. I have not had the internet in a functional state for the last 4 weeks, in fact. I have never seen Youtube or Facebook, either, despite several attempts. It is worth remembering that not everyone sits on the well resourced side of the digital divide.

brutus_odowd | 17 February 2008 - 9:08am

So it's just me then...

...that still has dial-up internet at home :-(

feelingsinister | 12 February 2008 - 10:00am

do you really?

does it still exist?

Rob Fitzpatrick | 12 February 2008 - 8:57pm

What is DIAL--UP?

What is DIAL--UP?

Liam Hatchet | 12 February 2008 - 10:27pm

It's hardly thriving...

...but it still exists, the old connection has just never been upgraded. The amount of time it takes for a page to load up makes me think I won't exist by the end of it though

feelingsinister | 14 February 2008 - 7:30pm

old skool

What about setting your clock radio to record the BBC broadcast of a computer programme (at 3 am)that you played on cassette and then took half a hour to load.
Or later on going online quickly and downloading a web page and then coming off line again to read it.
Or the days when web cams of motorway intersections or coffee pots where the hottest thing around.

Chris G | 12 February 2008 - 10:27am

There seemed to be a perception

around the start of the popular take up of the internet in around 1996/7 that it would mean you could get lots of stuff for free - culminating in the idea of Freeserve. There was all sorts of tat out there being given away causing companies to go bust.

Also the great idea that I think the pitiful Boo.com had of having shops where you could go and try on the clothes that they offered for sale but couldn't actually buy them. Oh no, for that you had to go back home and order them online and wait for them.

The internet also ruined nostalgia for me. Back in the early 90s looking back on old kids TV was to dip into a hazy, misty memory. Now you can get full episode listings for every episode of The Clangers and can prove to doubters in seconds that, no, there really were no characters with those names in Captain Pugwash.

Jason Carter | 12 February 2008 - 11:09am

i had a pal who worked for Boo

the story she tells about their launch party is like hearing someone who's been beamed in from ancient Rome...

Rob Fitzpatrick | 12 February 2008 - 8:56pm

Radio Luxembourg

I remember not only listening to Radio Luxembourg but also taping whole programmes. Like the Beatles Hour on Tuesdays if memory serves. Imagine the crackle and hiss from MW208 and I loved it !!

Springer | 12 February 2008 - 12:14pm

Radio Luxembourg

I remember not only listening to Radio Luxembourg but also taping whole programmes. Like the Beatles Hour on Tuesdays if memory serves. Imagine the crackle and hiss from MW208 and I loved it !!

Springer | 12 February 2008 - 12:14pm

Sorry

Posted twice in error and can't delete.

Springer | 12 February 2008 - 12:17pm

That's OK...

you made your point twice as effectively.

Patrick Crowther | 12 February 2008 - 12:18pm

Thanks

At least I still have your respect.

Springer | 12 February 2008 - 12:23pm

Web addresses

I very well recall asking people for their company website addresses, and getting this reply:

"H T T P, all lower case, colon, forward slash forward slash, double-you double-you double-you, dot etc etc"

kb | 12 February 2008 - 1:04pm

web addys

people still say w w w

gaz | 14 February 2008 - 11:19pm

Previous software and old web forum styles

The moment you get used to new software, you un-learn the previous one very quickly (eg Word Perfect - F7 was print, or was it save, and that's it).

And same with a new web forum style, I find it impossible to recall how the previous Word one looked for example.

kb | 12 February 2008 - 1:07pm

It's like when they knock something down on the High Street

and you immediately can't remember what was there. Or maybe I'm getting old.

Andrew Harrison | 12 February 2008 - 9:04pm

Amazon

Ah! The High Street! Isn't that where people went to buy stuff before the Internet?

JohnW | 14 February 2008 - 2:00pm

Short term something or other

Well, I'm 36 and I'm the same! I was trying to find out what is where Burberries in Birmingham used to be the other day. As it shut about 18 years ago I was struggling badly. Luckily I enlisted the help of my younger and clearly more attentive wife!

Stringy | 15 February 2008 - 3:23pm

Remember the telly going off?

Even in 1990 when my first was born, ITV had only just started going through the night. BBC 1 & 2 used to go blank off around midnight. Even thrusting, edgy Channel 4 used to take a nap.

http://www.tvradiobits.co.uk/tellyyears/november1990.htm

johnsey | 12 February 2008 - 1:27pm

Gawd Bless Her Majesty (copyright W Bragg, 2007)

they used to play the anthem at closedown, to let us all know it was time for the workers to get some shut eye before rising at the crack to put in another 16 hour shift at the factory.
Unlike today's ASBO-collecting, crack smoking ne'er do wells, who stay up all night watching shopping channels and buying bling on stolen plastic.

It was all fields round here, you know.

Vulpes Vulpes | 12 February 2008 - 2:02pm

With sincere apologies to Van Morrison

Take me back, take me way, way, way back
On Hyndford Street
Where you could come in at half-past eleven
and watch the second half of Skins on E4+1.
On long summer nights
As youtube played a clip of a teenager in a blonde wig,
lip-syncing to Toxic by Britney Spears
As we sent text messages in l33t speak back and forth across the Beechie river
In the quietness as we sank into a bored stupor
watching grainy, black and white footage
of contestants asleep on Big Brother 8
And voting on The X Factor and Strictly Come Dancing
Sunny summer afternoons
on Rapidshare, downloading the new Rhiana album
that had leaked three months before its official release date
Watching double bills of Scrubs and Friends in the evenings
And meeting down by the Tesco Metro
Queuing up to audition for Big Brother
Going out to the Spice Girls reunion shows at the O2 arena on the bus
Registering to buy tickets for Glastonbury online
Logging onto myspace or facebook
In the days of celebrity culture
Nuts Magazine, The Jeremy Kyle Show
Tragic Life Stories, upstairs in the book department of WH Smiths,
Chantelle from Celebrity Big Brother
Sunday World of Warcraft sessions and in-between there was Second Life
And Red Aftershock, and ringtones and catchphrases from The Catherine Tate Show, and shivers up the back of the neck
And late at night playing Halo 3 on Xbox Live
And Ipod shuffle during the day
And skipping past every third track
Early mornings when contemplation was best
watching Smile TV with the sound turned down
And then The Hoobs and repeats of Friends and Will & Grace
And crawling into bed at nine or ten in the morning
on Hyndford Street, irritable and dissatisfied
caught in the grind of the here and now
And reading Heat or Hello! magazine
And "Jordan: A Whole New World " by Katie Price
And "Too Much, Too Young" by Kerry Katona
Over and over again
And the ringtones echoing late at night over Beechie River
And Never Mind The Buzzcocks being on at nine o'clock on Thursdays, and then some indie pop programme on E4 fronted by Alex Zane or Miquita Oliver
It was always one of those two
Can you feel the ennui?
On Hyndford Street
At half past eleven on long summer nights
As the Dave Channel screened back to back episodes of Mock The Week
And a taxi passing by the Beechie River
disrupted the digital TV signal
and made the screen go all blocky.

backwards7 | 12 February 2008 - 2:27pm

That...

...is brilliant.

David Hepworth | 12 February 2008 - 3:09pm

Agreed.

How's about reading it out on the podcast?

Patrick Crowther | 12 February 2008 - 7:24pm

Shouldn't backwards7 be

Shouldn't backwards7 be awarded some sort of badge for that? A thunderous virtual round of applause doesn't really seem to do it justice.

Richard Lowe | 12 February 2008 - 6:08pm

POST OF THE DAY

I wonder what we'd have to do to get Van to perform it?

Andrew Harrison | 12 February 2008 - 9:06pm

He's done it again

More stunning stuff from backwards. Not unlike his effort here the other week :
http://www.wordmagazine.co.uk/content/lyrics-great-untapped-repository-a...

Drill down into the comments for more gems. It should have been in the mag.

johnsey | 12 February 2008 - 9:56pm

Hang orn a munnut,

we'll get Georgie to vamp some chords, oi think we may have a sowng thar.

Vulpes Vulpes | 12 February 2008 - 2:23pm

Before the iPod

yepp.gifThis was my first mp3 player, given to me in late 1999. It's the Samsung Yepp E16, and it featured a grand total of 16MB of removable memory - enough for about five short pop songs. From memory, I think it retailed for the best part of a hundred quid.

I never used it.

Fraser Lewry | 12 February 2008 - 5:53pm

what a truly wonderful machine

bring it in - we'll muck about with it. My friend Tony had the first iPod I ever saw. It cost about 500 quid and held about a thousand songs. It was the most amazing thing I'd ever seen...

Rob Fitzpatrick | 12 February 2008 - 8:54pm

Prestel

Any of you go back that far? When you didn't have phone sockets? So to connect the modem you had to poke very thin coloured wires into the socket on the skirting board? And the speed (misnomer!) was I think around 1200/300 baud (whatever that was). But it established the idea so I wanted more.
Incidentally my alterego of adze thuggery arose when an early academic contribution went through a primitive spell checker and that's what it did to my name. Everyone else thought it suited so that's who I've been ever since.

adze thuggery | 12 February 2008 - 7:12pm

OF course

you could connect your telephone to an audio coupler, as demonstrated in War Games to great effect, and prompting a generation of school kids to press their telephones against their C64 cassette decks when loading, in a futile attempt to hack into the Pentagon.

Jason Carter | 12 February 2008 - 8:23pm
Springer | 13 February 2008 - 12:29pm

i remember being tremendously

excited by Tiscali announcing they were going to introduce an unmetered dial-up service (I even remember it making the lunchtime news). I also remember getting sent an mp3 by someone at the newly launched nme.com and it taking at least 20 minutes to download. My friend Rik was the first person I knew to have the internet at home. He had a 12k modem, pictures literally did download one line at a time. This was about 1995.

Rob Fitzpatrick | 12 February 2008 - 8:51pm

The first time I used a chat room (one about jungle tunes)

there were so few people on the Internet that I ran into someone I knew - the then-editor of Mixmag, Dom Philips, who was trying to convince some kid in Washington that drum'n'bass was the future. This was about 1994 and I was using blistering hot Compuserve in a pre-browser universe. It was like a global village, i.e. a population of about a thousand, you knew them all by name and there was an idiot (me).

Andrew Harrison | 12 February 2008 - 9:12pm

C30 C60 etc etc

Getting my first walkman.

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Unfortunately you also needed these in your pocket
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Oh yes and a bag full of these
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Gordon Kerr | 12 February 2008 - 9:00pm

I still have mine, somewhere at the back of a dusty shelf.

I'm waiting for the Design Museum to put out a call, or for them to start getting trendy again, at which point I'll sell it on eBay for enough to buy a yacht. I may be dead by then, so it's in my will that my youngest neice gets it. She'll be told it's what used to be called a "personal stereo". Unfortunately, by then, AA batteries will have been outlawed by the ChemoSafePolice, and she'll have to sell it on eBay2. Probably for 3NnP (that's New new pence). Which will be enough to buy a shoe lace.

Vulpes Vulpes | 13 February 2008 - 11:40am

Oh, the Magnovox Odyssey

Oh, the Magnovox Odyssey console says moo!
and the Intellivision system says meow!
the Nintendo Enertainment System says roof!
and the Sega Master System says baaa!

Liam Hatchet | 12 February 2008 - 9:46pm

Is Vic There?

I can actually remember a time when in order to make a phone call to someone while he or she was at work, YOU HAD TO RING THE BUILDING. Then a nice receptionist lady would put you through, and if the person you wanted to talk to was there, game on. If they were out at a three-bottle lunch, then tough titty. Then came answering machines, then mobiles, then email, then the dreaded text, and and and. Mind you, I once covered an entire Cannes Film Festival for Empire magazine pre-mobile. Happy days my friends.

BARNEY

barneytabasco | 12 February 2008 - 10:51pm

Luxury....

There were a time, yoong man, when t'lady at exchange told thee if Vic were in, to save you t'bother of phoning.
Before my time, of course.
I gather you can now get one piece hand sets as well!

Retropath2 | 13 February 2008 - 8:40am

Listen, sonny

when I were a lad, you had to put in four pennies, and push Button A to place the call, and then Button B if there was no answer in order to get the coins back, if you were lucky.

If you were very very lucky, the poor sod who used the phone box before you had not got through, but had forgotten to press Button B before they stalked off. Your own initial hopeful and exploratory pressing of Button B would then clatter their cash into your sweaty mitts.

Armed with enough cash for two calls, you could now make the call (which had to be important enough to have justified the traipse to the phone box) and spend the extra four pennies your mum had given you on a sherbet fountain. You'd have to gulp it down before you got home, of course, or your mum would tell you off for "spoiling your appetite". In turn, this gulping meant that you'd have to stifle the inevitable give-away volcanic belch of Vesuvian proportions that always arrives 15 minutes after the ingestion of a huge quantity of powdered sugar and bicarbonate of soda. Happy days.

Vulpes Vulpes | 13 February 2008 - 12:03pm

We had a party line!

Sounds exciting but in reality it meant that if someone up the street was on the phone, you had to wait until she'd finished (it was always a lady, funnily enough) before making your call. I couldn't see such a system working these days, somehow.

johnsey | 13 February 2008 - 12:24pm

A look at the literature

of the time is interesting - articles about this new fangled internet business, e-mail, strange networks where you could meet weird people, and if I'm not mistaken, Word had an article on how wonderful iPods were a fair old while back. I also remember reading a piece on Windows 3.1, where the writer told us that using a mouse would take a while to get used to...

And let us not forget the quaint idea that instant fortunes where there for the making by any clown with a website that could be floated on the stock exchange.

samfid | 13 February 2008 - 3:52am

At the height of the dotcom boom, Andy Gray...

..., he of Sky football commentary fame, used to write a weekly piece for Football365.com. The site couldn't afford to pay him in cash so they gave him shares, which he promptly sold for £50000. Weeks later the shares were worth about a fiver.

johnsey | 13 February 2008 - 12:36pm

Somebody told me recently..

...about the days when he ran an early magazine about the internet and he can remember reading the line "already there are hundreds of web sites...."

David Hepworth | 13 February 2008 - 9:10am

...and it's going to grow to

...and it's going to grow to a steady 40,000 by the year 2006''

Liam Hatchet | 13 February 2008 - 12:30pm

The overnight miracle

When I was at college in the mid-late 80s we were told that the library had a wonderful machine which could help us with our disertations. If you logged a request with the front desk they could search for and obtain academic papers on the same subject which you could collect if you called back just 24 hours later.

Gatz | 13 February 2008 - 9:40am

Quizzes

The internet has pretty much killed off the Charity Day Office Quiz, because everyone pays their £1 to enter and then looks all the answers up on Wikipedia - for the past few Comic Reliefs or Children In Needs, we've had an e-mail that basically says "thankyou to those who entered - everyone got all the answers correct, first name out of the hat is...".

The same goes for lyric quizzes - type the line into Google and within seconds you've found out what it is.

The "guess the album cover" quiz remains just as challenging though...

Simon Hoyle | 13 February 2008 - 10:31am

It hasn't killed off the pub quiz

but it has meant that the quizmaster/mistress has to pace the bar-room like an exam invigilator, keeping an eye out for people using web'n'walk and Shazam on their mobiles. Shouldn't pubs be lined with lead in future, to stop this sort of thing?

Andrew Harrison | 13 February 2008 - 11:28am

Come the revolution

anyone taking a mobile into a pub, at any time, will have their mobile forcibly confiscated.

Said evil device will then be subjected to the following treatment:


Vulpes Vulpes | 13 February 2008 - 12:27pm

Y'calls, y'texts, y'emails

A benefit of instant information:
A year or so ago, I heard a 'presenter' on local radio bemoaning the fact that Google has killed phone-in quizzes stone dead. Oh dear. They may have to actually create some content now, I thought. Wrong. They just read out more news clippings and ask you to call in with what you think of them.

Paul | 13 February 2008 - 1:32pm

"your suggestions / opinions"

If it wasn't on so early, there's probably a drinking game to be had based on the number of times you hear Nicky Campbell encouraging listeners to text in to Five Live Breakfast. I'm sure he's not the worst culprit either.

Simon Hoyle | 13 February 2008 - 1:51pm

Who wants to be a Millionaire

Why do some phone a friend's get it wrong? They could surely google "Eleanor of Aquitaine" in 30 seconds.

kb | 13 February 2008 - 2:45pm

Just you wait

until image-matching search engines are perfected. And doubtless audio-matching search engines, too. It's only a matter of time.

Paul Vincent | 13 February 2008 - 3:02pm

T'internet and First Tuesday

I always remember being in a Media Studies class in school in 1988 (aged 14). The text book we were using had a paragraph about innovations and it was heralding the advent of a new form of teletext that could hold over 4 million pages on information. It was called the Arpanet. I was so shocked with this that I purloined the book from the classroom cupboard and kept it. I've just checked it and it says just that!

On other internet related issues I was a regular attendee at those 'First Tuesday' thingys that went on in London for a few years and at the height of the dot com boom there were so many people attending on a monthly basis that they held one at Lords Cricket Ground. (quite nice actually) They got Bob Geldof to make a speech. Nobody paid a blind bit of notice to Bob's speech. There were about 3000 people all trying to strike deals for web businesses that really had no chance of ever turning a profit (selling ice cubes for home delivery? or barrels of oil sold over the internet?). At one stage I looked up and saw Bob staring out into the mass of bodies with the most perplexed look on his face. Then he just got off the stage and went on his merry way - and no one noticed.

I also remember being with a friend when he was buying his first modem. He went in to the shop and asked for a modem (a 14,4!) and the old geezer behind the counter said something along the lines of 'you want to use the internet? We all know why! (wink wink nudge nudge)'. Mortified!

Brian Cleary | 13 February 2008 - 1:46pm

Can anyone remember what

Can anyone remember what people did as a time-wasting distraction from work before the internet? Seriously. I can't people people just sat there, diligently toiling away for the full alloted hours.

Richard Lowe | 13 February 2008 - 2:14pm

toiling away ?

Oh no, in those days when we wanted to waste time we would talk to one another face to face, play games, read magazines and books, mess about with the photocopier or chuck water out of windows....or was that just my office ?

Janice | 13 February 2008 - 2:23pm

Talk and smoke

and read a newspaper.

kb | 13 February 2008 - 2:40pm

When I worked for (removed for legal reasons)

we used to telephone one of the row of call boxes in the street opposite the office.

From our eyrie on the first floor, behind mirror-glass windows, we could watch the pedestrians double-take when they heard the phone ringing. If any of them were kind enough to pick up the call, we could have all kinds of fun.

One favourite was to patch them through to the help-line system run by the local STD clinic, though the best fun was to be had by engaging them in spoof conversations; "Is Brian there, he owes me money from the Post Office blag?" and so on.

Endless hour-burning fun at the customers' expense; not only were they sometimes the unwitting victims, they were also paying the phone bill.

Mea Culpa. (giggle)

Vulpes Vulpes | 13 February 2008 - 4:32pm

FAx machines

I remember the excitement of getting a fax machine in the office - you could even photocopy on it ! How much do they get used these days ? And in my first proper job we used disks which were about 7 inches square and bendy. We also used to produce printouts on huge printers which took long sheets of paper with perforated lines to tear them up, rather than individual sheets of A3/A4 paper. Someone mentioned Wordperfect - I had almost forgotten that existed - but in one workplace we used something called WordStar. And the fact that I learned to type on a big old manual typewriter. And I am only just approaching 42 but I'm making myself feel really old now....

Interestingly, I work at a University and I've been told that large numbers of the current intake of first years already knew one another before they even got to Uni because they'd been making friends and networking on Facebook.

Janice | 13 February 2008 - 2:22pm

I remember a friend's first time using a fax machine...

...he was just out of university, started working and had to fax something over to America. He spent about an hour trying to send the fax through seven or so times before giving up and admitting defeat, wondering why he couldn't get it to work even though he'd followed all the instructions.

At least that's what HE thought. The US office was a bit perplexed as to why they'd got seven or so copies of the same boring and insignificant document.

Thing is, he hadn't quite GOT how faxes work. He was sure that the document hadn't sent because when he put it through the fax machine it popped out of the back... when surely it was supposed to pop out of the back of the machine in the States! Yup, (whether it was too much time watching Tron, being blinded by all this new fangled technamacological stuff or what ever...) he imagined that when you fed a document into the fax it ACTUALLY PHYSICALLY transmitted it down the phone lines a la the transporter in Star Trek! Beam me up Scotty!

True story, honest. Only the names have been omitted to protect the guilty!

Trevor_Raggatt | 14 February 2008 - 4:54pm

This is all a bit 2008, isn't it?

Much as I'm enjoying all of this high-tech nostalgia, it's just dawned on me that when Word celebrates its 10th anniversary we'll probably be looking back on 'broadband', 'blogs' and 'Nicky Campbell' and wondering how the hell we ever put up with such things.

CiaranB | 13 February 2008 - 2:48pm

'Nowstalgia'

has to be the word for it.

Jason Carter | 14 February 2008 - 9:18am

Computers in old films

One night (quite a few years ago) "Presumed Innocent" was on telly - at one point, Harrison Ford goes into his office and sits at his computer and I found myself (rather sadly !) thinking "we've got one of them in our office" and then thinking that it was by far the most useless piece of kit we currently had. And yet, when the film was made, it was probably IBM's state of the art model.

I haven't watched "Wargames" in a while but I bet it's fascinating to look at now.

And Richard Pryor's ultimate computer from "Superman 3" that has to be housed in the Grand Canyon is probably now available as a laptop in your local branch of PC World (although it may not have a Kryptonite beam - that's probably available as a USB plug-in).

Simon Hoyle | 13 February 2008 - 3:55pm

How on earth did we cope

without USB mug heaters?

Vulpes Vulpes | 13 February 2008 - 4:34pm

Old Q magazines

The technology/audio section was one area that I was guaranteed to skip over, but looking at back issues now and it is fascinating. The prices; the sizes; 'separates'; dual cassette decks; the mini-disc....

kb | 13 February 2008 - 4:08pm

and we had to wait for last week's top 40 til tuesday morning

when they were read out on radio 1
meanwhile behind the scenes it wasn't all barcodes and instnt data
the charts were compiled by taking a survey of representative shops, where the store owners recorded all the sales in a book
i remember at (insert record co here) hearing how we used to help the store owners with this onerous task by sending bikes to all the shops we could, collecting the books, and filling in the numbers for them
and people wonder why God Save The Queen didn't make no1
now we can dismiss an artist's career when the first midweek charts come in, and they go from 'priority' to 'dropped' in 24 hours

richie vicious | 15 February 2008 - 9:40pm

Dial up nostalgia

I miss the analogue tones of dial up (which are almost as gone as the pips in a phonebox as you jammed your 2 pence in the slot). That audible code gave me a sense of the linking in to something, casting a net as they clicked and whirred down the wires and through the boxes of Post Office telephone exchanges throughout the Green Line suburban areas all the way to London...not unlike the commentary of an old Public Information Film The other thing I miss about dial up is having a book handy to read while waiting for a web page to load. There's more: I'm getting mutinous with the iPod though, leafing thru racks of LPs you'd come across something and put it on (it kept happening with Moondog for some reason). This just doesn't happen scrolling on the iPod. And with records you had something you could hold, pore over even, which had a decent sized picture on it. How a band finished side one and started side two was always really important, instead of this severed artery of far too much continuous music that the CD and iPod afford us. It's all lost its structure y'see...

PaulB | 13 February 2008 - 7:22pm

Newsgroups and mailing lists

Upon starting my first job after university in 1990 at a networking hardware company, I was introduced to Usenet newsgroups, which even then (before browsers and html) offered a huge range of diversionary activity. Also discovered fan Email mailing lists and signed up for (amongst others) an R.E.M list. 2 months later I got a call from the head of IT to tell me that;

a) We paid for incoming Email/data by the kilobyte

and

b) I had the second highest incoming data bill in the whole company - second only to a guy whose JOB it was to download networking specifications

I got let off with a warning thankfully....

frankandthetwins | 14 February 2008 - 10:20am

I used to work for a large telecoms company...

...whose name is made up of just two letters, you may have heard of them. Anyway, whilst cataloguing some products and tidying a display room one day, I came across some brochures for products of the future. The magazine was from 1979 and it had a mobile phone for sale. So, a mobile, with a retractable aerial (remember them?), no colour screen, one ringtone, no screen let alone colour screen, no text messaging service, a snip at... £1100!

Yes, you did read that price right the first time.

And my favourite line from the entire advert?

"Technology is so advanced that this mobile phone now only weighs the same as a large book..."

feelingsinister | 14 February 2008 - 7:43pm

Karachi calling...

When I started work in 1986 we had a telex machine. I left in 1993 and can confirm that in that time we received precisely one telex. We actually passed this novelty round the office! Although to be fair it had come from Karachi, and was therefore reasonably exotic. Cutting edge! Still no idea how it worked or why it was there. This was an office that had been purpose built 80 odd years before and still had a system of sadly non-functioning 'speaking tubes' that ran between first and second floors - the idea being that you blew into a whistle, long since gone, to attract your secretary's attention on the floor below and then bellowed your instruction down the tube - bring up some coal for the fire etc. How much cooler than internal email is that? Is it possible to be nostalgic for a time before you were born?

StevenC | 14 February 2008 - 10:00pm

we used to have

some bizarre Telex-style machine that would send press releases to customers in Europe but charged you, phone-call style, for the privilege. I once forgot to disconnect over the weekend after one such episode, running a £900 bill for the company. (About a third of our weekly profit, apparently). My appraisal the following week was slightly subdued.

ps Any lapsed goths done the 'it were all Fields o'Nephilim round here in my day' gag yet?

Paul Holmes | 14 February 2008 - 10:35pm

the mobile brick came with a

the mobile brick came with a battery the size of a small briefcase, which had to be on constant charge.

there was such a thing as 'goths' back then?

gaz | 14 February 2008 - 11:36pm

Back bloomin' then?

This was the bleedin'early 90s, squire! We only just got email before I left, and, then, almost hilariously, our Satan-worshipping (allegedly) IT boffin forgot to hand out the password to llog in for several months

Paul Holmes | 15 February 2008 - 1:09am

Re-calling Internet Crazes/Crazies, Rumours, Conspiracies...

1) The Wingding/Webding Anti Semitism claim (type NYC into a Word document, and than change the font to either of them settings)

2) The ''Shock your mates into a twitching, comatose pile of convulsing particles'' with ''Kiki''

3) Tubgirl Image Sharing (DISCLAIMER: Not for the faint hearted)

4) Dancing Baby (sent the disentranced into a spin...and than fucked off)

5) Angry German Kid

6) The rumor that the Coca-Cola serif is a condemnation of Islam when turned vertically.

Liam Hatchet | 15 February 2008 - 1:23pm

The sharing of wisdom

I remember the thrill of logging on back in '99 for the first time, and discovering message boards. For a while it was a joy, and I seriously entertained thoughts that this was an overwhelming force for good and that borders could be broken down.

Now, sadly, the message boards are populated by the bigotted and ignorant fools that we had previously left mumbling in the corner of the pub and logged on to avoid. Thank heaven (or, more accurately, (Development) Hell) for sanctuaries such as this.

renkadima | 15 February 2008 - 1:19pm

Old Word magazines

I was looking through some back issues and there was a picture of 1GB memory stick with a blurb that went something like:

Impress your friends with this huge amount of memory on your keyring...

Yours for only:

£119.99

Now pretty much given away for free with your cornflakes.

Paul Chandler | 15 February 2008 - 4:18pm

Godammit

Have we all missed the whole point of this exercise?

I've been listening to music for nigh on 30 years and until about 3 weeks ago I had never heard "Dark Was The Night, Cold Was The Ground" by Blind Willie Johnson. Woah. Thanks.

Go roll that into your musings on dialups and rollups and iPod shuffles.

makv | 16 February 2008 - 2:16am

The first "word processor" I ever used...

...was the Amstrad PCW 8512. If memory serves it was less than £300. I was one of the "early adopters". In the late-80s it was taken up by all the writers I knew, all of whom learned the hard way that it didn't have a hard drive. Therefore you had to insert one floppy to launch the software and then insert a "data disc" in order to be able to store what you'd written. Many's the night I spent talking down some poor benighted freelance from the ledge where they'd retreated after worrying that their entire week's work had been lost.

David Hepworth | 17 February 2008 - 9:41am

In 1988 I got my first PC.....

...which had a 25Mhz processor (100 times slower than the one I'm using now), 1MB of RAM (2000 times less), a 40MB hard disk (3000 times less) and cost £3000 (6 times more). It had no mouse, no sound, could display a mighty 256 colours & the operating system was DOS - not a Window in sight. In about 2 years it was obsolete because it couldn't handle the version of Lotus 1-2-3 my company standardised on and wasn't upgradeable. It was, to all intents and purposes, a big calculator.

johnsey | 17 February 2008 - 10:09pm

I had the next one up

the PCW9512. I had forgotten about the disc-swapping thing until you mentioned it and then it all came back to me. It didn't seem clunky at the time and I still have a sneaking fondness for the "Locoscript" word-processing software, which I remember as being blessedly easy to use, unlike certain programs I could mention.

My father always wins any Four Yorkshiremen-like reminiscences about computers because he was among the first commercial programmers and used to do a huge oil company's group accounts on a computer that took up a whole room and had 4k of memory. No, that's not a typo, I really do mean 4k.

Oh, and he also had one of these.

http://www.vintagecalculators.com/html/texas_instruments_2500.html

It was the size and weight of a house brick and had to be recharged after about ten minutes of totting up the household finances. They have one in the Smithsonian now. God, I feel old.

Dowsabel | 18 February 2008 - 12:10am

I remember...

having to walk almost a mile to make a phone call because the three pay phones in our area had been dismantled by some kind souls!! I also remember a friend buying what I think was a Commodore 64 back in the 1980s. It came with a book that gave instructions on how to construct your own games, some of which were about 20 pages long! If you made a mistake on page 19 you had to start all over again!!

humphreym | 17 February 2008 - 12:51pm

Does any remember...

..."Input" magazine? early/mid 80s mag for owners of ZX81/Spectrum and involved typing in bucket-loads of script to get the computer to do some really naff graphic or movement that lasted about 1 second. Lots of "goto line 10" type commands.

Also, i had a ZX81 and remember loading games by cassette which took hours, seemingly, and were, inevitable, totally rubbish.

Fond memories also of the geeks in the school computer lab going crazy evey breaktime playing with Acorns, BBC Model Bs, C64s etc.

Phil Hart | 18 February 2008 - 9:27am

As soon as you mention BBC Model Bs

I think of Elite, the greatest computer game ever in the history of the known universe, a port of which I have on this very laptop.

I still enjoy the odd blast out into the void from time to time, hoping to get the mission to rescue settlers before the star explodes.

Halo? Who he?

Vulpes Vulpes | 19 February 2008 - 2:18pm

Anyone remember

those old video recorders where the buttons actually stuck out from the machine, and you'd have to forcefully and with expert timing hold down both record and play to actually record anything?

Lucas Hare | 20 February 2008 - 1:11pm

The early video remote controls

Were connected to the VCR by a stout cable, thereby not being very remote.

David Hepworth | 20 February 2008 - 3:07pm

In a roundabout way

I remember my Mum holding down 'record' and 'play' with great purpose and importance to record the Whistle Test Bruce Springsteen special back in about 1984 or 1985. It was one of her most treasured videos, so thanks to DH. Don't know where it is now.

Lucas Hare | 20 February 2008 - 3:53pm

Maybe soon..

Remember how in 2008...

Computers were still complicated and unreliable to the point where...
a) Outright replacement was an absolute necessity every 18 months
b) Performance sagged enormously within weeks (days, even) or ownership
c) Armies of so-called IT experts rushed to your door to wreck the thing some more

Also...

d) Whilst everybody owned a PC, no-one really understood how to operate one properly
e) Download times were primitive - An hour to get hold of a DVD was considered rocket speed
f) Spotty geeks with modems and off-shore ISPs earned fortuned from scarcely-believable phishing scams

kinkywolfgang | 22 February 2008 - 10:25am

And some

And deleting unwanted postings on The Word Blog was still impossble...

kinkywolfgang | 22 February 2008 - 10:28am

Internet and a rubber keyboard

From January 1989. Take a look..."You have mainframe power inside your Spectrum!"

ftp://ftp.worldofspectrum.org/pub/sinclair/magazines/YourSinclair/Issue3...

ManScared | 22 February 2008 - 10:44am