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Remake/Remodel...Rebuy?

Neil Walker's picture

We all know it's wrong to 'steal' music but is it less wrong, verging on perfectly acceptable, to illegally download remastered editions of albums you've already bought? Sometimes, more than once!

Everyone's getting very excited about The Beatles remastered albums but shouldn't they and other CDs have been mastered correctly originally?! Isn't this yet another music industry scam?

I'm resisting buying the remastered The Stone Roses 20th Anniversary Edition, for example, despite adoring that album. It sounds fantastic (on Spotify) compared to the flat audio on the 1989 disc though.

So, would it be wrong to not reward the record label who botched the job in the first place and replace the previously paid for CD via other means?

The Massive's help on this tricky moral dilemma would be much appreciated.

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I don't think it's that they

I don't think it's that they were badly mastered in the first place just that it was limited by the technology available then. Mind you I have no knowledge or experience of recording so am probably wrong.
I also refused to buy the reissue of The Stone Roses as they've taken the piss more then the Beatles have for this sort of thing.Although I don't actually own any Beatles stuff so may be tempted this time.

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dmc911 | 9 September 2009 - 12:55pm

I think you've got a fair point

I bought the Beatles albums when they first came out in the 60s, bought stereo versions in the 70s, the full set of 45s when they were first reissued later in that decade and then I bought them all over again on CD. In the case of "Let It Be" I was offered the chance to buy it once more as "Let It Be Naked".

I wonder if I could justifiably claim to have bought these records by now. I'd be interested to know what EMI's lawyers have to say about this.

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David Hepworth | 9 September 2009 - 1:18pm

yep

it would possible (I imagine) to own the same Elvis track on 78, 45 ,33 lp, reel to reel tape, 8 track, musicassette, cd, dat, minidisc, video, laser disc, dvd, mp3 download oh and blue ray.

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Chris G | 9 September 2009 - 1:28pm

I'd be interested to know what EMI's lawyers have to say...

I think I have a pretty good idea about what they would have to say.

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jburton | 9 September 2009 - 1:26pm

After seeing Control

I Limewired several choice Joy Division tracks - I have them on vinyl and tape, all the albums and singles. They've had enough of my cash, so I figured it was ok. I wouldn't do it to a new artist.

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Mr Drayton | 9 September 2009 - 1:26pm

ah but the remains of Joy Division

didn't get your money it went into the rates and lecky bill for the Hacienda so you'd better send a cheque to Hooky et al.

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Chris G | 9 September 2009 - 1:30pm

They would..

..vehemently disagree.

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shane pacey | 9 September 2009 - 1:26pm

I Don't Get this Logic...

It's like saying that every time BMW bring out an updated model they should upgrade all existing owners of the previous model - FOR FREE ! It's ridiculous. Record companies spent money creating the original product, and are seeking ways of maximising their return by offering improved versions of the original over time. In the Beatles case, the cost of the re-mastering has been significant. Why should you get it for nothing ?

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Excitable Boy | 9 September 2009 - 1:46pm

Hardly a relevant juxtaposition......

I'd say it's more akin to buying Windows XP and then downloading the patches that make it work better/safer - (coded by staff who have to be paid and hich Microsoft provide free).

You've paid for the original product - the intellectual rights and publishing have been satisfied - the record company are just polishing what was wrong in the first place.

Not as if the alloy wheels needed those carbon fibre brakes...

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Six Dog | 9 September 2009 - 2:25pm

not quite John...

if you bought Windows 2.0 in 1988 and were happy with it, 'cos it was as good as the technology was at the time, are you telling me that you're entitled to a free upgrade to, I dunno, whatever the hellfire is the latest Microsoft OS?

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ivan | 9 September 2009 - 2:52pm

But.

Anyone who purchased Windows 2.0 in 1998 and was happy with it is demonstrably clinically insane.

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Vulpes Vulpes | 9 September 2009 - 7:13pm

(No subject)

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nicktf | 9 September 2009 - 9:04pm

In all fairness

anyone who purchased Windows 2.0 in 1988 and was happy with wasn't exactly compos mentis either.

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illuminatus | 9 September 2009 - 9:30pm
Doods | 9 September 2009 - 6:08pm

Or maybe buy say the stereo remaster and download the mono

for example. But only on the proviso that you'd, say shelled out £280 in the official liverpool beatles shop in 1998 for the full set in a breadbin. Yes that would be fair i think. Hypothetically speaking.

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sandamiano | 9 September 2009 - 7:20pm

The Beatles Experience

... or whatever it's called, were on the TV last night. Someone was buying one of the boxsets for (I think I heard this correctly) £250...

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Andrew F | 10 September 2009 - 2:33pm

How about this scenario...

I've found myself in a situation where I own a cd, have put it into storage, and fancy listening to it again.

Would it be naughty to download it, to save me the ball ache of finding it?

Stop press.... I have Spotify Mobile now, so problem solved - but nevertheless, an interesting moral point.

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tkdmart | 9 September 2009 - 9:58pm

Decisions, decisions

Agree with the 'I wouldn't do it to new artists' view. Decided to buy the remastered Past Masters CD which I haven't bought before...and will take it from there.

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Neil Walker | 12 September 2009 - 5:43am

Here's the Gun...

And here's your head.

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bricameron | 12 September 2009 - 5:59am

Beatles on vinyl..

..it's the only way to go.
If you have them (I do) don't give those twats at Apple/EMI any more money.

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shane pacey | 12 September 2009 - 7:54am

What about this?

If I ripped my entire CD collection to iTunes and then sold the CDs off would the ripped versions still be legal?

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GunsOfBrixton | 12 September 2009 - 8:06am
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