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REM Call It a Day
Posted by NJC on 21 September 2011 - 6:34pm.
Seems that its the end of the road:
http://remhq.com/news_story.php?id=1446
Wonder if they've been reading the 'When You Know They've Peaked REM' thread http://www.wordmagazine.co.uk/content/when-you-know-theyve-peaked-rem
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Very sad here
I have just joined the world of Twitter and saw it 20 mins ago. Have to say: devastated.
If I may be so bold,
What's your Twitter name? (I'm guessing it's not @kb, because I've just looked at his profile and he's written 27,500 tweets, and that'd be some going if you've just joined).
Sad news and I'll miss them
but many thanks, guys, for tons of great music. And top marks for having the courage and honesty and dignity to wind it up when you thought the time was right.
Wow.
I read the statements from Mike, Michael and Peter and felt really moved. God. This is a weird feeling.
I've been a huge, huge R.E.M. fan since I was thirteen: I love them possibly more than any band in my whole history of loving music, even though I've not felt their more recent records have cut it. I've often thought and said that they should pack it in, and now they have. The world doesn't have R.E.M. in it any more. That is odd, to me.
A big part of my love of them is actually that I feel - hokey as it sounds - like I know them as people. That makes them more special to me than other bands in my personal canon who have never let me down musically, like Pixies. R.E.M. *have* let me down a few times, but I never stopped loving them, because I sort of loved *them*, not just their records. You can't really do that with Black Francis.
"It Crawled From The South" was the first band biog I ever read. I know tons of stuff about their personal histories, where the songs came from, how Michael recorded his vocals on "Murmur" (occasionally with a bin on his head for muffling purposes, fact fans). I know that, in the background on "Perfect Circle", you can hear Bill Berry playing pool. They were the first band I did that with: hungrily sought information, usually of the most worryingly nerdile type. There was a period of my life between 1991 and 1999 that I was heavily emotionally invested in them. I remember my friend Heather wrote to Mike Mills once and received a lovely handwritten note back. I was indescribably envious.
I guess, at the back of my mind, I always hoped they'd pull one last absolute classic out of the bag. They never did, and there's very little of their output from this century that I truly rate (I think "The Great Beyond" was the last thing). But now they're properly gone, and I don't know how to feel about that, apart from strangely and unspecifically emotional. I'll really miss them.
Think Billy Berry playing pool
is on We Walk on Murmur. Sorry. *Sob*
Of course.
You're quite right. Evidently my true nerd days are behind me!
These threads are waaaay more influential
than any of us realise, it would seem...
Seriously though, REM are a great band who've made so much of my favourite music over the years & I will miss them.
I began to miss them when Bill Berry left but that's been discussed already.
Good luck to the guys.
I'll miss them too
Collapse into Now was a great record in my opinion and I'm glad they're going out on a high - if not quite at their peak :)
Should've Gone Years Ago, Sadly.
They were well past their sell-by date years ago and I gave up on them when Stipe turned into a Premiere-Attending Socialite. Bah.
Instead, I shall remember them this way, from one of my most favourite records ever, ever, ever.
50/50 with you
They were a formidable live act until the end - those Dublin "live rehearsals" were terrific, a band firing on all cylinders and having fun with it. They still had their moments on record, too.
However, this kind of thing - http://www.murmurs.com/topic/117870-michael-stipe-in-the-latest-issue-of... is the kind of rock star bollocks that makes me sad.
Well I *used* to like them a lot.
But the last one on my shelf is called Monster. I bought 'em all up to that point, and played them to bits. Have I missed anything?
The last one I bought was 'Up'...
and I've always rated that as a very good record. Different from their "classic period", but beautiful music nevertheless. Everything I've heard after that sounds like R.E.M. by numbers, although I must be honest and admit that I haven't been listening very closely.
A close listener writes...
...I think you're spot on, Patrick. "Up" was the last record where I felt they were really trying to do something new. Everything after that has sounded to me like retreads. Some of them were more successful retreads than others, but retreads they were, to my ears.
Spot on, Bob
Up is a favourite of mine - especially as it contains, in 'At My Most Beautiful', one of the two best Beach Boys tracks that the Beach Boys didn't make. (The other is, of course, 'Pale And Precious' by the Dukes of Stratosphear).
Can someone help me?
I ordered a compilation album from NME or Melody Maker in '81-'82 and I'm sure it had an REM track on it called "Green". I'm no REM fan but I seem to remember that I liked that track. It had New Model Army on it as well if that helps. A search only brings up the album "Green".
More likely something off the Chronic Town EP?
Their first issued recordings I think
Side one – "Chronic Town"
"Wolves, Lower" – 4:10
"Gardening at Night" – 3:29
"Carnival of Sorts (Box Cars)" – 3:54
Side two – "Poster Torn"
"1,000,000" – 3:06
"Stumble" – 5:40
Pretty good but not as good as Murmur and especially not as good as The Reckoning. They were a wonderful, jangly, different and very smart band then. Very loose rhythm section and not too many mandolins.
I must admit they stopped having the power to tug at my heart on AFTP - a record I really enjoy and even admire but which never possessed me. Sorry they've gone but then again it was 31 years - and I stopped loving them to bits 20 years ago.
I Remember in the 1970s as a young teenager feeling it odd that the rock and rollers from the fifties - who were probably all in their 30s - were still playing. I long ago lost that snobbery, and if they were still playing well and loved it why not carry on. But as to creating something vital and new, very few bands have more than ten years in them...
My memory lets me down again
For 1981 read 1983
For NME / Melody Maker read Jamming Magazine
For New Model Army read The Redskins
For Green read "Gardening At Night"
It was called "A New Optimism" I love the internet me...
http://www.remweb.net/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=2207&sid=2b769da5240b3501ae7...
Forget the records
of generally diminishing returns, no more opportunities to see a great live band do their thing.
However, I think they are currently auditioning for the official REM tribute band....
I'm off to play Document and remember what an impact that album had on my sixteen year old mind.
Ben Elton is pitching a musical
at this very moment
It's the End of The World As We Know It.
I can see it now.
Young Michael brings together a gang of outsiders from the badlands of Athens GA, to prevent "The Man" in Washington from providing leaflets to the poor children in US schools that advertise the benefits of eating meat. Methane is killing the world.
Cast members include John Barrowman (it is written in law that Barrowman is in every West End Musical), Gary Willmot and Al Pacino.
Turns out the allotment which supplies all their vegetable needs
can only be tended during the hours of darkness...
There's a subplot...
...about Wolverhampton Wanderers' inexorable slide down the league, as well.
Also a cameo from Michael Sheen...
... doing Peter Sellers doing Clouseau doing The Wake Up Beumb
That would allow them
to leverage an additional funding stream...which I'm sure is what they planned when the band got together.
What could be better than to know people are still enjoying your songs, whilst munching on a bag of maltesers ?
Rock
and dare I say it
Roll.
Sad but dignified
I 've loved REM since an American friend sent me a tape of Murmur and Chronic Town. I haven't been paying attention recently, I must admit, but to be honest I can't think of anyone whose latest release I'd run out and buy.
So I feel sad but also glad that they've parted as friends. The friendship thing was as important to me as the music, I think - not least because the friend who sent me the tape died a few years back.
It is no doubt entirely unreasonable of me but if it had ended in acrimony, I'd have felt let down. As it is, I don't - and for that, as for so much else, REM have my profound gratitude. Happy trails guys.
R.E.M.
They were the first band I ever got into. The first eleven records I ever bought were all by R.E.M. and they were the first band I ever saw live. And yet, I'm strangely unmoved by the news of their split, primarily because they've done little to interest me since Bill Berry left.
Still, I wish them all the best.
REM
It was all a dream.
Chronic Town, Murmur, Reckoning...
...Fables and Lifes Rich Pageant.
All classics.
Give it five years or so and they'll be back. They don't realise it now but there will be "unfinished business" to attend to.
Bit sad
They were a big band for me once in a while but kind of faded away some time ago, though I still like their early funny ones.
I am sadder than I thought I would be
to hear this. REM meant a hell of a lot to me, from passing tapes of Document around at school to seeing them at Marlay Park in Dublin and losing it when they started with Begin The Begin.
I really liked CIN as well. Shame they couldn't try to fit in one last ball game before dark.
Eight really good, really interesting albums in a row
and the last of those was arguably as good as the first. That's almost the "Hepworth Good Album Run Principle" x3, and only Bowie, The Beatles, Bob, and The Stones have been so consistent.
If they'd gone after NAIH-F they'd be as big a part of the rock canon as Led Zep; even they were forgiven their last two duds.
Every album they released after that dented their halo just a little bit more than the one before, and I hope that they'll eventually be recognised for the great group they once were.
You're right
they were one of the great groups. I don't understand the notion that making lesser albums later on detracts from an act's finest acheivements, though it seems to in some peoples eyes. Dylan, The Stones, Neil Young have all declined from their classic periods, obviously, yet classics are classics. Records should stand alone - they do for me.
They ARE Going Out On A High
I'm saddened to read this, and massively glad I got to see them last time they were over here. Absolutely brilliant it was. (Setlist here: http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/rem/2008/old-trafford-cricket-ground-manch...)
I strongly believe that they are going out on a high. Bill Berry's last, New Adventures... would have been something of a high, Up is great but would have been a wierd album to end on (it feels more like a beginning), Reveal is probably their weakest LP (in my opinion), Around The Sun is good but only half of it is great, then the last 2? Superb! Accelerate and Collapse Into Now sound like albums made by a "live band", one of their greatest strengths, along with the return of Mike Mills' vocals, the missing piece of the previous couple of albums.
Like Bob, they are one of my all time favourites and again, probably the band I know the most of and the most about, including as individuals. I have VHS tapes of them filled with episodes of Planet Rock Profile and the like. Several books, plenty of bootlegs too.
The fact that they didn't tour this last record, at the time just seemed like a break from it (they didn't tour Out Of Time or Automatic.. either) but now it seems like this decision was probably made a while ago.
I'm aware that I'm rambling.
Here's one of my favourites from the old VHS tapes, which someone has kindly put on youtube. A clip from Rough Cut, a documentary following the '95 tour:
I hope there's more music coming from them, in some form or other. Peter Buck is generally the most active in that field and the Robyn Hitchcock & The Venus 3 records have been excellent.
First CD I ever bought
Automatic For The People was the first CD I ever bought. I still consider myself a big fan even if, like many others, I feel that they've been off the boil for years. Only saw them live once, headlining at Glasto 2003. They were amazing. They most definitely did some old. I'd always hoped to see them again some day...
First CD I ever owned
was Green
Got it from some competition on the back of a Kit-Kat wrapper.
Had to say what format you wanted (order of preference) and which of 3 or 4 albums you wanted.
So I said Green, LP, Cassette, CD. That order because I didn't own a CD player.
Good old Rowntrees (Nestle hadn't bought them yet) of course sent me the CD. Which sat unheard on my shelf for about 5 years, when I eventually bought a CD player.
I may be going against the
I may be going against the grain but I actually grew to love some of the tracks off Reveal and Around The Sun. I can't subscribe to the common belief that they were total write off's. They just needed more listens than most people were prepared to give at that stage of their career. I think people maybe got a bit bored and dismissive. Give the albums another try. There are riches there to be had.
Reveal
You're not entirely alone, I thought Reveal had several wonderful moments. I'll Take the Rain is one of my favourite REM tracks, as is Imitation of Life.
It was the last album of theirs I ever bought though. I don't know if I could even name any REM tracks post-Reveal. Clearly time to investigate further.
Kind of agree
In that I liked Reveal, but Around the Sun was the first one to leave me cold. Accelerate had some good stuff on it though, and was commendably short at 30 minutes or so.
Have to say the split bothers me far less than I would have expected. I'm a bit surprised really - surely they could just do whatever they fancied, and reconvene as R.E.M. whenever they felt like it.
Leaving New York
One of their greatest moments and the nearest Stipe gets to a confessional.
Same
I do think that they are possibly their 2 weakest albums, but they are still by no means bad. Both have some excellent songs on, in particular I Wanted To Be Wrong and The Ascent Of Man from Around The Sun.
I've mentioned this before, but I absolutely love the version of I'll Take The Rain from the free R.E.M.ix album. Get it here! http://remhq.com/extras/remix/remix.html
A cynic writes...
... their iTunes sales are about to go through the roof. This one goes out to their marketing advisor.
Inevitably
There's a new hits album in November.
that was my first thought too
could be a bit pompous and certainly know the shiny side of a shilling. Still one of my favourite bands though, the only one I've ever seen twice
well you either get the iTunes bump by quitting
or dying. I know which I'd plump for.
Apparently on hearing the news, several hundred R.E.M. fans immediately declared "Call it a Day" to be a return to form.
They are now sobbing the sweet, sweet tears of relief.
[For the record, I think R.E.M. made several really great records.]
One of the best bands ever
Back in the day (I can hear you yawning), the bands that REALLY mattered to me were The Smiths & R.E.M. In the early days I used to think The Smiths & R.E.M. were running parallel, each releasing great albums every year. Of course The Smiths came to a premature end & R.E.M. went on to become massive with Out of Time & Automatic, but I think they kicked open a few doors in the US, the same as The Smiths did here.
Obviously their best work was past them but there have been some great moments since. At My Most Beautiful is one of my all time favourites & Collapse Into Now was a very good return to form in my view.
Will miss them.
Oh Good!
a band that's been making the same album since the mid 80s packs it in.
Yay! say I.
Yeah, right.
Murmur doesn't sound like Automatic, which doesn't sound like Up, which doesn't sound like Accelerate.
They do
to me, dull monotonous drag.
Then you'll be wanting a
Then you'll be wanting a thread about a band you are interested in, surely?
Calm down la'
Surely I'm free to express my feelings amongst 'web mates' about a band I feel are lauded, yet I don't get. I remember seeing them do Old Man Kinsey on OGWT and getting Fables of the Reconstruction of the Fables... and actually quite enjoying it. After that everything they did sounded exactly the same, to me. There's no way I'm gonna try and convince people on here how great Megadeth are but surely I can say when a band that bored 'thi erse aff me' throws the towel in?
You see, that I get. But
You see, that I get. But 'all sounds the same'. That I don't get, because their output really doesn't all sound the same. I mean, they never quite pulled a 'look dad, no tunes' left turn like Radiohead did, but they certainly mixed it up. The mumbly IRS years sound different to their early, more acoustic Warners stuff, then they went a bit experimental for NAIHF and UP before noodling around a bit, and finally going back to a more live rock sound on Accelerate and Collapse.
It just confuses me when people come into threads about bands they don't like and say they don't like them - just don't see the point.
Of course you can say that you don't like them
..but you're implying that their music has not changed over 26 years, which is rather silly imho.
New Adventures in Hi Fi
was 15 years ago. Crikey
It's amazing isn't it?
That's the last time my heart was broken, New Adventures helped it to heal, just hearing any part of any track can bring back feelings so raw I have to take a little time out, thankfully it ends with Electrolite, a song so cathartic it should be on prescription.
I lost REM around Up but the last two albums had started to reel me back in, just last week the Dublin rehearsals LP's arrived at chez D, one listen is all they've had so far, this news will be linked to every future listen.
it will crawl again from the south
I don't care if the recent stuff isn't considered to be as good as the older stuff. I love them anyway.
And I'm booking my tickets now for the comeback tour in 2017.
They should stay together
but not record or tour - they could hire a lookie-likie band to go on the road for them. Apparently that would be really really good.
Not really a surprise,
and they leave a hell of a legacy behind. I had forgotten them up till tonight and have gone back to Murmur which is still one mighty fine album. My favourite though is New Adventures in Hi-Fi, though must go back to Up - saw them at Earl's Court around that time and they were excellent, even from the back of the hall.
I saw them in '84 I think.
They played to a half empty SFX Hall in Dublin and I went along with friends of mine who had cooler taste than me (not any more they don't!). It had it's moments - the early jangly stuff and the wonderful accapella Moon River as an encore but they lost me in the middle with a psychedelic wig out while Michael Stipe read Jim Morrison poetry (I think) out loud. So I had started to dislike them before most of you had even heard of them.
There's a photograph of me with the band...That's me in the corner...
Oh yes, of course...
because none of us were around in 1983.
I was six.
Silly me for not having heard of them.
Call yourself
a fan? :-)
I know! Bloody part timers.
I saw them on the same tour
in a little club in Cardiff. Fantastic they were too; probably still the best gig I've been too.
Retrospective Title
Not Before Time
I find it very odd
that they're not doing a farewell tour or at least a 'final show'.
If they really are bowing out on such good terms with each other (and I don't doubt that they are) why would they not do this? Both as a great chance for the band and fans to say a proper goodbye and as a very lucrative cap on their career ('final show' DVDs are always huge sellers).
But for me personally, the one time I saw them live was Glastonbury 2003, and that's a very happy memory (I even got to shake Michael Stipe's hand!) So no regrets.
They're saving it for
the inevitable reformation. Perhaps they can do a triple bill with Oasis and the White Stripes in 2018
I think REM had been sidelined
I don't read up avidly on everything that its members were doing individually but I'd got the impression their hearts were all in other pies, if you'll excuse the jumbled metaphor.
My tuppence about the split? Bob has it on the nail: I feel weirdly bereft of something and oddly proud of having been along for the ride. My life really wouldn't have been the same without this one rock band. Not sure how many others I can say that for.
Homer says
"Heart pie...mmmmmmmmmmm!"
Peter Buck speaking in 1998
"I just never in my wildest dreams thought that someone in the band would quit while we're doing great work. My picture that I have of us breaking up is that we'd do a couple of really bad records...and then we'd go to a Chinese restaurant and get drinks with umbrellas in them and say 'you know guys it's been a really haul but we just don't have it anymore', you know, and have a good toast and go home"
REM to split?
We now cross to Battery Sergeant Major Tudor Brynne 'Shut Up' Williams for a statement regarding this important breaking news:
"Oh dear. How sad. Never mind".
They
passed me by I'm afraid.
Heard snatches on the radio every now and then. Struck me as a mite 'meh'.
Everybody Hurts
Sad news, but a relief in a way. Their last album was very good, but it did feel like they were running over the same ground, year after year. I really liked some of their latter day albums though, Up and Reveal, both were different and fresh sounding. New Adventures In Hi Fi is for me, their last great album. I first heard it on a listening post in a big record store in Paris and always associate that album with that city. We'll have always have Paris, but not R.E.M. anymore.
A great band
Sad news.
I am a real fan of all of their stuff but haven't heard Collapse Into Now yet so I am off to investigate further.
I don't understand why the announcement
Surely if they went away and didn't do anything for 3 or 4 years nobody would notice, and then they may feel different about recording something again.
This way they would have to announce that they were getting back together and have to put up with a load of publicity about that......ahhhh
Tribute
I'm going to cash in and form a tribute band called R.A.M.
Interesting
You could do Macca songs in a Stipey Style.
Spooky.
Just before leaving for work this morning I remembered I needed a new cd to listen to in the car (yes, I know it's old skool!).
Grabbed 'NAIH-F' cos I'd not given it a spin in a while.
Walked into work, first thing I heard on the shop floor radio was the news that they'd split up.
Coincidence?
Yes!
Phew....
....thank fxxk for that!!
Oh, Massivers, I feel a list coming on...
Dozen favourite R.E.M. albums, in order:
1. Automatic for the People
2. Document
3. Murmur
4. Up
5. Fables of the Reconstruction
6. Reckoning
7. New Adventures in Hi-Fi
8. Lifes Rich Pageant
9. Green
10. Out of Time
11. Monster
12. Reveal
--------------
Michael, Peter, Mike, Bill. You made some fine records.
You can have my top 5.
1 - NAIHF
2 - Automatic
3 - Pageant
4 - Green
5 - Up
Alrighty then.
1. Out Of Time
2. Murmur
3. Document
4. Reckoning
5. Automatic For The People
6. New Adventures in Hi-Fi
7. Up
8. Lifes Rich Pageant
9. Monster
10. Fables of the Reconstruction
And as for songs (this is harder, so in no particular order):
1. Fall On Me
2. Country Feedback
3. Harborcoat
4. How The West Was Won And Where It Got Us
5. Crush With Eyeliner
6. Fireplace
7. Half A World Away
8. Catapult
9. Walk Unafraid
10. Find The River
My 10
1. Fables of the Reconstruction
2. Murmur
3. Out of Time
4. Automatic for the People
5. Life's Rich Pageant
6. Monster
7. Green
8. New Adventures in Hi-Fi
9. Reckoning
10. Document
My 10
1) Reckoning
2) Life's Rich Pageant
3) New Adventures in Hi-Fi
4) Document
5) Reconstruction Of The Fables
6) Monster
7) Green
8) Out Of Time
9) Reveal
10) Automatic For the People
Hurrah!
Hurrah! and thrice hurrah!
Its all Bob's fault
And my mate who sells bootlegs in Camden will be upset as will mean one of his best customer, a Mr P Buck, will be visiting the UK less regularly in the future
FWIW
1. Automatic (got me through lovesick Christmas 1992. It might be full of over familiar hit songs but they echo into my soul)
2. Document (spiky)
3. New Adventures (if only all albums made on tour sounded like this)
4. Accelerate (a rock n roll album)
5. Green (think this was the first time I became aware of them)
6. Up (a "dog with three legs" makes a defiantly good record)
7. Monster (criminally discarded after the media love notes to Automatic. Maybe its because they toured and became less remote)
8. Fables (sounded like hell recording it but has some of their best work)
9. Life's Rich Pageant (have neglected it of late but recent deluxe edition has made me fall in love again)
10. Murmur (a real shock to the system)
Reckoning...
... not even in the top 10. Is this some sort of a joke?
Nope its an opinion
others are available
I'm guessing...
... you forgot about it and rather than admit you're wrong you're going down the old opinion route - just an opinion.
Reckoning
I'm not a particular fan of Reckoning either. It might not have made my Top 10 if I'd heard the later few albums.
Yes...
... but it did make your top 10, and wouldn't you have listened to some of the later albums if you'd thought REM were still worth listening to?
GHave up on the later
stuff after Reveal. Was a massive fan of their earlier stuff before they became a stadium band. Coincidentally just come back from New York with their best of IRS years double which I got for the princely sum of usd 7.99 which might just be my bargain of the year.
Is that the one with the DVD?
A bargain at any price! Playing it now...
Here's my thing with REM
I'll miss them, but I was never a diehard fan. I have a heap of albums, but the ones the fans love, leave me cold, and the ones that the fans pour scorn on (Reveal, Around the Sun), I kinda like.
They'll always, just a few bars into certain songs, take me instantly to a time and place of warmer summers and growing up. As soon as I hear the guitar strum of Half a World Away, I'm transported back to the roof of a pub I had my first 'grown up' summer job (in That London), and the realisation that in a few weeks I'd be a-going to college.
What's the Frequency Kenneth takes me to sweeping leaves in the summer of 1995, when I had to work for my dole. Two things entered my head (along with 'this rocks')
a) The new album won't be like the last one
b) I like that bassline.
My interest in them waxed and waned after that. They played in the Brixton Academy in 2003, and that was a good gig and then the 2007 show in the Olympia in Dublin was good, marred only by the fact that, by the end, myself and Eoin were so drunk that when the text came from Fanning (his mate in RTE) that we could crash the after-party, we were slobbering over kebabs in Zaytoon.
I'll miss them. Like I say, I wan't their biggest fan, but they soundtracked an awful lot of good times and it was nice to have them there.
Ooooh Zaytoon kebab... drooooooooooool
Couldn't agree more, particularly with your final paragraph. Up on the way...
Never gave them a thought after 'Pageant'
The 'REM' sound by that point was swamping North American indie and they started to sound like everyone else, only less enthusiastic. The odd hit single they produced didn't revive my previous slavering adoration, which encompassed their first 4 lps and two devastating live shows (touring Reckoning and Fables). I will always hold those early lps in unwavering esteem, but can't find a dimension to their later work that sustains any interest.
Meanwhile...
From the Daily Mash:
U2 still refusing to take the hint
Lucky I'm Alone In The Office Moment #422
Just cackled loudly. "A big pot of macaroni cheese" indeed. LOLZ.
RIP REM
I remember the shock to my own teenage system when I first heard "Radio Free Europe" - Peter Powell (of all people) played it on his Radio 1 show.
A guy I knew at sixth form college (the same one that Brett Anderson attended, he said smugly) taped me the first two albums, but got "Murmur" the wrong way round so it started with Side 2, so "Catapult" was my album/tape opener for years. As I've said before in other threads, that song can have a weird impact on my emotions and I've no idea why (maybe... "Ooh, we were little boys...").
I stayed a fan until "Automatic..." then I guess I got bored. I missed out on their later albums while listening to other things. I definitely preferred the earlier, more murmur-y stuff, but Bob's point about "Pageant"/"Document" is a good one - the sound of a cult band audibly spreading its wings and flying off the cliff of success. Personally, I think "Green" is the best of their albums from that period, though I love "Automatic..." as well.
My two-pennyworth of off-the-top-of-head REM favourites:
1,000,000
Wolves, Lower
Catapult
Sitting Still
Seven Chinese Bros
S.Central Rain
Maps and Legends
Auctioneer
Crazy
Hyena
Fall On Me
Superman
Swan Swan H
Finest Worksong (but I insist on the brass-polished single)
Fireplace
Oddfellows Local 151
Strange
(pauses for breath)
Pop Song 89
Get Up
The Wrong Child
Country Feedback
Find The River
Strange Currencies (prefer this to "Everybody...")
Phew. Who'd have thought I could do all that in a lunch hour?
Some great songs in that list, m.o.s.
Hyena, So. Central Rain, Sitting Still, Seven Chinese Bros, 1,000,000. All amazing songs that could easily have made my list too.
Maps and Legends
The best R.E.M. track ever IMHO.
Closely followed by Losing My Religion.
The 'Inevitable Reformation'
Call me a naive old fool if you like (Paul - you're a naive old fool) but I'm not sure they will do the reform thing.
If they'd just wanted to go away and do different things for a few years, to reconvene in 2017 or whenever, then they would have done. They didn't have to split up to do that.
The nature of the announcement, and the comments from all three remaining members, have a real air of finality about them. And in a strange way, the very amicability of the split makes it feel a lot more final to me - it's not as if one of them has flounced after throwing a strop that they might 'repent at leisure'...
Obviously the financial attraction of a reformation down the tracks will be there, but none of them really need any more money, do they? And because of the equitable songwriting split, they won't have the 'keyboard player in penury' reason to get back together.
I honestly think they all feel the thing has run its course, and there is no unfinished business that could be resurrected down the line.
The ONLY scenario I can see a reformation fitting is a major Stipe-led charity-type bash - another Live 8 or something.
So now you can all save this post away somewhere and mock me in 2014...
It's funny Paul
after sleeping off my jetlag I was about to come on here and post the same thing. I don't think this will be the end of live performances and am pretty sure we will see them around some time in a couple of years.
This seems to be
a certain generation's Amy Winehouse moment.
There is a general sense of loss and sadness at the demise of a band that was very important to a great many people on these pages and across social network sites.
They were the people's band. I will leave flowers outside the Milton Keynes Bowl with a bowl of macrobiotic rice.
Yes
Hugely important - I'd argue that they pretty much singlehandedly rescued US rock in the early 80s.
Their sound at the outset was utterly distinctive and utterly compelling. They also seemed to kickstart some sort of college rock scene, with people like the Paisley Underground bands, Miracle Legion, The Long Ryders, Guadalcanal Diary, and others seeming to get attention in their wake (though none of those bands really matched them).
For me it's definitely a Winehouse moment. "Murmur" and "Reckoning" helped save my teenage life.
Adore "Find The River"
mostly for (I assume Mike's) wonderful piano part
sorry
double post madness!
True
Mike Mills' contributions aren't exactly underrated but deserve attention. His vocal harmonies - or rather, cross-harmonies - were also brilliant.
Was so sad when I heard......
that I fell into my curry.........That's me in the korma !!!!
Thank you REM
This news has made me sad, I think because it brings back such great memories of enjoying REM in my youth.
I first saw them on 24 April 1984 at the Tin Can Club in Birmingham. I was 17 and a relatively inexperienced gig-goer and thought it perfectly acceptable to bellow out the name of my favourite song (‘(Don’t Go Back to) Rockville’) during any quiet moments. In short I was being (what I believe is called in these here parts) a f***wit. Eventually Michael Stipe sighed and said with a cross between a grimace and a patient smile, ‘Listen man, I will NEVER go back to Rockville’. That shut me up in the nicest possible way (and they did play Rockville as an encore!).
The pleasure and fun their music gave me in my late teens and twenties was immeasurable. Yes, this album’s better than that one, the later stuff may not be as supremely, uniquely and ecstatically brilliant as the earlier stuff (how dare they!). I’m just grateful that I had them to enrich my life. Thanks REM.
Are they the ones
That did that B52s tune?
And it's 'Goodbye' from the Sydney Gay & Lesbian Choir...
...to a properly great band
10 to REMember
They were past their best it's true, but left loads of gems.
Driver 8
Orange crush
Superman
Fretless
Harbour Coat
Fall On Me
7 Chinese Brothers
Bang and Blame
Leave
Ebow The Letter
I would just like to add that one of the most surreal moments of my life was sitting in on the Peter Buck yoghurt rage air incident hearing some years back....one afternoon in Isleworth west London....during a spot 'between jobs'.
if I typed a list
of my favourite REM songs it would be at least a hundred songs long
(and would begin with Gardening at Night.)
From "Happyplace"
"Between #REM and #NewFacebook, make sure you hug the nearest white person you see. It's a tough day for them."
Here's A Spotify Playlist
Of R.E.M's best tracks according to all music guide,album by album not sure I agree with them since there are several I would have included and others I would have left out anyway here it is.
http://open.spotify.com/user/marbles22/playlist/7323IHXxUrZc2h42X7XW3N
Gone But Not Forgotten
I first heard Reckoning -I thought it was good but nothing special. I never listened to them again until I heard the superb Document - one of the best albums of the 80s. It's worth the price of admission for Odddfellows Local 151 alone! And then there's Exhuming McCarthy, etc. Then went back to their back catalogue and discovered the true joy of Reckoning. Their last great album was AFTP but there have been some superb individual tracks on all the subsequent albums. Even Around the Sun has Leaving New York and Electron Blue. I also had the pleasure of seeing them live - Michael Stipe is definitely one of the most charismatic front men; and they played the Undertones' Teenage Kicks!!
Listened to The National
'Lemon World' yesterday and was reminded of the same mixture of sadness, beauty and joy REM had when they were brand new. I did love them a great deal till 88/89. They do really cast a shadow over US music because even though they didn't arrive out of nowhere it sounded that way - what was being PLAYED therefore HEARD on US radio in 1984 (as I experienced it over a long summer in Georgia anyway) was REO Speedwagon.
Maybe sometimes it is necessary to be young and stroppy and floppy fringed to sound like that - though then again the National aren't spring chickens either are they? I'm going to have to think that one out properly...