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Read it in books - another confessional

art vanderlay's picture

OK, while there seems to be a support group mentality (all of which is clearly very helpful to some people with some real issues) from the always thoughful massive at the moment i thought I would share with you my dirty little secret.

It occured to me a while ago, lets say about 18 months, that I now spend considerably more time reading about music than I do actually listening to it!

It seems I am increasingly happy to discuss and debate and 'study' popular culture, largely music, but, conversly, am less interested in actualy partaking of the stuff myself.

I will happily spend hours reading reviews for albums I will never own (or even listen to), read discussions on forums, with genuine interest, about bands of whom I know nothing, read and re-read books and memoirs relating to music, the music industry or band biogs (theres not a book by an ex NME/Sounds/RM etc. journo that I do not own for example) and yet I will probably go to 2 gigs max this year, buy 2 CD's and download about another 2 cd's worth of single tracks (not being a freetard keeps a check on that). Even copies of CD's that friends have given me, things that I am sure I would like, rarely make it out of the sleeve.

Even in the car my listening is 90% podcasts (ironically, mostly about music) except when the kids are in it, when I give in to Lilly , Florence and the rest of the gang.

What music I do buy seems to be largely (but not exclusively) copies of stuff I have on vinyl and older stuff that I liked but never bought in the past. I also find that I am genre shifting again, listening to lots more soul again after 15 years in the indie wilderness and albums that I loved 6 or 7 years ago (Flaming Lips, The Strokes etc.), I can barely, scratch that, cant listen to now)

A further confession is my lack of any facility to play vinyl. If I had a turntable again (I know, I know, its on my shopping list after selling the last one after a period of copying what I thought was my essential vinyl onto CD and moving to a high end micro) then maybe I would at least be playing some old Jean Carne albums! Perhaps its a temporary and cyclical thing while searching for inspiration?

I am I should add a regular music radio listener (Robert Elms and Baker on BBCLondon and some 6 music shows) and use Spotify quite a bit so maybe it is sheer boredom with my collection.

Anyway, I'm Art and I'm here because I love reading....

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You don't say

Guilty as charged. But with me it's also talking about. it wasn't until recently that I caught myself on that I spend more time reading more books about the Beatles than listening to the remasters' series I bought.

But, when I think about, my Da used to be a big Joan Baez fan, and when he was my age he was still buying the LPs, but they never came out of their sleeves. My parents racks are full of Andy Williams, Jim Reeves - all those K-Tel compos from the 70s - they got played once on a rainy Sunday afternoon and then put away. A lot of them were purchased for the sole reason that they didn't want to leave Woolworth's empty-handed.

Funny, it was only when we were talking about the Flaming Lips the other day that I listened to the Soft Bulletin for the first time in a very long time, and I found it uplifting, it really cheered me up.

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HudD | 10 February 2010 - 11:02pm

Of course...

Talking is the other big thing, a night in the pub with similar minded friends is a real thrilling prospect for me, could (and do, on rare occasion I get a pass) talk music the whole evening, even to the point where I sometimes meet up with a guy whos something of a dylanologist and can happily discus his career for a few hours, which is somewhat amazing as I have never listened to a single Dylan album.....!

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art vanderlay | 10 February 2010 - 11:11pm

If it brings you pleasure, Art..

..then I wouldn't worry too much.

Music is what brings us all here. Via a magazine which is, predominantly, about music.

And which is not called The Note.

Which might suggest that you're amongst friends.

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Lenny Law | 10 February 2010 - 11:23pm

this is a bit pseudo, but

bit's also that thing that when men get to a certain age they become talkers and not doers. It's like those old vikings who told tales in the taverns, they couldn't be part of the fight anymore, so they'd regale the younger warriors with their tales of derring-do. I love Radiohead and some really loud goth stuff, but I couldn't hack a live gig. Not anymore. Glastonbury is right out. I'd have to stand near the portaloos and watch everything on the big screen.

The last concert I went to was in 2000, REM in Dublin, and I only went cuz my girlfriend was 7 years younger and she didn't want to travel on her own. "Sure we've got 2 DVDs and that live concert we taped off the radio!" said I.

She gave me one of them looks - like she was picturing me in slacks and slippers. I put my teeth in and got my coat...

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HudD | 10 February 2010 - 11:44pm

Poo

I just realised that REM wasn't the last gig - I went to see the Beta Band in 2001, but I was sloshed so it doesn't really count.

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HudD | 11 February 2010 - 10:40am

I feel with you Art

I to, from time to time, spend more time reading about music than listening to it, and consume an inordinate amount of reviews in print, full in the knowledge that i'll probably never even hear them never mind purchase. It keeps me off the streets

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Mint | 10 February 2010 - 11:53pm

My music taste

skirts very much around the edge of a lot of the articles, threads and opinions of others round here. Many music threads I just can't get involved in but that doesn't stop me reading virtually every word that's written hear and in the magazine. I listen to my Ipod on shuffle mode in the car to and from work, I buy cd's load them up and only very rarely listen to them all the way through. I almost never listen to anything at home. Right now I'm off to bed with the last half of Kronenberg and a good book.

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Dave Amitri | 10 February 2010 - 11:54pm

You've nailed it

I noticed this years ago. At that time I went the boozer at least once a week and fed the jukey with a pile of money and just chatted about music with mates. Subconsciously, I usually fed the bugger with tunes related to books I had recently read.
It was brought home ever more clearly late last year when I went to HMV at Crimbo to spend my father in law's £25 gift token prezzie (why do people not just give me gift tokens rather than clothes I'll never wear?) and I came out with nowt but books - on music.
Paolo Hewitt's Weller book was terribly interesting in a tiny wee score settling way. No?

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PaddyH | 11 February 2010 - 12:00am

Hewiit

Although he has a lot of detractors I like Paolo Hewitt, his books on mod and casual culture make great reads. I am saving this one for the big holiday this year and looking to forward to it.

BTW, youre dad right about the vouchers, my Mother in law gets it and gets me vouchers everytime but my own parents and siblings, god bless 'em, insist on dodgy aftershave and shirts that will be at the charity shop come March (now I sound really ungratefull)

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art vanderlay | 11 February 2010 - 12:06am

Everyone stop worrying, we're all the same

Art, I think you've voiced something which speaks of a common truth! With me it's the Beatles: I think if I totalled up all the hours I've spent reading about the Beatles and compared it to all the hours actually just listening... well, it wouldn't really bear comparison.

But I think there's nothing wrong with that. It's just pop music, isn't it? I remember distinctly the very moment I first heard Tomorrow Never Knows: it's that instant that's sent a shockwave through the rest of my life, and no amount of re-listening to the song is going to recapture that. But so what? I read about the band and their songs instead. Is it a displacement activity? I don't know.

A good song lasts two minutes and the after effects last a lifetime.

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Stephen Merrick | 11 February 2010 - 12:03am

Exactly

and that's what it's all about, the repercussions become as interesting as the original song. TNK is a great example, because the impact of that one song influenced so much and so many. Even though the anthology series was a bit one sided and cynical in a lot of ways, it gave me great pleasure to know that a generation of kids were hearing those songs for the first time, it reignited the Fab in me cuz I could nudge my nephew and say, "see! That's where your rave music started!"

You know, I never tire of wathcing those DVDs. I enjoyed that Arena programme on Eno and all those Sky Arts concerts/retros/In The Basement things. The BBC4 thing on German bands was one of the best things I've seen last year, but I haven't played my Kraftwerk or Neu albums for aeons.

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HudD | 11 February 2010 - 12:39am

Thanks HudD

"Repercussions" is the word I was looking for!

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Stephen Merrick | 11 February 2010 - 1:01am

No probs, SM

but art, see what you've done? You've made a lot of old men very melancholy, but extremely happy.

Brilliant idea for a blog, it's really made me think.

I'm off to my cot - I'm reading Doggett's 'There's A Riot going on!' another tome about rock in th 60's!

Nighty-night.

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HudD | 11 February 2010 - 1:10am

Thinking about it..

I don't do much reading about music. That which I do, I mostly disagree with.

Writers write because they're good at writing. Musicians make music because they're good at making music. Rarely do the sets intersect.

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Lenny Law | 11 February 2010 - 12:12am

I disagree, Lenny,

I love the Victor Bockris Lou Reed book and all of Clinton Heylin's offerings.
I'm always going on about Du Noyer here, I know. Although I know him, 'Wondrous Place' and 'In the City' are rightly held as great examples of accessible books on 'musicology'. I think the latter is the best book on British music of this century.
Also, Peter Guralnick is brilliant.
Mind, there is a bridge too far - I did't understand a lot of Greil Marcus when I last tried.

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PaddyH | 11 February 2010 - 12:58am

Sorry, but I disagree as well

But maybe that's a different mindset or something. If I think about it, my "reading about music" pastime is restricted to pop music on the whole. With something like Beethoven, I'm happy just to hear the music and don't really know much more about the man and his methods than a typical schoolchild would know!

** edit: Sorry, I think I misread your post. You were talking about musicians who write and vice versa. Just ignore me...

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Stephen Merrick | 11 February 2010 - 1:06am

Paul Du Noyer

I am also saving In The City for the holiday read so no spoilers as I cant wait to see what happens in the end.

And bridges to far?; Faking It by Hugh Barker (ex Animals That Swim BTW) and another guy. Good premise, that throwaway pop music is as valid as music that is apparently sincere and 'from the heart' but a long article would have been sufficient.

Anyone got Steve Lamacq's going deaf for a living? Out of print now but I really would like to get hold of a copy

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art vanderlay | 11 February 2010 - 9:19am

The crew of the good ship Word.

Have any of the scurvy lot ever written a book? Apart from that Maconie chap that is. Oh, and the blinking Collins feller. I mean yer actual Captain Mark Pugwash and Long John Hepworth. Anything to extend the monthly fix of Word japes and juxtapositions.

Could it be the older you are there is just too much music. It just accumulates on the beach like oil from a stricken oil tanker, threatening enthusiasm like a bedraggled seabird.

(You really must stop reading Pete Sinfield lyrics - Ed.)

I bloody miss the early '70's Melody Maker I do. They even put the best interviews out in an annual at Christmas. NME too. I have a few. These days they would come with an accompanying CD, a soundtrack to the times, or a flippin iTunes podcast thingy. Gone is the age of innocence and imagination.

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Beany | 11 February 2010 - 9:47am

They...

Would make great reading, I would stump up without question for either a ME or DH book (probably Fraser as well come to that) and they would be sure to get great reviews in a certian magazine.

The book I really want to see though is from Danny Baker. If Andrew Collins can write three memoirs (no disrespect, I liked them all) then he must have a couple in him at least. Failing that I could just settle down with a trancription of the recent podcast on which he appeared.

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art vanderlay | 11 February 2010 - 10:16am

Ahem..

I've written two unpublished novels (their still with the Belfast Art's Council) about a band from Belfast who become a Bay City Rollers-type-teeny sensation. It was as hard as hell, each book took me three years - and that's writing non-stop - cuz I can't type for toffee. They're probably a load of old keek, I didn't go to university - I got a C in my o-level English! But I really love writing (you can probably tell) and it's dead theraputic.

Beany's point about the MM annual thing is a good idea. I don't hang onto my mags and it would be nice if Word, Mojo etc put out a coffee-table type tome compiling the best articles.

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HudD | 11 February 2010 - 10:32am

Yes

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Secret-History-Entertainment-David-Hepworth/dp/0...

And Rob Fitzpatrick wrote one called "F*** off, no, just f*** off" I believe.

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Richie B | 11 February 2010 - 10:43am

Good Call Richie

I'll order that today (couple of heavily discounted offers I see!)

Reminds we that I want to get the Luke Haines book as well which had a great review in Word.

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art vanderlay | 11 February 2010 - 10:56am

How did I miss

the DH book and subsequent signing tour around the UK's Waterstones?

C'mon Mr Hepworth. Is it worth £10 of anybody's money?

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Beany | 11 February 2010 - 10:58am

shite

see - I wrote their instead of they're!! What a tit.

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HudD | 11 February 2010 - 10:35am

This....

is a podcast discussion, surely?

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D.Green | 11 February 2010 - 12:11pm

Love to read about music,

but music I know. It doesn't have to be music I like that much - as long as I am familiar with the act, have heard some of their stuff, and especially if it's a good story, eventful lives, extremes of ups and downs, that kind of thing. If I read about music I like I generally then want to go and play those tunes all over again. The best books make me go back and listen afresh. I might even be persuaded to have another listen where I was previously lukewarm.

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Sven Garlic | 11 February 2010 - 12:24pm

I read and enjoyed The Dirt

Without having ever listened to a note by Motley Crue, before or since.

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Spartacus Mills | 11 February 2010 - 12:31pm

The Dirt

Torres, thats funny, I have always wanted a copy of that book as it gets unwaiveringly good reviews. However my interal style police prevent me everytime, just in case the assistant in the shop thinks I like heavy metal. A case for online book buying i suppose.

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art vanderlay | 11 February 2010 - 1:09pm

I'm listening to more music than ever

although I've recently come out of a phase in which I, too, read books and listened to podcasts at the expense of music. So far this week, I've revisited Cockney Rebel's "Psychomodo" (gulp, I even remembered large chunks of the lyrics); "White Blood Cells" by The White Stripes; "Marquee Moon" by Television (possibly my all time favourite album); and "The Eternal" by Sonic Youth. Then I've had first listening to the new ones by Massive Attack, Hot Chip and Laura Veirs. And there's a new Peter Gabriel record next week! It's blooming wonderful, although the problem now is I haven't read much recently and haven't listened to the last Word podcast.

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Mark JF | 11 February 2010 - 1:04pm

I still listen to lots of music, just don't BUY lots

or even download if for free.

Like Art, I listen to music radio most the time, (R2 in my case), because I'm more interested in hearing songs than I am in Buying and Accumulating - think lots of men who call themselves serious music fans are really just shopaholics and collectors. Could just as well be stamps but happens to be Blue Note records (or whatever.)

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Remote Control | 11 February 2010 - 1:19pm
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