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Question time
Posted by Martin Simmonds on 22 October 2009 - 1:53pm.
Dare say we are in for record viewing figures tonight then?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/question_time/8315226.stm
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I have to watch
But I can guarantee a number of things on my part.
1. The neighbours had better put in earplugs, because I am going to be very vocal for this one.
2. I'm going to be frustrated by the fact that those people in the TV are not going to be able to hear me.
3. I'm going to be frustrated by how much Griffin gets away with (I hope this one isn't guaranteed).
4. I'm going to want to put my foot through the television.
5. I am going to cheer when I see the look of fear in his eye when the entire room goes against him.
6. I'm going to wonder how much the security for this programme is going to cost the general public.
The Mash nails it, as always
www.thedailymash.co.uk/politics/politics-headlines/everyone-hoping-griff...
I will be watching
but wishing I didn't have to
On the contrary - everyone should have the right...
...to prove themselves a fool.
(In reply to the original 'BNP should be banned' post.)
In all fairness
he's doing a remarkable job of making himself look a total twat right now.
It comes to something when you manage to mobilise an audience to cheer Jack Straw's almost every word, but that's what's happening.
Great comment by David Dimbelby
as everyone rounds on Griffin as he talks complete crap
'If you all attack on different points we'll never get anywhere'
Griffin really is looking an asrehole here
I disagree.
To repeat what I said on the Jan Moir thread, I feel boredom and/or ridicule (as befitting their Screaming Lord Sutch sized electoral support) would have the desired effect, whereas the near-hysteria Griffin's appearance has generated is exactly what he and his followers want.
Here's a neat summation 'Ten steps to wrong-foot Griffin' from David Aaronovitch:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/david_aaronovitch/ar...
*Edit - this was in response to the 'BNP should be banned' post.
On an associated point ...
... I read an interesting comment by someone who studies far-right groups. He was asked why they often don't seem to bother really trying to get mainstream acceptance: his answer was that people usually completely misunderstand the psychology and the aims of the far-right: they don't want the majority of the population to join them, they just want the majority of the fighters.
Chillingly accurate, I'd have said.
I fear you won't have to watch
as the tidal wave of splother that will wash over us afterwards will be enough to inform you of what happens.
Isn't censorship the hallmark of the fascist?
Just a thought.
I'm completely opposed to the BNP
but I'd rather know who they are and what they stand for. Rather than forcing them undercover again.
In the late 80s and early 90s in London a large number of Liberal councillors were in fact National Front members looking for any way of getting themselves into the system.
Nah, keep the enemy where I can see them.
I daresay we'll discuss it
at my weekly Combat 18 coffee morning. Eric's bringing a sponge cake he made.
Vanilla icing as usual I
Vanilla icing as usual I suppose?
It definitely won't be
Pick'n'mix anyway...
Ooh I hope not.
His fondant fancies at the last one were rubbish. I said so to Razor and Bill but they said to keep it quiet because he gets all offended if people pick on him. He keeps separating the eggs. I told him "Whites only is in the constitution, not the recipes" but will he listen?
I'm so excited
I'm throwing a Griffin party.
We plan to watch series of Family Guy before the main event, then afterwards everyone will be ferried home in Vauxhalls.
Pointless exercise in futility....
Griffin will get an easy ride on the back of tame questions pre selected around European constitution and postal strikes whilst the invited audience foam and screech themselves into a vigilante group that would shame the Paulsgrove estate whilst auditioning for a part on the Jeremy Kyle show.
Get Griffin interviewed on a one on one basis by John Humphrys or Andrew Marr who will give him more than enough rope to be hoist by his own petard. QT will do nothing but provide oxygen for these oiks.
I won't be watching.
BNP
Hate these fascists with all my heart but while we concentrate on this and the posties, a vaccination that will ruin the health of the most vulnerable members of the population has begun to be administered- distraction tactics.
As dangerous as MMR?
Because, if so, there will be absolutely nothing to worry about.
Sorry...
but what evidence do you base that statement on? I presume that you are talking about the cervical ancer jab currently being rolled out. Are you suggesting that the extensive clinical trials carried out on this are in some way being faked.
Sorry to go off on a tangent but this is a bit of a strange thing to bring up at this time.
I think he might be on about the Swine Flu
vaccination, but I can't for the life of me see why
Oh you should know
you of the Illuminati
I'll get my foil hat and join you for the secret masonic hopscotch :-)
Hang on here..
Is Malarkeymarkey talking about the HPV jab or the swine-flu jab?
Whichever way. He's talking shit. Utter shit. I hate to use shouty-down tactics and bad language on this civilised board but sometimes science has to speak out. Cite evidence, Marky. Proper, hard, double-blind, randomised, cohort-study supported, peer-reviewed top-of-the-evidencial-pyramid evidence. Show me what the Cochrane Collaboration has to say.
In the meantime, read some Dr Ben Goldacre and try to learn something.
http://www.badscience.net/2009/10/jabs-as-bad-as-the-cancer/
I will be in bed.
Catching up with the Sopranos.
Tony's a much nicer guy than Nick Griffin.
Funnier too.
My biggest fear
in an general election is that the apathy of the electorate allows the fanatics that follow the BNP a voice they do not deserve. In parts of the country where there is no racial integration just seperation and mistrust the BNP can rally enough support to gain just a couple of seats in parliament. We should all be aware that while he is obviously deluded the fact he has been allowed on Question Time means he has been recognised and IS therefore a threat however small that may be now. The aforementioned apathy is the biggest threat we have now.
It's on at the moment
He seems to be getting robustly fucked.
He never said any of those things and he's changed his mind.
Well that's alright then.
Seriously
is that really the BNP can do?
A fat sweaty man who claims the words that two minutes before came out of his own mouth was misquoted. An idiot who uses petty personal point scoring as an answer to reasoned debate
I usually find Bonnie Greer insufferable but I swore she was gonna rip his head off when he described the KKK as 'a non violent organisation'.
This QT appearance has been trailed for weeksand he still was underprepared for the most obvious of questions so he deservedly got a right shoeing.