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Queen V Radiohead V Muse
Posted by David Wright on 11 February 2011 - 2:27pm.
I remember when the first Muse album came out, a lot of people, including Mark Radcliffe said Muse sounded liked Radiohead, I have to agree. I respect Muse as a great live band, but their recorded work leaves me cold I’m afraid.
Queen have been a big influence on their later work too I reckon.
Radiohead come up top trumps on both the live and recorded front.
So it begs a triple decker: Queen V Muse V Radiohead. It’s Radiohead first for me, then Queen (not the rubbish later version with Paul Rodgers) then Muse.
I guess a lot of you may not be amused by my preferences and I'm sorry for two posts in one day.
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Queen v Radiohead v Muse
No surprises to see Radiohead up there. Muse are a bit showbiz for my liking, but Queen are guaranteed to blow your mind.
Radiohead
The Radiohead film, Meeting People Is Easy, is great viewing too, I think that's the name of it.It shows how dreary life can be on the road at times.
Radiohead
Absolutely superb band. They've created some truly unique tracks in their time, and others that are instant classics.
A list, because that's why the internet was created, of my favourite Radiohead songs:
1. Paranoid Android
2. 15 Step
3. Talk Show Host
4. Just
5. I Might Be Wrong
6. Where I End And You Begin
7. Harry Patch (In Memory Of)
8. Bishop's Robes
9. How I Made My Millions
10. Life In A Glasshouse
But there are so many good songs. Oh well.
Also respect to Muse (Origin Of Symmetry is flawless in my opinion) and Queen (Jazz and a Night at the Opera also brilliant).
But Radiohead gets my vote every time.
I know Radiohead are a Marmite band...
but I think they are one of the greatest groups ever to tread the boards. Their music moves me.
Radiohead for me too
Not a huge fan of any of them, but I do like some bits of Radiohead. In Rainbows is my favourite album.
And my top five:
Fake Plastic Trees
All I Need
Idioteque
Paranoid Android
Karma Police
No synthesisers.
Queen: Big music, big fun, great frontman.
Radiohead: Jangle, whine, whine whine, scream, whine. Whiny frontman.
Muse: Radiohead do Queen, but louder and faster. Frontman thinks he's in Rush.
Final tally:
Queen: +50, Radiohead: -2, Muse: no detectable score.
Queen win.
Radiohead Everytime
For the record, my top 15 is (in no particular order)
1. Killer Cars
2. The Bends
3. Let Down
4. No Surprises
5. Talk Show Host
6. 2 + 2 = 5
7. Nude
8. Fake Plastic Trees
9. Idioteque
10. Knives Out
11. Karma Police
12. How To Disappear Completely
13. You and Whose Army
14. Sail To The Moon
15. All I Need
Some parallels
The first band I remember being 'into' as a kid (Kid A?) were Queen around the time of 'Sheer Heart Attack','A Night at the Opera' and 'A Day at the Races'. I haven't kept up with them mainly because they seemed to get lumped in with the metal bands which is just lazy and wrong. And I just couldn't live with metal at all.
The only band I have really kept with throughout their career and my adult life are Radiohead. I'm not a big gig person but have made the effort to see them live three times. Some of the best nights of my life. They continue to be the best band in the entire world in my opinion.
The only band that both myself and my two teenage daughters like are Muse. They pinch my cds to put on their itunes library. They are a brilliant band, no doubt about that.
So in order of preference it has to be Radiohead, Muse, Queen.
My favourite five from Radiohead are:
How To Disappear Completely
Let Down
Fake Plastic Trees
True Love Waits
House Of Cards
The other bands are great entertainers
but Radiohead have this sort of HOWL in there somewhere. I love them for their uncertainty and fear, and I like the other bands less for their lack of it
just to chip in
Early Queen was the business when they were a proper rock band. All albums up to and including "Day at the Races". Brilliant stuff, crunchy guitar, clever quirky songs, operatic vocals. Their TOTP and MTV stuff lost me a bit though I did once own "The Works" album and used to play "Hammer To Fall" a lot.
Radiohead - loved "The Bends" and the sublime "OK Computer". Works of art. But I'm sorry, and its obviously my fault (well who else is to blame?), they lost me at Kid A.
Muse - got their first album but rarely play it. The guy sounds like he's trying too hard. They lack any sort of rock'n roll street cred like Oasis, they are not quite as subtle as Radiohead, they are not as clever as Steven Wilson and Porcupine Tree, they lack the heaviness and rhythm complexities of Rush, they lack the exquisite humour of Jethro Tull, they have no theatrics like Peter Gabriel. Yet they sell out Wembley so fair play to them. But then so does Take That. They are a sort of U2 imitiation band. Maybe that's unfair. Oh F**k it, I don't know. I'm stumped. Help me out here.
so.
Queen were great, but goodness they can sound dated now. I only really found them post-Freddie so feel in no place to comment.
Muse... I have been in the crowd at Wembley, thay fill the place with theatrics, special effects, acrobats and proper technical prowess. A little lacking in emotion but very impressive and great fun. However, I left their set at Glastonbury last year feeling mightily let down. They had played none of my favourite tracks, and the noodly bits between tracks were too self-indulgent. My affection was only fleeting.
My great romance is with Radiohead, as it has been since 'The Bends' came out. Intelligent, epic, surprising, infuriating, rather aloof but always very human. And with 'In Rainbows', more than a little sexy.
I do prefer their album tracks. Current favourites, in approximate order:
Street Spirit
Everything in its Right Place
15 Step
Idioteque
Videotape
There There
Packt like sardines...
Creep (oh, come on.)
and for those who think Radiohead have no sense of humour, I give you
A Wolf at the Door.
So - Radiohead > Muse = Queen.
[scuttles back to lurkers' corner.]
WATD
Get the eggs, get the flan in the face, flan in the face,
Dance you F**ker, don't you dare, don't you flan in the face...
Walking like giant cranes and with my X-ray eyes I'll strip you naked
Brilliant
Queen have the best song and frontman
Radiohead the best back catalogue and singer and Muse I'm afraid fall between the two stools so it's Radiohead,Queen and Muse for me
I am genuinely at a loss with Radiohead.
I loved 'Creep', thought Pablo Honey and the bends said pretty much everything they had to say, and couldn't bear anything after that. I can't stand the voice any more. I can't stand to look at Thom Yorke, grimacing and twisting at the microphone. I don't find the music engaging or interesting. I find the structure of the songs irritatingly predictable and dull. I can't be bothered to interpret the lyrics, even when I can make them out, as their delivery is so tedious. I've seen them play live in their pomp, at the top of their game in a huge crowd of the faithful, and watched my best mates stand there agape with awe, and felt nothing. I'd rather watch day time TV. Surely I am not alone in this?
Apart from that
do you like them?
Please don't anyone take this the wrong way
But what is it about Radiohead fans that compels them to make lists of their favourite Radiohead songs?
I'm pretty much with you, VV. I sort of respect Radiohead, I appreciate their willingness to experiment, particularly in the wake of OK Computer when OKCv2 could have launched them into the stratosphere, and I really like Creep (the rest of PH - not so much) and The Bends...
But the rest of it makes no connection with me at all. I don't actively dislike it, it just completely fails to move me.
Give me Queen any day.
Oh dear
We seem to be hitting a nerve here. Paul your assessment of Radiohead fans being list friendly mystifies me. I don't take it the wrong way, though. Other people/ fans do lists as well you know. Especially on this site. I see that as a good thing because it often leads me to exploring an act I may have previously overlooked or been oblivious to. I appreciate that Radiohead are a bit of a 'marmite' band, mind. I love 'marmite'.
Not at all Gerry
Just an observation based upon the posts in this thread. Muse fans - no lists. Queen fans - ditto. Radiohead fans - 'my top tens' all over the place.
Just thought it a bit odd.
Anyway. I've still ordered the thirty quid special edition of the new one. Just in case, like.
They
saw you coming.
I know.
But as soon as I see the words 'Deluxe' or 'Special' or 'Limited' Edition...
...I'm lost.
An awkward one this and 2
An awkward one this and 2 thirds of my response is based on partly on 'first hand encounters'
Bumped into Thom Y on a beach outside his house in Cornwall a few years back - bear in mind. I am much older than him - initially ( I assume he seemed to regard me as some old bloke) and he was quite 'off-ish' After a few minutes chat he seemed to know that,for my age, I know my stuff and he warmed to me a bit. My lasting image of him however is: Prat. Regardless of that I think Radiohead are so over rated. The Bends was okay but..........
Through my mum and his mum I vaguely know Roger Taylor regardless, truth be said, Queen have done some great singles but apart from 'Night at the Opera' I am not sure about their albums.........
Muse : they leave me cold.