Quality not quantity?

Let me get this straight at the start. The Word is the best magazine there is. I have a subscription. If there was a lifetime subscription, I'd buy it. I download the podcast and listen to every episode (even though I can't hear what everyone is saying). I recommend the magazine and podcast to my friends and colleagues. In summary, I love you, The Word.

The problem I have is with the monthly free CD. It's not that I'm not grateful. 'Free' is good. But I've just listened to this month's CD and come to the conclusion that most of it is very average. In fact it comes to something when Mick Hucknall jumps out of the speakers like some undiscovered diamond when compared to the other new, 'undiscovered' artists. And on the basis of their CD performances, Imelda May, Islands, Cathy Davey and July Skies et al should stay undiscovered. I know it doesn't cost the magazine anything, I know it sells magazines, but does it have to be thus?

Rant over. In the 70s the NME gave away a tape with an occasional issue. These were all top quality (I still have 'Pocket Jukebox' and 'Smile Jamaica') and did much to develop my catholic taste in music. How about a CD every few months perhaps with a particular theme (reggae, prog, folk, for example)? Or failing that, concentrate on the really good stuff every two or three months and avoid the average?

I'm not sure how you blagged yours,

but I parted with folding stuff to get my "Smile Jamaica" cassette.

As far as I can recall, I never found anything worth keeping sellotaped free to the cover of the NME except a very occasional couple of 7 inch vinyl gems.

The cassette series were pretty fine, but definitely not free. I also have "The Tape With No Name", which was a compilation of what has now become known as "Americana". Shame the NME has since become total pants.

Speaking of those freebie vinyl 7 inchers, I wonder where the feck I put them, they're around here somewhere....

Vulpes Vulpes | 10 June 2008 - 6:48pm

You're right

You're right Vulpes and my rose-tinted specs have let me down. You did have to pay something for them. Perhaps there's another option for The Word. Better quality but get the punters to pay?

Handsome.P.Wonderful | 12 June 2008 - 10:48am

Flexies

whooops

Twangothan | 10 June 2008 - 7:02pm

Not flexies

The singles / EP's Vulpes refers to were proper vinyl. I've still got mine stashed away. The NME did do some flexies, notably the one for Exile On Main Street, but that was early 70's. By the mid 80's it was vinyl you could treasure.

CarlP | 10 June 2008 - 7:48pm

'Tis true.

and I think I even got a proper 7 inch vinyl Bob Marley single off the cover of Mojo some years back.

Vulpes Vulpes | 12 June 2008 - 9:52am

Flexies

I had a few gems - Sounds gave away 4 tracks from "The Guitar Album" which changed my world - Rory doing "Bullfrog Blues", The Who doing "The Ox", Clapton doing "Let it rain" and BB King doing "Sweet 16". All fantastic. Any there was the "Exile on Main St" free flexi with a Jagger piano blues linking the tracks from the NME. Excellent. The NME ones weren't cover mounted though - you collected tokens - Pocket Jukebox etc all good.

The Tape With No Name - is it the one with Emmylou doing "Feelin single seeing double", "Family Tradition", "Victim of Life's Circumstances" etc? "You put the blue in me" etc? I have the artwork... (snickers quietly).

Twangothan | 10 June 2008 - 7:01pm
Vulpes Vulpes | 10 June 2008 - 7:37pm

Ahhhh

Bloody good selection. The youngsters could do worse than iTunes that lot.

Twangothan | 10 June 2008 - 7:44pm

Exile flexy

Exile on Main Street, strange street to walk down is my memory of the refrain but it's been in the loft for 20-odd years.

Stan Halen | 11 June 2008 - 1:43am

Dishelvement Blues

Anyone got the NME Faces flexi that contained that tune?
As I remember, the track contained a recorded fart and subsequent apology from Rod.
They don't make them, etc, etc.

Paul | 10 June 2008 - 7:08pm

It's in the box set

Your memory is correct it is truly one of the worst things I've ever heard.

btw...I disagree with the main point here I love the CDs, they've been getting better and better recently and I always pick up on one or two tracks and go and buy the album...

I'd already picked up July Skies - The Wheather Clock, and as Rob says in his review this month, it's bloody marvellous.

PaulHThompson | 10 June 2008 - 8:43pm

Farts

A mate once gave me a whole cassette of farting - purchased from the back of Private Eye - quite funny for a few minutes in the right company and in the right state of relaxation - needless to say it didn't get played much.

Twangothan | 11 June 2008 - 11:05am

Light My Fire

One would assume that the 'right company' was, (like Word covers) male only?
I do apologise for having brought this subject into the forum, but there we are. They used to sell some wondrous items on the back of Private Eye. Anyone got a Ted Heath's Ugly Mug?

Paul | 11 June 2008 - 12:13pm

Nope

....there were ladies there too. Equally relaxed shall we say. It got a bit surreal by the end of side 2 - weird flanging effects and stereo panning. Could have been the end of a Hawkwind album ...

Twangothan | 11 June 2008 - 2:15pm

CDs are great

Usually pretty representative of what's new and decent. Presumably there are limits on what can be obtained - I guess it's bound not to be the big names and will tend toward the less known and up and coming. I feel it's the other way round re MH's presence - like an unwanted guest at a party. 'The Herbalizer' is doing it for me so far.

Sven | 10 June 2008 - 8:56pm

CDs are great Pt. II

I think the Word CDs are usually excellent, each one typically having three or four tracks (by artists new to me) which make me want to explore further. They are currently my main route to hearing new music and I really appreciate them. Thanks guys.

Stephen G | 10 June 2008 - 9:05pm

Obviously...

...the question of whether a particular "Now Hear This" CD appeals to you depends on taste. However the important thing is that it's a collection of new material, either by new or established artists, and the record companies let us use the tracks because they want them to be heard. We pay the mechanical royalties but the recording is lent to us at no charge. Obviously if we went back and asked for back catalogue material they would be, understandably enough, looking for significant payment and therefore the whole equation would change.

David Hepworth | 10 June 2008 - 9:38pm

Not just taste

With me, mood and timeing have a lot to do with it. I remember for example listening to last months cd when I first got it and thinking that there was nothing there for me at all.
A fortnight later, I played it on the ipod in bed one night and thought it was a fantastic collection. Same deal with films, plays, gigs etc.

The audiance (be it just one person or a crowd ) has as much a part to play as the artist. If I'm not up for it at the time then no matter what I'm experiencing will be lost on me. I've missed out on so much good stuff as a result simply because the first time I experienced something, i just wasn't in the mood.

Martin

Martin Simmonds | 11 June 2008 - 10:49am

That is *so* true

You've got to be on the same wavelength as music. All too often nowadays when there's so much music people feel that they have to come to snap judgments about music, which is in nobody's interest. It becomes like train spotting. Yes. Heard that. Ticked it off.

David Hepworth | 11 June 2008 - 11:21am

Where will they be...

I agree with your point on the fact that most music needs repeated listening. I'm just not sure that in five years time anyone will remember Imelda May, Islands or even those current media favourites Fleet Foxes. Perhaps there's a subject for a future Word article. "Free CD artists - where are they now?"

Handsome.P.Wonderful | 12 June 2008 - 10:46am

CD or not CD........

There are times when I feel the same and think that the free CD is a waste of trees and money but as Dave says, it's a question of taste. A lot of the stuff may not appeal to me or my monkey but thats not to say that it wont apeal to someone else and make them feel the way I did when I first heard Calexico or Edgar Jones or Skyphone or Sharon Jones or...........

Browner | 10 June 2008 - 10:27pm

Not that I didn't buy the Willie Nile album off the back of i

Imelda May ad p45, John Hiatt ad p81, Hucknall ad p94, Congregation ad p71, five reviews on p106-107; can't hurt, can it?

skirky | 11 June 2008 - 10:14pm

Half Man Half Biscuit

The new issue only arrived this morning so I haven't had a chance to hear the cd yet but I did notice that when I loaded it into itunes the HMHB track came up as "Blue Badger Abuser".
Have Nigel and the boys come up with a new offence for the youth of today to be charged with?
As for previous cd's I have to add that due to hearing one song from Willie Nile, I bought Streets Of New York and it is now one of my all time favourite records.

mark4696 | 11 June 2008 - 10:28am

How about ...

..the odd themed CD, you know, Americana, Soul, Blues, Songs about drink, much like what Dylan does on his radio show.

On The Fence | 11 June 2008 - 10:31am

I second that emotion

...the CDs as they stand are great, but have a limited lifespan once you've picked out the tracks that appeal - and rightly so, as they are the audio adjunct to a magazine.

It's just that the occasional themed CD would be rather nice, and given the skill and taste of the compilers, I'm sure they'd stand up as great albums to add to the permanent collection. I still listen to Uncut's "Sounds Of The New West" collection from several years ago.

I can appreciate Mr H's comment on the economics of the enterprise though, though did the newspapers really pay for all the terrible back-catalogue stuff they hoovered onto free CDs when it was the rage?

Ewan Milne | 13 June 2008 - 1:50pm

Talking of the economics of "free" CDs

Did anyone else bristle slightly at Mark Elen's comment on the podcast a few weeks ago that the cover CD is not actually free, but that we, the readers, understand that we are paying a premium to have the disc?

Ewan Milne | 13 June 2008 - 1:51pm

The papers certainly did pay, through the nose.

Free CDs were among very few windfalls for the music industry in recent years. They paid publishing and mechanical royalties in numbers that dwarf what we on THE WORD pay, their circulations being so much bigger.

Andrew Harrison | 13 June 2008 - 5:46pm

I like the CD's very much

Its also good to be able to listen to some of the artists being reviewed so don't have a problem with that. I guess the number of ads that correlate with the artists is to be expected and lets us not forget a magazone is a commercial enterprise that needs to survive and if it gets me an interesting cd and knocks a quid off the purchase price then its a good thing.

Leedsboy | 11 June 2008 - 10:56am

Let me make one thing clear

We choose music for the CD on the basis of whether we like it or think it's interesting.

David Hepworth | 11 June 2008 - 11:23am

Understood

and in no way wanted to suggest otherwise. I was trying to say that if a label is providing a track to the cd to get it heard, it would make sense for them to place an advert to reinforce the marketing. And ads help keep the price down for us readers so all in all a good thing.

I suppose I'm saying that marketing is a good thing - its targeted communication when its right and spam when its not.

Leedsboy | 11 June 2008 - 2:11pm

Let me make one thing clear...

"...even if you *do* say 'Jehovah'..."

skirky | 12 June 2008 - 8:53pm

I like 'em

Off hand I can't think of any big acts I'd want to see on the CD - I either like them and have their latest, or know perfectly well what they're like and don't want to hear them. The more obscure stuff is more interesting to me - either because I might find things I really like (and there have been loads of them) or alternatively people I've heard of and not actually heard where I don't like 'em in the event, but I still appreciate having heard them. And sometimes they grow on you....

As I've posted before, there's also the Word curse where the only decent track is on the Word CD, you buy the full jobbie and the rest is disposable. St. Etienne springs immediately to mind - standout track on Word, rest totally forgettable.

Twangothan | 11 June 2008 - 11:10am

Cathy Davey

I'd like to put in a word of support for Cathy Davey: marvellous! I've been following her since her debut album Something Ilk came out a couple of years ago, and the new one is better still. Although I'm a laughing stock among some of my friends for my predeliction for obscure female singer-songwriters, I can live with that; there are some terrific ones about, and the Word CDs do a pretty good job of bringing some of them to wider attention.

Any chance of getting a Christine Collister song at some point in the future?

Azeem | 11 June 2008 - 1:01pm

oooh ooooh sir...

cross thread alert cross thread alert

Her song Reuben has a bo-diddley beat on it.

I have the songs from silversleeve album and like it a lot. It's a bit weedy, i suppose, in places and she kinda strikes me as a female Ian Broudie in some senses...

ivan | 11 June 2008 - 1:13pm

I like the way

that thought has actually gone into the ordering of the tracklisting, to make it feel like a kind of mixtape and actually make sense, as opposed to just throwing a load of random songs together. Whose job is it? Mr Hepworth's?

Adam Burling | 11 June 2008 - 6:56pm

With Mr Hepworth's apparent dislike in reading out forum

members monikers on the podcast, I wonder if Mr Wonderful will get a mention....I doubt it!

David | 11 June 2008 - 7:04pm

Thank You For The Music

It's true you have to stick at it with the Word CDs; but the best things in life come to those who wait.
Alongside 6Music, Radcliffe and Maconie, there're my route to discovering new (and sometimes old sounds). Only up to track five on this month's CD, but it looks like it's going to be a beauty for summer plays in the car. Fleet Foxes's "White Winter Hymnal" and Shetland lassie Jenna Reid may sound like cold miserable artists, but there's a comforting warmth going on here;both lovely golden moments.
You know, I've never heard of The Herbaliser, but "Amores Bongo" will make a great pre gig warm up track next month for a gig in Scarborough town.
Thank you WORD, for the music and the variety on these CDS and I'll give you a B+ for this months efforts.

David Wright | 11 June 2008 - 8:06pm

I have failed to consolidate

I've been buying Word for a long time so I have a lot of Word CDs. About 18 months ago I ripped them all onto my laptop with a view to doing a 'best of' and getting shut of the CDs, which take up a lot of rack space in my CD collection. But in the end, I kept them all. I even bought a couple more in my local charity shop! [Aside: ethics of selling originally free stuff in a charity shop? Discuss.]

The fact is that I do think some it's average, and I also think some of it's ace. But without the Word CDs my music collection would've stagnated. I easily get bored of most of the several hundred CDs I already have, and occasionally I put a Word CD on, log on to Amazon and shop 'til I drop. Particularly rewarding purchases have been Jim White, Sharon Jones and Slow Club (they're from Sheffield, by the way!). Oh and Ukelele Orchestra.

While I've got you, could I make a plug for Thomas Truax? I haven't seen him crop up on a Word CD and I promise you he is most excellent. And no, I get no financial or sexual reward for making that plug.

Au revoir.

AndrewtheWood | 11 June 2008 - 8:32pm

Word Cd's...

... are great for discovering new music and are an integral part of The WORD experience.

I normally play each new one in my car for a few days and mark the tracks that appeal to me; then rip those onto my Creative Vision:M.

Tops!

Nicodemus | 11 June 2008 - 10:16pm

I don't listen to the cover CD for 6 months or so.

Oddly though, they work really well for me, in a strange roundabout way. I don't like listening to a mixture of tracks by lots of different artists one after the other, I like to hear a whole album's worth. I like an extended listening experience. It's just how I've learned to listen.

I buy music after hearing it or reading about it; this month I've invested in a selection of John Lee Hooker titles after reading Steve Miller's comments about the richness in simplicity that John Lee achieved. I've also just bought the "Sun Giant" EP by Fleet Foxes as a way in to their stuff - I didn't listen to the track on the cover mount, I read the review and was intrigued. I'm very glad I did buy it, too, and I now have the full album on order from Amazon as well.

The cover CD will come into its own about 6 months from now. The artists that were on there because they were of the moment will have settled into the landscape. They may have done some shows which will have been reviewed, more material may have appeared, and more will have been written about them in all sorts of places. The tracks that were the only gems from their parent albums will have been revealed as such by a general indifference or a surfeit of scathing reviews. Most importantly, the tracks that are the tips of iceberg sized lumps of goodness will still be there, lurking.

When I listen to a cover CD from months back, which I will eventually do, probably in the car, those little wonders will leap out of the loudspeakers at me; either I'll think, "Ah, yes, I'm glad I bought that album." or "Wow. Who. Is. That?" Great fun, and all the better for having waited a while.

Vulpes Vulpes | 12 June 2008 - 10:24am

Recycling

By the way, how do people recycle their free CDs? Are they plastic or metal? Please don't say you hang them in the garden to scare the birds.

Handsome.P.Wonderful | 12 June 2008 - 11:13am

Sheves!

What a dreadful thought! Are you suggesting that you throw music away?! Surely that's what Shelves are for - or if space is a premium throw away the case and keep the CDs in multiCD cases.

JohnW | 14 June 2008 - 8:44am

I tend to find the Word CDs

I tend to find the Word CDs vary in quality ( or rather, in what appeals to me ) from month to month - sometimes months will go by with very little of interest on, then there'll be one loaded with interesting stuff. I've stumbled across some brilliant stuff via the discs on the cover, long may they continue!

Andrew F | 12 June 2008 - 7:18pm

Dancing about architecture

Surely if you are buying a music magazine it's a good idea to have some music arrive with the same package?

samfid | 12 June 2008 - 11:18pm

I've Got Math AND Science on My Side.

Not because I have OCD, but because it once took me over six months to find “Farmer in the City” by Scott Walker on a covermount cd among my 3000+ albums, I’ve now got a database of track listings. So. Computer says: 25 Word discs, 380 tracks. Of those, 158 (42%) are tracks that I like enough that I ripped them to mp3 music library and listen to them semiregularly. Of those, 59 (15%) are tracks I absolutely love and are indispensable to me. Also, I purchased 29 albums as a direct result of tracks I first heard on Word cd’s.

By contrast, I rarely find more than one or two tracks worth listening to on a Mojo or Uncut disc, unless it’s a theme disc in a genre I like. Nowhere near the ‘hit rate’ of Word, by about a factor of 10.

Sure, there have been (rare) months where there was nothing on the Word cd that did a thing for me. But then there are those months that the discs are almost universally great, beginning to end.

Regardless, for me, it’s such a breath of fresh air to find a group of people (Word scribes as well as the posters on this site) whose aesthetics I share for the most part, and whose conversations, recommendations and debates help me find new opportunities to spend myself into the poorhouse.

scooter | 13 June 2008 - 6:54am

I'd happily pay the cover

I'd happily pay the cover price for the mag - I have to go down to London a lot and it's definitely the best for filling the journey back to Sheffield (extensive research reveals that Uncut lasts until Kettering, Mojo lasts until Leicester and the Word lasts for the whole journey, including the bus home from the station AND I get to save the feature article just before the review section for reading on the bog at the weekend.)

Er back on track, so the CD's something of a bonus - really good for the odd track (in every sense). I'd never have heard Pluto by Clare and the Reasons in a million years if it hadn't been on the CD.

I've got a couple of fantastic suggestions of recent stuff for a future CD that I'm desperate to make, but that way lies Spam City so I'll spare you.

spt | 13 June 2008 - 5:32pm