Q Magazine new nadir

There is a feature in the new magazine, and I'm not making this up, called Women In Music.

The buyer's guide this month - 'How to buy..............African'.

Can anyone think of a more patronising article? Is it worse than The New Asian/ Lesbian Kool in the otherwise faultless Select?

patronising...

it means talking down to people, you know....

ivan | 1 April 2008 - 11:55am

So don't you

worry your pretty little head about it

Chimney Singing Crow | 1 April 2008 - 12:11pm

Arf!

Arf!

ivan | 1 April 2008 - 12:33pm

Actually I really enjoyed

Actually I really enjoyed the Women In Music section - no great surprise to see that Natasha Khan is into Kate Bush, mind!

Q has descended into the magazine that likes lazy lists, so this is better than their usual output which I imagine is knocked up in a pub 5 minutes before deadline. "Which Top 50 shall we do this month, lads?" and the only reason I still get it is because I'm too lazy to cancel the direct debit.

itf | 1 April 2008 - 12:25pm

I thought it was typical Q

Doesn't tell you anything you didn't know before, blows smoke up the arse of people who aren't very good but have been around for a long enough period of time (no Stevie Nicks pun intended). I'm surprised there wasn't a piece on Marianne and Mars Bars.

If Q was a person it would be Dermot O' Leary.

Chimney Singing Crow | 1 April 2008 - 12:32pm

African

Not sure what's wrong with a guide to African music - I presume that's what it is. World would be too broad a term - well that's all the music in the world, so obviously! What else would you call it? Is it because they lumped all those countries together? But then they wouldn't be likely to cover each African country separately. Am I missing something? I would be quite interested in such a guide in fact.

Sven | 1 April 2008 - 12:31pm

Technically...

Q cannot reach a new nadir, as a nadir is by definition the lowest point in the fortunes of a person or organisation. I would suggest that there are fresh depths to be plumbed before said nadir is arrived at.

Patrick Crowther | 1 April 2008 - 12:36pm

Really?

Can't you reach a new nadir if the first one was as low as you thought someone could sink (ie the perceived nadir) but then they surprise you by making you realise that they could in fact go lower, thus reaching a new nadir and invalidating the old one?

I have got stuff to do, honest.

Lucas Hare | 1 April 2008 - 1:44pm

Call me pedantic...

but I think one has to step back and assess how far something has sunk. If new depths are plumbed, then the former state or situation is no longer a nadir. Therefore the current one cannot be described as a 'new nadir' since the old one is no longer a nadir.

I hope you realise that this is not written in all seriousness!

Patrick Crowther | 1 April 2008 - 3:19pm

How about this?

"A new nadir which replaces the old one"? Rolls off the tongue, dunnit?

Lucas Hare | 1 April 2008 - 5:31pm

I think

I may have made an error in posting this, especially with my erroneous use of the word 'nadir'.

Perhaps 'Q plumbs depths previously thought unplumbable' would be better.

Chimney Singing Crow | 1 April 2008 - 12:42pm

Heh heh heh...

it's fun taking the piss out of Q magazine, isn't it?!

Patrick Crowther | 1 April 2008 - 12:44pm

Heh heh heh...

it's fun taking the piss out of Q magazine, isn't it?!

Patrick Crowther | 1 April 2008 - 12:44pm

Twice as funny

Twice as funny!

Springer | 1 April 2008 - 12:45pm

I like reading it

in the same way that I like reading my Mum and Dad's Daily Mail when I'm down there. In the words of Bill Hicks, it's like when you can't help touching your tooth when you've got toothache. Ow.
Ow.
Ow.
Ow.
Ow.

Chimney Singing Crow | 1 April 2008 - 12:54pm

Q-induced Ow list

1. Ow
2. Ow
3. Ow
4. Ow

Patrick Crowther | 1 April 2008 - 12:57pm

'Q' - it's only bad because ...

... it used to be good.

StevenC | 1 April 2008 - 2:11pm

Hmmm

Can't see that working as a strapline...

Azeem | 1 April 2008 - 2:46pm

This isn't made up

is it? I am becoming suspicious of everything I read today.

Sven | 1 April 2008 - 6:33pm

Who The Hell Does Q Think It Is?

I stopped buying it when they started printing on that flimsy paper.

David Wright | 1 April 2008 - 8:02pm

I cancelled my subscription

when they seemed to have half the articles sponsored by phone companies. It needs to age gracefully but can't. It's a comb over of a mag.

Leedsboy | 1 April 2008 - 10:07pm

Excellent!

That's a perfect description. When they asked you why you were leaving I hope you said you cancelled your subscription because it wouldn't shave its head!

StevenC | 1 April 2008 - 10:40pm

Q has aged in reverse...

It started life appealing to a mature individual with diverse interests (ring any bells, The Word?!) and regressed into a magazine for people who can't or don't like to read.

Patrick Crowther | 2 April 2008 - 5:21am

My life story, in subsciptions:

Melody Maker, NME, Folk Roots, Q, Rock'n'reel (original cheap quality paper version), Mojo, Uncut, Word. This does not count occasional airport excursions into Rolling Stone and Hot Press.
I now only subscribe to one. And to Private Eye.
O, and what has happened to that HMV folk/blue/jazz freebie?

Retropath2 | 2 April 2008 - 8:25am

The HMV freebie...

is still available. I picked one up in my local branch just the other day.

Patrick Crowther | 2 April 2008 - 9:09am

Thank you

.

Retropath2 | 2 April 2008 - 9:13am

I used to read...

all the same magazines as you (with the exception of Rock n' reel) but now only regularly buy The Word. Is it just a coincidence that when Messers Ellen and Hepworth left Q and Mojo they went rapidly downhill? I don't think so.

Patrick Crowther | 2 April 2008 - 9:14am

But did either of us.....

.....ever buy Smash Hits?. I'm afraid I thought myself too cool by half, it being before my irony bypass blocked.

Retropath2 | 2 April 2008 - 9:35am

Never bought it...

but I had a friend Mike who did so I used to read his. Late 70s... I suppose in many ways Smash Hits was my introduction to music. It was good in those days, as I remember...

Patrick Crowther | 2 April 2008 - 9:43am

I loved Smash Hits

I went from Smash Hits to Q and now to Word. Bought too many copies of Car as well. Had brief affairs with Record Mirror in the early 80's.

Smash Hits was a great education - not too serious but with a good ear. Q was perfect to move onto for me. Word has moved the original Q premise on. Must subscribe (but am waiting for a CD I'll enjoy more than Nick Cave...)

Leedsboy | 2 April 2008 - 4:15pm

I see it's true now

Just checked on Q site. Yesterday still had old cover showing.

I still get Uncut and Mojo from time to time but rarely get Q. There's nothing much that's good to read anymore that focuses mostly on new stuff - Word comes closest to that for me.

Sven | 2 April 2008 - 12:48pm

Q

Poor Q.
Just had a look at the site for the first time in ages. It does look a bit cliched. However, they do give the Felice Brothers a pretty good plug so I guess they must be doing something right.

Crowdedmouse | 2 April 2008 - 6:20pm

Yeah..

...reading Word magazine I suspect.

Leedsboy | 2 April 2008 - 11:44pm