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Well, that was an interesting recent thread on stealing music, wasn’t it?

It’d be fair to say that we have differing opinions about how irresponsible it might be to download music without paying. Some of us would never do such a thing, some of us don’t recognise a connection between buying a product and an artist receiving payment and maybe a fair proportion of us have developed an economic model of both buying music and also stealing it for as long as they can remember using whatever technology is at hand.
I’m not here to debate the points, I’d just like to get an idea of how much of the music we have in our possession was legally obtained, i.e. when you obtained it did you do it legally.

So it’s like a stocktake, - everything you have, the cd you just bought, the one you just borrowed, the tunes on your hard drive, the vinyl you’ve gathered, the gifts you’ve received, the songs you taped, the box of cassettes/mini discs/reel to reels in your parents’ attic.

It doesn’t matter if you don’t have the machine on which to play it - if you still possess the media, it must be of value to you.

Assess your collection and calculate how much was legally obtained and how much wasn’t and choose the option below that most reflects your collection and (anonymously!) click it.

And for the sake of argument can we leave aside/ not count bootlegs/pre 1950s out of copyright/ still deleted material/the cd you made for the car/anything else uncertain.

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What about us 100%ers?

This is an outrage! I demand a voice!

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Cobweb Steve | 1 March 2011 - 5:10pm

Seconded!

I've paid for every piece of music I own, be it download or CD. I am slightly offended by the assumption that because I like music I'll steal (as I see it, that's my POV, no judgment cast on anyone else)it.

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Grant | 1 March 2011 - 5:15pm

Thirded!

Absolutely in agreement, gentlemen, I resent the assumption being made here. (Others of course may have a different reaction, as is their right)

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Gavin Adam | 1 March 2011 - 5:19pm

Hope that you...

offended posters don't own any boots then, and if you do you personally visited the artists to make sure they got paid themselves for the illegaly recorded material?

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Doug B | 1 March 2011 - 5:59pm

No boots...

...other than those made for walking of course. (I haven't got that have I? Quickly checks, only to find it on a 60's compilation; hangs head in shame and edges out of the room.)

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Gavin Adam | 1 March 2011 - 6:06pm

No boots either

Don't see the point in them.

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Grant | 1 March 2011 - 10:17pm

Righteous Indignation

TMFTL

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el toro calvo grande | 1 March 2011 - 6:14pm

And what about

All those CDs you picked up on Friday night, Mr H? ;-)

That'll be £10, please.

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Paul Waring | 1 March 2011 - 5:54pm

Hang on Guvnor,

The new iTunes only permits 7 copies of any playlist for personal use. As both Mart and myself testified, playlists had to be altered.

I have abided by the terms and conditions of the most powerful force in music at the moment. I am a capitalist lap-dog. I am ashamed.

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Grant | 1 March 2011 - 10:24pm

Your new iTunes is different to my new iTunes (10.1.2.17)

I ran off 21 copies, completely unmolested or admonished by the Jobs that be.

I laugh in the face of the polo-necked one.

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Paul Waring | 2 March 2011 - 12:08am

So you've never

So you've never:

- been given a mix-tape / mix-CD by a mate?
- had a copy of an album done for by a mate to see if you like it and just kept the copy because it was OK but not that great?
- downloaded the audio of a track you like on YouTube?

If not, kudos to you. I consider myself pretty above board in this field and I've done all of those things...

{whoops - that was supposed to be in reply to Cobweb Steve et al.}

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Red Umpire | 2 March 2011 - 10:31am

Erm...

(mumbling)...maybe a mixtape...(looks down, pushes rug around with foot)...or two.

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Cobweb Steve | 1 March 2011 - 5:59pm

Around

99%

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wayfarer | 1 March 2011 - 6:40pm

Apart

from mix-tapes back when cassettes were still around I have never taken music illegally.

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McLongWhiteCloud | 1 March 2011 - 9:01pm

98.5%

Tbe only stuff I've got that I haven't paid for is stuff that I've been given and would never have bought anyway.
I've occasionally been given copies of albums by friends and, every time I've liked the stuff enough to play it more than once or twice, I've then bought a 'legitimate' copy.

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DC Eisenhower | 2 March 2011 - 12:36am

I'm in a better position than most...

... to be "scientific" about this, as (in order to ensure I listen to everything I get) I'm sad enough to log all my purchases in writing, and tick them off as I listen to them. My current list-in-progress has 94 albums on it (about 6 months'-worth), of which:

18 are "unpaid for" - I think I'm being hard on myself here, as this includes mix CDs from friends, boots, and albums I do own on vinyl/tape but are here taken from friends' CDs; anyway, strictly, almost 20% of my current listening is illegal.

53 are 2nd-hand - wow, wouldn't have believed that until I counted it up. It's skewed upwards slightly by a recent binge at one shop, but there you go.

10 are magazine CDs - Word & Mojo covermounts.

That leaves just 13 brand-new albums, which is interesting, but worrying for the music industry, as I consider myself a huge music fan (buying, or obtaining, 200 albums a year), yet less than 20% of my purchases actually (directly) contribute to the industry.

As I say, that's just a current snapshot - my whole collection is probably 96+% owned & legal - but an interesting exercise.

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Metal Mickey | 2 March 2011 - 10:03am
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