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Prince - Sign Of The Times - Does it get better than his album?

Uncle Wheaty's picture

No!

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Over-rated

Him, and the album.

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Johan | 10 August 2009 - 12:49am

Wrongity

wrong.

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Black Type | 10 August 2009 - 1:10am

Agree. Wrongity Wrongity Wrong

In Spades.

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Uncle Wheaty | 10 August 2009 - 1:13am

Great

one of THE albums

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Pat Carty | 10 August 2009 - 1:01am

Prince has always left me cold

I know why people like him but he does nothing for me.

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Chris G | 10 August 2009 - 1:03am

Yes

it was a peak a great album but it has all been downhill since with the odd track as an exception

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MrRadio | 10 August 2009 - 11:34am

You don't understand

His name is Prince. And he is Funky.

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QTron | 10 August 2009 - 11:38am

Hasn't aged well

It doesn't hold its own with Exile and London Calling as great double albums. It's very good but not great.

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Rab100 | 10 August 2009 - 11:44am

Even as a fan

I listen to this album and I notice two things: The fact that its production is pretty dire (it's so quiet!), and secondly that there are a LOT of tracks I skip. On disk 1 I tend to press the stop button when "Hot Thing" comes on, and I stop disk 2 as soon as "I Could Never Take The Place of Your Man". It's a good album, but incredibly overrated. For me, "Parade" is much, much better.

Oh, and the SOTT film? It's not really live - it's all lip-synched, the whole thing.

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Nasalhair | 10 August 2009 - 12:23pm

Remastering

Look for my comments near the end of this thread for my take on the loudness and sound quality of CDs.

http://www.wordmagazine.co.uk/content/good-headphoneshearing-music-prope...

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LOUDspeaker | 10 August 2009 - 3:38pm

Nasal, is it not just in

Nasal, is it not just in need of a good remastering? The sound quality on the double CD is pretty poor, very quiet-sounding as you point out, but still a great album. Hot Thing's one of my favourite tracks on it.

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Paul Cunningham | 10 August 2009 - 1:31pm

Remastering

Yes, in the fan community we often talk of how much we'd like to hear his 1978-1990 material remastered as most of it sounds incredibly weak these days, with the possible exceptions of "Purple Rain" and "Parade". The trouble is, there's almost no chance he'll remaster them or allow someone else to do them because he'd prefer to take it as an opportunity to re-record them from scratch, as he did with the pretty poor "1999 - The New Master". He'd also remove all of the bad language, which would just ruin some of his songs.

"Hot Thing" has never really grabbed me, and on the second side I've always hated "Adore", which I think is just dreadful. For me it's a decent double album, but it could have been an astonishing single album, with maybe a couple of other songs saved for B-sides.

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Nasalhair | 10 August 2009 - 2:02pm

If I was your Girlfirend

is a libidinous, salacious, lubricios gem...

Anyway, where was I..oh yes, exceptionally talented but too egotistical to allow a judicious collaborative producer to hone and edit his ouput and too lacking in self-knowledge to realise less is more.

Perhaps, Parade is closest - but the fact is that he has not released one album as an entity that one could consider truly indispensable.

And that - given the man's talent - is a terrible waste

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Sheev | 10 August 2009 - 3:03pm

I went through a long Prince jag...

and for me Lovesexy is the one...
These days it's the big singles compilation that works... An incredible singles artist, one of the best!

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Adman | 10 August 2009 - 2:54pm

I got Lovesexy...

... through the post from Britannia Music Club. I was eight. Didn't really get it.

Had a bit of a Spodify session yesterday at my housemate's mother's gaff (her birthday, he was there too, nothing to see here etc) and someone requested the little fella. I scrolled through and elected on 'Do Me, Baby', purely because of its hilarious title.

Didn't really get it.

Where do I start? I know he's a cracking guitarist and wrote Nothing Compares 2 U and all that, but all I get from him is something akin to a horny jack russell humping the world's collective leg. Even Purple Rain leaves me cold. There must be a way in. Damn Britannia. Should've sent me Cast.

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Alex Gold | 10 August 2009 - 3:39pm

Try The Hits/The B-Sides

as an introduction. Much, much more to him than the somewhat lazy 'horny' stereotype (yes, I know he's encouraged a lot of it); this compilation kind of seperates the 'spiritual' and 'sexual' aspects of his work, albeit very loosely. The B-Sides display further evidence of his sheer diversity/self-indulgence (with Prince, you have to take the whole caboodle, he is what he is).

If you want to take it further, you wouldn't go wrong with Dirty Mind (punk-funk), 1999 (electro-pop/disco), Around The World...(psychedelic pop), Parade (quirky amalgam of all the above) and of his later works, The Gold Experience and Emancipation, which both contain a hugely diverse range of styles.

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Black Type | 10 August 2009 - 5:18pm

Sign of the Times

is a great album and probably has the highest number of my favourite songs of his in one place including 'I could never take the place of your man' which is my favourite track on the album - one mans poison etc!
Strangely I do not like the title track on the album but when he played it live on the last tour it sounded edgy.The thing is I think on all levels he is better than Michael Jackson ever was - better dancer, better performer, better singer, certainly a better musician. Yes he has had some misses and some of his output has been pretty dire but overall he has a wonderful back catalogue.

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Steve Turner | 10 August 2009 - 5:46pm

thanks chaps...

... I'll give your suggestions a go. I've just had the exact same discussion with one of the chaps in the office (a Prince fan, natch) and he's making me a playlist as well. I feel spoiled!

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Alex Gold | 10 August 2009 - 5:55pm

sign of the titch

i can give or take prince-genius? dont make me laugh

and why do women find him sexy-he's tiny what you going to do with him sit him on your knee?

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junkiecosmonaut | 10 August 2009 - 7:56pm

Thanks for your searing insight there

He's small - who knew?

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Black Type | 10 August 2009 - 8:13pm

He's seen more sweet lady-action

than you've had hot baths.
Everyone knows that small men do it best...,

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Adman | 11 August 2009 - 12:00am

Bargepole concurs

that this is a classic case of a double album, which with judicious pruning could have been a killer single album.
sadly though, it's basically been a steady downward trend since, with only the occasional return to the form of old.
An artist whose best years are well behind him, best now enjoyed via one of the various compilations out there.

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bargepole | 10 August 2009 - 8:10pm
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