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Pop songs and football chants

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I've always been interested in how football chants develop and mutate. Usually, they seem to be based on popular songs of the day - for example, 'Yellow Submarine', 'Guantanamera' etc. More up to date examples include the use of 'Love Will Tear Us Apart' by Man Utd fans. Any more obscure examples out there?

The one that's long mystified me is the clapping rhythm that began ( I think ) in the 60s. It goes :

Clap Clap / Clap Clap Clap/ Clap Clap Clap Clap / Arse-Nal ( or whoever )

I've long maintained to friends and anyone else who'll listen that this derives from an obscure early 60s surf instrumental by The Routers titled 'Let's Go'. This uses the above rhythm but ( obviously ) with the phrase 'Let's Go' at the end. However, I struggle to explain how such an obscure single, which never bothered the charts as far as I know, could have spread so widely across UK football terraces. I first heard the chant when watching Millwall at the Old Den in the 60s ( I was young and foolish in those days ) but I doubt whether it originated there, Millwall fans not being best known for their innovative tendencies ( except where violence was concerned ).

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I'm with you...

...that's where I've always thought it came from. Although it wasn't a hit, I bought it, and other people must have done too, and it just went viral, although we had to wait another 40 years before we knew what that meant.

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mikethep | 11 March 2011 - 8:36pm

Annie's Song

Why do Sheffield United fans sing John Denver's 'Annie's Song'?

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PT | 11 March 2011 - 9:17pm

It's the words

rather than the tune - see previous thread, towards the end.

http://www.wordmagazine.co.uk/node/23494

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bargepole | 12 March 2011 - 12:47pm

I might be wrong..

But was the song used as the theme to a footy highlights show along with a bit of clapping which meant it got picked up by the faithful?

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Lenny Law | 11 March 2011 - 11:22pm

Is it not the intro

to Back Home by the England 1970 squad?

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Brookster | 12 March 2011 - 8:55am

The album of which came in an innovative

football-shaped sleeve (circular, not spherical, obv) which folded out into six circular sheets - not dissimilar to ONGF by the Small Faces.

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stimpy | 12 March 2011 - 12:55pm

Really?

The England team made a whole LP? What was on the rest of the album?

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Brookster | 12 March 2011 - 12:59pm

It was a long time ago

but, as I recall, a couple of originals and some covers of recent pop hits by combinations of players.

EDIT: Full details and pictures at http://eil.com/shop/moreinfo.asp?catalogid=106527

Track listing

1. Back Home
2. Sugar Sugar
3. Lovey-Dovey
4. Lily The Pink
5. You're In My Arms
6. Puppet On A String
7. Congratulations
8. Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da
9. Glory-O
10. Make Me An Island
11. Cinnamon Stick
12. There'll Always Be An England

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stimpy | 12 March 2011 - 1:10pm

Man Utd

sing LWTUA? I know less than fuck all about Football, but even I know that Ian Curtis was a Manchester City fan.

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Dr Volume | 12 March 2011 - 2:45am

Millwall fans

have famously changed the words of Sailing to "No one likes us, no one likes us, no one like us, we don't care. We are Millwall, super Millwall from The Den" which if not truly inventive has a self-deprecating humour to it. I heard it sung at a convention of foreign exchange traders recently with lyrics changed suitably. Many of the traders are likely to be footie fans and they certainly have an inventive way with insults and rhyming slang.

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Ozmium | 12 March 2011 - 8:41am

Jeff Beck cover version

I am of course slightly biased but this always does it for me

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cradlerock | 12 March 2011 - 2:29pm

Wolves have history

Edward Elgar was a Wolves supporter and may have composed the first football chant. Accordingly to the Elgar Society:

"At Elgar’s request, Dora sent Elgar a local press report of a Wolves match in February 1898. This said of one move involving Malpas that “he banged the leather for goal”. The phrase caught Elgar’s fancy and he sent back a letter on 12 March 1898 setting the phrase to 3 bars of music (vocal line and two stave accompaniment ) and adjusting the words to read “we bang’d the leather for goal” with a sforzando on ‘goal’."

(Dora was Dora Penny - immortalised as Dorabella in the Enigma Variations. Malpas was Billy Malpas, who may have spelt his name Malpass.)

You can buy the t-shirt here: http://www.philosophyfootball.com/view_item.php?pid=647

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Inky Fingers | 31 January 2012 - 10:18pm

Let's go

My memory of this is from the Kop in the 60s. It was the St John chant (now it is Dalglish). The songs played in the warm up to the game changed as the pop charts changed but this one was obviously retained, like, I think You'll never walk alone, because the crowd adopted it. From the middle of the Kop the clapping sounded like rifle shots because it was in perfect sinc.
What I'D like to know is the name of the pop song - and the date? -used for: "Scousers here, I don't know why
After the match they're gonna die"
I heard it at Maine Road a long time ago (but is used at other grounds)

Jed

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leajraws | 31 January 2012 - 8:26pm

The old ones were the best ones

Musing on this at a Cambridge United match the other week - basically, how unthreatening terrace chanting is these days. Now when I was a lad following Preston North End around the lower leagues virtually the entire match would be malevolent medley of "You're going to get your effin' head kicked in"/ "You're going home in an effin' ambulance"/"See you all outside" etc or if we were playing Blackpool something to do with Alan Brown's "tangerine bastards" falling off the pier to the tune of the ABC minors song...or something like that.

Some golden oldies that spring to mind - to the tune of Jim Reeves "Distant Drums" - yes, unfortunately "We hear the sound of distant bums"...Steam's classic "Na Na Na Hey,Hey,Hey...Preston North End" (still given an airing now and again I believe). At Cambridge you do hear the sadly very lame "Cambridge uh-huh, uh-huh United uh-huh" to the tune of KC and the Sunshine Band's "That's the way..." but being Cambridge they may be being post-ironic.

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Morrison | 31 January 2012 - 9:09pm

Half Man Half Biscuit

Hence HMHB's fabulous "You're going on after Crispy Ambulance" line from Running Order Squabble Fest.

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Red Umpire | 31 January 2012 - 11:37pm

The dimly remembered

Written by Giorgio Moroder, no less. Teddy Sheringham and Frankie Worthington were famous recipients; five-syllable footballer names being notoriously tricky to scan.

At Bolton, we always struggled with songs for Mixu Paatelainen.

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Brookster | 31 January 2012 - 10:28pm

oh no, there was always...

Mixu Paatelainen
What a fuckin' signin'
Come on you Reds, come on you Reds

[when he played for Aberdeen]

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Glenbervie | 1 February 2012 - 1:26am

What tune

was that sung to?

Best we managed was to the tune of 2 Unlimited's No Limits (and invented by my mate Phil):

Mixu
Mixu Mixu
Mixu Mixu
Mixu Paat-el-ain-en

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Brookster | 1 February 2012 - 8:09am

Ossie's Dream

The Mixu song at Aberdeen was also dusted off and adapted when he was at Easter Road. The tune was the classic Chas and Dav/ Tottingham number if I remember rightly.

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piggers | 1 February 2012 - 8:54am

To the tune of ver Quo's "Sweet Caroline"

Come on, Cheltenham Town.

Source: Ian McMillan.

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Moose the Mooche | 31 January 2012 - 11:10pm

Current favourite

From the Newcastle fans, to the tune of 'War':

"Ba! Huh! What did he sign for? Absolutely nothing!"

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Malc | 31 January 2012 - 11:27pm

Newcastle fans have form

I always liked them singing "Philippe, Philippe Albert, everyone knows his name" to the tune of the Rupert Bear theme.

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Hawkfall | 1 February 2012 - 5:49am

Eric the king

The ode to Eric Cantona sung at Old Trafford to the tune of Lilly the pink by The Scaffold. Oh and Ian Curtis might have been a Man City fan but Bernard Sumner Stephen Morris and Peter Hook are all United fans.

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Starlings | 31 January 2012 - 11:36pm

Berwick Rangers

Gold by Spandau Ballet ... seems inventive for five minutes then get dull very quickly if they've been playing at Montrose for example, you're coming back south from an Aberdeen game, and you're stuck in the same ScotRail carriage for an hour-and-a-half

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Glenbervie | 1 February 2012 - 1:30am

Unfortunately

we have nothing out here like the inventiveness of your football clubs/fans when it comes to songs and chants

this is about as good as it gets - the Richmond Football Club theme song:

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QueenslandLawyer | 1 February 2012 - 1:46am

Lally Stott and some shoppers

Lovely clip of Lally Stott doing the original of Chirpy Chirpy Cheep Cheep, a hardy perennial on the terraces what with its versatile "where's your (....insert relevant taunt here... ) gone?" refrain. Lally never lived to see his composition establish itself as a staple of the football crowd repertoire. He crashed his Harley in his home town of Prescot in 1977.

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Richard Lowe | 1 February 2012 - 10:23am
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