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Plagiarism In The (Print) Media

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Just wanted to ask a quick question on behalf of a friend who's finding their work being published in local/national newspapers/on the internet without so much as a thank you, or even permssion being asked. It involves an interview that he did for an amateur videocast he presents, from which quotes have been lifted directly and pasted into other articles. What I want to know is is this common practice amongst journalists, does he have a leg to stand on if he wants to confront anyone and what are the rules regarding this sort of plagiarism?

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This happened to me

some years ago.

A series of articles I wrote for a magazine were lifted wholesale and reproduced as the sleeve notes for a collection of major label CDs. The sleeve notes were credited to a (very) well-known folk music writer (and a man I'd actually met).

After being fobbed-off by the London branch of the record company I faxed the parent company in New York. Imagine my surprise when I got a call from the project manager in charge of the CD releases.

In hindsight I suspect he thought I had a team of high-powered lawyers poised and ready to sue his arse and was keen to settle out of court. In reality nothing was further from the truth, I had no way of taking legal action at all.

To cut a long story short, he confessed they were bang to rights and admitted to having read my original articles. He offered me a sum not unadjacent to TWICE the fee I'd originally been paid for the articles, plus a promise to change the credits on subsequent pressings of the CDs. I also got a huge box of free CDs.

Ten years on, I'm still waiting for the change of credit (the CDs are still in print), but the cheque arrived as promised.

In the end I got a result and was happy, if a little shaken to find that this kind of skulduggery goes on at such a high level.

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mojoworking | 27 March 2011 - 1:26am

Thanks for the reply

I'm glad you got (most of) what you wanted from your fiasco, hopefully my mate can get the same. I don't even think it's money he's after (he didn't even recieve payment for the original interview, he just did it as a hobby/fan); but he's miffed at the way higher levels of media have essentially 'stolen' from him and expected to get away with it. He just wants credit where credit's due.

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Tom | 27 March 2011 - 1:41am

Happened to me too

In a much smaller way a couple of months ago. A blog post I wrote on my own site appeared as an almost word for word copy on a well known American site - accompanied by the same image.

What made it particularly galling is that the post in question was up on this site dealing with issues of Foreign Policy in their New Ideas section!

I wrote the editor a very polite missive, it was roundly ignored.

I remembered everything that I had read in Flat Earth News, then forgot about it.

Unless you were paid for the original writing - and it is protected by copyright - the most you can expect is some form of attribution as amends, and for most of us that would be enough.

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James EB | 27 March 2011 - 9:17am

Happened to me too

In a much smaller way a couple of months ago. A blog post I wrote on my own site appeared as an almost word for word copy on a well known American site - accompanied by the same image.

What made it particularly galling is that the post in question was up on this site dealing with issues of Foreign Policy in their New Ideas section!

I wrote the editor a very polite missive, it was roundly ignored.

I remembered everything that I had read in Flat Earth News, then forgot about it.

Unless you were paid for the original writing - and it is protected by copyright - the most you can expect is some form of attribution as amends, and for most of us that would be enough.

Stop press: Spooky that we just wrote the very same words but hours apart! In my case instead of thinking and writing for several minutes I used cut and paste and it took a second. Perhaps 2 seconds. I suppose it's the written equivalent of illegal downloading of music. Did the blog have a comments section where you could put a link to your earlier blog? When politicians have given speeches nicked wholesale from elsewhere they are usually brought to account and expected to resign. A simple acknowledgement of the original source would resolve this situation.

Even The Word have had stories nicked and passed off as "exclusive" by other journals methinks.

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Beany | 27 March 2011 - 10:44am

Crikey

Thought I'd double posted for a second.

It is, as you say, far too common an occurrence these days though I would argue it is not the written equivalent of illegal downloading - it's more a form of passing off. If I downloaded Highway 61 Revisited I could hardly pretend that I am Bob Dylan...well, I could I suppose...

No comments function was available on the relevant section of that website or I would certainly have left a choice one.

And yes, many websites and magazines are similarly afflicted.

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James EB | 27 March 2011 - 7:01pm

Crikey - I did

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James EB | 27 March 2011 - 7:01pm

The internet has changed everything

As Beany says, when your stuff is plagiarised online, the most you can expect after complaining is a credit.

It's happened to me countless times and if it's unattributed I always send a polite email and they usually add a credit.

It's a different matter in the print media, but when it's online there's really not much you can do about it.

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mojoworking | 27 March 2011 - 12:08pm

Although

In print, pretty much every Mojo Special Edition seems to be a cut and paste job from Rock's Back Pages. Guess if you pay a subscription for that service you don't have to attribute - must check out their T&C.

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James EB | 27 March 2011 - 7:06pm

How irritating.

It does amaze me though that anyone would be happy ripping off someone else's work. I had a bizarre experience myself, years back. I went for a job interview as a radio promo producer, and bought my showreel along, full of trails I'd written and edited myself, including one ridiculous promo about exploding pensioners (yes, yes, very bad taste, it was a long time ago).

Turns out someone else, boarding for the same job, also had a trail on their showreel about exploding pensioners.

He'd heard my trail, copied it word-for-word, re-recorded it and then passed it off as completely his own work.

Happily, the truth came out, and I got the job, but that was strange.

Thing is, I got to know the guy later (we wound up working together), and I eventually realised that he hadn't done it maliciously, he'd just liked the idea, used it himself, but hadn't thought to let me know or give me any sort of writing credit.

PS Related website: http://www.youthoughtwewouldntnotice.com/
Basically, a place for people to complain when their designs are stolen by others. Focuses on design rather than writing. Unfortunately there's often not a lot you can do.

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Hannah | 27 March 2011 - 12:28pm

I would have thought that...

...taking the step of employing a solicitor* to communicate the details of the misappropriation of your work, thus alerting the other party to the fact and giving them the opportunity to remedy the situation, would stand you in good stead for any further action should they ignore you, wouldn't it?

*You needn't necessarily even go that far. When my parent's business was libelled on a forum, a carefully- and assuredly-worded email to the webmaster reminding them of their own personal liability in the matter was all it took to prompt both a profuse apology and an assurance to put things right.

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Paolo Meccano | 27 March 2011 - 2:00pm

Generating a cat / pigeons interface here, but

"The Massive Attacks", anybody?

(the OP doesn't make it clear (or clear enough for my tiny faculties to be sure at any rate) if his friend's work is enjoying the correct attribution or not)

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maggieloveshopey | 27 March 2011 - 2:44pm

actually, ignore that

It's bollocks. it's the element of surprise that's the crucial difference, as I realised nanoseconds after pressing the "post"button. I don't think anybody who's posted anything here would be surprised or distressed to find it in the magazine, would they?

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maggieloveshopey | 27 March 2011 - 2:46pm

Ummm....

It happened to someone who posts on another board I occasionally visit.

He'd taken some photographs of a local event, and had published them on his own website. A few months later one of the national newspapers ran an article on one of the entrants at this event, and paid him a small sum for the use of his photographs.

A short while later another newspaper (I won't say which, but it rhymes with Daily Fail) ran a similar article on the same person but this time without obtaining permission to use his photographs.

After protracted threats to the Daily Bigot with legal action, he eventually received a payment of over £1000 for use of these photographs.

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JQW | 27 March 2011 - 3:05pm

It seems a litte harrassment can go along way

He's finally managed to get credit for his work after sending a few e-mails, so the world isn't all bad. Still, I'm sure the there'll be more victims in the future. Ta for the comments, even if it is slightly worrying that this kind of thing seems to be a regular occurance- makes you wonder what they go to journalism school for, doesn't it?

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Tom | 27 March 2011 - 4:49pm
Hannah | 27 March 2011 - 6:13pm

I don't get that

That blog publishes four different RSS feeds so people can syndicate their content - and then they complain when people do so? If you don't want that to happen, format your feed so the content isn't displayed.

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Fraser Lewry | 27 March 2011 - 6:55pm

Check this link instead

The Londonist (the one with the four RSS feeds) was just covering the revenge story, they're not the ones who were ripped off.

My post would have been clearer if I'd added this link (from the actual site that was ripped-off): http://shepherds-bush.blogspot.com/2011/01/my-hammersmith-are-copy-thiev...

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Hannah | 27 March 2011 - 8:48pm

Oh, you were clear

The Shepherd's Bush blog also offers four RSS feeds - that's what I was referring to.

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Fraser Lewry | 27 March 2011 - 9:08pm

Oh!

I'd missed those feeds on the SB site.

*bows down to the master of websites and exotic meats*

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Hannah | 27 March 2011 - 9:21pm
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