time to top up their pension funds - or time for fans to take out that bank loan!

http://www.brain-damage.co.uk/latest/get-immersed-in-pink-floyds-back-ca...

although most of the live stuff is already out there - pity there's not more unreleased studio material included.

Drop me a line *taps nose*

BTW off to see The Wall at the 02 tomorrow. Anyone seeing any of the UK dates?

available on b**tlegs but it'll be nice to get the final, definitive version of the material.

Or 'vegetable man' or 'scream thy last scream'? Oh well, that's what bootlegs are for.

[blush]

Gotta be a DVD release of the 1980 show surely? Details held back until Rog has finished his Wall tour, so as not to impact sales, says my deluded, ever hopeful self.

to hear the version of ABITW played by EMI last week at the launch, which begins 'we don't need your adulation, we don't need your starry gaze' as this differs from the demo version widely available.

Thanks to the generosity of a friend who shelled out for this, I currently have it on loan for 'auditioning' purposes. Listening to the music as I type but I have to say that Storm Thorgerson has produced a lovely artefact.

It's a box about 10 inches square containing the following:

- 9 card coasters each with a letter on them spellling out PINK FLOYD
- A cheap-feeling nylon scarf printed with the DSOTM mandala
- A black velvet bag containing 3 identical glass marbles with the prism logo on them
- 3 matt black envelopes containing
1. Half a dozen 'Panini style' cards with pictures of the band and/or album sleeves
2. A single handwritten sheet on which Waters recounts the story of the questions he asked
3. A replica backstage pass and ticket stub for the 74 Wembley shows
- A small, sparsely written booklet containing the credits for the album
- A nice, well- produced photo book of the band around the DSOTM era
- A shiny booklet containing (mainly new) artwork based around the prism theme

Of course, once you've opened all the envelopes and looked at the ticket stubs etc, what happens? They all get packed away in the box and put on a shelf never to be opened again. Having spent 15 minutes going "Oooh..." at all the 'stuff', I don't feel the need to now buy the box.

on the unreleased material on disc 6 - is it worth shelling out for?

This really does smack of record companies on their knees trotting out any old crap that is presumably aimed at the majority of people who inhabit this site and others like it.

I'll pass.

I have the 25th Anniversary edition of DSOTM on CD which will suffice.

as mentioned in a previous post above - Bargepole thought he was quite well up on the wall demos, but hadn't heard this before.

just looks cheap, and, as someone who quite likes the Floyd (or at least used to), it sure does leave a nasty taste in the mouth.

Everyone who's commented here is healthily jaded enough to see this scam for what it is, but there will be 40/50-something men out there who will get excited by a bag full of stupid-looking marbles, two flimsy, unbound booklets that offer no new commentary, an envelope with a pretend backstage pass in it, and a scarf that will almost certainly make them look like Jonathan King. It's a fucking joke.

I will be illegally downloading the Empire Pool gig and the outtakes disc, even though I'm aware that it may raise the hackles of those of you who make music for a living. I've already bought DSOTM three times, and I'm not going to do it again. I do not believe for one minute that a single penny of this will be reinvested in new acts anyway, because EMI or whoever owns Pink Floyd this week have long given up on artist development in favour of this kind of stupid stunt. Any cash from this that The Floyd themselves don't see will go straight up the nose of some iPad-yielding twatwit in ugg boots.

The six-disc set of "In The Court Of The Crimson King", which is half the price and twice the album, is a much better example of how to treat your fans with respect. Robert Fripp probably needs the cash a lot more than Rog and Dave, but the Pangyric set was anything but greedy. The work that RF and Stephen Wilson put it into it was staggering: so much so, in fact, that it's relatively modest packaging becomes an irrelevance. When you're buying a record which is far more dense, complex and challenging than DSOTM anyway, you're much more likely to spend time with the music itself than you are fondling a box that which will probably be unglued by the central heating before the year's out.

There's a perfectly good reason why The Pistols never wore "I Hate King Crimson" T-shirts, and the difference between these two boxsets shows why.

discs 2 and 6 is already floating around - for example see 'the hard way' posted on dr j's other recent thread.