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Oh the record shops we used to know
The regular collapse of record shops is making me all nostalgic for those where I bought all my early favourite records. I can still remember the shops where I bought almost all of my records, something you just don't get on-line. Any Nottingham folk remember the following (are any still there)?
Revolver - just outside Broadmarsh on the oppostie side from HMV -I remember buying many Queen cassettes there, a Propaganda remixes LP and coveting, but thankfully never buying, Midge Ure's terrible (in hindsight) Bloodied Sword album - became Our Price I think.
Pendulum - in the Viccy market - lots of Sisters of Mercy 12"s and psychobilly comps - cheap new 7" too, got the box set of The Fall's version of Victoria complete with tacky plastic Victoria Cross for 50p (subsequently sold in straightened times).
Arcade Records - in West End Arcade good for nasty alternative stuff, there was another, second-hand place there too which was very good.
Way Ahead - before being a ticket agency it was a metal shop - much Metallica (2x45rpm versions of Ride the Lightning and Master of Puppets, also sold to raise cash - doh!), Kreator, Sabbat, bought there.
Selectadisc is still the best but it was on Bridlesmith Gate when I was buying Cure albums and Jesus and Mary chain cassettes.
EDIT - and I've just remembered a second hand shop at the top of Mansfield road where I bought a copy of Live Seeds without the booklet - it was just up from the really dodgy Army Surplus store where local murderers bought their weapons before Nottingham became the gunc crime captial of the universe (and possibly after...)
and on days in Loughborough, the Left Legged Pineapple was one of those shops (like Selectadisc) you could go into and find something you never knew existed, but just had to have...
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Skeleton Records in Birkenhead
In its initial incarnation, no storefront - just a doorway that led down a narrow corridor to a single room downstairs. There was an 'upstairs' but that felt very out of bounds to this 13 year old schoolboy.
Skeleton was mainly a 'second hand' emporium, selling cheap but buying extremely cheap as well. Covers only in the racks, you took the sleeve up to the 'head' behind the counter who located the vinyl from the racks and allowed you to 'inspect' the grooves for condition before parting with your cash. Loads of samplers for 50p, countless copies of Medicine Head's 'Dark Side of the Moon' and loads of cheap Hendrix collections on obscure Spanish labels.
Also, for a time, a few racks of 'imports', all on the TMQ label (the one with the pig) that were tantalisingly priced out of my reach but occasionally I was able to treat myself - 'David Bowie In Person' on blue vinyl...later officially released as the Santa Monica concert...Stormy Monday by Derek and the Dominos which sounded like it had actually been recorded outside the concert hall...
Eventually they dropped the boots and moved to larger premises with windows that let in actual daylight and it was never really the same - although I did hear Anarchy in the UK there for the first time ever as the shop, along with the rest of us, gradually shed its hippy past and embraced the new music. But the magic, the 'edge', had gone.
But still, I occasionally pluck one of my old albums from the rack and - even 35 years on, the faintest Proustian whiff of patchouli lingers on the inner sleeve....
Oh, and an honourable mention for Probe in Liverpool
Possibly the most intimidating record store in the country, run by 'The Prof' and supported behind the counter by Pete Burns amongst others. Just round the corner from Erics and populated by many of the Liverpool scenesters of the late '70s.
You had to be very sure of your choice before going up to the counter as the contempt could be withering - but oh, the sheer joy of getting the occasional approving nod as you presented with trembling hands the latest 'Dalek I' or Bouncing Babies by the Teardrop Explodes...
TMOQ/Swinging Pig?
Sure you're not conflating the 'Trade Mark Of Quality' and 'Swinging Pig' labels?
Yeah they're the same I think
*thinks*
Sisters of Mercy bootleg, bought in the back streets of Brussels.
Which makes me think of my year in Lille. The lovely La Boucherie Moderne was still there last time I went back
Hmmm...
Sisters Of Mercy was a *long* time after TMOQ ceased trading - almost all the original TMOQ output was Zeppelin/Dylan/Stones/Hendrix and their contemporaries. Dub and Ken had pretty much stopped releasing gigs under the TMOQ banner by 1974.
I seem to remember that there were many couterfeit TMOQs - often of much lower production quality and originating from Italy - maybe the Sisters Of Mercy was one of those?
must be that - but actually
must be that - but actually a pretty decent quality bootleg if I remember right (at least compared to some of the shockers I ended up with)
actually this website has my
actually this website has my Sisters album (Live in Amsterdam) listed alongside all those Stones etc ones. Dunno if its a cock up though
http://www.theswinginpig.net/index.php?sent=allescdnum
That's The Swinging Pig...
not TMOQ, the two were very different. TSP was around quite a bit later than TMOQ, which was one of the very first bootleg labels (as opposed to ad hoc bootleg releases)
Somebody mention The Sisters Of Mercy?
I also have a TSP TSOM CD, this one to be precise -

and can vouch that the sonic quality is probably the finest on any Sisters boot I own.
should you be requiring any other aural delights by the 'industrial groove machine' do feel free to get in touch
you ain't seen me, right
Hi Stimps
This is what I'm talking about - not sure if the 'Swinging Pig' is something different....
...and the detail....
Looks genuine to me!
Being a fanatical Zeppelin bootleg collector in my younger years, I used to have many of these - lovely artwork :-)
The 'Swinging Pig' label was a cartoon of a pig in a pork pie hat, smoking a cigar, and snapping his fingers
Different but similar
Both labels had pigs on them. TMQ had at first a cigar smoking pig's head which later became a full porker sans cigar. Swinging Pig was the jolly swine dancing on his hind trotters.
My mate Gerry, who came from Birkenhead, had that D&D boot so I guess he got it in Skeleton as well. And I agree, the quality is appalling.
The Left Legged Pineapple
A Non-Mega Store that closed their actual shop a couple of years ago. I was buying Northern 7"s when I was at school in Loughborough in the mid-80s. I haven't used Selectadisc for a good few years. They were always much more competative on price with a wider selection than Leicester's equivalent Rock-a-boom - which is still going. There's a Pendulum in sunny Melton Mowbray that's still going. I was spending about £40 a week in there in the mid to late 90s. I might spend that twice a year these days..
there was a second hand place in an arcade in Loughborough
where I remember buying the "Peace Together" album to get Fatima Mansions' (actually not that great) version of John the Gun - so must've been early 90s.
I'm pretty sure that it was in the unit across the passage from where Next is in this picture
http://www.inloughborough.com/images/100_0843.jpg
So, if you were at school in
So, if you were at school in Loughborough in the mid-80s, do you remember Castle Records in the town centre shopping precinct? I bought Ocean Rain, Psychocandy and King Of America there, among others. Is it still there?
The Left Legged Pineapple was run by a lad called Jason White, who dropped out of my school to set it up. As I recall, he had a loan from his mum and dad to get started. Shame it's closed as I'm sure I could otherwise have walked in even now - at least 18 years after last setting foot in it - and he'd say 'I've got some new Residents LPs in'.
I remember Castle records now...
...I think I bought Thank God It's Christmas by Queen there.
I spent a lot of time in Loughborough 'cos my mum worked in the library there.
btw are you aware of The Wave Pictures? Originally from Wymeswold I think, have put out much goodness in the last year or two, including the very accurate "Friday Night in Loughborough".
Sorry, no
... I left the area some time ago.
BTW, Selectadisc opened a shop in London (Berwick Street, the scene of the What's The Story (Morning Glory)? album cover). For me, it was the best CD shop in London. Now sadly closed.
Happy New Year !
I know I'm wibbling to myself but...
.. i'm now remembering record shops from a month spent in Japan where not only were solo artists filed by first name (which in those pre i-tunes days seemed very odd) but also according to the Japanese syllabary - so, for instance, all the "L"s and "R"s were together
I was thinking the very same thing
After all the recent comments on this site, I was thinking exactly the same thing. Where did I buy my first single? HF Sheffield in Abbots Langley (in 1972?). Where did I get my first download? Not a clue! In Watford we never had a cornucopia of shops but there was a great record stall in the market, Harum records was never too keen to take back a poor pressing (their method was to put it on their turntable in the shop on a busy Saturday afternoon and say "I can't hear any surface noise"!). We had an Our Price that was one half of a clothes shop that mysteriously closed after a couple of months. There was a great shop in St Albans Road as well (I can't think what it was called) that I seem to have bought all my punk singles from in 1977 because the owners, although hating the genre, had their fingers on the pulse and ordered the right stuff.
When I was at college I spent loads of cash in The Music Shop in Newcastle Under Lyme (they had a loyalty scheme back in 1977).
CASSmusic
In Eastbourne. Fabulous racks of arcane west coast rock and british underground stuff, manna to my hungry ears between the ages of 14 and 16, with a liberal approach to possibly daily reqiests to listen to whole sides on headphones. A rack of 3 or 4 phones was sited so you could continue to browse while you nodded along to Jefferson Airplane, the JSD band or Aynsley Dunbars Retaliation. Me and my chums even enobled the sales assistant, a generously built woman in her late 20s, as Suzy Creemcheese, hot off those Zappa covers. And you could be seen in the shop from outside! How cool was that, to be seen to be a dude in headphones. Um, and school uniform.
I remember it well
It later became Max Records, with fluorescent yellow bags you could see your way home by.
Northampton, circa 1983
1) Spinadisc on Gold St. Good for limited edition new releases. I bought the 12" picture disc of Marillion's Market Square Heroes here, which I sold for a vast profit. The shop later moved up the road to Abington St, but finally closed it's doors fairly recently. The original site is now the home of Spun Out, who sell bangin' house tunes and hoodies.
2) Our Price on Abington St. Site of my first single purchase, Abba's I have a Dream. Now closed.
3) Beatties in the Grosvenor Centre. Department Store site of my first album purchase, Iggy & The Stooges Raw Power. Now closed.
4) The Fish Market. Literally a stall set up in the corner of Northampton's fish market. Good prices if you didn't mind your previously-owned Scorpions and UFO albums smelling of halibut. Now closed.
5) Bruce Bunker on Abington Avenue. Small shop with a beardy-bloke selling second-hand vinyl out front and fixing TVs in the rear. Where I spent 90% of my money, and bought my first triple live album, Yessongs by Yes. Now closed.
6) A second-hand store on Bridge St I can't remember the name of. Wasn't as cheap as the Fish Market or Bruce Bunker, but had a better selection, especially for 7" vinyl. Now closed.
7) There was another store on Abington Square, a thin, dark, narrow place who would actually import albums to order. Probably the best store for new records in the town, but, once again, I can't remember what it was called. Now closed.
8) A couple of years later, Pied Piper opened up on Wellingborough Road. It seemed overpriced at the time, but the infamously grumpy owner is still plying his trade, as far as I know. Home of the Penguin Price Guide for CD and Record Collectors.
Grumpy is good it seems...
...we've recently lost a couple of shops in Sheffield (Forever Changes and Spin City). But the famously surly bloke at Jack's appears to have expanded (it's now very good).
No-one as grumpy
as the old bastard that ran the Diskery in Birmingham. It's first incarnation that i remember was on Hurst Street down from the Hippodrome. It had great listening booths and i clearly recall listening to the whole of the latest Hawkwind album with the sweet smell of incense increasing my listening pleasure.
Also the first Virgin in Birmingham pre Tubular Bells at the bottom of Corporation Street replete with aircraft seats and headphones.
I really believe that someday this will come back - call me naive but I think there will be a nostalgia for this kind of shopping pleasure as people tire of the online experience.
Lincoln, early 1980s
I'll do Lincoln then...
1) Sanctuary, just off the upper part of the High St, opposite Ruddocks. Tiny boutique-style place. Bought Queen I & II there at the same time (!) when I was 11. My parents were not amused.
2) Tracks, right next door to the market. Bigger than Sanctuary, but can't remember much else about it, except that I used to spend an awfully long time looking at the Roxy Music sleeves despite not being interested in their music (if you know what I mean).
3) Pride, in the Stonebow Centre (which, hilariously, must have seemed a cutting edge shopping experience circa 1982). Once cycled there and back, from Washingborough, on 15 consecutive school nights in anticipation of the release of Twisted Sister's You Can't Stop Rock N Roll album (too dim to actually ask for the release date).
4) Broadgate Record Exchange, on Broadgate. Fabulously dank and seedy place, stuffed with second-hand bargains, old hippies, offcuts of carpet and those overpowering gas heaters. Later moved round the corner, further down Monks Rd.
5) Signals, in the Cornhill. Metal/Rock specialist, named after the Rush album. Good bloke owned it, would let me exchange pretty much anything I wasn't happy with, but then I must have spent hundreds in there in the late 1980s.
6) Can't remember the name but there was a place at the top of Tentecroft St that, I think, was an electrical shop, with the records at the back. Remember more parental outrage at the very concept of having bought an AC/DC album & a Black Sabbath picture disc together, from there (you'd have thought the 2 Queen albums would have softened the blow?!?!)
There were other places too, but I better get back to doing some work.
GRUMPY JACK
Oh yes, me and my friend often complain about the guy who runs jacks records in Sheffield, many a transaction can be made without him uttering a single word!
Many of my favourite record shops stem from the early 80's such as;
Piccadilly Records in Manchester, when it used to be actually in Piccadilly Gardens.
Probe in Liverpool, and yes it was rather intimidating as Paul has said.
Sydney Scarborough in Hull, many of my first post punk singles bought there.
Mike Lloyd and another in an arcade who's name escape's me, in Stoke. Metal bias here but you could easily pick up the new tuxedomoon release.
And possibly my fave, Selectadisc in Nottingham both in its old position and even its new location, although on my last visit it had seem to shrunk somewhat.
It seems perverse now thinking of some the downright strange and obsure records you could pick up in these stores...Bedtime for Bonzo mini lp anyone
late 80s/early 90s manchester
I remember Piccadilly Records in its old position too (it's still a very good shop today - I even got a free mug last time I was in)
Afflecks Palace used to have three or four good record stalls, and the old Eastern Bloc
Vinyl Exchange was always comprehensive but never the cheapest second hand store - I know they opened a second branch off Deansgate after I moved away, dunno if it's still there.
And I have very fond memories of Power Cuts - god I bought loads of crap there because it was cheap - it was often a struggle geting up the stairs afterwards.The only profit I think I ever made selling a record on - apart from the Fall 7", was on a Stickdog album which I'd bought for 29p and sold on for about £4.
There was even an occasionally interesting remainders shop in the Arndale Centre for a while. I bought a terrible Blood and Roses 12" single there for 29p which I now regularly see in second hand shops for anything up to a tenner. I've kept it because the cover has a green cobweb on a shocking pink background which looks like it wobbles under artificial light...
Vinyl Exchange
Second branch = now closed.
Main store, lots of CDs, not just vinyl. I like the quick turnover concept. If it does not sell the price gets reduced on a regular basis until it does or ends up in the very cheap bargain bin where most obscurities go to die.
Power Cuts In Manchester
I'd forgotten about the place. Their annual sale used to have people queuing from the early hours. The Sale started at 6 in the morning or something.
I'd buy loads of the same item thinking someone'll want this, they never did, Icicle Works - US Vinyl Cut Out Edition of Blind anyone?
Piccadilly Records
is currently celebrating it's 30th anniversary. They've produced a nice free magazine - covering the best ofs of the last 30 years. If you spend £30 you get a free mug. My bill came to £29.97. They gave me one anyway.
I remember Sydney Scarborough in Hull
Spent a year at college in Hull and that was the place where I picked up early REM and many of the C86 type singles - Shop Assistants, Soup Dragons, JAMC etc. I grew up in a bit of a cultural desert so hull and york were the nearest places to find decent record shops. Yotk is now my nearest city and it was a shame when Track closed down but I also remember another one on Goodramgate - was it Cherry Red records ? - where I certainly remember buying Billy Bragg's first album. There were also a number of 2nd hand shops in those days (80s) but can't remember names - one in the Davygate Centre (now Gap) and another right by the river.
Oh - and I bought the Bloodied Sword - can't say I've listened to it since its release though !
Robin's Records in Norwich
Not forgetting Tapes Too, of course, on the other side of Pottergate, with its display of new release singles above the counter, with coloured vinyl taken out of the sleeves, natch...
RR had a must-be-seen-with black-and-white carrier bag for albums, and - I'm sure this might have been the case elsewhere - a system whereby you could reserve any promo posters and other material by having a sticker with your name put on it and then take them home when next month's releases replaced them. eBay must be chock-full of such stuff from the late 1970s now...
As I recall it was also the purchase point for tickets for bands at the local university, such as that one time in 1981 when The Jam, Madness and the Au Pairs all played in the same week. Those really were the days...
I seem to recall
...a shop in Bolton called Tracks. Was this a chain, or is that a connected series of flexible links?
Sorry.
Boltonians are now ably served by X Records, while those in neighbouring Bury have been supplied by Vibes for 31 years and counting. I once dropped a pristine copy of Meat Is Murder, procured therefrom for three English pounds, through the cracks between the floorboards of Gigg Lane's South Stand and into the netherworld beneath. I had to go back on the Monday to fetch it with the help of a half-confused, half-amused groundsperson.
Ah, nostalgia
In the 80s in Bolton, there was the choice of:
Woolies, Boots and WHSmiths (seems strange to think that Boots used to sell records)
HMV
Derek Guest
Edwin P Lees (possibly)
X-Records was the best, but only in its Manchester Road incarnation. It was not arranged in a manner that meant you could actually find anything, but that was part of its charm.
Gloria's Record Bar....
...Battlefield Road, Langside, Glasgow, 1968. I am buying a single of Jimi's All Along The Watchtower and the helpful assistant points out that it is a stereo recording - wondering whether my old Dansette would be able to play it. In those days, at least the Decca records came in both Stereo and Mono, differentiated by blue and red inner sleeves.
Sullivans Records
Sullivans Records in Gorseinon, seven miles from Swansea. I was led to believe by the owner that it was one of the 300 "Gallup" shops*, whose sales directly counted towards the (in those days) hallowed top 40. He backed this up by the vast collection of limited edition singles, signed copies, and picture disks etc that his shop offered. During my 12" buying heyday one could watch Saturday mornings chart show and nip across the road and purchase said single, even if it was languishing in the bottom of the top 75. On visiting my Mother this Christmas I was extrememly sad to see the shop has closed down recently. A little bit of me died when I saw that.
*BTW if anyone can cornfirm that his "we are one of the 300 Gallup chart shops" was bollocks, I'd be happy to be told.
Sundown Records -Wolverhampton
Wonderful emporium where all my pocket money went in the mid 70's on Camel lps!
Thanks for reminding me!
I've been reading this thinking you lot have all got much better memories than me.
I spent many a Saturday in Sundown Records in the mid 70s. My pitiful pocket money allowance meant that purchases had to be strictly rationed but I bought a lot of Blue Oyster Cult LPs in this shop and another place in a shopping centre - can't remember the name.
I do recall being deeply impressed by the selection of solo Kiss members' picture discs. Never bought them though.
other vinyl loitering in Wolvo
There was Goulds in the Wulfrun Centre (still have "Goulds TV" on the price stickers on about 300 of my LP's), Ruby Red Records that did a lot of soul, Beatties was often cheapest for obscure special orders, a reggae place in Whitmore Reans whose name I forgot and a Soul guy Wednesfield way. Loitering in record shops was an important performance art form in itself and staff who'd put records aside for you they thought you'd like and would play them to the whole shop when you went in, often to your embarrassment. Vinyl is the only physical format with increasing sales from '07 onwards.
Egham
Egham had a Record Library. I used to go and borrow LPs from them in the mid 70s and put them on cassette! The selection was amazing, items you only could read about in ZigZag. They would never sell them either and I was too naive then to say that i had "lost" them. Oh well.
One Wonder
Studio One, situated in the car park of Scarborough Railway Station. Looked like a shack, but treasures a many could be found every Saturday afternoon. Good old "Quiet Nigel" behind the counter, really miss that place and his bargains a plenty.
Rhythm Records. . .
. . . in Reigate. Tag line on the bags and in the local cinema ads "There is no form of music without rhythm".
Used to go in there from school and ask to listen (obviously because I wanted to buy) to whatever. The assistant would take you into a proper listening booth and reverently place the LP on a turntable and then leave you in there to listen to whatever it was. Of course I never used to buy - I mean 32/6d for an album was WAAAAY outa my reach. After a while they used to give me the record and I would put it on myself.- I was in there so much that I used to help the customers when they came in !!! I remember when they had a closing down sale and had dozens of original mint copies of "From Genesis to revelation" there - could have made my fortune !!. They had a shop in Redhill too which turned into a pizza place when the record shop shut down.
Then came L & H Cloake in Redhill - a chain of shops (well if two is a chain) originating in Croydon. That's where I got my green vinyl "Happy Xmas war is over" and the limited edition Led Zeppelin "D'yer maker" single. Then that closed down and we had an Our Price which turned into "No it's not Virgin honestly" "V-Shop". Then sod all after that which is how it remains to this day. Reigate had an "Our Price" which was the size of a small shoe box and now they've got jack too.
I used to go to Beanos in Croydon too - they'd pay you 75p for something and then flog it for £200 the next day !!!!
The Other Record Shop Hartlepool
Deserves a mention, second hand record shop and gig ticket agency where I exchanged my prog albums (and some money) for punk/ new wave stuff in the late 70s. I believe its still open for business 30+ years later. Not sure if John the original owner is still there.
Other shops worthy of note
Track in York now sadly no more
Windows Newcastle- musical instruments, HiFi and records - still the same
Fopp Leamington - a revelation when it first spread down from Scotland - back catalogue CDs for a fiver
Glad I wasn't the only one who found Probe intimidating.
Intimidating Record Shops
Why did we stand for it? I hated some of those tiny suburban record shops because I remember feeling very small, unrespected and mocked. I was pretty much a child back in the late 70s and the disdain from the counter if you asked about something that did not meet their arbitrary criteria was amazing. It was like dealing with a bunch of Comic Book Guys in the Simpsons.
And unlike Strobe in Liverpool, these weren't people on the threshold of greatness themselves. Punk had not happened at all, as far as they were concerned.
Somebody beat me
to mentioning Vibes in Bury. In the 80's, when I worked nearby, I used to frequent said groovy disc emporium everyday to check the charts, the cheap box and take in the, er, vibes. Also, as a chart return shop, they got all the promos. Like a Talk Talk CD in a wooden box with pencils and rulers.
And Power Cuts, where you went in without a clue what you were looking for but came out with something totally obscure and very cheap. Sure I got my Sesame Street LPs from there...
So I will chuck in the great Jumbo Records in Leeds, especially when located in the Merrion Centre. In the late '70's I was given £30 each month to stock up the Poly jukeboxes, and spent it all in Jumbo on stuff for me. Then I would blag freebies from the record companies (hi Stewart at Phonogram) and put them on instead. Somebody once broke into one of the jukeboxes, not to steal any cash but to obtain a copy of Anarchy In The UK. Smashed the glass with a bare fist, leaving a trail of blood out the door... Twot.
Merrion Centre
Ahh the Merrion Centre, I remember it well. There used to be a lovely cafe on the second level, they did a great breakfast. Fine memories indeed, sadly the cafe is now closed.
Chip butties!
Mind you I spent many an hour, day and night in The Sandwich Box, later Terry's All Time. Before one gig at the Poly I told a mate to take the group for refreshments there and even now I have to recount the tale for his friends and colleagues that he went for a chip butty with Manfred Mann.
Oh, oh, almost forgot Gerol's (I think that's the name) secondhand stall in the Merrion Market. Come to think of it, there *seemed* to be a record shop on every street in the late '70's.
Vibes!!!
I spent a fortune in there over the years!! I just wish I'd kept at least one Vibes record bag. I used to have them all over my room.
Was Powercuts downstairs behind Oxford Road somewhere? I always thought it was called Yanks for some reason....
Probably
because most of the LPs were American cut-offs. I only threw away a plastic bag from Power Cuts last week. Should have put it on Ebay...
Vibes is stil there in Bury but their sister shop Muze is now only mail order. A quick google shows they have a website here:
www.myspace.com/vibesrecordsuk
Name changed
I used to go there too on my infrequent visits to Manchester - normally a pub crawl across the city an it was on the way to the bus stop to Rusholme for the inevitable curry.
At some stage it changed it's name because they ran a contest to get customers to rename it. I think that it was Powercuts first but I'm sure a local or ex-student will able to put us right.
According to a similar thread I started on the Hawley forum...
...it was Yanks before it became Power Cuts.
Also made me think of King Bee records in Chorlton, which was very nice to spend time in (though i don't think I actually spent any money there...) My wife worked in the toy shop next door for a bit.
...and the pre-bombing Corn Exchange
which had two or three decent record stalls and a rarities shop in the basement where I got a promo copy of the Blue for Ceacescu 12"
I forgot that!
Yet I could spend a whole day in the Corn Exchange on a summer's day, if I could stand the heat. Like being in a permanent record fair with some stalls selling dragons and books for a change. Not real dragons mind you. Being in Manchester they would be indie, baggy dragons...
The IRA have a lot to answer for. Are there record stalls in Afflecks? I feel I am too old to venture into the palace and would be laughed at.
haven't been in affleck's for a good decade or more.
Am pretty sure the records stalls had more or less gone even then
Actually I'm not even sure it's still there.
Sêlenby in South Harrow -
Sêlenby in South Harrow - second hand shop - fantastic!
Ezy Ryder in Embra
Was the place to go for 2nd hand stuff. At the time it was located in the delightful Oddfellows Hall in Edinburgh. took me 2 weeks to summon up the courage to drag myself in through the oh so cool doors, and an hour to decide on "If You Want Blood" by AC/DC as my first ever album purchase.
I followed them for many years through various locations before they eventually vanished, although I did have a long chat with one of the guys who ran it last week, when I found him working in Unknown Pleasures in the Canongate, when I was buying a Nitty Gritty Dirt Band album there.
Back in the day, Phoneix was the place to buy NWOBHM stuff, and they even had their own label that Holocaust released their classic and not so classic stuff on. One of the band worked there, natch.
Honourable mentions go to Listen, The Other Record Shop (not the chain) and to the still going Backbeat and Record Shak, but not Vinyl Villains which is too indie by far.
Vinyl Villains
any of my trips to Embra in the 80s always included a rummage at VV, wouldn't exactly call myself an indie type tho. They did have The Sisters Of Mercy's First And Last And Always in gatefold for twenty quid, wish I'd bought it now.
Andys records
in Bedford high street was a great little shop for us poor kids. They used to import albums from europe and undercut hmv & our price by at least a quid. Also they were to blame for my enduring love of the edgar winter band.
Cruisin' Records
Does anyone remember us? Just wondering. From 1971 to 1974 the entire Cruisin' Records staff consisted of me and Max, apart from a year that I took off to retire to the country, during which I was replaced by the Hon. Jenny.
We were on a stretch of Tottenham Court Road that has long since fallen to the bulldozers, and we specialized, like a little brother to Musicland and One Stop, in U.S. imports. In reality, we spent our time getting wasted in the back room, emerging to be haughty with any hapless tourist that came in off the street to ask for, say, "She" by Charles Aznavour. If they wanted the Dead, Gram Parsons or Motown they were OK and worthy of our hazy attention.
In my favourite remembered incident, I was reclined in habitual pose of cowboy boots on counter, stetson tipped over eyes, cheroot in mouth, when I heard a timid request for the Beatles White Album. Now, this was acceptable, if somewhat old-fashioned, so I merely sighed, before opening my eyes to find the stunning Anne Bancroft facing me across the counter. All my fake West Coast cool deserted me and I leapt to my feet to scurry round the shop obsequiously for her. Charming, she was...(and at that point the Mrs. Robinson effect was still quite fresh).
Barney Bubbles came by and painted a wacky nouveau-kitsch masterpiece on our shop window. Meanwhile the inside mural featured my own, more humble, contribution - sort of sub-New Riders Of The Purple Sage desert skulls and lassos.
We also bought in second-hand LPs that we resold, which was a good scam when it came to cooking the books.
Someone out there must be old enough to remember us, in which case...thanks for your custom!
Pablo El Bandido
Cruisin'
Ola Pablo
I remember Cruisin' well. Bought a copy of that US cartoon-sleeve Man Who Sold The World there...
I wrote the Barney Bubbles book; we have a blog (at http://barneybubbles.com/blog) which features new info, images and interviews pertaining to the great man and his work.
I'd love to feature your story with any additional info (was the painting for the Chilli Willi album Bongos Over Balham maybe?) you might have.
You can contact me here or via the site. Got any photos you'd like to share?
Leicester Record Shops
Fondly I remember...and not in any order either!
Ainleys on Belgrave Gate
Revolver on both Eastgate and Market Street who did the Leicester Mercury's Top 30 every Friday.
Rock-A-Boom in St Martins
BPM on Granby Street
Archers on High Street
Classic Tracks on East Bond Street from a former employee of Brees Music on Churchgate.
Virgin Megastore in the Haymarket (in the 70s) before HMV and then MVC moving in the same place.
Our Price on Gallowtree Gate and The Shires opposite Mothercare.
St Martins on High Street and Horsefair Street
Not forgetting my Saturday job (twelve unforgettable years of compiling mix tapes) at World Records on London Road. I was the only woman working there but built up my musical knowledge from the men who worked there...JC, Simon, John, Steve and Iain.
With the event of Zavvi closing there is only HMV left in the city centre. Sad isn't it?
PS Almost Forgot these too!
MG Records on Granby Street
Boogaloo Records on Granby Street
Glasgow...
Oh Lordy! where do I start?
city south c.70:
the Co-Op - Main St., Rutherglen (hidden on the right, over at the back in amongst the 'repaired electronic goods waiting for collection' area) outstanding Moody Blues and CCR selection (3 by each), no other artists featured
Hamilton Road Records - Hamilton Rd. (see what they did there?) Rutherglen - Pay Dirt, at last! All the Young Dudes (lp) and Doremi.
city central c. 1972 - 79:
Listen - Cambridge St.
Cuthbertson's Pianos - Cambridge St.
Hades* - West Regent St. (did I imagine this place?)
23rd Precinct - West Regent St.
HMV - Renfield St.
Virgin - Argyll St. (aircraft seats, patchoulli sticks, head shit etc.)
city south c. 1972 - 79:
Gloria's Record Bar - Battlefield Rd., get on their mailing list, they'd invite you to a special 'open day sale' on a Sunday - it was early 70s and everything being closed, this was a very attractive option for a 16 year old pop picker - actually, nothing was on sale, but Hey! it was 3pm on a wet Sunday in Glasgow and I bought an album by Albert Tatlock (Jack somebody) called "Ow Do" a series of Northern stories of "Ow 'ard t'were back in't day" but with an humorous twist, natch.
city central c. 1979 - 80/90something:
Big Listen - Renfield St.
Wee Listen (this branch changed to Bloggs as the Listen empire expanded) - Renfield St.
Wee Bloggs - Saint Vincent St. bought JD's Closer in there, took it back the next day because it was depressing the hell outta me
23rd Precinct - by now putting dividers requesting that if you really needed to see the sleeve of any release by Carcass, you request it at the counter and provide proof of age
HMV - Renfield St.
Virgin - Renfield St. (high street store shit etc.)
Cassa Cassettes - unfashionable end of Renfield St., cassettes only
Bit of an anodyne record emporia blur after that, until 1990:
TOWER RECORDS - corner of Renfield and Argyll Sts., sorry, I've gotten all giddy remembering my hours in there.
I have my 4 years in Dundee at art school and 3 years in Falkirk as a designer in the museum still to add, but that's enough for now
*I descended a steep narrow stair bathed in red light but, more importantly "that Weekend World theme was playing" - s'ok, I own it now
Take care of your memories ...
What memories, indeed ... There was a record shop at Belfast city centre called The Gramaphone Shop ... it had class and a comfortable room at the rear where you could sit and LISTEN to your records before you had paid for them. Smyth's in Queen's Arcade was smaller and the man behind the counter, presumably Mr Smyth snr, wasn't keen on rock music ... I went in there with my mother and father to buy Elvis' My Baby Left Me ... he put the 78 on the turnable to let me hear it ... I heard the crash, bang, wallop of the drum and bass intro and quickly handed over the cash to purchase. "You're quite mad," he sternly told me. My mother wanely smiled. Later there was Doughie Knight's on Botanic Avenue. Dougie was a mine of information and generous, too .. it was there that I later took most of my Elvis LPs for swops and cash ... but not my Elvis Presley No 2 with the tinted Daily Sketch photo of Elvis on the cover in his green velous Memphis shirt. Even later there was Hector's House ... again it was a treasure house of hard-to-find bootlegs and rarities ... got the Harry Smith American folk music box set there. Ah, memories ... all gone and the shops, too. Shame ... looking at records now in the likes of Tesco and Asda is not the same and never will be ... what was it Bob Dylan told us to do ... "Take care of your memories ... for you cannot relive them ..."
The Camden run
I've ignored London so far but did live there for 10 years a fair amount of it just up the hill from Camden, in the late 90s/early 00s you could do a saturday morning run - Rhythm, goth nostalgia in Resurrection, MVE the three pokey ones on Inverness street and on to Tower. Shame that by then all the good stalls that used to be there in the late 80s/early 90s had gone off the market
camden...
I visited Camden Market (is it still there?) regularly in the mid-80s, in fact it was a Cheap Day Out on Saturdays for us broke studenty types, as was my demographic at the time. Cheap food and clothing, one or two reasonable pubs and lots of record stalls and shops could all be found, then home on the 29 bus (which was, of course, still a Routemaster). Them were t'days. Perhaps.
As far as I know the market's still there
...at least the bit that didn't burn down but it's very spruce and la-di-da. You wouldn't recognise it.
This well contributed to post.....
...surely shows the depth of despair that selling music has dipped into. I am sure that for many of us the only carrot of a shopping expedition en famille has been the opportunity to slip off into an appropriate emporium. There are none such left in the majority of shopping streets now. I had the misfortune that is Sutton Coldfield last weekend, desperately hoping that the one record shop I remembered may still be there, despite the closure of the other one I used to frequent. Needless to say it wasn't. I even made the wrong step into the WH Smith sale, trumpeting it's 100s of CDs (and DVG+Ds etc etc) in their clearance. My arse, like the Lichfield store, it barely carried the "Top" 9 CDs and none of them were either worth having nor worth the prices marked. I find on-line browsing more or less impossible, missing the prompt of covers and names, even harder this year as HMV no longer have search facilities for folk, country etc etc.
Heeeelp: how do I and my ilk scratch this itch? I want to make mindless musical purchases, full of taste and charm. I am being denied this basic human right!
Shops on every high street
Through the door, past the hanging displays of smelly old clothes, shelves bulging with jigsaws, books and worthless pottery, to the back of the shop and behind the boxes of Mantovani LPs you might find some CDs. Mainly Daily Mail freebies, 5 Star, Blue and Steps but keep going. There could something there that takes your fancy.
If not, nothing lost. Just hold your nose on the way out. Try not to knock over the huge display of unwanted VHS fillums and keep-fit videos.
Bin there dun that....
Nowt in Oxfam, British Heart Foundation or St Giles' Hospice shops that same saturday, but I await some peoples resolutions to clear out their attics etc. Found some nice second hand socks and pants, tho', only slightly worn, bit bobbly in the crotch, if you know what I mean, with that reassuringly homely smell of old dog.
The Sounds of Music (Nenagh)
moved about town for many years stocking mostly horrible Irish C&W bands and equally horrible metal but was the only gig in town. In fairness Rodge would "order" anything for you and you'd get it in a couple of days. I suspect he simply used to buy the (Clash/Smiths/Bragg) records "ordered" in chain stores in Dublin and mark up by 50p.
Sutton Coldfield
is no longer on my list of places to frequent for shopping trips for that very reason. The MVC there was very good and the Virgin Megastore was not bad plus you had Ottakers bookstore a couple of doors down. Now the town like its inhabitants is bereft of any cultural identity - a malaise that is spreading throughout the land as we increasingly become more sanitised in our lifestyles and allow our shopping habits along with our viewing and listening pleasures be dictated to us.Frankly to put not too fine a point on the matter I think it's a crock of shit but we only have ourselves to blame as we blindly worship at the altar of Asda and their numerous cohorts.
I would love to find some bargains in the myriad charity shops and at the same time provide small amounts of money to those in need but unfortunately I have yet to find the bargain that various other Word folk have been lucky enough to locate. I dearly would like the Bowie give away cd from the summers Sunday Mail as i missed out on it at the time but I cant find it for love nor money.My experience of charity shops involved rummaging through Mantovani, Val Doonican and Styx albums - not an experience to cherish.
Alan Fernley's in Middlesbrough...
...took all my money when I was at Poly in Teesside 1976/79 s/h albums for 97p. The beauty of the place was it was near the cafe/bar/lecture rooms so every time I passed i popped in cos some new collection would appear so often you found yourself walking out with the Doors back catalogue and virtually all of Eno's Obscure label which many years later I sold for £30 a piece plus the rest of the collection to fund a book www.kevincoynebooks.com.
But the strangest place I ever visited was in Manchester/Salford in the days when every University could guarantee a record shop nearby. Walked up some steps past boxes of self recorded cassettes to enter a rather large shop. Straight away - "if you're just browsing it's all over priced - if you're after a rarity its cheap and you'll pay it - if you just like the look I'll tape it for you." Always thought I'd dreamt the place until a Record Collector highlighted it.
David's Records in Bracknell
Well stocked, staffed by two blokes who, to a 13 year old boy, were not only cool but had the best job in the world. I swear you got a slight nod of appreciation if you bought something outside of the the top 40. It's now a Chinese takeaway.
Beanos
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7750581.stm
Beanos of Croydon, in south London, used to be the biggest second-hand record shop in Europe, with its Singles Bar department boasting copies of virtually every seven-inch to make the charts since their inception in 1952.
But the shop has been struggling to survive for the past two years, and is set to close by March 2009. Beanos has already disposed of its last remaining singles, with only CDs and vinyl LPs still in the racks.
Interesting facts: The first 45 rpm disc, Texarkana Baby by country-and-western singer Eddy Arnold, was issued by RCA in the US on 31 March 1949.
Seven-inch sales peaked in the UK in 1979, when a staggering 89 million of them were sold, but once the CD hit the market, vinyl of all kinds went into sharp decline. In 2001, annual singles sales dipped below 180,000.
Just my luck
I first heard of Beano's many years ago, but had never visited as it was too far away. I then start working in Croydon; on one of my first lunch breaks seek out the shop, only to be greeted by the Closing Down sign!
Berkhamsted!
Well, there was WH Smith, wasn't there? That's where I bought all my records from 1982 to around 1987 when I started to brave the jaunt into Oxford Street. WHS used to have all the Top 40 singles up on the wall; great stuff.
Only encountered the independents when I set off to Bristol University: Revolver (slightly intimidating), Tony's (with Grumpy Will, absolutely incandescent if you tried to pay with plastic), a couple more on Park St I forget the names of, Music Stop in Redland (great secondhand selection) etc. Later, London brought Selectadisc (with its fabulously snooty staff) and Sister Ray - but alas.
Revolver was a fine place...
...the day it closed I bought most of the card CD sleeves off him. Thousands of 'em! I'm still using them to this day
Ipswich
At one point (circa 79): The Record Shop, Disc'o'Round, Parrot Records, Virgin and Andy's Records. Plus good stocked Debenhams, Woolworths, WHSmith, Boots etc
Now: HMV (sob)
Spillers, Cardiff
Despite the broom cupboard size, always a well stocked larder of Loop, Spacemen 3, Butthole Surfers and co. The counter seemed an intimidating fortress protecting an army of musos. Hated taking defective stuff back there because they would always play it loud over their sound system to check it out. Great days. I think it is still alive. Wasn't there a preservation campaign?
The oldest record shop in the world.......
Spillers was still alive when I last visited Cardiff - still a lovely "old" record shop. It is also the oldest record shop in the world, apparently. Blurb following from Spillers web-site.
"Spillers was founded in 1894 by Henry Spiller at its original location was in the Queen’s Arcade, Cardiff, where the shop specialised in the sale of phonographs, wax phonograph cylinders and shellac phonograph discs. In the early 1920s, Henry’s son Edward took over the running of the business and, with the aid of the popular accordionist and band leader, Joe Gregory, sold musical instruments alongside the pre-recorded music. In the late 1940s, Henry moved the shop around the corner to a larger premises on The Hayes, where it has happily remained and thrived ever since."
Dundee
Will pick up from James Blast - see above
Many's the Saturday morning spent in Groucho's in the Perth Road, which was a second hand shop. They used to date stamp their records inside the sleeve when they took them in - so I can still see where and approximately when I bought them. Last time I was in Dundee - about 4 years ago) they were still in business although had moved to bigger premises in the Nethergate. Good luck to them
Chalmers and Joy had a shop in the Hilltown (where I bought my first LP - Fairport's Angel Delight). And they also had a shop at the bottom of Albert Street, where because of a pricing glitch I got Physical Graffiti on day of release for £3.14. They later moved to Seagate
Bruce's had a shop in Reform Street when I was at college. Spent large proportions of grant (remember grants?) there.
I & N records in Perth Road (remember buying RT's guitar/vocal there) - they then moved to Crichton Street.
Boots used to have a good sale every now and then which for years featured copious quantities of Andy Fairweather Low LPs for some reason. Some ordering malfunction c1972 I guess.
An anuual highlight was also going to rugby internationals in Embra and spending the morning in Virgin records which was in a little shop in a street behind George street (I think)
Now live in Northampton and I can confirm (see Frasers post above) that there is still a second hand record shop in the Fish Market - although it is now an artists centre rather than a fish market. The owner looks like he may have been there since the 60's. !!!
A belated thank you
only just returned to this thread today and many thanks for filling in some (loads actually) blank spots in my memory. I was in Dundee between 1977-82 I suspect we may have been drinking in the same establishments: Mennies, Foreigners, The Vennel?
Where I get My Stuff From Now...
...Huddersfield Market - park in tescos and there is a guy in the market undercuts them on new CD's - sells mainly Games but he also picks up some Random stuff - David Byne's The Knee Plays was the last one I got. Also a man who sells the Rarer live CD's from everyone but also does the full Cherry Red catalogue. Not to mention the old codger that deals in old style C&W but will suddenly aquire very odd stuff for him - Pixies/ David Sylvian and many Death Metal CD's.
The only remaining record "shop" in Lichfield
A small shop shut down last year, but was frankly not up to much. Not counting Smiths (see above!)or the supermarkets, or the 4 charity shops and definitely no longer counting Woolies, this leaves a solitary market trader, who specialises in comp games and DVDs more, I would say, but who always has a tray or 2 of £2 CDs, never stated as to whether new or used, but I suspect must be the latter. Tends toward the poppier end of what they now call R'n'b (but ain't nothing to do with the Stones or Pretty Things)but the occasional odity lurks. Managed to spend £8 with relative ease on saturday, but can't remember for my life what I bought, but Talk Talk rings a bell and a Ray Russell (jazz guitarist, later siding with Heaven 17, I think) CD that looked interesting.
Have to say that...
...if there's enough photos still in existence, with a bit of expansion on the anecdotes there has to be a book in this thread.
Word writers stitch it together, get Guy Garvey to do a preface, stick it in the site shop and bingo, there'll be a copy in the bog of every Word reader come next Boxing Day
"Compact"
This used to exist in Manchester Arndale in the early 1990s, on the upper floor down the side of BHS, pretty much where "Game Station" is now. It was a fairly decent record shop which only seemed to stock CDs - hence the name - but their main feature was a healthy selection of bootlegs. I remember buying maybe half a dozen Prince bootlegs from there, including my first ever CD of "The Black Album" (a snip at £40) and a few live albums, but I was stung by one called "Uncut Diamonds" which featured rough versions of songs from "Diamonds and Pearls", along with out takes, and sounded as though it had been recorded on a dictaphone through a wall.
Oh, and "Play Inn"
This had two branches around Manchester that I knew of - one in Eccles, and one in Swinton - and the Eccles branch was staffed by two blokes who were always both in no matter when it was you went, and they had a habit of quoting prices in that DFS way, so instead of charging "four ninety-nine" for a cassette they always used to ask for "four-nine-nine". They also sold a selection of Mastertronic games on cassette for Spectrums, and had an array of styluses (styli?) on the wall behind the counter. It was great.
St Albans
In the town centre we had two Our Price stores,one of which became Virgin for what semed like a fortnight before becomming an Early Learning Centre.My first record's were from Timothy Whites, which had a step down alcove selling records and needles for your sterogram. We also had The Record Room on Chequer street. They always had a huge catalogue on the counter, which seemed to contain everything ever released by anyone ever, and it was the only place that sold imports.For a few years, after the Chequers bingo hall closed, there was a record shop at the front of the old building. It used to advertise the album of the week, by putting the sleeve in a frame on the column outside, I know I bought a Police album there (Zenyatta Mondatta, if you're interested) but I'm buggered if I can remember the shops name.
Apart from a small department in Boots, and the sadly departed Woolworths, there was always a few stalls on the market. One stall still remains, down in the Market place opposite Currys. They always seem to have a varied selection, but for how long is anyones guess. Now it's just HMV, which seems to be mainly for Games,DVD and Ipod accessories.
Ah! Timothy Whites - we had
Ah! Timothy Whites - we had one of those in Watford too.. was it a nationwide chain?
I recall buying Talking Heads Remain In Light from Our Price in St Albans (I think it's now a Phones 4 U shop) and strapping it to the rack on my motor bike only to get nearly home when it flew off the rack and separated into it's constituent parts; bag, sleeve, inner sleeve, record. The record was covered in mud and scratches and unplayable - I had to wait until the following week to get another copy.
Yup
Timothy Whites was a competitor to Boots. I believe Boots bought them out in the mid 1970s
Before that you could wisecrack
Q. Why did the skinhead go to Timothy Whites?
A. Coz he didn't want to Bovver Boots'
(chortle chortle, snigger snigger and so on)
Former Our Price capital of the world
Yes it's now a phones 4 U.They used to have a small Our Price video shop beside it as well. The other branch was in The Maltings shopping centre. Three branches in a city the size of St Albans, and all within 5 minutes walk of each other. No wonder they went to the wall.(sadly)
An ode to Barney's, St Neots....
Now Woolworths has closed in my home town (St Neots) we have nowhere to buy CDs anymore. We used to have the most amazing independent music store called Barneys. It was one of the dying breeds where there were CDs and tapes (!) stacked to the ceiling spanning almost every genre imaginable - classical to electronica, folk to prog rock etc. And if they didn't have it, they would be able to order it in for you - they even managed to get me a copy of the Toyes!
Unfortunately last year it became all to obvious that it was, in fact, the CDs which were keeping the shop standing and so Barney's ceased trading whilst the shop was quite literally rebuilt. Unfortunately Barney's never came back. Instead we now have a posh wine shop which is always empty and bound to fail in the current economic climate. And I have to buy all my CDs online :-(
Harpenden...
...had one indie for years, Classical Rock, which had a shite name but was the only place to hang out at lunchtime once one had achieved 6th form status and was allowed to leave the compound. Every album I remember with fondness from my teenage years I bought there: Floyd, Mode, PSBs, everything that screams the years 1988-91. Plus! 50p clearout 12" singles, 25p 7" similar. I got "Sit Down" by James there, on Factory, for 25p. Bargain.
There was no competition in the town for years. Then WHSmiths moved in (although, in 2009, it's about to announce it's giving up on music) and then Sainsburys.
I grew up, moved away, and on coming back for Christmas I find only Sainsburys. So that's a choice of 50 CDs against 5000 then.
I'd hate to live back there now.
Another vote for Probe here.
Although a small point of order; The Prof was a member of staff during Probe's Button Street golden age but, unless he took over much later, the actual owner was always the avuncular and very funny Geoff Davies. As well as Pete Burns and his wife Lynne, other Probe staffers who went on to bigger things were Pete Wylie, FGTH's Paul Rutherford and Gary Dwyer of The Teardrop Explodes. Another former Probe alumnus, Bernie Connor, has written a good piece on Probe on his podcast blog, to which I urge you to subscribe.
http://tsom.mypodcast.com/2009/05/bernie_connor_presents_the_sound_of_mu...