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Oasis - Time Flies

GunsOfBrixton's picture

Soundtrack to a generation as the ad says or lumpen prole rock for people who don't like music? Discuss.

Having listened to it it is a fine singles collection.

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Well the ad would say that, wouldn't it?

The soundtrack to the dullest musical generation of the last 40 years- the 90's.
I'm not a fan,obviously. Sorry.

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Grant | 18 June 2010 - 7:16pm

I'm not much of a fan either

If it were 15 songs long rather than 27 or whatever it would be great. That just about sums up their career really.

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GunsOfBrixton | 18 June 2010 - 7:26pm

That's too much for me

Their musical and lyrical limitations / "borrowing" from better songwriters was all too much for me.

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Grant | 18 June 2010 - 7:38pm

For my money...

...there are probably 12 tracks there which deserve to be on a best-of. They're not my style, Oasis, but I get why people like them.

That said, well over half of that record is bloated guff.

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Bob | 18 June 2010 - 8:07pm

If it were a compilation of Noel and Liam's interviews...

it would be so much more entertaining.

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Patrick Crowther | 18 June 2010 - 7:20pm

I had fun in the 90s. It wasn't dull.

Danced my ass off, took a pile of drugs, saw Jeff Buckley, Tricky, Underworld, Daft Punk, Bjork, Aphex Twin and a pile of other acts I still really love.

Liked the first Oasis album but never bought any of the rest and never saw them live. But the nineties weren't dull...

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ganglesprocket | 18 June 2010 - 7:39pm

Okay

Maybe I'm being a bit "tar them all with the same brush" as all the acts you mention are pretty good.

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Grant | 18 June 2010 - 8:13pm

During the Britpop years

I was working (literally) half a world away in the putrid cesspool of Townsville, Queensland. You guys had Cool Britannica and we had the far-right Pauline Hanson and her One Nation party. I had picked up a fair bit of Britpop stuff from Supergrass, Pulp, Super Furry Animals, Gorky's etc but had nothing by Blur or Oasis.

A year or so ago I picked up compilations of each for a couple of bucks and gave them a listen; a sort of delayed 'battle of the bands'. My verdict? Crap.

I really tried with each, keeping them on high rotation on my ipod for months. Oasis really were unbelievably plodding and dull, and sounded like a very dumb, hollow pastiche of their influences. It was so workmanlike and boring that it's hard to imagine how huge they were at the time. To me, the Verve's 'A Northern Soul' covers the same sort of musical ground much, much better.

Blur just came across as a bunch of prats and Damon Albarn's voice made me want to slap him about the head (a feeling that continues with his current output).

Maybe if I'd got into this music at the time I'd like it now. I still love Supergrass, Gorky's, Pulp and the Furrys. It seems to me that while all the attention was on the big two, there was a lot of far-more interesting stuff happening on the edges of the scene.

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Podicle | 18 June 2010 - 11:18pm

Oasis

Britpops equivalent of Status Quo - without the ability (or desire) to laugh at themselves

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jackthebiscuit | 18 June 2010 - 11:22pm

As Noel Gallagher modelled...

...a 'Quoasis' t-shirt after Blur called them 'Status Oasis', I really don't think you can accuse them of being either humourless or self-unaware.

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Paolo Meccano | 19 June 2010 - 9:11am

I might be wrong

But wasn't it Alex James from Blur who wore that first on a TOTP performance?

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stepheny | 20 June 2010 - 10:54am

I don't know about that...

...but Oasis definitely (ha!) produced 'Quoasis' shirts as part of their merchandising and Noel was photographed in one.

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Paolo Meccano | 20 June 2010 - 11:12am

I have a theory about Oasis

Do you want to hear it? It's that Definitely Maybe is a great debut, but limited, but then they made it again with the vastly inferior What's The Story, which must be the world's most over-rated album and they were in a rut. Be Here Now showed ambition and was a step forward but the public wanted more What's the Story, and the press were sick of being bossed around by Creation, and so there was a backlash that caused Noel Gallagher to lose confidence and he a.) decided to settle for the sound of Definitely Maybe, though found himself unable to replicate that album's charisma and b.) let other people in the band write the songs. With Dig Out Your Soul they finally decided to play some different games with their toys, but it was too late by then. So in the end it was a lack of ambition that killed them, and the turning point was Be Here Now. Had that album not suffered the backlash it did, and had Noel not lost his nerve as a result they would have gone on to become an interesting band, rather than a rather boring one.

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Albert Edward | 19 June 2010 - 6:53am

I don't think Oasis's music stands up

there are one or two songs they did that were ok but there was no real wit or imagination. They don't really stand up to repeated listenings.

I'd rather listen to songs by Lennon/McCartney,Ray Davies, Andy Partridge and Jeff Lynne they all have far much more to offer

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MrRadio | 19 June 2010 - 7:26am

They came at the right time

1992 was the worst year ever for rock music and we needed something different, if not new and original.

Oasis provided that and I really like the first two albums.

The new box set is worth it alone for Noel's commentary on the videos - like the post above states his interviews and quotes often bettered the music in their latter years.

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Uncle Wheaty | 19 June 2010 - 9:05am

My Oasis theory

All you need is the first two and the b-sides disc because the rest is like being forced to eat grey cardboard!

I've got an Oasis theory too. The final showdown between the brothers may have been very real, but i think Noel seized that moment as an excuse to get out. I think he knew that their best was long behind them, and they were just going through the motions.

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jonnyartist | 19 June 2010 - 9:14am

Oasis are the musical Quentin Tarantino

Well timed debut stands up well, but it was more a case of exactly the right thing at the right time. Then successful but ultimately hollow follow up. Lost loads of fans with the next one. After that it's just a question of life being too short to bother. Both Oasis and Tarantino would have benefited hugely from doing a Terrence Malick. Or even a White Stripes. But, in the end, their output exceeds their range by so much as to make a great many people apathetic.

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Lucas Hare | 19 June 2010 - 9:50am

And I can't resist saying

"Time Flies? Not when you're listening to All Around The World it doesn't."

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Lucas Hare | 19 June 2010 - 9:52am

Noel's desire to get out of Manchester

get off the dole and away from dull, grinding jobs was the impetus behind those first two records. Once the money and the quality drugs arrived they simply lost that motivation, churning out increasingly dull material just for something to do.

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Prestonia | 19 June 2010 - 9:53am

I will happily argue

I will happily argue with anyone that their last two albums ('Don't Believe The Truth' and 'Dig Out Your Soul') are the best albums they made.

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kidpresentable | 19 June 2010 - 1:00pm

I care not a jot for Oasis

but I like Noel Gallagher very much. Listening to him sing and perform Oasis songs it all makes sense.

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Dave Amitri | 19 June 2010 - 6:34pm

Definitely..

..one of, no the most, entertaining interview of his generation. No question.

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Prestonia | 19 June 2010 - 6:41pm

I'd like to like Oasis...

as I've got a lot of time for Noel Gallagher. He is a funny man.

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Patrick Crowther | 19 June 2010 - 7:08pm

Absolutely right

witness his interview with Danny Baker a few months ago - "that's why you present a radio show and I'm an international rock star!"
Personable, witty and erudite - the exact opposite of his brother, who is, as Norman Stanley Fletcher would say, "a charmless nurk".
Maybe now he's away from Liam's corrosive influence, Noel might be capable of producing solo stuff as good as 'Don't Look Back In Anger', 'Half A World Away' or 'Acquiesce'. I'd listen to that.

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MichaelC | 20 June 2010 - 5:46pm

I know not the man

Funny isn't it? If it doesn't turn out just the way we want, we fall over ourselves doing the denying thing: whether it be Oasis or New Labour. For what's it's worth I don't know anyone who didn't vote for TB in 1997 or who didn't own the first two Oasis albums.

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thelastvalley | 20 June 2010 - 10:07am

I voted against the Tories in 1997.

I have never owned an Oasis album.
At the time I absolutely loathed them.
Nothing to deny.

However I have developed a sneaking regard for Noel over the years & I think he's written a handful great pop songs. He seems like a good bloke.
I just can't get on with the lumpen racket his band made 80% of the time.

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Adman | 20 June 2010 - 12:01pm

Adman

That is EXACTLY my position - well said

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jackthebiscuit | 20 June 2010 - 5:58pm

Nice one, Our Kid!

Sorted!

;-)

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Adman | 20 June 2010 - 8:03pm

I absolutely voted...

...for Labour in 1997, and again in the following two elections. This last time is the only election in which they've not had my vote. What's to deny?

I also own "Definitely Maybe" and "Morning Glory", despite not having any serious regard for them. It was a case of being a teenager and not being able to ignore a 9/10 review. Again: nothing to deny.

Do you meet a lot of people who claim, falsely, that they never voted for Blair or bought an Oasis record, then? That's odd.

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Bob | 20 June 2010 - 12:26pm

Noel superb

Best thing he ever did was get rid of his average, one pitch, broether who describes himself as a singer.

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Axekeith | 20 June 2010 - 12:20pm

Agreed

I've always preferred the songs he sings on.

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GunsOfBrixton | 20 June 2010 - 3:47pm

Noel

doesn't have the ouright power of Liam, but Liam doesn't have a volume control, so regardless of the song, he belts its our whereas Noel's softer voice seems better suited, which probably shouldn't be surprising as he writes 99% of them. Looking forward to his solo output.

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Axekeith | 20 June 2010 - 7:10pm

I'm not totally averse to Wonderwall

or one or two of the other hits.I've always found them a little bombastic,they just leave me feeling a bit queasy.They sound a bit ersatz,contrived.
Should have called it "Likely to Attract Flies".

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Pencilsqueezer | 20 June 2010 - 5:06pm
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