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Now Hear This CDs suffering from the credit crunch?
Anyone feel that the musical quality of the Now Hear This CDs has declined recently? That may be because the Word has decided to request record companies (who already supplied their recordings free of charge) now also pay for the mechanical royalties that the Word has to pay to the songwriters. Many labels are unprepared to do so and may decide to include their recordings on other magazines' covermount CDs instead where those magazines realise or at least accept that such royalties are a price worth paying. If the Word is unprepared to pay the songwriters out of its own coffers and effectively sidles up to all those who download music for free, then it should cease including the CDs otherwise where does that leave the creators of the content that features in most of the magazines pages ie the songwriters? The poorer yet again for sure.
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Oooh
A first-time poster. Clearly no agenda here?
and only
a member for a hour or so
I disagree completely on the quality of the CD
Covermounts are usually awful and I rarely waste time listening to them. Word are the only covermounts I always listen to and I usually put more than 50% of them onto my iPod.
This month's CD is a cracker. Apart from tracks 4 (too down-tempo) and 15 (music is nice but I hate the singing) all of it has been ripped. I've listened to it three times as background music which is a record for a covermount. It really works as a straight through from start to finish listening experience for once. The best covermount I've heard.
Being contrary
I immediately went to track 4 and I loved it. Must check out this Priscilla Ahn fellow.
I often feel quite guilty because I don't always listen to the CDs - I subscribe to the magazine for the writing. But , when I do listen, I like most of the stuff on there. And this month's, on now while I'm typing this, sounds pretty good. Will try to do better with the listening in future.
Priscilla Ahn is on it? Excellent!
She was on Later a couple of months ago, and she was great. I shall look forward to listening to that.
I hope someone else out there enjoys the Mummers as much as I do - and the track on Last month's Now Hear This, Lorca and the Orange Tree, is one of the best on their album.
Ooh, ooh, me, me!
I don't know how much you enjoy the Mummers but it's a fair bet I enjoy them just as much!
Saw them on Later... a couple of months back and was undecided as to whether to buy their album until I heard them on Now Hear This. It's a fantastic album and I'm pretty annoyed they're playing Latitude on the day before I go, grrr...
Do we buy the Word for the CD?
Would magazine sales suffer for the lack of it?
Are artist sales increased through it's inclusion?
I'd find out the answers to this first.
Confused
Labels are willing to donate tracks to covermount CDs as long as it doesn't cost them anything? Sounds like they're doing OK out of the arrangement: none of the costs, but a share of the benefit. And I thought the music industry was in trouble.
I don't know about the royalties thing
...but I do know that the last two CDs (not including the current one which is sitting there on the table waiting for a proper - and for some reason now traditional - Saturday morning listen) were two of the best I have received for months. So unless the new one has taken a massive dive, I disagree with the idea that the quality has dipped.
Turning to Spinoza's question, although I love the magazine, I'm not convinced I'd be a subscriber if it wasn't for Now Hear This. I see the CD as an essential soundtrack to the magazine, as well as a valuable crowbar to my wallet for the featured artists. I'd hate it to disappear or even, for that matter, reincarnate as a downloadable file. Even the worst discs feature 2 or 3 stand-out tracks, and I love putting an old one on at random to see what suddenly grabs my attention.
If that's the case
and the cover price reflects the inclusion of a CD [therefore not free ] then perhaps a small royalty payment to the artist is only fair.
Then again if the Word pays for the mastering and packaging of the CD it could be perhaps considered free advertising [ rather a good deal ] ... I'm assuming the record company incurs zero cost in it's track inclusion.
Do you ever purchase an album based on a Now Hear This track?
Far too many
I think my album-buying has increased far too much since I became a subscriber - there's a whole new world of 'essential albums' opened up by the CDs.
Reckon
it must be well over 100 albums for me given the number of entire back catalogues bought after initial interest was sparked by a track on the CD.
I thought this months was poor overall
Did make me think that record companies might not be giving the better stuff away for free anymore
Cover CD
I joined this blog many moons ago to voice my support for the CD and I'll voice it again. I have a three year overseas subscription and I definitely wouldn't renew it if there wasn't a CD. It's my most important source of new music and not a month goes by without me buying, minimum, two or three albums thanks to the CD. Certainly haven't noticed a decline in quality - almost without exception they're always half good, half unlistenable.
Mutual Benefits
There is surely benefit for all in the CD. Word get added value from the inclusion of the CD. Record labels get an avenue of promotion to the album the track is from and the artist gets direct access to a group of people that spend more than the average on music and will likely buy a CD based upon hearing a good track several times. And I get a cd with (normally) 3 or 4 tracks I really like.
So, as long as all parties are happy to contribute (and those that aren't can surely not allow songs) everyone's a winner (baby).
And the quality doesn't appear to have shifted downwards to me.
The magazine replies
It costs us £250,000 a year to provide the Now Hear This CDs. In addition to the costs of manufacturing and packaging, which are climbing all the time, we have to pay over a £100,000 a year in mechanical royalties and we have to pay that on the CDs that go with unsold magazines just as much as on the ones that are sold. In order to reduce our costs we ask either the publishing companies to waive those mechanical royalties or the record company to make a contribution of less than 50% towards them. Most of them are happy to do so because they recognise the value of getting their new artists heard by a readership who are happy to try new things. If we were seeking to exploit songwriters we would obviously be exploiting the names of better known ones. Most magazines' cover CDs consist of sub-prime material by well-known acts. We don't do that. Instead we provide our readers with 180 new names a year. It's the kind of policy that Sir Humphrey would have described as "very courageous". Your point about "coffers" I don't understand, even theoretically. Obviously if people did feel that the standard of the Now Hear This CDs had declined they're free to say so. In fact they generally let me know if there's even a couple of tracks they don't like, which just shows how closely they listen. (The post above, which distinguishes between "good" and "unlistenable", is a standard response. Generally what one reader regards as good another one thinks is unlistenable. That's life.)
David Hepworth (real name)
If it's costing you
£250k a year, much as I like the cds, I'd rather you kept the money, dropped the cd and did a few more podcasts instead...
Interesting......
How many casual buyers would you lose *IF* you dropped the cover mount? Can't remember if all the monthly glossies still go with one?
Personally subscribe to the magazine for the writing, not overly fussed about the cd to be honest.
Agreed
I buy it for the writing too. And much as the CD has introduced me to brilliant bands, I am backed up with ones I have not had time to listen to, so would not mind if it was (say) 4 per year rather than one per issue. But very happy with the quality.
I am horrified at how much it costs you, but don't want you to spend the money doing more podcasts instead simply because I don't have time to listen to all the ones you do already. And I want to, and it makes me feel bad, and they sit around clogging up I-tunes so the point I may have to buy a new pc.
I DO want you to stay in business - so whatever it takes please.
We're not magicians and the CDs inevitably vary in quality
depending on what's out there and what we can get. But even though I work here, I think the last few CDs have been genuinely strong, we're proud of them, we play them in the office for fun and the stuff we have lined up for the future is particularly good.
I take issue with Bootspinney's suggestion that we're lining up alongside people who download music for free. I've lost count of the number of people who've told us they have discovered and bought music because of the WORD CD. When I was watching the Hot 8 Brass Band at Glastonbury a reader came up and said that he discovered them through THE WORD. Yes, we're a business and anyone who reads the papers knows that times are tight in media, but it seems to me that the CD does a valuable job for artists and readers alike.
I'm not taking issue with the promotional usefulness
of the CDs but the fact that where once the Word did pay the songwriters now, effectively, they do not.
The promotional argument could be used for all media like radio & TV ie. why should the radio & TV stations pay the songwriters when they are simply promoting the music? If that were the case, all songwriters may as well give up and get another job as they won't be getting paid for the music that has been used and that they have probably spent a lot of unpaid hours making.
I reckon most bands would forego the couple of hundred quid
just to get their track to 35,000 potential fans.
With the magazines there's usually some kind of blurb or editorial [ track run-down, review or article] that goes hand in hand with the music...maybe the journalist should charge the bands for this service? Probably even itself out at the end of the day.
“songwriters may as well give up and get another job”
If songwriters can’t make a living selling their songs it isn’t a “job”.
Word readers are avid music consumers and buyers. They’re also “early adopters” and, to some degree, trend-setters. You wouldn’t believe how much most producers in most lines of business would pay to have their wares sampled by such a potential clientele.
Don’t poke gift horses in the eye, Bootsy old fruit.
Just like a real job
I am a consultant and trainer, and am busy writing an outline of a presentation I am going to give at a (free) conference for which I will be paid precisely nowt. I might get a cup of coffee. Maybe. The reason I am doing it is to get in front of people who might buy my services later.
Same as the CD and bands, I think. But rather less glamorous.
The problem with the likes of whoever it is
The problem with the likes of whoever it is who started this thread is the enormous sense of entitlement.
A newcomer to the board, pursuing a very specific agenda, he or she hasn’t had the courtesy to state their real name and their real business so we can only make presumptions. I’m presuming:
* a songwriter, or someone with some financial interest in a songwriter, who’s had a song on a Word CD and takes this to mean that 35,000 people have “bought” that song (and that he or she therefore should be Augusting at a swanky villa in Juan Le Pins)
* the sort of person who, when his or her career in music fizzles out, if it ever really got started, will complain that he or she wasn‘t “promoted” properly by the record company/publishers/management.
I don’t know much about how the business of music works but we’re all familiar with up-and-coming acts buying onto major acts’ tours etc. and i always presumed that slots on the Word CD were, if not paid for, certainly free as far as the magazine is concerned. Genuinely surprised that the magazine had to pay anything to showcase the work of desperate-for-publicity acts to a prime target audience. It‘s like ITV paying to host Rice Krispies adverts.
I'm a songwriter
and I would glow with pride if one of my songs was on the Word CD without any wish for more than the exposure to a mint audience - I'd buy Heppo a significant number of pints if I thought that would swing it, which I know it wouldn't. More's the pity.
So Bootspinney
who do you work for?
I find these posts
particularly distasteful/cowardly. Throw the stinkbomb into the room, close the door and walk away.
I know!
A couple of minutes with Google was enough to work out Bootspinney's identity.
I won't say who he is, but I won't be purchasing anything published by Domino Publishing ever again.
Now that's not nice
Domino are a brilliant label, whatever your opinion of Mr Spinney's post.
Would this have anything to do
with a new literary/music magazine with a tie up to a record label type thing? Surely nobody would be so dastardly as to come on a rivals web-site to try and stir up trouble!
I'm sure I'm mistaken but if not I'd appreciate you keeping me in the loop.
Name the troll
Some of us don't have the time or inclination to play google detective, so if someone clearly is trolling then let us know who they are
Just..
Type "bootsspinney" into Google. You get only a handful of hits, but one includes a real name. If you then Google for that name alone you get a certain record company executive.
He's a dentist?
weird
:)
Ex GP I think
and what's weird about dentists?
Nothing
usually
Two hits
I only got two hits. One was to this blog, and the other a location for a branch of Boots. Never mind, it was only idle interest to know who the culprit was.
Personally I love the CDs, and being in Australia I didn't subscribe until 2 oe 3 years ago because according to the form the overseas subs didn't include the CDs.
Ah...you didn't put two ss's in the middle
bootsspinney.
I found a name
But it meant nothing to me.
It probably means nothing to most of us.
The absence of any further comment from Mr Spinney and his Boots is perplexing. Why post such a long contribution if you can't be bothered to reply more than once. Unless he was hoping to launch a torpedo, but found it was in naught but a dud.
Well, if we see
Joker's Daughter on the next CD I'll be amazed.
Seems that our friend Mr Spinney
Loves to sell records on ebay too. Surely they wouldn't be promo copies would they...?
this is getting silly
Most of the people on here don't post under their own names for understandable reasons. I think trying to 'out' this feller's identity is a bit out of order.
I disagree
If you're a regular contributor using a pseudonym I don't have any problem.
Mr Spinney on the other hand has made 2 posts only. The first a huge, but apparently self interested complaint about terms and conditions Development Hell use in compiling the cover CD and the second a follow up comment. Then no more.
So if you're not going to contribute in any other fashion I think outing said chap - even though his name means nothing to me, is fair game.
blimey
I think the CDs are rather good.
Artists are prepared to stick their tracks up on Myspace et.al. for nothing, why on earth should a covermount CD be any different?
If artists want the royalties to start rolling in they had better get their music out there in front of an audience that is overwhelmed by choice, and persuade them to invest their money. Otherwise, just lock it up in a filing cabinet somewhere and complain that no-one loves you.
Royalties
Actually I'm a bit surprised that you have to pay royalties on a cover mounted CD, I just assumed that the publicity and interest generated for the record company and artist was more than enough. It is advertising after all.
I'm also amazed at the yearly cost of producing the CD and it is interesting to see some comments from people who say they would not subscribe if it wasn't for the CD, learn something new...
I think the CDs are excellent, for me I would subscribe to the magazine without it but I have always found them to throw up a few excellent tracks on each one and have certainly bought albums from bands I've liked the sound of.
Of course there are going to be some songs that appeal and others that do not due to the wide mix of styles featured, it's sort of like "Later with Jools Holland" - such a cross section that you might tut and moan at one artist but be impressed by something you might not necessarily have listened to.
The only way to stop the difference of opinion would be to go down the Mojo route with their (admittedly excellent) themed CDs where they concentrate on one genre or artist. However you don't often get the unexpected and pleasant surprise of discovering something completely new as you do on The Word CDs.
I'd like to say
The Word is the only magazine I have ever subscribed to and is now the only one I purchased... Yes Mojo was dumped after Phil Alexander took over, Uncut dumped over a single album review [ petulant maybe] and the others I've slightly slipped over the age demographic horizon.
I like it's breadth of subject matter ... I like the writing [ on the whole] ... it lacks a barrage of aspirational adverts... and it feels like a small family of like minded people.
Yes it is slightly stuck in it's ways but I generally feel it's an honest Mag which for an extreme cynic as myself is quite an achievemnt.
As for the cover CD ... It's head and shoulders above other offerings...the Packaging is a Joy and although I don't often listen to it ( i'm very rarely near a cd player these days it seems) I do keep them for future reference.
A couple of unsigned tracks a month would be great.
I've subscribed for years
and will carry on regardless of whether there is a free CD because of the quality of the writing. I have bought loads of CDs on the strength of hearing a track on the Word CD. If I have a small gripe it is that in a number of cases the featured track was far and away the best one but it's a chance I'm willing to take and with Spotify it's likely to happen less often in the future.
I love them
and have bought stuff as a result of listening to them, so the artists have benefited from that. It works for everyone.
But one thing - when Mr Hepworth says the CDs cost Word £250,000 a year, doesn't he mean it costs us, the readers? Wouldn't the cover price come down significantly if there was no CD?
About 59p
based on circulation of 35,000 which Mr H announced when he gave us the afternoon off http://www.wordmagazine.co.uk/content/celebrate-the-word-announces-a-cir....
I would suggest that readers would probably put a higher value than that on the CD and if Word can reduce the cost by ensuring that those who get value out of it contribute appropriately then good for them. That's business as they say.
Without the CD's...
... I'd imagine sales would fall (others have CD's so The Word has to, too) so the magazine becomes less able to survive and may need to increase the cover price to help recover from the loss of sales.
Whenever a new issue of the magazine arrives, the CD get's put on the PC & tranferred to the iPod.
When I hear something from an artist that appeals to me, I go straight to Amazon and find what I can - and on it goes to my wishlist.
It's opened my eyes, ears & brain to some wonderful music - and I, for one, would miss it.
CD's
Though the quality of the magazine can fluctuate quite a bit from month to month I think the cd's are of a very high quality. As for buying albums by bands on there, since hearing 'The Duke and the King' last month i've downloaded their ep, ordered their album and am going to see them play tonight. None of this would have happened without the cover cd. The artwork and design are excellent too.
totally agree
I've got into 'The Duke and the King', The Felice Brothers and Cara Dillon as a result of the wonderful Word CD. Have seen the first and last artistes and will being the Felice Bros in October.
Just my tuppence...
I love the magazine, and the CD.
the CDs have cost me a lot of money over the years! there's always a couple of nuggets to treasure and more to explore.
I rarely like all of it, but that's absolutely fine. the world would be a far more boring place if we all liked the same thing. and anyway, I don't think my wallet could stand the strain.
Cover CDs
The word cds have been the main way I get a taste of the music of new or unknown (to me) artists over several years. They all go on the ipod as soon as I receive them. Of course the music is not all to my taste, but I have bought/downloaded countless albums as a direct result of a first encounter on the cd. Just keep doing what you're doing!
I like the latest ones.
I've found that I've been 'keeping' more of the songs on recent CDs. In fact I almost considered adding a blog entry to say as much.
My process is to audition the CD in the car and to rip only those songs I like (and often go off to by more from those artists). I'm quite happy if only one or two songs pass the audition on any given CD. We all know you have to do a lot of panning to get the gold - this is what listening to Peel was like.
Lately, though, I've been a bit worried that my spirit has been growing generous as more than half the songs have been 'called back' from the audition - Cowell would never approve.
Please don't stop the CDs as I don't have 6music in my car.
Churlish
I find it particularly churlish for a first-time writer (quelle surprise, hmmmm) to barrel into the room with some staggeringly trumped-up charges, vent considerable spleen and then slink away surreptitiously. Possibly they're some mogul's lackey with an axe to grind on the sposnor's behalf, or merely a barely-talented arriviste artiste who's still waiting to become King Lear Jet, but the splenetic babbling was a) uncharitable and accusatory and b) bleeding dull.
I like the CDs and estimate I have bought at least 30 full-priced albums off the back of the quantifiably cheap publicity handed to acts and their labels. That's not incosiderable when factored across a readership of 35,000, I'd aver.
Companies don't appear to mind shelling out the shekels for ads in magazines and newspapers, thus why should they not do the same to have their songs included on a CD? I'd argue they're way more likely to shift units when people can hear the product, as opposed to reading a few out-of-context quotes hastily chiselled out of a 500-word review. As someone who works in the media, I'm well aware of the attendant pressures we're all working under - about the same as those crushing a submarine's shell in some cavernous ocean trench - and I think Word does a bang-up job. More power to you. Now, about that Redskins retrospective...
Brilliant, including the rather saucier than normal cover pic
This month's is best for quite some time. I am currently in a quandary: will I go for the Tony Allen album risking that the track on this month NHT is one good one on the album?
Also I want more not less CD's including Now HORA This, a collection of rock anecdotes whose voracity is impossible to evaluate.
Now, there's something...
... I can take issue with. Some of the recent covers have been *too* saucy. The missus is starting to look askance.
See this is how it should work
1) Now hear this, review etc.
2) Myspace, Spotify, Last FM, Youtube
3) Purchase, Gig, T-shirt
4) Word Blog Rant
It's the new chain of command :)
Secret Agent
I bought the Tony Allen album the day before this month's Word arrived (downloaded from emusic) and personally I'd say that if you like "Secret Agent" then you'll like the rest, it's definitely not the best track on there.
To answer the question...
...Anyone feel that the musical quality of the Now Hear This CDs has declined recently?
No, I don't. I thought the last one was the best so far, mainly because (to paraphrase) it's not the ones you play that make a compilation, it's the ones you don't skip.
Now, when playing a track from them on the radio, should one back announce them by pointing people at the artist, the magazine, spotify, or all three?
I like it
I don't think I've ever liked every track but I've bought lots of CDs having originally hear tracks on NHT. As I've said before, I like having the opportunity to hear new things even if I don't like them. It is like a monthly get together with a music obsessed mate who insists you listen to things, some of which you love, some of which you won't bother with. Long may it reign.
Personally I could live without the quarterly non-article about the Beatles, though clearly since they apparently invented evrything which is good about popular culture I am probably in the minority here.
a few comments
I like the cd and regard it as part of the total value of the offering
It would be foolish to not have it -you will not encourage new readers even if your existing loyal band stick fat
bootspinnney's contribution is no doubt self serving but let's not circle the wagons yet again when criticism appears. It is an interesting issue that would probably have remained "a management issue" if not vented in this forum
Any CD...
featuring Cornershop is worth its weight in gold.
handbags at dawn
I’d like to firstly point out that we do not ask record companies to pay the mechanical royalties, you obviously haven’t been doing your homework Bootsspinney. What IS happening, however, is this….
As you all should be aware, Development Hell is a small independent publisher who operates from a broom cupboard in darkest Islington. There is no expensive canteen and each staff member catches his or her own lunch. We have no major corporate backing, unlike the vast majority of our publishing brethren, and The Word itself is not particularly profitable – it really is a labour of love and we keep producing the magazine because we love doing it.
The so-called ‘credit crunch’ is affecting EVERYONE, and it has inevitably wormed its way to us. Producing covermount CDs to go with each issue of The Word and our sister magazine Mixmag is a very expensive task, and at the core of this is MCPS costs, which are, quite frankly, crippling.
Every single track that goes on each CD is hand-picked by myself, David Hepworth and Andrew Harrison, and we only include tracks that we genuinely carry a torch for. Many have tried to buy their way onto the CD but our response is always simple; we don’t take bribes and if we don’t like it, it ain’t going on.
We had to make a decision a few weeks ago, because as things were going, we simply wouldn’t have been able to afford to keep putting together the Now Hear This! compilations for much longer, and by proxy lose perhaps our most powerful medium for promoting great new music. As I’ve said above, MCPS costs were absolutely crippling us, coming to thousands of pounds every month, and the only option we saw, short of canning the CD altogether, was to start asking artists who made the final cut to consent to waiver, or pay a contribution towards, mechanical royalties on the covermount inclusion. This is, in effect, a completely gratis use of the track, with absolutely no cost involved to the artist or record label. Granted, they do not receive mechanical royalties for being included on the CD, but they certainly don’t have to pay anything and we feel the promotion that inclusion on the CD grants far outweighs the mechanical waivering.
This option, as we see it, is mutually beneficial to all parties. From our perspective, it allows us to keep putting out the Word CD with every issue, giving our readers added value for their purchase and introducing them to what we feel are the finest artists around. From a record label’s perspective, and this includes you, dear Bootsspinney, the CD opens the floodgates to access a market who love, absolutely love, their music and – crucially for the record-producing industry – have the money to spend on indulging this love. It has been well documented that the Word CD is a powerful tool for selling the records of the artists that appear on it, and we believe that this is a hallmark of the quality of material that goes on the CD every month. If you don’t like what we put on there then fair enough, but I’m sure the vast majority of our readers would be inclined to disagree with this perceived drop in quality, else they wouldn’t still be with us.
We do, however, understand that record labels are under as much pressure as we are in the current economic climate and that the contribution we ask for as an option can seem like a lot of money, although we uphold our belief that the promotional value of being on the CD provides excellent value and justifies any contribution made in this respect.
So, in summary, we still believe that we put together the finest covermount CDs on the market, and record labels and artists are still not obliged to pay anything to be included on the CD. What’s not to like?
The WORD Covermount Cds...
... are a great addition to the magazine.
(I seem to say this every month!).
Keep up the good work.
What's to stop The Word
Doing this :
1)Stop the CD for subscribers
2)Zip the CD content & post it here for download
3)Print a security key on the subs' letter to enable access to the file
Not sure how many subs you have (& how many you'd lose doing this - not me), and you'd probably need a dedicated server, but it sounds like a lot fewer CD's to burn, package & shift - altogether leaner & greener.
they should just put it on Spotify
Ha Ha!
I was about to suggest
the very same. You, sir, are a genius!
Nice idea
But generally speaking we get the tracks for CD only - licensing individual tracks for any kind of digital download is more problematic, and it opens you up to other MCPS-related costs. And in the end, it's not the CDs for subscribers that are the issue - it's the payment we have to make for tracks included with magazines that remain unsold. Remember, we have to put two copies of the magazine in the shops to sell one copy - and that's another reason why subscription is so important.
CD only not download license
God's teeth, no wonder the music industry is in trouble. As if the tracks on the CD are not on the interwebs within hours... (well I assume they are, never checked, but they could be).
Oh, go on then
Sod the newsagents. I subscribed this very day.
Woohoo
Thanks very much.
*puts kettle on for celebratory cup of tea*
hold the pot
this "we have to put two on the shelf to sell one" thing.
Do you reduce the retail circulation by two copies every time someone subscribes? No, you don't. You keep them out there and hope someone new picks them up. If they don't, the unsolds are returned and you throw them away.
Sorry, hobbyhorse. The terrible wastage in magazine distribution is something you rarely read about in, well, magazines.
It *is* a terrible waste.
It's a sad fact of the business we operate in, and we've highlighted it before on the subscription pages in the magazine. It's yet another reason we much prefer people to subscribe, and why we keep rattling on about it so much. As for the numbers put in the shops, it's continually being tweaked to try and maximise sales and minimise waste, but doing it in the way you suggest is beyond the capabilities of any distributor, I would imagine.
Annually, then
1000 new subscribers, 2000 fewer via the distributor?
You don't cut the store copies if you want to increase circulation. How else would you introduce Word to new readers? So one might even say that every new subscription copy is one EXTRA magazine and CD printed and delivered... if one was feeling mean.
Reducing numbers
All I can say is that we try very hard to minimise the waste, by shifting distribution away from outlets where the mathematics don't make sense towards the ones that do, and yes, reducing the overall numbers in the shops if we think we can 'target' prospective readers more accurately - after all, every unsold copy has a cost attached. As for attracting new readers, one of the reasons we have the website, the podcast, the newsletter etc is so that we're not completely reliant on stuffing the shelves.
Hands up
if your knowledge of Word went from this website to full subscription without a couple of months of spotting one in Tesco and bunging it in the trolley.
Anyone?
Me
But I'm more of a Waitrose kinda guy.
Obviously the hairdressing
Obviously the hairdressing empire means you are making a fair few quid to be fraternising Waitrose for your magazines perusal, Bazza
Is it ever available in Waitrose?
I don't think so, indeed, they don't even seem to stock "the competition" (U and M) but Q seems to get a place. I would say this is a trick missed, as I often pick up odd mags in Waitrose, when shopping, food and travel mainly.
How about sending your returns
to a few different University each month for free distribution in the unions?
that way you can maybe get more exposure and more future sales?
bet there's some rule against that though.
Sending returns
I teach journalism at a university, with the occasional help of the wonderful Mr Du Noyer, and will gladly take any returns/ off cuts/ co-operation/ on site podcast recordings that you might want to offer. For free of course - the Tories, with their cuts, are headed for HE.
Good idea
I'll find out
Another downside of the download route
I rip my CD into iTunes as soon as the tracklisting is accessible. I use lossless encoding so I for one would not be happy to swap that for a 190 Kbps version and of course lossless would lead to higher data overheads on your servers.
I must have very poor critical faculties - I don't think I have disliked more than half a dozen tracks in three years of subscription.
I like The Word
but I'm not bothered about the CD ( I haven't actually listened to the last four or five ). If it makes others happy though, why stop it?
Simple Maths
if The Word sells 35000, and 15000 of those listen to the CD and decide to buy/download one album from the featured tracks, and assuming that this is evenly split across all 15 tracks, then that will generate 1000 extra sales for each artist featured on the CD.
Now, I don't know how many CDs people sell these days, but I'm guessing that to sell 3000 copies of an album would be quite respectable for most of the artists NHT features. So licencing one track for free to generate 25% extra sales would be, to quote a horrible management phrase, a "no-brainer" for most if not all of them
and of course
by buying the album you will, in effect be buying the song on the Now Hear This cd in the first place. Thus now owning 2 copies. So they sell the same song twice.
I'm indifferent to the CD but love the magazine
I probably play 1 in 3 of the CD covermounts.
I buy the magazine for the articles and interviews and to be honest rarely read many reviews.
If I like the sound of an artist I am unfamiliar with from an article and they happen to be on the CD I might play it, but I am more likely to use Spotify.
Dear Word
I take back what I said in an earlier post re. subscribing, as, innocent as I was back then, I assumed that giving a bit of well-targeted publicity to unknowns cost you little. Now, realising that you actually have to pay said unknowns for the privilege of bringing them before a fairly large segment of the public still willing to pay for the music they listen to, the scales have fallen from my eyes.
I hope you continue with the CDs, against all conventional business logic, but even if not I'll continue as a subscriber because the magazine is still rather good. (Careful with the Beatles covers however.)
I like the CDs
Sometimes it takes a while to get around to listening to them, but they are a Good Thing.
And I second the point above - this readership is a pretty good target market for bands as many/most of us still buy records and CDs unlike most of the populace.
It is not uncommon for producers of CDs (including record companies) to ask for a waiver of mechanical royalties - from my own experience New Rose were doing it in 1985, when indie records were living high on the hog, and have done it again recently for some of their re-issues. And it wasn't an "ask" the second time, it was just done.
Away with you Bootspinney the breadhead.
The CD's are, like the magazine,podcast and blog, superb. I buy more music now than I ever did as a vinyl hungry teenager, and I am HEAVILY influenced by reading the opinions of people I have grown up reading and respecting. Through Smash Hits, NME, Q etc Mark Ellen, David Hepworth, Paul Du Noyer et al have informed me as to where to invest my hard earned, as they do now.
If you are so passionate about your music, if you are willing to get involved in a sensible discussion on the above, why not put your head above the parapet and print your name. Or are you just stirring the brown stuff, to suit an alterior motive.
M Howell (Real name)
Why can't people just be *nice*?
It's what is wrong with this country - some people seem to want to grind down anyone and anything for either no good reason, or because they (or their bosses) think they should. Here are some facts for the original poster:
1) The people who write and produce Word *clearly* do it because they love the subject, I might not agre with everything they say, but I love their passion
2) I don't mind reading an article about The Beatles, they were good. People who moan about "yet another Beatles article " are just trying to make a contrary point - rather akin to the "I'm SO weird me" school of 'zaniness'...
3) This month's cover CD sustained me from London to Bath in the car both directions today. I loved about 70% of it - and am going to seek out the bands - but ALSO sparked pause for thought, as I realised the 80's really *are* coming back
4) I susbscribed from early on and I can't see I'll *ever* stop (ever after my own personal Wire-gate, when Heppo gave away a key plot twist, and responded to a subsequent email in an offhand way that irritated me)
5) Its funny, entertaining and informative, and currently shafts all the other music mags out there, well done David, Andrew, Mark, Fraser et al. Don't let the bastards get you down, loving yer work...
and finally 6) Does *anyone* actually feel sorry for record companies, they screwed us over for years and deserve 100% of what has happened to them for not treating their customers with respect, courtesy or (to round out the post) just being *nice*...
They probably won't get this far down the thread (I've been away) but still I've said my piece...
2 - nah
- I'm not particularly weird or zany, I just don't care for a lot of The Beatles' music, personally, and it's been a long time since I read anything about them that interested, amused or surprised me. Is there anything still to be said about them?
Beatles
I know what you mean about Beatles contrarians. The thing is, the significant event of the upcoming remastered CD releases are a perfectly valid reason to feature them (I agree with Andrew Harrison's assessment that this effectively marks the closing of the canon), whereas other magazines who shall remain nameless put them on the cover for the most tenuous of reasons.
true - i guess
the remasters are a more valid reason than a list of dead rockstars and a new book coming out.
Who are these magazines that put them on the cover for 'the most tenuous of reasons'?
Mags
U, M & Q I find.
Here goes with some
Here goes with some straightforward, but heartfelt, flattery. The CD is always good and sometimes, as is the case this month, downright bloody marvellous.
I would probably buy the magazine without the CD, (although I may have not subscribed) but the total package as it comes makes The Word the most VFM purchase I make any and every month.
The only complaint I have is that "damn has another month flown by" thought I get when it arrives through my letterbox. But this is replaced quickly by the joy of getting the thing in my hand.
FYI, a quick internal audit shows I purchase on average 1.8 (approximately!) CD's recommended on Now Hear This every month, and a couple more based on what I read inside, which of course I may not have read if the CD did not make The Word essential.
Great work and keep it up everyone.
In (slight) defence of the OP
While the OP certainly appears to be trolling, I do remember a diary post from James Grant (an artist I personally rate highly and who in many respects is a classic for the Word demographic)complaining on his website that it cost around £6000 to get one of his songs on an unnamed magazine cover CD. I've no idea whether this was a marketing cost that the magazine charged or whether he was estimating the lost royalties through giving them a free track. I've also no idea whether the magazine in question was the Word or one of its rivals. My (somewhat longwinded) point is that I can understand that some songwriters might feel aggrieved that in good economic times, magazines can effectively sell space on their CDs, while in worse times they can demand that artists forego their royalties to ensure inclusion. Either way the songwriter pays.
As i suggested in an earlier post, the extra sales generated should benefit most artists, but I can understand the point made (indeed Mr H makes the same point in the current issue of the Word, about how the next generation "expects" music to be free.)
Love & Money
Yes, I'm a bit of a James Grant fan as well (disclaimer - neither I nor, as far as I know, The Amorous Hum are acting on behalf of the bequiffed erstwhile Love & Money frontman!).
I didn't read the specific quote to which you refer, but I seem to remember his blog was quite illuminating on the realities of earning a crust outwith the mainstream. Another Glasgow rocker Justin Currie has talked in a similarly honest fashion about starting his solo career, although presumably slightly more comfortable due to reasonable Del Amitri royalties.
It's the old 'home taping is killing music' argument
It didn't wash with me then and doesn't now. 70% of the music on the cds never receives radio airplay (made up statistic - but you get my drift) and these artists benefit from the exposure of their music to people who have a genuine interest. I still have every cd ever included with Word and have bought a great many albums of artists who have featured on them over the years. I would not have done this had I not heard them on these cds.
I have also introduced friends to stuff and they their friends - it's exponential!
I don't necessarily disagree
But I can understand why some less commercially successful artists might take this view. That's why I always legally obtain music from artists/bands I like on the Word CD while I would have fewer moral issues about illegally downloading a Bruce Springsteen album.
(not that I am condoning the illegal downloading of Bruce Springsteen albums, of course, or indeed suggesting that the past performance of Bruce Springsteen albums is a guide to the future. Your home may be at risk if you fail to declare to any illegal Bruce Springsteen downloads.)
Dan Maskell writes
Au Revoir Simone, The Broken Family Band, Camera Obscura, El Perro Del Mar, The Go! Team, Isobel Campbell & Mark Lanegan, Joanna Newsom, Jolie Holland, Karine Polwart, Laura Veirs, Tilly And The Wall, Willie Nile
All of these and more I have heard on the Now here this CDs and have gone on to buy albums by them.
More power to you- I SAY!
I don't know about credit crunch...
but my cover CD's have been suffering from postal crunch. The discs themselves have survived but the last few have arrived with covers with dog-eared corners.
I'd be very unhappy if the discs were damaged. I don't listen to every one, but a few artists have benefitted from me buying CD's through tracks I've heard on the cover disc that I'd never otherwise have heard.
Lordy, don't drop the CD!
I can't begin to tell you how much new music I've found thanks to the Now Hear This CDs. There's always something I like each month, and 9 times out of 10 that'll result in a purchase of some kind, if not a whole album then usually a few tracks from iTunes. It's one of the reasons I'll need a new Mac soon; I've clogged up the hard drive with so much good stuff.
Presumably the unsold mags/CDs go into some sort of backlist archive? So they should earn their keep eventually. Or do the likes of WH Smith pulp unsold mags? I work in publishing and it's not unknown for certain retailers to pulp unsold books... (sigh) such a waste...
Do publishers always want unsold stock back?
I've no great love for some book retailers but aren't they sometimes advised by publishers not to physically return unsold titles which fall within returns guidelines? That's if the practise of "returns" still exists in the book trade nowadays, of course. If they're bought firm sale then it's down to the retailer, who has to make the same hard-headed decision that publishers themselves come to when considering unsold stock and the costs and logistics of storing it.
I'd be very surprised if the Word does get unsold back issues returned to them, given the lack of any ads for back issues, the aforementioned costs of storage and the sheer physical difficulty of storage for a small central-London-based company.
On the subject of the Word CD itself, I'm a fairly low-volume music buyer at the best of times, but the CD has several times made me aware of artists who wouldn't otherwise have registered on my radar, and then prompted a purchase or recommendation to someone else.
The distributor pulps the 50%
that don't get sold, having transported them across the country and back again. Across all magazines that's millions of copies a year.
Taking the high ground on environmental issues is a dangerous perch for any magazine. As is sniping at food manufacturers for excessive packaging for example - not that I'm accusing Word of doing that.
On the subject of back issues, I see I was wrong
as they are available on this very website.
Made a point
of listening to the CD this month. Didn't like anything on it.
( Hell, maybe I just don't like pop music any more ).
Good mag though, especially the Ian Hunter piece.
A subscriber on subscriptions
Frazer, I take your points above and I know you'd take the digital route if left to your own devices. So, it's the record companies' fault that you have to carry on slapping very expensively produced CD's onto mags, only for half of them to be unsold & half of those on the sold ones not to be listened to, in an age when we can go somewhere like here or iTunes etc & get the tunes if we want them at a much lower cost to the environment. As someone above said, surely the recotd companies aren't so blind that they don't know every single (already handsomely paid for) track is going to be available digitally on some torrent or other the hour the mag is in the shops?
So, if you're duty bound to carry on with the cover mounts and therefore understandably keen to get everyone to subscribe, why not do what a lot of mags do & offer a 3-month & 6-month sub? I know £42 a year doesn't sound like much but it is when it's a choice between a magazine and a new pair of shoes for your child. OK, your target audience is 50 Pound Guy, but there's a greater potential readership consisting of wannabe FPG's who are impecunious - especially right now - and a more manageable subscription fee would be more likely to bring them in. You could keep the free CD for the full year sub as an incentive.
Short Subs
We do offer three and six-month subs fairly regularly - it's all part of our highly scientific plan to try lots of different things to figure out which approaches work best.
I think a podcast on the economics of running a mag
with a simple conclusion that demonstrates why subscriptions work for you, work for the reader and deprive Tesco's of a few shillings and landfill of a chunk of paper would help.
Everyone who listens and is in a financial position to subscribe surely would?
I only subscribed because it was a bit cheaper and meant I got the mag when it came out. If I'd known that it made a big difference to how the mag runs then I would have done it earlier.
Heh
We've tried to get Jerry on the podcast to do exactly this, but I think he's a little mic-shy.
Tell him its his duty
Jerry's a lovely fella
He's been very helpful when my sub copies have gone missing (we had a Viz-style light fingered postman for a while). No job too small, etc. I bet he's got a voice like treacle, too.
Light fingered postman
Do you live in London N8, by any chance?
Jerry must speak!
As ever - Leeds United aside - I find myself agreeing with Lee. Getting Jerry onto the podcast is an excellent idea. I had no idea how complicated running a magazine was.
I'll ask him again,
Emphasising the "popular demand" bit.
and I reckon it will be a really interesting podcast
to boot.
For What Its Worth
I listen to every CD.
Some I like, some I dont.
The ones I like I try to find some more of the same artiste wherever.
If I still like, I buy The CD.
Easy.
Between Word and Uncut I have discovered, and bought, amongst others:
Band Of Horses/ Sparklehorse/ Joan as A Policewoman/ Calexico/ Teddy Thompson/ William Orbit etc etc.
Stuff I would not otherwise have been exposed to.
Whats the problem?
There is no problem
The word Cds are just fine, only bought 2 of the albums featured last month but that's my problem
Looking forward to the new issue and at least this post has reminded me to renew my subscription.
exactly!
EXACTLY!
Keep the cd's coming
They are never indispensable but are always welcome and usually have several tunes that make it onto the old IPOD and more than enough to make me go out and purchase the albums from which they are taken.
By the way can I just say that when I renewed my subscription a couple of months back I took advantage of the offer of the free Delta Spirit cd and it is bloody marvellous - I am really surprised that more hasnt been said about it.
If I was The Editor of The Word
I'd be mightily offended by the inference of Bootsspinney's post, particularly the quantum leap of an accusation that the magazine is somehow getting something for nothing by providing the cover CD and that in doing so it is somehow advocating the idea that music should be downloaded for free. What a supremely short-sighted and illogical interpretation of the purpose of the cover CD. It's there to promote quality music and to encourage readers to invest in music which the magazine believes to be meritorious.
OK, the CD IS also there to lure someone to buy the magazine and so there is the argument - on that basis alone - that the magazine is getting a kickback from its "promotional" CD but as Fraser has outlined there are financial risks and losses attached to that approach which the magazine has to bear. Therefore if The Word is asking record companies to either waive or contribute to mechanical royalties it would seem that the magazine has plenty of hard evidence to show why it needs to minimise its own financial exposure by providing the cover CD when magazines are not sold. Besides when all is said and done The Word has to make money for the company that owns it otherwise it disappears from the shelves. Fortunately based upon recent investments Development Hell Ltd appears to be doing well as a company.
Ultimately everyone - magazine, record company, songwriter and consumer - benefits from what seems to be a business model (that includes compromises as all business models must if they are to succeed in the "real world") that sustains everyone's interests through practical, pragmatic and - most importantly - sustainable support and promotion of music per se. Music is having to compete more and more for the attention of successive generations of consumers and to attack one vital cog in the wheel of pitching music to the masses - a cog that is trying to keep focus on good music by emphasising the belief that its value transcends merely the transaction - is just stupid, particularly from someone who it would appear works in music publishing themselves.
The Word editorial slant is to encourage its readership to value the music and the artists who make it despite the ongoing fluctuations in how music gets from the artist to the consumer. The Word may trumpet "free music" enterprises such as Spotify but that is primarily an extension of its ongoing assessment of the ways and means by which consumers can access music through new media and technologies. It would be doing its readers a disservice if it didn't contextualise music beyond the predominant mythologising approach that dominates the agenda of peer magazines such as Mojo and Uncut. I'm not knocking those magazines but The Word is different in the way it approaches music with a far healthier and open-minded approach which encourages debate and isn't afraid of recommending something that is not in the comfort zone of the average reader.
Indeed when compared to Mojo et al The Word is on many levels NOT a music magazine: the name says it all really. It is the print equivalent of those great wide-ranging conversations you have down the pub with old and new acquaintances where everyone without exception has something interesting to say and which ultimately leaves you wanting to know more by going off and buying the book, the DVD or - critically in the context of this discussion - the album. In my mind The Word represents the best printed context in which to discover recommendations precisely because it positions the reader as a valued contributor to the conversation that the magazine stimulates.
Finally if The Word was somehow aligning itself with the "free download" brigade- as bootsspinney implies - then why use yesterday's technology with something so old-hat as a CD? Why have a download store on the website which charges for downloads?
Sorry for the rambling nature of the post but I'm just amazed that someone who apparently works in the music business could write a blinkered post that can't see the woods for the trees.
Agreed its
a very shortsighted post for an industry mover, but I think it sums up the media wide panic about how, in the future, they're going to get money for anything. At the moment, they're thrashing around, grasping for any cash they can, whether it's sensible or not.
There was some interesting stuff on this on the father's day podcast recently. I think much stems from the rise of mp3 and torrenting / file sharing because, as Mark Ellen pointed out, there's a whole generation from around 20 downwards, who have the blithe assumption that music is / should be free and that cds are far too expensive. I broadly exclude the Wordistas because we seem to be of a different age / demographic and still, for the most part, want the physical cd and will pay for it, and feel that's only right anyway - though if I could give all the money to the artist and none of it to the record company and the record shop, I'd be infinitely happier, and the same with books.
From the mp3 making music free, we've gone to free papers and the newspaper industry putting their stories online, then wondering why nobody actually buys the physical product. Pirate dvds / torrenting have changed the relationship with film and dvd, to the point at which we're all starting to feel we should get all our media for free - music, film, news, TV via iplayer etc. Only when we are confronted by something physically in front of our eyes - football match, gig - does it seem fair enough to pay.
It's a big shift, I don't know where it's taking us, I suspect there's no road back, but if you make your living in the media, I'm not surprised if there's a trace of panic in your head. There is in mine.