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(not) tickled (by) pink (Floyd)
Dearest Word Massive,
I am working from home in horrible High Wycombe today as i appear to have caught swine flu. I made a den in the garden on Sunday night and camped out in it with my fellow reprobates, and it's come back to haunt me.
Anyway, the point of this is that I'm sat in my room, wearing a dressing gown (AND a sleeping bag), and listening to Pink Floyd. I received a Floyd book for Christmas which I finally got round to reading recently and really rather enjoyed (I've just re-read this sentence and the use of alliteration is pretty stunning/over the top/purple <--- delete as applicable). Granted, it never dug as deep as the Moon or Strummer biogs, but it gave me a good insight and greater understanding of a band which has never really tickled my pickle. So, I felt inclined to investigate their sonic meanderings and REALLY try to get into these four grumpy Cantabrigians' catalogue.
I managed to grab a copy of Dark Side of the Moon and gently eased it into my stereo with trembling, sweaty hands. Was this the record that was going to change every perspective I ever had, on everything?
Sorry to disappoint, but no. Utter muck. The sonic equivalent of finding a pack of your favourite biscuits in the cupboard only to bite into one and discover they're a bit stale. Gentle disappointment. Not even enough to invoke real disappointment. Recording a toaster for 30 minutes does not good prog make.
Have I done something wrong? There's got to be a way in. Please help.
Yours faithfully
Magic Alex
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You are Nathan Barley and I claim my £10!
No? My mistake.
Anyway, the Floyd. If you don't like them then don't listen to them I'd say. Nothing I've ever heard of them has made me want to go and investigate further, so I don't - simple. Don't think that just because they're PINK FLOYD (although this applies to every band) and you're a music fan then you should inherently love them.
I've got to say I agree
It all sounds a bit Ford Mondeo/ Dire Straits to me - especially Money, a truly horrible song. A Great Gig In The Sky is like some sort of improv workshop visited by Yoko Ono.
Breathe is beautiful though.
The only record which made me physically sick...
...was Brain Damage. Four times on the trot. I was smoking something I shouldn't though, back in the day. It wasn't a good evening.
I never could stand them, especially DSOTM. However hearing it recently for the first time in twenty years it seems to me that the old Side One stood up quite well : not as overblown as I remembered, certainly not compared to some of the more recent pretenders. Breathe was rather lovely and Great Gig In The Sky was attractively bonkers, standing out against their tendency to mewl. However Side Two still blows, especially Money. At least Brain Damage doesn't actually make me hurl any more.
Still, it isn't The Wall. I have a special circle of hell reserved for that. And Hotel California.
Home work and eggy bread
Will be marking your homework tomorrow and an essay on why DSOTM is not for you, may get you an 'F'
...now get back to work
jumpers for goalposts
yes sir, sorry sir. I don't think the new boy Waters likes me sir, he sounds angry. And a bit out of tune (meeeow!) I tried to get on with him sir! I tried!
on the other hand
wish you were here still scrubs up pretty well IMO
And i can still hack meddle
Try some of the earlier, Syd-era stuff?
Piper At The Gates Of Dawn is a good start.
If you don't like DSOTM, you probably won't like any of the later, post DSOTM stuff (Wish You Were Here, Animals, The Wall)as it's broadly similar to a greater or lesser extent.
You might want to try Meddle - the track 'Echoes' is generally quoted as the definitive Floyd piece but, to be honest, based on your comments, you probably won't like it :-)
If you've tried Piper, Echoes and DSOTM and didn't like any of them then I guess it's fair to say you don't like the Floyd. All credit for trying though. Too many people are willing to form a judgement based on recieved opinion.
It is a masterpiece
...by any measure, but it may not be for you. Takes all sorts. But if you seriously want to know what all the fuss is about, give it a few listens, leave it a bit, try through headphones, under the influence, etc. It is not a pop record with cheesy predictable immediately memorable choruses. Its brilliance is pretty evident to me but often the albums you love for longest don't immediately grab you.
And WYWH and Meddle are also excellent.
'A Collection of Great Dance Songs'
Isn't that the way in? And available to download for £4.44 on Amazon surely worth a punt
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Collection-Great-Dance-Songs/dp/B001IQR7P6/ref=s...
Small doses...
...of long songs. Atom Heart Mother, Echoes and Shine On. That'll do me.
Dark Side is like Sergeant Pepper, a chocolate souffle on the menu, instant whip in the mouth
I blame Jeremy Clarkson
I know he's a big Pink Floyd fan, and this association sort of put me off. It's not him per se that's the problem. It's the stereotypical image of the Pink Floyd fan.
Well, after seeing Rory McGrath priase it on Never Seen Star Wars I thought i'd give it a go...
And I'm rather glad I did. It wasn't what I'd expected - and was quite startled by much of it. I'm not saying I find it a work of god-like genius - but it's a record I'm pleased to own.
Toaster.
It's the swine flu, not DSOTM. You are listening to the wrong album. You seem to be listening to Alan's Psychedelic Breakfast, which, as eny fule kno, is the lazy bit on Atom Heart Mother, where they ran out of ideas and mucked about while they sent someone out for more skins, and is uter crud of the swinish variety.
Alan's Pyschedelic Breakfast?
Love it. Rice Crispies have always sounded great in stereo. I could listen to them all day.
Swine Pigs
I think Pink Floyd are like Bob Dylan, you either like or hate them, there's little inbetween. It's a cliche, but Dark Side Of The Moon would be in my Top Ten Albums of All Time. Perhaps try listening to it when you are in a better frame of mind and your swine illness has hopefully cleared up as it was just a momentary lapse of illness.
When you get better, Alex
you will find that you like Pink F no better.
I, like you, feel I owe them a certain sort of respect, a due deference. As a result, I have tried to get *it*. Lots. But I don't.
And the reason I disavow Floyd (and utimately, though not totally Radiohead) is for similar reasons that I disavow Iain Banks or Ian McEwan in literature.
It is because it represents a peculiarly English strain of clever dickery, an adolescent preoccupation with trying to be "shocking", and a facile reading of the world.
To wit - guess what - war is bad, institutions can be corrupt, and life can be a bit rubbish sometimes.
They have one song which I do play regularly - "Wish you were here". The rest. It's all very deep, you see.
So "Wish You Were Here" and wish you better.
Thanks, Sheev...
... you are a nice person. Feeling mostly better now, got a curry in last night and napalmed the snotty blighter out of my system.
That does seem to be it though, in regard to Floyd - the sonic manifestation of a bit of grump-on. I feel I understand them better now but that's about the stretch of it. Suppose there's nowt wrong with that, understanding is oil to the machine that is society, etc etc...
... maybe I'm still ill...
From DSOTM onwards, they became grumpier and grumpier
until you get to The Final Cut - the last Waters Floyd album - which is so grumpy as to be positively curmudgeonly.
You're lucky...
you didn't choose "Ummagumma"
Best record to listen to when you're sick?
Todd Rundgren's "Healing"