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colsafc's picture

loads of stuff on here from 'dadrock' lovers (hey, i'm a dad too!) and there's nothing wrong with that - i like oasis, bit of neil young, whatever

butbutbut

come on - let's find out why no-one ever mentions acts which are absolutley 'not rock'

where's the threads about underworld, orbital, unkle (although their last album was ROCk writ large) boards of canada, cinematic orchestra, lamb, caribou, bonobo, theivery co., etc etc etc...

is it...prejudice? blinkers? ignorance? fear?

i love guitar music, but some of my favourite albums are absolutely 'not rock'

it's good to slide out of that comfort zone once in a while...

anyone fancy it?

so, any suggestions of 'not rock' which might convert a few non-believers?

or am i on the wrong site?

(hope not)

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Rather a big subject surely ?

OK, two very obvious suggestions

Definitely not rock : The sides made by Louis Armstrong's Hot Five and Hot Seven in the late 1920s, which should be on the National Health.

Definitely not rock : Igor Stravinsky's "The Rite Of Spring".

On the other hand, both do rock, in so many ways.

I recall musings about Muse in the past...
http://www.wordmagazine.co.uk/content/who-don039t-you-everybody-else-thi...

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Doods | 19 June 2009 - 4:27pm

HUGE SUBJECT INDEED.

Oakenfold - Another World.
Superb piece of DJ nonsense.

Nyman - The Kiss / Water Music part 3.
Never fails to get the adrenaline running.

UNKLE - Edit Music For A Film.
Sample-tastic mate !

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THE LEKK | 19 June 2009 - 4:36pm

Well, now's your chance...

start a specific thread about something 'not rock' and see who joins in :-)

If it's jazz, avant-garde electronic or 20th century classical then you'll possibly pique my interest. If it's 'doof doof dance' then I'll probably pass.

If it's Motown or Sinatra then I'm in, nu-folk (or whatever it's called) and I'm out.

'not rock' is too big a subject heading

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stimpy | 19 June 2009 - 5:07pm

Where's Fuzzyface when you need him ... ?

He'd take up the challenge I'm sure. :-)

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Steven C | 19 June 2009 - 6:31pm

Listening to Lindstrøm & Prins Thomas's album ll

as I type. Does that count?
Downloaded it from emusic & I'm enjoying it very much.
Also enjoying most of the new Paolo Nutini album [yes really and not embarrassed about it]
Other recent albums include Miles Davis 'Kind of Blue' & 'Sketches of Spain'
'Glory Hope Mountain' by The Acorn - DM Stith, Iron & Wine, The Mummers, The Leisure Society, Woodpigeon - none of which are especially 'Rock'

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ChaosandMorphine | 19 June 2009 - 5:27pm

lindstrom et al

agreed.
have picked up their previous collaborative works and found all of them to be of high quality listening, as is lindstroms solo album from last year.
but then given who i saw for at first gig, i would say that.

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ireallylovemusic | 19 June 2009 - 5:31pm

sample it, loop it, rock it.

"If it's jazz, avant-garde electronic or 20th century classical then you'll possibly pique my interest.
If it's 'doof doof dance' then I'll probably pass.
"

i'm in for the count with any of those options.

which reminds me, i need to listen to the 'end titles redux' album by UNKLE on which they stripped their recent songs back and added some orchestrations.

oh, and here's a new bloke making some interesting sample heavy music that takes reference from all over the place :

http://www.paulwhitemusic.co.uk/

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ireallylovemusic | 19 June 2009 - 5:29pm

I don't like this thread

Which threads don't you like?

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Thomas the Rhymer | 19 June 2009 - 6:34pm

jazz and more, daddy-o

I guess that the reason there aren't more threads is few people start them.

There have been some threads on jazz - good starter albums, for one, and jazz does get a mention (from me and some others) when we look at "Perfect Albums".

About 25% of my CDs are jazz, and I'm often in the mood for post-rock (or whatever you want to call it) - in the last week I've listened to :

a lot of Grails, Slint, and Tortoise.

2 Marian McPartland radio shows : with Steely Dan and with Alice Coltrane.

SAHB at the BBC

Slim Harpo (live - Sting It Then!)

The Ramones - It's Alive

Fairport Convention - Liege & Lief

Lots of Jimmy Reed

and all my James King & The Lonewolves records which I ripped from vinyl.

At the moment, as I am reading an excellent book on Colonel Tom Parker, I'm listening to Elvis : The Jungle Room sessions, which is fabulous.

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el hombre malo | 19 June 2009 - 7:02pm

new

My dear old dad left me with a passion for all things Rat Pack. Apart from Sinatra I love Sammy Davis Jr and Dean Martin. Nat King Cole is another smoothie who always goes down well with a nice malt on a Saturday night.
Of the doop doop variety The Go Team an d David Holmes are hard to beat

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paintyface | 19 June 2009 - 7:14pm

my faith...

in 'the word massive' is being restored...

i suppose the examples i gave were electronic/dance, but, hey, 'not rock ( or 'notrock' as i'm calling it now) takes all comers.

so i'm gonna give a few of the names above i haven't heard of a listen...see what floats my boat

thanks for reassuring me that word is not just home to lovers of guitar-based, verse-chorus-verse-chorus-mid8-chorus-yawn stuff.

no more comfort zones...

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colsafc | 19 June 2009 - 8:01pm

Classical-ish stuff

people tend to ignore the contemporary classical-ish side of things in stuff like this.
Nico Muhly!!! (saw him at union chapel in london, was amazing).

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freddieofarrell | 19 June 2009 - 9:28pm

This thread is an excuse for this wee excerpt

You can call it classical, you can call it electronica, whatever. I call it bloody good.


It certainly isn't rock.

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Retropath2 | 20 June 2009 - 2:51pm

I'm mostly

rock, soul, alt, whatever but I do have William Basinski's The Disintegration Loops - which I guess is contemporary Classical - it's good stuff.

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badartdog | 20 June 2009 - 4:15pm
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