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The New Confessions
Posted by Philip Bryer on 8 June 2008 - 4:46pm.
I'll start:
I don't like The Wire.
I feel better already. You have a go.
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Entertainment For Lively Minds
I'll start:
I don't like The Wire.
I feel better already. You have a go.
mine is
I don't 'get' The Mighty Boosh.
Or Vic Reeves.
Or Father Ted.
Boosh
I positively loath The Mighty Boosh. Maybe I'm getting old.
I watched the first episode of The Wire and really didn't like it. Too sweary! Apparently, I'm supposed to stick with it. Dunno if I can be bothered - I've still got to make a start on the complete Sopranos DVD box set that I bought for myself at Christmas. And no, I've not previously watched an episode of that.
In a way
I'm really envious of you. I saw all The Sopranos and I've seen the 1st four seasons of The Wire.
I'd just love to be able to start all over again, coming at each series as a virgin. So much pleasure to come.
And if you send me a tenner, I'll keep quiet about plot developments ;)
Sorry,
but I haven't seen a single minute of "The Wire", and so I feel unable to comment.
Wired
I hired out The Wire, but struggled with the first episode of the first series. Perhaps I should give it another go.
Seasons, not episodes
In The Wire each episode builds on what has gone before, a narrative slowly coheres, multiple plotlines develop and occasionally overlap, characters come into focus, no one's completely likable.
It's intelligent drama that doesn't pander to the expectations of its audience. You can't really dip into the show and come away with an accurate impression of what it's all about.
My confession is that I like Coldplay. The band draw a lot of hate for their social background and the received wisdom that their music is bland. The reality is that they increasingly walk the fine line between experimentalism and popularist stadium rock. It's a daring gambit - you may well end-up failing on both counts - but they want to have their cake and eat it, and good for them.
Subtitles
I recommend watching with subtitles. I recall watching episode one with my wife. She gave up because she couldn't understand what was being said. I watched again with subtitles and never looked back.
Once you get attuned to the Baltimore accent you can watch it without the titles.
I don't get big brother
but millions of British citizens think it's the dogs bollocks. Is it me or is it them?
Its them!
;-)
I haven't even...
...seen 'The Wire'!
I never got 'Little Britain'...friends liked it a lot but I got the feeling even they felt it overstayed its welcome. I always found it smug, self-satisfied and repetitive.
Smug, self-satisfied and repetitive
Yes, yes and yes. Totally agree with that synopsis.
Cheap, Lazy and Spiteful
also apply.
Mysoginistic Lazy Repetitive Claptrap
It's all in the title really.
I've just finished
season 1 of 'The Wire' and I think it may be the new 'best TV series ever made'. Start again all you naysayers and have another go. If you're not addicted by the scene, in about episode 3, in which a murder scene is investigated by two cops only using the word 'fuck' then I feel a liitle sorry for you.
It's really, really good.
And I have no confession. I like Richard Thompson and that's pretty much all that counts around here isn't it?
Wire is great - give it 2
Wire is great - give it 2 shows in a row and it should start feeling like the best TV around.
Confess to also liking Coldplay - whats not to like? And quite like Keane as well.
I don't really like watching telly.....
Corrie and the apprentice about does Mrs Path and I.
Burn me at the stake
I'm not trying to be contrary, Honest. I just Don't get all the Fuss surrounding Richard and Linda Thompson's" I want to see the Bright lights Tonight " Album. Was ok nothing more.
Better phone Salman Rushdie for Advice.
That's the Paul Beard, right?
We know where you live........
Uncontactable
I will be unavailable to answer any mails or calls for the foreseeable future. Anyone know any good hiding places?,Sounds like a Danny Baker catergory. Is this a Folkwah or have i made people slightly cross ? Beware of men bearing Real Ale.
Made me slightly smile, actually
Heretics should be celebrated as seers. One mans sacrilege is another mans sausage.
Modern R&B
why? do? people? listen? to? this? crap?
Because in any given year
one of the best records will always be a “modern R&B” song. Here’s one of this year’s. A remake of an old Bobby Womack song by a member of Destiny’s Child who isn’t Beyonce. A modern song, but with roots stretching back to the late ’50s. The beat goes on . . .
To give us something to rail against?
Why do they call it R'n'b anyway,as the only rhythm I can hear is of the cash till?
It would be like Devendra Banhart labelling his music as folk, fer chrissake!
Here goes
I can't stand The Apprentice.
There, now kill me. I don't understand all the fuss and palaver that the likes of BBC Breakfast News 'not revealing the identity of who was fired in case you missed it last night' and usually quite sane national publications go to the lengths of blogging it 'live'. Isn't it recorded some time in advance anyway?
It's all bollocks.
Just like Big Brother, it's car-crash TV.
While Big Brother ruthlessly manipulates those for whom life has not delivered huge amounts of nouse, at least the Apprentice candidates have all got some brains, and it can be a hoot watching arrogant or naive individuals over-endowed with self-belief crash inexorably into spectacular cock-up territory, possibly for the first time ever in their "careers". I'd agree with your assesment, but sometimes even total balls can be amusing.
Apprentice
I hate The Apprentice. I want to destroy the TV when it comes on. It's lowest common denominator filth. Like Big Brother, only worse. I almost want to appear as a contestant so that I can kick Alan Sugar's teeth in.
Can't stand any of the "reality" shows to be honest
with particular disdain for BB and the Jungle one.
However, I do enjoy The Apprentice. Honestly think it is good, entertaining TV, albeit overhyped.
At least the contestants are doing something, though I'm not comfortable with the recent trend for the losers to attempt to become "celebrities" (that dreadful horse-faced one from last series springs to mind).
As for "The Wire" I agree with other posters that sustained exposure for at least a couple of episodes will win most people over to it's brilliance. I'm following it on FX, so am half way through series 4 and the standard is still extremely high.
I struggled with
Episode one of The Wire.
I also think Gavin and Stacey is a load of old cock.
The Mighty Boosh is embarrassingly bad.
Russell Brand is a shitwizard.
And Spaced is shite too.
I feel much better
On the assumption
that the term "shitwizard" is derogatory, I agree with you whole-heartedly.
ShitWizard
Is an amazing name for a pop group
What about
Crackbracken
Hump-fries
Mercy Eye Biscuit
Brand
Being an easy going type (I like to think) there's not many I don't tolerate but he's one self-regarding puffed up twatty wat I just can't abide seeing or hearing for a moment.
Oh yeah...
...I'm no fan of Brand either. Intensely irritating.
Careful.
There is a Jo for whom I have a soft spot. Be specific. You mean the oddly coiffured gangly bloke one, don't you, as opposed to the oddly coiffured bird?
Imagine not alone here but....
struggle with every tom, dick & harry these days being called a celebrity, in fact it's about time we banned the word.
Right I'm sure I'll be shot down in flames here but can't get along with Miles Davis and alot of Pink Floyd.
My confession is I like certain Girls Aloud records - one of the plus points with an iPod is you can put certain songs away without fear of being found out....unless you own up on one of these threads
On another note The Wire is possibly the best TV series of all time
nothing
wrong with Girls Aloud
nothing
a sound-proofed room can't cope with, anyway.
&
I'll own up to being a minority on here by standing up proud and admitting I live Radiohead :)
Like a bird
On the subject of the Wire. It took me 2 or 3 episodes to get into it but once I did, Oh Boy Oh Boy. One of the finest TV series ever made ! On par with the Sopranos, The Shield, The West Wing, Deadwood. It´s dark ,involved, complex,brilliant, frustrating , just like real life. I ran out and got me season 2 and 3
Never got Seinfeld and I guess I never will.
The Mighty Boosh is pants and so is R.Brand.
Hands off Richard Thopson and his lady (ex) wife.
Agree
Never got Seinfeld either...have tried to watch it but haven't found many laughs
Living in the US, to speak this out loud would be sacrilege, but I just don't get it
Father forgive me for I have sinned
I have disregarded whole swathes of potentially fine music due to my own prejudices, conservatism and sheer laziness.
Never seen The Wire but I like Wire a lot.
sorry did I miss a meeting
.. again. I thought we'd agreed to not give monkeys what other people like or dislike and just get on with enjoying the stuff that appeals to ourselves (once you've given something a fair chance that is).
Ps. this still allows you to take against something because you can sense from the off it'll be bobbins no matter how much hype, chatter and blather it enjoys.
I'm sorry, you're right.
There is nothing wrong with Girls Aloud.
This may surprise some but...
I can't say with certainty that I've ever heard anything by Girls Aloud. My expectation would be that I'd hate them, but hey, I loved a couple of All Saints records, who I imagine aren't so very far from GA.
I would like the following similar offences to be taken into consideration:
The cover star interviews on Word are generally the least interesting pieces in the magazine, certainly the last few, with the exception of Nick Cave.
Having seen a thoughtful interview on BBC4 with Russell Brand, where he talked about his inspirations and influences, I think he's A (Quite) Good Thing.
Mike Leigh, for all that he's made a few great films, is now monstrously overrated, to the extend of being a sacred cow. Career Girls and All Or Nothing are mostly dismal works. His much vaunted working method seems to me to lead to the actors becoming so identified with their characters that they can't see how unlike "real people" they actually are. And I'm not the only one who sees a real contempt for the lower middle classes for whom he purports to have such affection.
You have now
Interesting
theft of almost the entire riff from "My Sharona".
Mike Leigh’s “contempt for the lower middle classes“
is fairly typical of your average Hampstead leftie. The lower orders should know their place and not get ideas above their station. But it’s so terribly amusing when these ghastly people attempt to do so and get it so horribly wrong. Why can’t they remain noble uncultured savages that we can pat on the head and patronise.
It’s hard to think of a more snobbish play/film than Abigail’s Party.
Yesss!!!
It's not just me who thinks his portrayal of 'ordinary people' is so toe-curlingly off-kilter. See also Shameless, Channel 4's lovable chavs. And don't get me started on Eastenders, which continues to win awards.
Confession? I really like George Michael.
Agreed
Shameless is far worse than any of Mike Leigh's - in my mind - lazer-guided demolition jobs. Working class communities aren't all full of feckless criminals and thicko thugs. People had more pride in their class and community than to ponce off their neighbours, a la oh-so-amusing Frank. I blame Jezza Kyle!
I agree
about the acting in Mike Leigh films - it's supposedly more real than standard, scripted performances but to me often seems to end up becoming pretty irritatingly mannered, exaggerated and unreal.
The Sopranos
was a crock too
Facebook
I took one look at it and thought "Hmm, the chance to have my preferences tracked online, never be able to delete my details, to play scrabble with friends and to find out that they're 'really hungover' at the click of a mouse". It never really took off for me.
Will you be my friend, Skirk?
Only joking.
Oh all right then
I saw Bill Hicks in Edinburgh in the early 90's, and thought he was crap. A 2 hour show, I think I laughed about three times. I don't understand the posthumous plaudits..... is he comedy's James Dean?
The Queen
It's not that special a film really apart from Helen Mirren's performance, which is brilliant. I didn't come away from it feeling great sympathy for the Royal Family. Though I always thought the public grieving thing was excessive. The film is quite ordinary and shows us mostly what is already very familiar.
The Wire
I have watched episode one and was instantly annoyed by too much mumbled dialogue. I will persevere but we have approx a backlog of 50 movies/tv series to watch and we dont even like watching "regular" TV. So I 'm not sure if it will be worth the effort.
Why does anyone bother to listen to commercial radio in their cars?
Led Zep records are cack after Led Zep 1.
Richard Thompson needs to drop the beret.
Ry Cooder needs to get back to basics.
Ringo is my favourite surviving Beatle.
Most Prog is still crap.
Bob Dylan, why doesn't he sing like he used to?? Is it a physical problem or a badly calculated affectation??
Curtis Mayfield needs to be elevated to music's best soul singer.
Sooty was Britain's best ever silent comic.
Andy Partridge is a genius.
The Bonzo's in retrospect are not really funny.
Tom Petty's records are generally more fun than Bruce Springsteen's.
Very good
I tend to agree with all of that except the Led Zep one, although I would say that I don't like much of III or IV. Those songs like 'Black Dog' and 'Rock 'n' Roll' are rather dense,stodgy and monotonous - lacking subtlety and light and shade for me. I do really rate 'When The Levee Breaks' and 'Stairway To Heaven' I really still enjoy a lot after all these years and endless exposure. Not that I expect anyone to be bothered.
I always wanted a Scalextric
but was forever thwarted by the man in the Big Red suit.
Having took matters into my own hands last Yuletide and provided my son with "his" set, I have to put the "realistic" car racing set down as massively over rated.
Fair play, then, here goes:
LIKES
Robbie Williams (so sod you all!)
Red Dwarf
Pushing Daisies
Mock The Week
(I also like plenty of stuff that's not so controversial with you lot)
HATES
Coldplay, Radiohead, Sigur Ros.
Celebrities of any stripe.
TV in general
Jeremy Clarkson in particular.
Radio programming
NEVER HEARD/SEEN/READ (and couldn't care)
Sopranos
The Wire
Peter F Hamilton
Richard Thompson
Revolution in the Head
I have a particularly sharp dislike for this becuase I hunted, and hunted, and hunted, for a copy as I had been told repeatedly it was the definitive book on the Beatles. I finally tracked one down. Well....
Its full of everything you never wanted to know about the band. Recording dates etc. He lost me when he canned Across the Universe because it didn't have "a contrasting middle eight" Who could possibly give a toss about that!
It had zero insight just a lot of facts that didn't add up to anything interesting. It should have been called "A Trainspotters Guide to the Beatles."