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My Night With Yes
I'm still trying to get to grips with this passing of time thing. The last (and only) time I saw Yes was in 1983. Steve Howe and Rick Wakeman (again) had left, Trevor Rabin and Tony Kaye were in, Owner Of A Lonely Heart was storming the pop charts, and the 18 year old me thought they were a band struggling to cling onto a career. They were old men. And yet, it was only five years since Tormato, the last album issued by what could be considered to be a classic Yes line-up, and Chris Squire wasn't even middle-aged - he was eight years younger than I am today. I even made a Venn diagram to attempt to make sense of all this, but it doesn't really help.

So what of Yes in 2009, 26 years later?
1) It's possible that Benoit David is actually better at being Jon Anderson than Jon Anderson ever was. His voice is as clear as a bell, and he probably doesn't clutter up the tour bus with magic crystals and incense and astrology charts and stuff. And, despite being Canadian, he resists the temptation to sing "Roundabout" as "Roundaboot".
2) I imagine it's compulsory for anyone fronting Yes to wear some kind of white trouser arrangement.
3) Steve Howe can really play. I mean really play. And he's much better at doing Trevor Rabin than Trevor Rabin was at doing Steve Howe.
4) Fact: long hair is a young man's game. Howe, get it cut. Squire, you look like Annie Nightingale.
5) What really strikes you is the incredible ambition these musicians had as young men. They weren't seasoned jazzers with decade's worth of craft behind them, but a youthful, fairly mainstream rock band. But boy, did they push the envelope.
And they're still very good. While just occasionally they don't sound quite as well rehearsed as they might, and the songs from Drama are a little sucky, "And You And I" is still a towering, uplifting thing of rare beauty, an explosive "Astral Traveller" is trotted out for the first time in nearly four decades, and the build-crescendo-release part of "Starship Trooper" is still as sexy (yes, sexy) as it ever was. There, I said it.
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You drew a Venn diagram?
Take a long, long look in that mirror Fraser...
Only joking - I'm just jealous because I couldn't get to the Birmingham show on Monday. Sounds like a great night out.
EDIT:
thinking about it, didn't Yes tour the 90125 album in 1984 not 83? Either way, neither of us is doing much to reduce the geek/prog stereotype are we?
The 9012Live tour
was 1984
(pushes spectacles back up nose, rearranges pens in shirt pocket)
I stand corrected
Oh dear. I imagine my membership of the prog society will be revoked. It was indeed July 11 1984.
I was there too Fraser...
and it was the only time I've ever seen Yes. I bloody loved it, but their stage clobber was horrible.
With regards the passage of time thang, I am now eight years older than the 32 year old Robert Plant was at Led Zeppelin's last UK gig at Knebworth. Blimey...
Whatever happened to Sparkomatic Car Sound?
Now called Altec Lansing
And still very much around. Trevor Rabin owned the rights to the name, so after he left, they reverted to the founders' own surnames.
make iPod docks,
natch
and, perhaps more singnificantly,
the Voice Of The Theater speaker system. BIG speakers :-)
well some docks are bigger than others ;-)
and indeed some horns, liked the mad collection here
http://hackaday.com/2008/09/23/ipod-loaded-horn-boosts-your-tunes/
and this iPhone number
http://gizmodo.com/5230171/antique-speaker-horn-adds-old+timey-class-to-...
[by the way, what's the simple way to embed a pic-or do I need to copy to flickr first ?]
Generally speaking...
It's best to find a place to host any picture you want to embed yourself, unless the site in question is happy for you use their version. Otherwise you could be accused of using other peoples' bandwidth without paying for it. Many consider this to be bad form.
Anyway, instructions are here: http://www.wordmagazine.co.uk/faq#images
Thanks
Voice Of The Theater
I couldn't find the slot for the iPod anywhere
by the way
does that side of Altec really exist or has all the really heavy duty pro audio like your pic gone now ? --this
http://www.altecpro.com/products/fullrange/index.htm
and this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altec_Lansing
would seem to suggest so
They were still going a few years back (2005 or so)
when they did a limited re-issue of the Voice Of The Theater but I gather the pro-audio business was subsequently sold off to (I think) Electrovoice.
Incidentally, James Lansing eventually moved on from Altec Lansing to found another pro-audio company, JBL. He was a clever man...
bit like Henry Kloss I guess
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Kloss
we owe a lot to the Klosses, Peter Walkers et al. Was sad to see AR had gone into liquidation, ou sont les AR18s d'hier.
Was that the tour with all the ripped t-shirts and
bizarre slashes of colour? If so, it was, as you say, a fashion desastre.
I seem to remember there was a live video of that tour - I think I have it on VHS in a box somewhere
That was the one...
none more 1980s. Truly vile clothes.
I have no idea what you're talking about
Make it stop!
Didn't they have Primark in 1984?
I know because I was there too...
Blooming brilliant night out but, Good LORD! Jon Anderson's puffy, crinkly, white jump suit with his microphone attached to a utility belt by a curly lead!!!
Loved the lasers shone through nets hanging from the ceiling which created shapes of light seeming to hang in mid air...
Flippin' double post...
Bah!
This has cheered me up no end
on a bleak Wednesday morning- I can't remember the last time I saw a Venn Diagram!. I've had tickets for the Belfast show for months and regretted the purchase almost immediately, thinking this would be a limp self-tribute act. I'm quite excited now - although not always a good thing in a man of my years.
Did the Canadian opt for the tiny white microphone on a curly lead, plugged into the white trousers, or a more standard device?
Mic
It was the standard setup, I'm afraid. And while it is a bit like a tribute act (it's a bit cosy - Steve Howe introduces the 90125-era stuff despite not playing on it, that kind of thing), it never feels like they're a novelty act, and the band are obviously having a whale of a time. Benoit's take on Anderson is remarkable.
point 5
is so very true. The thing that continues to amaze me about the earlier Yes albums is their breadth of ambition. They didn't always pull it off but, by the time of Close To The Edge they had the chops to play what they seemed to be hearing in their head.
I've said it before and I'll say it again - the thing that distinguished Yes from their contemporaries were the arrangements. Instrumentally they never sounded like 4 musicians fighting against each other; nor did they sound like a single 'instrumental hero' plus backing band - they wrote fully-realised arrangements which were complimented perfectly by the vocal arrangements - it was never just 'singer plus backing vocals'; the BVs were themselves musically sophisticated arrangements.
Formally arranging parts - both instrumentally and vocally - seems to be a skill that's just no longer valued.
You're right Stimpers
And also this gives lie to the lazy stereotype that prog was all 25 minute solos - in fact, the solos on Yes albums were generally pretty concise, though there were long passages of instrumental ensemble playing - as you say, properly arranged, and not in any way unstructured blowing.
I think this is about perfect
Their first two albums contained much stuff
that showed their debt to harmony vocal groups like The Association.
40 years on, I still heart this track.
I hadn't heard ANY Yes...
.... until sometime in 1984 when STV showed (late at night) what appeared at be a 1970's French music TV show, which featured Yes playing tunes from "Time and a Word" in a studio, plus fannying around on beach buggies, being chased by nuns, and so on... went out and bought "Time and a Word" the next weekend, and it's still my favourite Yes album; minimal prog bombast, just great tunes and fantastic playing. I'll take that over "Tales from Topographic Oceans" any day... "The Yes Album" much in the same vein.
Think there was a programme in the same series featuring Gabriel/Hackett-era Genesis, playing stuff from Nursery Cryme.
The Trevor Rabin bits
Amazing they still bother - I'm sure the audience would far rather hear something rarely played off Relayer or Fragile. Owner of a Lonely Heart was largely bought by non-Yes fans who probably also bought Kayleigh, Money for Nothing and The Final Countdown. They've long since left the building chaps.
Yes (in both senses!!)
If memory serves, our beloved Word mag named it "Best good song by a crap band" where clearly the inverse is the case. What are they like?
*mumble mumble*
Nothing to do with me.
Name 'n' shame Fraser...
Name 'n' shame!
Hmmmm
Unlikely to be Ellen, my money is on the Harrison (synth pop boy - probably likes that ghastly Trevor Horne production) / Heppo axis.
I suspect Hep likes the early stuff but lost interest
after The Yes Album.
Podcast
He talked about it in an early podcast - he found them "quaint" on a relisten. But he has 4 Simple Minds albums so 80s stodge is obviously part of the diet too at Casa Hepperillo.
Can't pin it on me
I like both Yes and "Owner Of Lonely Heart".
Rick Wakeman's eldest son is
Rick Wakeman's eldest son is now the keyboard player in Yes? I cannot tell you how old that makes me feel.
Imagine
how old it makes Rick feel!
I can remember when they first came along
I think the first thing I heard from them was their version of "Something's Coming" from West Side Story. There were no precedents really for a band playing in that style, although people like Vanilla Fudge and in Britain the Herd used to do extended versions of songs that were already familiar. If you're going to do something mad and challenging it always helps to take a well-known composition as the starting point.
Yes, indeed...
cf. the well known Yardbirds influence on Henry Cow...
If you want to relive it Fraser
You can get it from here:
http://concert-online.com/en/artist/20066/YES.html
£19.95?
Blimey. Even Fraser might baulk at that. I know I do.
They were selling these
Immediately after the show, and crowds of people were buying them. I've got no interest in this kind of souvenir these days, but I'd have loved such a thing when I was 16 or 17.
It baffles me how they can produce them so quickly
Even taking a feed direct from the soundboard they can't really start burning the CDs until the band leave the stage.
They weren't CDs
They were USB sticks. And as far as I can tell, they don't include any encores - but you can download those later.
Ah... ok...
so they can start filling the USB sticks when the band leave the stage the first time. I guess that gives them 15 minutes to get them done.
Maybe there's some sort of box with hundreds of USB ports that they use - pre-load the empty sticks during the gig then press the big red button to copy the music onto all of them at once.
Isn't modern life wonderful ... ?
Hang on ... I think I'm in the wrong place.
USB sticks were all made of wood and powered by steam in my day
and it were all fields around here.
That's nothing ...
It used to be all Gracie Fields when I were a lad. That's what we called Prog.
Having missed the gig
I invested in the USB, fool that I am. Actually, its a thumbs up, 320kb mp3s, good sound if a bit dry in that usual soundboard fashion. And the boy can sing, make no mistake about it. Makes me all the more irritated I missed them.
As a post-gig extra, these seem a very good plan to me - one for more bands to explore I'd imagine.
Wood is the new beige
http://www.gizmowatch.com/entry/wooden-pc-mod-electronics-blended-in-mah...
I'd kep your wooden stick ;-);-)
I may the only one, but I like Drama
In fact I reckon Tempus Fugit is up there with the classic stuff like Close to the Edge:
Some great
material on that album, well worth seeking out
I'd go as far as to say
Drama is one of Yes' best and strongest albums.
Fraser, you are a poet sir...
Yes have always been a fascinating band for me - I've seen them about 4 times, but never with Rick Wakeman. I first saw them in Edinburgh in the 1970s when they had the Roger Dean stage set. They had just released 'Yesterdays' (the one with the peeing kid on the cover) - Patrick Moraz was on keyboards. I didn't see them again until 25 years later in Vienna (with the Russian kid on keyboards) touring 'The Ladder' I saw them twice more in Vienna touring 'Open Your Eyes' and then 'Magnification' (playing with a full orchestra). Their music with orchestral accompaniment is extremely powerful.
They are a band who enjoy themselves on stage but who take their performance seriously. They don't do sloppy and their musicianship is awesome. They still play loads of stuff from their classic period ('The Yes Album', 'Fragile, 'Close To The Edge'). The last time I saw them they threw in 'The Gates of Delerium' from the excellent 'Relayer' album, as well as a track from 'Topographic Oceans'. The reception they got was fantastic, including standing ovations for 'Gates' and 'In The Presence Of' from 'Magnification'.
I was not a big fan of their '90125' period (although relished the success they enjoyed after a bit of a lull), but I loved 'Talk'. I was surprised at how good 'Drama' was too. I gave careful thought about going to see them in London this time around, but without Jon Anderson I felt it would be disappointing. I've not heard the stand-in, but for me there is only one Jon Anderson.
I recommend Yes to anyone interested in prog music or music in general. Their blend of rock and jazz has always been fascinating and they are a great band live. They are one of the bands that, on first hearing their music (it was 'The Yes Album'), I felt a real thrill and a hope that there were acts out there that could really inspire and push the envelope. Having said all that, I have never ever thought of drawing a Venn diagram to help clarify their make-up. Of course it's more complicated that presented, given the many musicians that have served time in their ranks. Still, the colours are nice.
Yes - Hammersmith Apollo 17/11/2009
The question of whether this was an average, a good or a great gig depended on your level of expectation. Was this the continuation of a historic band or just some key members playing in their own tribute act? Yes can probably be let off as they always had a high turnaround of members and have replaced Jon Anderson and Rick Wakeman before. Although to replace Anderson with a singer from a tribute band may give rise to some cynicism.
The other thing that struck me was the dynamics of the band. Benoit David, who sang beautifully and did an excellent job as lead vocalist, but was clearly not the “front man”.
It quickly emerged that Chris Squire is the leader of the band and at times stomped around the stage in “The Way We Walk” style. Oliver Wakeman, did not really add anything in terms of stage presence although playing excellently. To be hyper-critical, Wakeman Jnr played like you would expect the keyboard player in one of the better Yes tribute bands.
For me to see Steve Howe play guitar is worth the price of admission on its own. So I was more than pleased that he was very top form. Even throwing a few guitar hero shapes at times and moving off his stage carpet! His playing and solo on Owner of Lonely Heart was veered towards heavy metal and stood out from his normal style of playing.
The set was largely based on the albums The Yes Album, Fragile and Close To The Edge. The oldest song was Astral Traveller which featured the obligatory Alan White drum solo, which was tight and concise. The newest was the previously mentioned Owner of a Lonely Heart. There were some surprises including Onward from Tormato and 2 tracks from Drama, which Squire announced as being from the last time the band had had 2 new members. To hear Tempus Fugit and Machine Messiah was a special treat, taking me all the way back to when I saw the band in 1980.
I was disappointed not to hear Awaken or anything else from Going For The One, perhaps that album is too closely associated with Anderson and Wakeman Snr. Also (the song) Close to The Edge was not included. However, these are minor quibbles compared the intense performances of South Side of the Sky and Heart of the Sunrise. Their performance of And You And I was absolutely phenomenal, leading to a deserved standing ovation. The finale (encore) of Starship Trooper was very good, but I didn’t get the feeling of the spaceship taking off at the end, that you sense on their best performances of the song.
I had decided to go to the gig largely on the basis that it might the last chance to see them live in concert . When you consider the age of Howe, White and Squire; the retirement of Bill Bruford (from live performances); and that Anderson and Wakeman Snr did not join the tour for health reasons; I don’t think this was an unreasonable assumption to make.
After the show, I now feel that Yes may still have some mileage left in them, particularly with the addition of the youthful energy of David and Wakeman Jnr. At very end the band appeared with a very young lad (whom I took to be either Squire’s grandson or maybe even his son) so there may still be yet another generation of Yes members in waiting!
Set list:
Firebird Suite/Siberian Khatru
Your Move/Seem All Good People
Tempus Fugit
Onward
Astral Traveller
Owner of a Lonely Heart
South Side of The Sky
Steve Howe - acoustic solos
Heart of the Sunrise
Machine Messiah
And You And I
Roundabout
Encore - Starship Trooper
more Yes
From Wikipedia
Benoît David and Oliver Wakeman formally join Yes
In an interview on October 15, 2009 with Planet Rock radio (UK), Squire confirmed Oliver Wakeman and Benoît David as official members of the band, stating "this is now Yes," although he did not confirm Anderson's formal departure.
Squire has announced plans for a new Yes album after the band's European tour wraps up.
Not the whole story...
Much will depend upon Jon Anderson's recovery from the respiratory ailment that has caused him to rest for most of this year.
Squire has said that there are plans for a new Yes album in 2010, but he has not said who is involved. He has been concentrating in recent months on a new album - a collaboration with former Genesis guitarist Steve Hackett.
Back to the Venn diagram for a moment -
Where's Bill Bruford?
He resigned in 1972
And hadn't returned by 1983. It'd be a fairly tortuous Venn diagram to take in Bruford, Patrick Moraz, the Buggles years etc sadly
That may be true...
... but it's this obsessive attention to detail that makes Fraser the "go to" guy of the prog rock diagram, isn't it?
Don't
tempt me...
Have a crack
at Crimson next.
Try a Pie chart. Or a Pie Jesu chart (that joke'll have the Fripp completists rolling in the aisles)
NURSE!
The screens!
God bless you sir!
For some reason I
see a Pie Jesu chart as one that links Andrew Loyd Webber to Hot Gossip via Sarah Brightman ... perhaps another good reason not to do it.
However, if this exists for Deep Purple,
http://www2.warwick.ac.uk/services/art/artist/simonpatterson/wu0791/
I'd apply for your Arts Council grant now ...
Sounds like a job for...
...Pete Frame!
Sorry about that (x3)
I loved Yes in the 1970s - Chris Squire is the reason I'm a bass player (all right, one of the reasons). I saw them in Glasgow on the Going for the One tour in 1977 and they were transcendent - really!
I saw them again (still in Glasgow) on the Drama tour and they were merely excellent - apart from Squire's bass solo, which was just shameful (the "Amazing Grace" period). What was different? No Anderson or Wakeman Sr., I suppose....
Saw them twice
1. Drama tour when their biggest problem was hecklers-actually sounded great and, as said above, some of those tracks esp Run Through the Light were pretty good as far as I recall
2. Birmingham a few years ago--immense exhilaration to hear Close to the Edge etc live at last--but felt the hard working string orchestra were rather drowned. Re:
I know what you mean, but wasn't the whole joy of that era that rock wasn't really yet "mainstream", and that a band like Yes could mix up a visionary Northern hippy who liked Bernstein and Simon and Garfunkel with an RCM-trained session veteran like Wakeman ?
One thing that has struck me is that the stuff of theirs that I listen to most nowadays is from the earliest albums, particularly "Something's Coming" and "Survival". In a way the vaulting ambition you mention is more obvious there, when they were novices, than a few years later on Topographic Oceans when they'd routinely win instrumentalist polls iirc.
Mainstream
That was perhaps the wrong choice of word. I meant mainstream as in "they were popular", rather than mainstream as in "they sounded like the pop music of the day".
Thanks
my own post was a bit windy I know-but I am trying to grope towards what it is I also still love about Yes-and like you I think, like many others, that part of their greatness was in managing to be that innovative, and popular at the same time; and part of the wonder of the times was that you could be.
For me the music that starts around:
from And You and I (I think), was probably the bit that spoke most to me--I had a Uni friend who used to say that if you couldn't understand Jon Anderson just imagine a world in which his lyrics were literally true and you'd be fine ;-)
Actually downloaded a few tracks from Drama prompted by this---it'd be interesting to hear at higher res some time and I'll do this but it confirms my dim recollection that the tracks sounded better live, at Hammersmith or Victoria or wherever it was [1] than the album, partly because of the live dynamics of Squire's bass-such a feature of their sound.
[1] "they were playing smaller venues" on that tour--I think their appeal was becoming more selective.
Anyway, thanks for that Venn diagram ---what next, the career of Fleetwood Mac via linear programming and Cuisinaire Rods ?
http://www.woodentotsmk.co.uk/Library/0330%20cuisinaire%20rods.htm
There are a
couple of very nice bootlegs doing the rounds from the Drama tour if you know where to look.
Taps side of nose, walks away.
cheers
listening again to Drama I realise it was Into the Lens I liked most-Horn had more than a touch of vaulting ambition himself in those days.
I was slightly wrong in the above, it's actually
that so speaks to me, and the interwined music that immediately follows it.
Looking it up I realise the Drama show I saw
must have been first London night of that tour-Lewisham Odeon
a hard night for Trevor Horn
[edit: have dropped link to Forgotten Yesterdays as Google Chrome warns me some of the subsequent pages link to a suspect Russian site-be careful]
Poor guy must have been kacking himself
before going onstage that night.
Saw the classic line-up at Glasto recently (2003 or 2004?)
Only managed to get as far as Siberian Khatru before it all got to much on a hot Sunday Afternoon.
My abiding memory is of John Peel stomping off muttering that he now remembered why he hated them so much - or some similar sentiment.
Saw Rick Wakeman recently at the RAH "Faces reunion" PRS thing. He was the best turn of the night. Shambled on in his long black frock coat, told a couple of off-colour jokes, sat down at the grand piano and treated us to seven sublime minutes of Eleanor Rigby done in the style of Prokoviev before sloping off in the midst of mega-appreciation.