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My First Record Shop.
Posted by itfc1959 on 12 December 2011 - 4:43pm.
Have we done this? If so, don't care.
I vividly recall going to buy singles in the record department of Wholmes in Bexley Heath Broadway. In those days records were bought in special departments in electrical stores: Wholmes, and also Ajax in Welling. They had little sound booths.
I also remember how the price of 45s went up from 6/8, to 7/6, to 8/8, and 9/11. If you look at it like that, it makes iTunes look like amazing value.
I bought my first 45 there, with my own money: Daydream Believer. It was closely followed by Aquarius, Fifth Dimension, and Sugar Sugar.
Bought my first self-funded LP in Ajax. School's Out, Alice Cooper.
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Back before the dawn of time...
...well, probably around 1979... the first dedicated record shop I was in was probably Caroline Music in Ann Street, Belfast. it felt like a pretty bohemian, enticing, esoteric place - not unlike the place in the Hi Fidelity film.
It was run by one Kyle Leitch, who later went into record distribution and national singles buying for Woolworths during the 80s's. Kyle's now a good pal and we have endless fun discussing his role as the 'real' 'Godfather of Punk' in Belfast. Local character Terri Hooley - who ran the Good Vibrations shop/label in Belfast from the late '70s onwards - has more or less made a career out of being 'the Godfather of Punk'. And the very best of luck to him (in fact, there's a biopic on him currently being filmed).
The irony is that - as Tel well knows - Kyle was running a record shop selling huge volumes of punk records two years before he was! Caroline Music probably sold three times as many Good Vibes label singles as the Good Vibes shop itself did (I can only recall being in the shop once in that era - it was a bit off the beaten track, and quite forbidding to a kid!). But truth should never get in the way of a good bit of mythologising.
As for me, I never bought punk records at all! I think reissues/imports by Jethro Tull and Arlo Guthrie would have been my earliest purchases...
Also Belfast
But even further back - in the Mesolithic era (probably). My first record shop was The Gramophone Shop - just opposite the City Hall - beside the Linenhall Library. I bought my first single there - 'I'm A Boy' - The Who - at the ripe old age of 12.
It was especially notable for the listening booths. We would drop in after school to regularly listen to the latest sounds. It was there I decided between 'Harvest' and 'A Nod's As Good As A Wink'. I chose the Faces. I also remember first hearing Led Zeppelin there (LZ II)and Rory Gallagher with Taste - 'On The Boards'. Aah nostalgia, it ain't like it used to be.
I would say that Caroline Records was the first shop in Belfast with both a wide selction of music and a knowledgeable staff. I remember buying 'Tonight's the Night' and 'Nils Lofgren' on the same day; memorable because I couldn't usually afford to buy 2 LPs on the same day.
Oh how I miss independent record shops with staff who could introduce you to bands/singers you hadn't heard before.
Most of those Caroline/Gram Shop guys...
...still get together for old-times reunions whenever Robin (who went on to run Dr Robert's in Belfast) is back in town. I bumped into Gram Shop maestro of old Steve Boyle with three of his 70s/80s music shop cronies in the city centre a while back; and going for a coffee with Kyle last Saturday we bumped into Caroline mainstay Angus... It's a small world, but yes - those were indeed textbook examples of knowledgeable staff!
Whomes
I bought a fair few records in Whomes in Bexleyheath. To my memory it was a pretty fascinating place - it sold electrical goods, and records of course, also it was the first place in the area to rent videos - separate areas for VHS and Betamax naturally - and it also sold pianos.
We bought a piano from them, and later rented Queen's Greatest hits (the only VHS they had that was music-related).
In fact a quick search of the Googles brings to light the fact that Mr Whomes (1878-1960) invented the Orgapian, a mash-up of a reed organ and a piano, for use in accompanying silent films. A noted expert on playing one described it as "lacklustre".
TVs for sale at Whomes:
Other than Whomes, we had Cloud 9 Records and Tapes, and TW Records. TW Records was the place for all your punk 7" - I clearly remember the frisson when seeing the display for Wayne County and the Electric Chairs (you will, I'm sure, fill in the title of that one).
I think TW Records gets a mention in Keith's book as an early source for their blues record collecting.
Walking along the main road from Bexley to Welling..
(My grandparents lived in Welling and Sidcup)
From Crook Log baths to my aunt's house near Shoulder Of Mutton Green. SO many great shops when I was about thirteen. The fishing shop, the model shop, the sci-fi and comic shop, the record shop, the hi-fi shop. I'd have a fiver that my grandad had given me (always heavily crumpled "Here y'go, son.. I don't want this one. It's all dirty. You'd best have it..")and I would wonder where it might be spent..
Gradually, the shops closed down. My grandparents in Welling had both died by 1982 and we visited the area with less frequency. My other grandparents moved to Worthing in 1995. I last visited Welling in 2007. My first visit in about twenty years.
Bloody Hell, That Is A Trip Down Memory Lane.
We moved from Bexley Heath to Welling in 1971. From Red House Lane, opposite William Morris's house (The Red House), to Gipsy Road in Welling. I went to Crook Log baths on its opening day. I went to Crook Log County Primary School, which backed onto the site when it was being built. We used to go and peer over the fence and look at the huge hole in the ground where it was going to stand. In my memory, it was enormous and the men who worked down in the depths looked like little ants.
I moved away many, many years ago. I have a surviving Grandparent who still lives in Plumstead and when I go to see her, we go out for lunch in Bexley Heath.
Christ, what have they done to the place? Apologies to anyone who lives there, but by God the Broadway is a fcking toilet. Red House Lane is still a lovely road, though.
My Dad stayed in Barnehurst. He died in 2000. I can't go anywhere near the place now. Although we get over the grief, the horrible feeling of loss never goes away, does it>
TW Records, Eh?
That was next door to Norman Toyes, the fishing Tackle store.
I bought Selling England By The Pound there, when it came out. It had a BIG window display all to itself, with huge cutouts of the sleeve and images thereof. I have a memory of looking through the window one night at the cover picture and seeing it all lit up, and being enthralled by it. I knew I had to buy it. So I did.
I took it home, and loved it right from the opening lines, which of course we all know and love. I still do.
Three singles for a quid...
...but that was when you could get a pint of bitter for less than 2shilling, 10p to you kiddies!
I bought my first single, the Stones `Paint It Black`(6s 8d) at Rothery`s,
St. Helens and first album `Rubber Soul`- £1 13s 6d or 16 pints!!! Vinyl is a bloody bargain these days compared to what we kids had to pay then.
Rotherys was like your first record shop `itfc`, a department in an independant pre Comet/Dixons electrical store. They had small booths where we used to go at lunch from St. Helens College and listen to new releases. The shop had a very good range of music, soul, Motown and the stuff I was into West Coast music, Doors, Airplane, Quicksiver MS.
They also had a room in the back where you could listen to entire albums before choosing to buy or not, it was a very enlightened place, what was not to like?
Our Price, Gloucester
The Cross is the bit in the middle of Gloucester where Eastgate, Westgate, Northgate and Southgate streets meet. In the picture, you're standing on Southgate Street, looking towards the Cross.
Our Price was on the corner of Eastgate Street and Northgate Street. Eventually it turned into a Virgin or something. It wasn't romantic, independent or cool. The downstairs, where the albums were, was poky and smelled strongly of damp. But god, I spent hours there.
Later, it was Concepts in Durham. That *was* independent, romantic and cool, but not because it was trying to be the latter two. It was run by a tall, rangy fellow called Dave who knew us by name and would give us new releases a couple of days ahead of time. We heard "OK Computer" before anyone else. Dave sold me on the Beastie Boys, I remember. I've always been grateful.
Gloucester!
I was just speaking to a lovely bloke called Adrian in the course of my business this afternoon, Bob. He was telling me he had been to an Undertones gig (in the Guildhall?) recently and had a fine time. I have been wondering about Gloucester since then and now you kindly supply a photo. I must call him again soon to demonstrate my knowledge of the various 'gates'.
Ah, yeah, the Guildhall!
Went to a few gigs there in my late teens, after its revamp as a venue.
It's nice, Gloucester, but I hated it growing up. The only place I hated more was Cheltenham (ideas above its station).
Needless to say, I like them both now. It's all a lot lovelier at a remove of 15 years and 100 miles!
I've been to a gig in Cheltenham once...
...and thought the town seemed quite nice.
Phew... back to normal, then, Bob! :-D
It is. It's lovely.
But as a teenager it seemed prissy and up itself to me. It didn't help that I went to school there, and hated hated hated it. Cheltenham represented a fair bit of misery for me at the time.
Like I say, I like it now.
I lived there between October 1977 and...
... January 1990.
I liked it.
Drat....
...that's three times in one week now, Bob!
I was so ecstatic that normal service had (I thought) resumed that I missed reading your last line completely!
First serious record buying
was at the Diskery in Birmingham. In its first incarnation that I remember it was in Digbeth and a little bit of a trek from the town centre. The owner was a right miserable bastard but you could always exchange your old records so it meant a continual circulation of stuff. Later it moved to the Burlington arcade which was more accessible even if the owner wasn't. By this time it was competing with a newly opened Virgin Records in Corporation street that had aircraft seats with headphones and good looking girls behind the counter.These days Birmingham City Centre has one independent Swordfish which gives the impression of being on its last legs and 2 HMV's. I visited Rough Trade East yesterday for the first time - the place was buzzing and the prices are not cheap yet it seems incredibly successful. I think there is still room for Independent Record stores if they get their marketing right. Record Store day proves the interest is there - keep the unique stuff coming out as Rough Trade does and get some local live bands in the store. It can work.
My first purchases
were made at King Discs in Greenford (pictured here in 1981)

Was that near the Oldfield Tavern?
In 1981 I was an apprentice in Alperton and one of my fellow grunts lived around there. I lived between the two branches of the Metropolitan line (North Harrow and Rayners Lane) my first proper record shop was the Record and Disco centre in Rayners Lane, almost certainly a chart return shop and carrying your school books in one of their carrier bags had a certain status.
When I was older, Sellanbys in South Harrow was the place to while away Saturday afternoon. It stocked secondhand stuff and was dark and smoky, with ash trays screwed to the top of the record racks. When I read High Fidelity I immediately thought of Sellanbys. It's still there but sells CDs now and is bright and clean.
Other side of the A40
King Discs was on Greenford Broadway, just up from the Red Lion. I was also very fond of the Beggars Banquet shop in Ealing Broadway, and Pricebuster on Hammersmith Broadway.
Subway Records in Fareham Shopping Centre.
Between 1978 and 1986 they had a few bob off me.
Weston Hart's in West Street Fareham
About six or seven years before that. The typical record shop of its era - a furniture shop with records at the back. They had plywood listening booths, and I was so impressed that they let me listen to an LP -More by Pink Floyd - that I bought it, even though I didn't like it.
Not my first purchase, but...
I remember in about 1970 accompanying my friend Eddie (who was an unreconstructed mod and a big Motown fan, especially the Four Tops) to NEMS in Liverpool, Brian Epstein's famous emporium, (which was actually a furniture store and is now, sadly, a sex shop) to buy the Tops' latest 45. Resplendent in his pristine dark brown mohair two-tone two-piece suit and Ben Sherman - record buying was an occasion in those days - Eddie strutted up the counter, leaned on it, fixed the female assistant with his coolest moddiest expression and said 'I Can't Help Myself'. Amazingly, she didn't bat an eyelid...
Beatties, Birkenhead
My record shop of choice was Skeleton, the 'head' shop that did second hand stuff, bootlegs (sorry, 'imports') and smelt strongly of patchouli. I've written about Skeleton at length here before so won't bore you again. If you're down at one of Those London mingles, speak to Carl - he knows it well.
But Skeleton wasn't the first. The first was Beatties department store, at the bottom of Grange road. It had a pretty decent selection for a department store - I clearly remember flicking through the racks and seeing 'Weasels Ripped My Flesh' and Juicy Lucy's 'Get a Whiff of This' in and amongst the James Last and the Mantovani.
But all my early purchases were from Beatties, usually using record tokens rather than cash.
Imagine
Who's Next
Trilogy
Pictures At An Exhibition
Were the first, I recall.
Skeleton Records
Blimey there's a blast from the past.
First vinyl I ever bought, with my own money, was "Fanfare For The Common Man" in July 1977.
Can't remember the name of the record shop but it was on Prescot Road just before Old Swan opposite the jewellers.
Most of my early albums were bought from Edwards' in Kensington, a proper cramped, good old fashioned record shop.
Early purchases
probably made in the upstairs record department of Turner's Electrical Store, Bridlington, and the local Boots and Woolies. Certainly remember buying Squeeze and the Farmers Boys in Turners and a Best of the Bonzos in Boots, to which the Sales Assistant muttered to a colleague 'never thought we'd sell that'.
As I got more into '80s Indie and travelled a bit further for purchases/college, Sydney Scarborough in Hull and Red Rhino in York became regular haunts. Sydney Scarborough in particular was where you could pick up those singles that came in paper and plastic rather than proper sleeves - such as the Soup Dragons and The Shop Assistants. Billy Bragg and my Ukrainian John Peel sessions came from Red Rhino. And many, many a purchase from 2nd hand record shops and fairs in Leeds, Hull and York. Now I can't remember the last time I went to either, or what I would look for if I did.
Couple of weeks pocket money.
Harry Hayes Record shop on the Fulham Road, 1977, where I purchased my first LP £3.99 full price. I later found out that Mr. Hayes, who owned and ran the shop, was a well-respected jazz musician, he guested on This Is Your Life when George Melly was on it, he always wore a suit and tie, looked at me rather disapprovingly when I took my Ramones LP, the debut, to the counter.
Luckily..
First record ever purchased with my own money was Solid Gold Easy Action T-Rex at WH Smiths in Ilford High St.. The second was She by Charles Aznavour for me Mum..woulda hated that to have been my first..
Serious record buying comenced at Downtown Records and Opus 1 both in Billericay High St.. then a little later at Record Mart (which is still there) in Southend On Sea and Moondogs in East Ham.
Leonard Booth…
...South Street, Eastbourne. They sold singles, not in the original paper sleeve, but in a thick cardboard sleeve with the shop's name on and a transparent plastic window for the record label.
Since you ask, my first single was Apache by The Shadows, Columbia DB4484.
Blimey
I thought Max's was the one in Eastbourne. That's where we all used to hang about annoyingly.
First single was...
... Strawberry Fields Forever/Penny Lane and my first LP, four years later, was Electric Warrior, both bought in The Spinning Disc on Chiswick High Road.
Wholmes, Bexleyheath.
Probably bought my first single in there too.
Small world.
What School did you go to, Doug?
Primary and Secondary.
I lived...
on the Joyden's Wood estate between Bexley and Dartford. Went to Joyden's Wood Primary then Dartford Grammar (for a while,I was a naughty lad and got thrown out a couple of senior schools)Wilmington,and finally Hextable Comp.
Joyden;s Wood? Blimey.
I;d forgotten all about that.
I went to see a friend perform at the Mick Jagger Centre at Dartford Grammar a few years ago. Apparently he put his legendary tight fist into his pocket to help to pay for it. Nice building. Thumbs up for him for that, i think.
They renamed the Chemistry Lab after Keef.
Only kidding.
Very boringly...
No groovy, independent Head Shop for me.
WH Smiths record dept in Burgess Hill, when I was about 7 or 8, I think. Two Beatles singles in generic green reissue sleeves: "Yellow Submarine"/"Eleanor Rigby" and "Get Back"/"Don't Let Me Down" (obviously, I'd seen the movies on telly at Christmas). 59p each!
That paragraph dates me in so many ways...
59p each!
...result! My younger brother bought all those green-sleeved reissues too, then sought out the originals...
My first record shop...
was Clarkes in my hometown in Lincolnshire. My aunt worked there, which I found a bit embarrassing when I was in the shop. My first 45 purchase of my own choice was "Itchycoo Park" by the Small Faces. My mum gave me the money, I can't remember how much but I believe it was 1968. I do remember singles being 7s 6d but have no idea when that was. One time I went in to collect a record I'd ordered, I think I was about 11 or 12, and it hadn't arrived, but my aunt helpfully said, "Oh, your dad's order is in." It was "Try To Remember" by Nana Mouskouri. I didn't want to be carrying that uncool record around, but I didn't have any choice because here was my aunt handing it to me in a brown paper bag with "Clarkes" printed in black on the front. Obviously, I ran into the local bully boys on the way home and they had a field day. I don't think "wanker" was common currency in those days, but whatever the 1970 equivalent was echoed in my ears all the way to my front door.
Loughborough's finest
The Left Legged Pineapple
and
Castle Records
R.I.P!
E.L.T.A.S. Records, Chandlers Ford, Hampshire
We got the Aristocrats soundtrack there. I don't remember the shop lasting long.
Then, a gift shop cum record shop called Acorns opened in the Fryern Arcade. I spent a fortune there between 1977 and 1981.
Downstairs at Syd's
Downstairs at Sydney Scarborough's in Hull, is where I used to buy most of my records - including ordering Joy division's Transmission, and the Human League's Being Boiled on the same day.
But it was probably Regis Records on Holderness Road where I bought my first records. They used to have listening booths. They were also opposite my dad's shop, where he sold some records as well as TVs - but before I can remember. First record I remember buying is Back Home by the England 1970 world cup squad (b/w Cinnamon stick - I didnt know what Cinnamon was for years).
Keating and Rumens
in Palmers Green. They also sold electrical goods and guitars. I think I got my first guitar there aged 13. The first single was 'When You Walk In The Room', by the Searchers.
I'm pretty sure that this became Opus Records in the 1970s.
Palmers Green had loads of interesting places to wander for a kid - a department store (Evans & Davies), music stores, camera stores, toy stores, antique/bric-a-brac, cafes. At one point it had 2 cinemas - The Queens and a Gaumont within about 100 yards of each other. There may even have been a third cinema, but I may be mistaken.
Russell Acott and Taphouses
were the two main record shops in Oxford. Both musical instrument shops, but upstairs at Acott's and downstairs at Taphouses were the records departments and many, many happy hours were spent there listening to records in the booths, having to make a big, big decision on what to spent your hard-saved 32/6 on. Very, very happy days!
Strawberry Fields - Rickmansworth
I believe Tony Blackburn opened it in the 60s. When I got there in the 80s it was situated in the dampest corner of 'Penn Place' which was immortalised in this beautiful postcard:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/daviddb/202887979/
The windows were plastered with posters, as was the inside. They had a cool picture of yoda and 2/3 arcade machines including, at one time, Battlezone. There were racks of vinyl and I recall eyeing the 'Frog Chorus' picture disc but never bought it (I was young at the time so cut me some slack).
Mid 80s it moves onto the High Street (taking the place of the toy shop) and as my tastes became more discerning I gradually began to realise what a poor selection of records they had. To be fair I think maybe they just stopped keeping up with the times but they must have been pretty poor buyers as there was rarely anything there that you would really want. By the end there was loads of discounted stock that you wouldn't even want at 1/10th of the original price. And the service was really lacking with the owner seeming to look down her nose at anyone daring to hand over their hard earned cash.
Only thing I can say in their favour was that they were good at allowing you to put first dibs on the displays so maybe 12 months later you could be the proud owner of a large cardboard cut out of 'Vigil in a wilderness of mirrors' or some other chart storming release. They loved Marillion in there.