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Move over, Steven Moffat, Toby Whithouse the man

Remote Control's picture

This whole second half of the series has been good but tonight's...

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(actually, I thought last week's just as good

But this one really caught me by surprise.)

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Remote Control | 17 September 2011 - 9:32pm

I enjoyed this one more than

I enjoyed this one more than last week's. Can't believe that there's only a couple of episodes left in this run.

Next week should certainly stir-up opinions with Cybermen and James Corden.

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Clash | 18 September 2011 - 7:01am

I have been a bit underwhelmed

by this series generally. It just hasn't gripped me. But yesterday's ep was nice and creepy, and did that whole Doctor trying to save innocents in peril thing, which is what Doctor Who is best at, I think. Equally, the little boy with the doll's house was a good ep, for the same reason.

Despite the ambivalence about the series, it's still - as I usually say - one of the only things I go out of my way to watch.

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Adman | 18 September 2011 - 11:09am

No more

Amy and Rory?

Or are they making a triumphant return to save the Doctor in a later episode?

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donttellhimpike | 18 September 2011 - 1:08pm

Probably a scheduled 'assistant light' episode

There is usually each season an episode or two in which the Doctor and assistants appear only briefly (eg Blink, Turn Left). This was done so because it just wasn't possible for the leads to do a full 13 episodes each year. Amy and Rory will definitely be back for the season climax episode.

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count jim moriarty | 18 September 2011 - 1:17pm

What

the episode that was 'The Curse Of Fenric' crossed with The Shining, Star Trek Next Generation and the excerable 'Fear Her'? Psssstttthhhhh!!!!

Oh sorry, thought I was a miserable sod on a Dr Who forum.

Great episode as I hoped from the 'Being Human' fella. Thought that David Walliams was a bit underused even if he did sound just like his 'Lou' character from Little Britain.

Like the dolls house ep this also had a real Sapphire n Steel vibe to it. I'm thinking that people my age are now writing Dr Who and were very affected by that bizarre show.

Think next weeks Corden episode will be a little light relief and running about before the finale gets all doomy on us and his companions return. Yes and River Song *rubs thighs*

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DogFacedBoy | 18 September 2011 - 2:35pm

River Song rubs thighs?

Hers? The Doctor's? Mine?
Can't wait.

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paulwright | 18 September 2011 - 3:57pm

Yes and River Song *rubs thighs*... ???

....with all the various combinations of Jon Anderson and pals, she'll be exhausted

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chrisf | 19 September 2011 - 6:17am

Bona fide corker.

I suspect that after 3 series, when he's played out this massive Silence arc, Yer Moff is going to pack it in. And on this form I want Whithouse to replace him.

*prays* notgatissnotgatisspleasebabyjesusnotgatiss

I don't think Doctor Who will ever again be as good as it is right now. It certainly never has been.

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Bob | 19 September 2011 - 7:24am

Superb

Just chipping in to agree, it's been great so far.

I also really hope that Matt Smith sticks around for a good while.

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kidpresentable | 19 September 2011 - 2:17pm

Gatiss or Whithouse

Both would be great as far as I'm concerned. Gatiss has a nice line in subtle creepiness, and loves to inject some proper horror for the kids. Whithouse knows how to do 'issues' and mix the mundane with the fantastical.

Thing is, Moffat's boots are practically unfillable. I think I want him to stay forever, so I can have my 12 hours a year when I am reduced to just being a kid staring wide-eyed in amazement at the telly. I agree with Bob - this is as good as Doctor Who gets. Pretty much as good as TV gets. Matt Smith is basically the current crop of kids' Tom Baker.

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Uncle Monty | 19 September 2011 - 2:28pm

Gatiss

I don't know about him. He's never written an out-and-out cracker. The Dickens one in the Ecclestone series was creditable, but not great. The Idiot's Lantern was OK. Spitfires In Fucking Space was the worst episode in the entire Moffat run, and one of the worst ever since the restart.

I always feel like Gatiss is just a bit knowing, just a bit retro-pastiche, and he doesn't have the dialogue chops. I know he's an über fan, but he hasn't got it right yet.

Whithouse, on the other hand, now has God Complex, Vampires of Venice and School Reunion under his belt, as well as all of Being Human. Of the DW episodes, one is utterly outstanding and two are very good.

Although, it's worth remembering that Moff's episodes under Russell T. Davies were all absolutely BRILLIANT: The Empty Child/Doctor Dances two-parter, Blink and the Silence In The Library two-parter. Each of those was the best in its respective series by an embarrassingly long chalk. Like you say: unfillable boots.

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Bob | 19 September 2011 - 2:55pm

BTW

anyone else notice The Doctor taking a big bite out of an apple at the start of the episode?

In his first story when he ends up eating fish fingers and custard he takes a bite out of an apple and then spits it out cos his new tastebuds think they are awful

Knowing that Moffat never puts such things in for effect may this be a clue that THIS ain't the real Doctor?

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DogFacedBoy | 19 September 2011 - 2:42pm

I had the same thought.

And at the end of Night Terrors, he said "Nice to be back together. In the flesh" to Rory and Amy. Whoa!

But if the Doctor on the banks of the lake isn't the real Doctor, how can he have started to regenerate before Melody shot him again? (He did start: I double checked). That had to be the real doc, surely? Flesh can't regenerate can it? Or can it? Or CAN it?

I'm Gelliant Gutfright.

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Bob | 19 September 2011 - 2:52pm

Or could it?

I still don't know how its gonna pan out.

I found River Song's 'Oh, of course not" after she tried to shoot the astronaut a clear indication that it was he in the suit and of course she can't kill a former version of herself. I said so at the time. No honest you can check.

So River Song get jailed for killing the Doctor when in fact she killed a "version" of him.

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DogFacedBoy | 19 September 2011 - 3:00pm

* deep breath*

I didn't really like Saturday's episode until the last ten/twelve minutes which were ace.

I have also wondered if this Doc was somehow not fully the Doc, but haven't got any fuller theories than that.

I do know one or two people who have given up on it, because the time stuff is jsut confusing them. Their loss, but when Family Fortunes beats it in viewing figures as it did this Saturday, it's not great news. Either for Dr Who or society in general.

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JoLean | 19 September 2011 - 10:19pm

That was only on the overnights

by 100,000 once they added the time shifters and such you're looking at Dr Who wapping it by 1.5 million.

Doesn't help that it was preceded by uber shite Celeb Masterchef. Building an audience doesn't get any tougher than that!

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DogFacedBoy | 20 September 2011 - 12:33am

Only seen the first one of the second half

I was a little thrilled to get the slight feeling that the Daleks, Cybermen etc are trying to stop the Doctor because it is the Doctor who is actually the evil one. For the first time, I am beginning to see things from their point of view.

My only slight niggle is that the Daleks used to be right b***ards and could be relied on to do something cruel and ruthless to underline why we hate them. These days, their nastiness just seems to be a given. They enter into dialogue and allow themselves to be tricked by a jammy dodger biscuit. It's not in keeping with the evil killing-machine race of legend.

Don't mind me, though - I am very slow on the uptake. It was only a few days ago I worked out that Torchwood is an anagram.

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Austin | 20 September 2011 - 4:29am

Good ending?

Anyone guess in advance how Who dunnit?

(I know that's not his surname...)

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Remote Control | 1 October 2011 - 9:09pm

Yeah

they'd NEVER play on "Doctor Who", would they?

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maggieloveshopey | 1 October 2011 - 9:42pm

I enjoyed it

I was worried that the twist that allowed him to live would be a bit of a cop out. I suppose you could argue that it sort-of was, but it always had to be in some way and they're having to retain what happened as part of the character's history. I certainly hadn't guessed it. Really enjoyed the series and how it's set up the next one!

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kidpresentable | 2 October 2011 - 2:32pm

Dr Who going old skool

back to the central question - Doctor Who?

Who is he. He once said 'Oh, I'm much more than just anotehr Time Lord'. What is his name. Whats the question. Wahts the answer? Why will even asking it cause great ripples through time and space. When will silence fall?

Moffat answered a few questions and set up new ones. No reset button in the finale. the Doctor wants everyone to think he's dead so that he can hide in plain sight and discover what the Silence want etc

Smart family entertainment - whoda thunk it would still get past the idiot controllers.

#saveconfidential

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DogFacedBoy | 2 October 2011 - 3:03pm

DW going old skool...

I do hope you are right DFB.

I didn't enjoy the series as a whole, but a few corking episodes. Very promising.

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Adman | 2 October 2011 - 5:35pm
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