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Mojo
I bought Mojo yesterday and I haven't bought it for a while and even having the facility to browse for as long as I wish (see p94), I haven't even browsed.
It was the Mott feature that made me do it.
What's happened to this mag, it's rubbish, all over the place. The worst part was after reading the list of staff at the front to see the usual editor and staffers type then turning over the page to find a list double the length of the Bauer people.
My first thought was that it was obvious that the man had got hold of the mag and the following contents proved that it was obviously written after reading a market survey demographic report.
Truly awful.
Incidentally, the mag is run by the head of mens magazines.
So it's official now is it, that women don't like music?
errrrrrr, when I think of it are their many females who post on here?
Make yourselves known!
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why don't people
complain about other magazines to the actual magazines editors?
Have you sen the Slomo website?
(No, me neither but.......)
Your blog
is complete crap if you don't mind me saying. I am a subscriber to both Word and Mojo and also buy Uncut most months. In recent months Mojo has had a return to form and has produced some truly excellent articles. Have you posted on this site to toady up to the producers of Word? If so you appear faintly ridiculous - I don't suppose thy give a rats ass if you like Mojo or not and I certainly don't. There was a time when it looked as if Mojo and myself were going in different directions but they have pulled it round. I buy the 2 magazines for different reasons and there are some months when Word is better and vice versa. Mojo tends to have the better cover cd's overall and this month they are giving away the free Antony and the Johnsons new cd AND a 6 film boxset of Al Pacino.Makes me wish my subscription was up for renewal.
I'd agree with you Steve...
I like Mojo overall - some months it's great, others not so great, so I'll keep up my subscription on this too - looks like i should give Uncut a try?
Covermount CDs
I have to say the last two Mojo ones have been cracking. So my subscrip remains… for now.
It's a big enough planet
for both mags to survive. Must admit that I haven't forked out for Mojo for over two years but I may be tempted if Mott are on the cover. I'm probably out of step in my musical tastes to the majority of the massive because I've never really found anything much I like on the Word CD. I now stick it in the walkman, close my eyes and give each tune twenty seconds. If I'm not grabbed I move on to the next selection. My average listening time is something like five minutes. Thank heavens the magazine itself is generally more interesting. ( Although more reviews of re-issues would be nice ).
I don't usually reply to responses like Steve Turner's
because it's all about opinions and replying to criticism is pretty pointless because errrrrrr it's all about opinions.
For this time only, I stand by what I posted and that's my opinion, not necessarily right for everyone else, but it is for me.
I reply because of the over reaction to the post, I see you like Mojo in it's present form but "complete crap" and "slightly ridiculous" are, in my view, completely over the top and silly.
I have no reason at all to toady up to anyone from Word, why would I?
I have also expressed my views to Mojo itself.
In the past, I've been critical of Word and also praised it.
If Mojo don't care about my opinion then that's fine, I vote with my money and many others have.
I agree that the cover cd is great, I don't buy a magazine for what is on the cd, I buy it to read and it doesn't do it for me.
I haven't bought it for a while and I won't buy it again.
Steve, your view is fine, but temper the comments, it's only an opinion.
Sheesh!
This is the internet.
Reasonable responses are boring. The more insane, flem specked and offensive the better. That's my opinion and I would like to be abused for it (the first person to bitch is a big blob of congealed chutney).
Nazi
LOUDspeaker, can I be the first to say that you're such a Nazi for expressing those views and should p*** off back to Russia. Or something.
Feck me
Thats the first of your postings I have ever agreed with, LOD.
Should I be worried.
(P.S. What kind of chutney? I'm quite partial)
Sorry 'bout the non-U nature of the first draft, but I have left it, cos it looks and seems quite apt......
You were, are and shall remain shit.
I feel offended but not really abused. Too measured and thought out. The person above came across as a bigger jerk.
"The person above came across as a bigger jerk."
Yay!
It just goes to show...
..you can't be too careful.
Mojo & Word are neck-and-neck for me...
... and I subscribe to both, but each edition is variable. This month's Mojo's Mott feature is great (excellent CD too), but the Lennon/Ono piece might be the worst major piece I've ever read in the mag, and certainly the worst cover story.
Conversely, it's rare that I'm totally knocked out by Word, but I look forward to the "plop" on the doormat more than I do for Mojo, maybe because it has an "old friend" status that Mojo just doesn't, almost certainly down to my appreciation for "the cut of their jib", the podcasts and this forum...
Lennon/Ono…
… It'll be a very long trip to the toilet before I resort to that particular feature.
Gritted teeth
Yes I bought it with gritted teeth with that Lennon/Ono cover, just for the Mott feature which I haven't finished yet - it doesn't start well though - all the usual lazy clichés about "the 70s were grey, it was all blues dirge and complacent prog" etc etc. I mean, I was there, 18 in '77, and it was great. Unless you are trying to reposition yourself as an extra in a black and white Joy Division video or something. Come on hacks, try harder.
Sorry to have offended but it was
a little tongue in cheek and designed to get a response as no doubt your original blog was. I do agree with LOUDspeaker though - the funnier responses are normally those that are shall we say less polite. So if you don't like it tough shit!!!
Mojo is in major need of a revamp
My heart sinks every time it plops onto the doormat. It's not as wide-ranging as Word, it's quite narrow and very repetitive.
I quite like the latest Uncut myself
Nice feature on Madness in there.
*walks away whistling to himself*
Uncut
Buy that quite a bit, because I like their obsession with Americana, something I have a strange compulsion for. Enjoy most of it, but find it fairly 'light' in comparison with Word, and Allan Jones sometimes comes across as a little smug to me.
Stopped getting Mojo a while ago, take it occasionally now, but not a massive fan. Will get this month for the Mott article recommended above.
I'm with Five-Centres
Long time lurker, first time poster.
I was a subscriber a couple of years ago, before switching first to Uncut and then to Mojo. I wish I'd returned to Word instead. I too get a sinking feeling when the latest edition arrives. It's just so STUFFY.
When I buy Word (and visit here and listen to the podcast), I get a real sense that the people behind it genuinely understand what it is to LOVE music (and books and films and... stuff). Has anyone else read anything about Spotify in Mojo or Uncut? I haven't. And unless I'm mistaken, Mojo doesn't do columnists - so you won't get an opinion anywhere other than the letters page or reviews section.
I still think Word could increase its hit rate of readable features - I still find myself skipping over too many pages, which is why I changed my subscription in the first place. But there were only two worth reading in the latest Mojo (the Antony and Mott pieces). The rest felt like a magazine for stamp collectors.
"Has anyone else read anything about Spotify in Mojo or Uncut?"
Maybe some people are more interested in music than the means of delivering it
Totally agree
For me, the best of the ForeWord section is always the stuff about actual art/creativity, rather than tehnological/social items. For exampe, from the short pieces on Arthur Russell and Neil Halstead, to name but two, I've found two new musical friends, with big back catalogues, that will give me a lot of time and pleasure rooting through for gems. (it helped that they were both both well-written as well.
On th other hand, the countless piece on the state of the music industry, including downloading and all other such gizmos, have given me much less overall. Perhaps there's some nerds out there who enjoy them though.....
I used to buy them all
Probably a lot on here who did too.
Time, growth of the net, even money meant one by one they dropped off.
At the time of the revamp of Select and with Q, Vox, Record Collector, the sum of the parts meant that the music I like was covered by them all.
That was before the internet and now I suppose a lot of use the money to pay for the isp.
I thought I'd give them all a go, month by month to see if I was missing anything.
I was really disappointed with Mojo, could be just the one issue and the Mott and Anthony features are bob on agreed.
Last month it was Uncut and it was ok, not ok enough to make me want to buy it every month.
Q was probably the best of the rest but completely different to how it used to be. Seemed to be for the short attention span but was quite enjoyable.
Steve, you made me cry you brute, I'm just coming to terms with the trauma, I've booked counselling and everything, how could you do this to me.
Word doesn't always hit the spot, but I think "cut of the jib" sums it all up.
I do look forward to it and I suppose the issues I find a bit wanting, others will find great.
Mojo's good features...
... are its features. I’ve always liked the way they’re prepared to devote 10 or 15 pages to an in-depth feature on an artist, and they’re invariably well researched and written. Last month they gave about eight pages to the story of the Dave Clark Five, and it was fascinating.
In contrast, I’m occasionally frustrated by The Word’s unwillingness to go into real depth on a topic. The ‘bit at the front’ tends to take up over half the magazine these days, and there are rarely more than a couple of articles of more than three pages - and even those are often ‘portmanteau’ features like this month’s ‘stuff we like’ article.
Given that the magazine originally advertised itself with the strapline ‘At last - something to read’, I can't help feeling a bit short-changed at times. I’d rather have one really meaty 5,000-word article than five 1,000-worders.
But overall I agree with other posters: The Word has heaps more character, opinion and fun.
This month's Q
is the first time in my life that I've looked at the cover stars and had no clue who they were.
The subcriber's edition is wordless, but even asking around the office, it took a long time before someone guessed who they were. (Greenday of course).
Does this say something about me, or something about the cover stars?
This month’s Q
A bit of both, F-C!
Or perhaps more...
...about the absurd amount of airbrushing the photo had?
I'd like to say
i agree with everything the previous caller said
Green Day were so much better when they were the Foxboro Hot Tubs
On the subject of other mags
Last weeks Kerrang had an article on the recent Fall Out Boy tour. Through my daughter I have become a big fan of FOB (check out their last two albums - they should be bigger than Killers and Kings of Leon put together).
Anyway, the magazine usually has a house style of NME crossed with Smash Hits, but the article described the tedium of touring areas better than anything I have ever read. The breeze block anonimity of MEN/NEC/O2 was summed up brilliantly, worthy of Word magazine, and has helped me get over the fact that, at 47 and with no musical talent, I am probably not going to become a rock star.
I subscribe to both Mojo & Word
Totally different magazines, both worthwhile.
My dad was so annoyed
when Bauer started sending him unsolicited sample copies of their other "men's titles", he actually cancelled his Mojo subscription. Evidently, rapacious publishing giants mess with the "do not send me marketing information" tickbox at their peril...
Possible return
I bought Mojo every month for about 200 issues and only now read and subscribe to Word....but I think I'm going to give Mojo another go, simply because I am a bit weary of the pop music dimension of Word - Pet Shop Boys etc - I know a lot of the massive like "classic pop" etc but I have come to realise I don't actually like most pop music and fancy an alternative mag which talks about grown ups' music with some depth.
All pile in. Assuming you're not down the disco. And it isn't all pop music, by the way.
I'm trying desperately to pile in
but I can't get a proper bloody wireless connection in this bleeding dance hall.
Erasure's on now.
I bet they are!
Enjoy. I'm listening to King Crimson.
You'll be wanting Gerry Smith's 'Music For Grown Ups' site then
http://www.musicforgrownups.co.uk/
He's a little too attached the idea of a 'canon' and a little too dogmatically attached to what he classes as 'music for grown ups' to the extent that he comes across as "I'm right, you're wrong" but he's often interesting.
god forbid we lose any of the three
having the ability to choose or buy all is a joy. We cannot browse record shops anymore , at least we can browse a mag and i am sure there are others like me who find interesting stuff in all. I am alo glad 'the word' cd sticks to the new music and is therefore different. when all three mags become so similar as the (large ) record shops did there will be little point in having all three on the shelf.
Brilliant
Nice allegory, you could be right. As I find myself increasingly unable to browse hard product, reading about it has become a real alternative, unfortunately involving one-off perusals of increasingly dodgy titles. Anyone read a copy of "Clash", it's cack........
Hey..
...they ALL give you a free(ish) CD.
Without them I doubt whether I would never have listened to or heard:
Band Of Horses
Sparklehorse
Colin Meloy
Iron & Wine
Kate Campbell
Big Bill Broonzy
Calexico
The Magnetic Fields
The Handsome Family
Felice Brothers
Matthew Ryan
Midlake
etc etc etc
They're both better than that one Alan Jones edits..
..what's it called again "God bless America, and every tinpot band that bleats from its shores"?
So, just to re-cap...
there's no women on here then?
I'm a woman...
And I buy Word religiously, and the other music mags depending on the covers etc. So much better than the awful 'women's' magazines with their endless articles on 50 new ways to give a blow job, and how to get your commitment phobic boyfriend to propose.
50!
really...50!
Impressive!
I'm cancelling my Word subscription and going for the women's mags...Did the fifty have the one that involves a mouth full of frozen grapes??
50...
I keep waking up, saying the word "50" over and over, in tones veering from quizzical to enraged.
This article. Were there sketches?
And surely those were 2 parts of the same article. Because if that doesn't work...
Untuc
A polite anagram of the one Shane mentions...and I completely agree with him.
It truly is appalling, and how many times can they prattle on about the same artists over and over again? Hopefully another Beatles or Stones cover to look forward to soon though...
You know what
You're dead right there. That's why I stopped buying it.
Alan Jones
has always irritated me, simply because every article he writes seems to be about him and then his amusing stories of how out of it he was are a par at times with Mick Wall's I'm with the band stories.
At least Mick Wall gives the impression that he cares about the music.
Uncut's Americana obsession has never done it for me, but it will obviously for others.
The length of Uncut's articles are a good thing, it's just that they're all about the same bloody people.
I don't think I've ever really liked Uncut but that may be because the content isn't really aimed at the things I like.
I did have a spell of quite liking Vox.
Couldn't agree more
about Alan Jones,he's always irritated me, especially with his feature at the end of the mag. Uncut need to get rid of him and get some new blood in, would improve the mag no end. Plus he ignored several e mails I sent complaining about how poor the mag was becoming, a few years ago
Subscribe to both Uncut and Word
and pick up the occasional copy of Mojo if it looks interesting.
Have been seriously considering my future with Uncut over recent months - there is only so much you could possibly read about Dylan, Young, Stones etc.
Pleasingly the past couple of months have featured the Roses and Madness, hopefully sales will be robust enough to resist a return to the usual suspects.
Jones' writing style is very much an acquired taste, but what I find more irritating is his overkill on certain acts. In recent years we have been saturated with his enthusiasm for the likes of Richmond Fontaine, The Hold Steady and most bizarrely Babyshambles. Nothing wrong with being a fan, but give it a rest after 6 months please.
At last a lady appears hurrah!
and she appears to buy Word in a church.
A whole new marketing world seems to be appearing, it'll never catch on surely.
I agree with you
about Uncut - the subject matter is narrower than in either Word or Mojo although I am interested very much in Americana which is why I still buy it most months. The problem I have is with Alan Jones - his ego seems to be bloody huge and he gives the impression it his magazine only.
I have to say thatuntil this posting occurred I didnt even realise MOJO had changed ownership so i have to say it hasnt affected the quality in my humble etc etc.
Now which magazine was the blowjob article in - I have to get my wife a birthday present.
Jones is a legend his own lunchtime
He'd probably love the attention he's getting on here.
The best writers are the ones who make an article fascinating when you don't like the artist.
For me, Charles Shaar Murray is the best at this and Paul Du Noyer has some great moments too.
Q was a revelation when it came out and it opened the gates for everything else.
The humour was like an adult Smash Hits.
I used to buy Smash Hits when I was probably way too old because it made me laugh out loud, I couldn't care one jot for most of the music in it.
I can assure you that the fact that the bosses are connected to both is in no way connected to my wish for a Word Badge or Pencil or a big up etc etc.
Does anyone remember Rock On CD (?????), the first mag, I think, with a cover disc. From what I remember of it, the mag was pretty dire and Paul Trynka was the editor?
Cover CD glue
Responding to favourable comments above I bought the new Mojo. Got in, tried to remove the cover CD only to find it stuck on with some awful semi runny sticky shit (not the usual cow gum), most of which stayed on the cover. I tried to get it off but it ended up just smearing around the place. Got some on my clothes. Ended up having to rip the cover off and stick it in the bin. Bastards!
Anyone else have this problem?
Before whoever it was above suggests it, I did send an e-mail of complaint as soon as I got the crap off my hands.
In their own write
Excellent book about the history of the music press told through the voices of the writers is "In their own write" by Paul Gormam, including Heppo and much about, though he's not quoted, Mark Ellen. Plus CSM, etc. I've read it over and over. Lots of great bitchiness and gossip!
http://www.amazon.com/Their-Own-Write-Adventures-Music/dp/1860743412
Mojo,Uncut and girls
Uncut has completely lost it in the last few years, gone from bad to worse and has disappered up its own fundament with the Americana,Dylan, Neil Young and yadda,yadda
Mojo can still bring home the bacon although some of its recent issues have been poor.
and finally , I reckon anythingcanhappen started this thread to meet girls
One L of a mistake leaving one L out of Allan
Must dig out "In Their Own Write", seem to remember it being a great read first time round, particularly on the NME v Melody Maker battle in the Seventies.
Yes I did indeed start the thread to meet girls in churches and nearly managed until I was rumbled by not spelling Alllllllan correctly.
If You're Going To Have A Pop
At the Jones boy, at least get his bloody name right. As in Allan. Personally, I love his stuff, especially the bit at the back.
Apologies...
..I'll try to get the names right of everyone who irritates me in future.
But for now I'll continue using
Jammy Oliver
Jeremy Clarkstone
Phill Colins
David Kwantick
etc
Really?
I thought it was Grinning Idiot Boy.
I find that once I've read about one drunken exploit with Nick Lowe/Elvis Costello/Lee Brilleaux, I've read 'em all. Quite enjoyed the one with/about Gordon Lightfoot tho', as it was clear "Jonesy" was a whisker away from a lamping.
What? No-one buys 'Classic Rock'??
'fess up. Everyone knows that music died when Daddy Longlegs broke up. At least Classic Rock keeps the illusion alive. And once every year or so, the cover CD has a stonkingly good track on it.
On the subject of religion...
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."
Aren't we all followers of the Prophets Hepworth and Ellen?!
if you want more women to read the mag...
stop using pictures of provocatively-posed young 'ladies' on the free cds.
great tunes, very, very silly covers
(and i'm a bloke, by the way...)
Unmissable up to...
...the millenium. Or thereabouts.
Truth be told, the zenith came around spring 1997 (remember the fantastic Byrds / Kraftwerk and English Psychedelia issues?).
Exceptionally high standard maintained for 18 months or so (e.g. Keith Moon, Marvin Gaye / XTC issues).
Dropped sharply in 2000. . You suddenly stopped learning anything new. Instead, you had to wade through lazy, barely-researched, error strewn cut / paste jobs written by apparent novices*.
Issue 100 was like a sick car-crash - stopped buying it shortly afterwards.
...I'm sure this co-incided with departure of Mssrs Ellen, Hepworth from EMAP sausage factory.
But for that 7 year period, it was in a class of it's own and the first 80 odd issues still read well today.
*: before we get all smug, THAT Mitch Mitchell photograph byline (3 errors in one sentence) a couple of Word issues ago made my CHUFFING BLOOD BOIL. Exactly the type of poor journalism that made me give up on Mojo. Hopefully, that was a genuine exception.
More on Mojo, Classic Rock, Religion, CD Covers, blah blah
I'm not really one for everything was better in the past. For every Teenage Kicks, there was a Feels Like I'm In Love.
But...... Mojo was great, I couldn't go in to Jeff's detail, but I stuck with it till about 2004 ish, for me it just lost it. It was a gradual thing. I've tried since and find it hard to believe that every issue I've bought and not liked is a one off.
The English Psychedelia issue was brilliant but there were many more, it was my favourite read.
I remember the publicity on the launch, Mark Ellllllllllllen was on radio 4 if I remember and he obviously talked it up and it turned out justly so.
Classic Rock is a mag, I dib in and out of.
It was laughable at the beginning, I think the proof reader was pre-school, but it tackled things from an interesting angle and you felt that it was written by subjective fans.
It's demise in my eyes, coincided with Mick Wall's departure and I've never been a massive fan of his. He's a bit like a Heavy Metal version of Allllllllllllllan Jones.
It could however be that it's remit ran out of subjects and that's why it seemed so repetitive. The new band market was, and still probably is, well served.
I like women on the cover cd and I suspect we may now have religious conatations due to the church marketing ideas.
"demise in my eyes, coincided with Mick Wall's departure"
Wall era, that I read, was near perfect. The next editor was okay but the mag certainly wasn't as good. The next editor (who as far as I know is still their) has turned the magazine into boring porridge. I haven't bought a single issue in over a year.