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Mercury prize 1981

Andy Mackenzie's picture

Listening to Steve Lamacq this evening on 6 music. He was talking about the upcoming Mercury prize nominations. Apparently last year on his show he discussed which album would have won the Mercury if it had been around in 1980. Tomorrow he's inviting people's suggestions for who would have claimed the prize for 1981. Cracking idea I thought, so unable to wait till tomorrow I thought I'd ask the question here. What would have won the Mercury prize if it had been around in 1981?
For me it's got to be Dare by The Human league

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Some contenders...

The Sound - From The Lion's Mouth

Psychedelic Furs - Talk Talk Talk

Siouxsie and the Banshees - Juju

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doomah | 19 July 2011 - 12:16am

If you like that kind of 'Old'

I reckon you might like this 'New':

http://www.wordmagazine.co.uk/content/the-horrors-0

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Dr Volume | 19 July 2011 - 2:03am

I'm a fully paid up member

of the Horrors fan club. Best live band I've seen this year (so far) so I'm traversing the Pennines in October to see them again.

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doomah | 19 July 2011 - 1:47pm

A plea that will probably fall on deaf ideas

Why don't Word, the blog and Steve Lamacq actually do this, in real time, to compliment the 2011 competition?

We could have a jury of Word staffers, Word bloggers with music industry experience, and SL himself on the jury, who sit and announce at the same time as the Mercury Nationwide committee, using the same operational criteria.

Beforehand, Word bloggers (and perhaps others including genre music specialists to give it a broader spread) could submit items to the longlist before the final ten are announced.

There's a possibility that SL does something like this on his show anyway (I don't listen), but I think it would be great.

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Pax Romana | 20 July 2011 - 4:07pm
Dr Volume | 19 July 2011 - 2:00am

Oh, and also:

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Dr Volume | 19 July 2011 - 2:27am

OMD

IIRC, it was released in 82

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jackthebiscuit | 19 July 2011 - 8:03pm

nope...

...present from my first girlfriend, beautifully complimenting the 'music centre' from mum & dad, christmas 1981

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halibut | 20 July 2011 - 10:20pm

Sons and Fascination

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sourdust | 19 July 2011 - 2:30am

many good choices

so where is "heaven up here"?

what about "prayers on fire" by the birthday party?

both bands did better...and "sulk" didn't come out 'till 1982..

as far as the ethos of the mercury prize is concerned (tries very hard to be hip and not give the award to the ear pleasing platinum shippers) i have no reservations in saying "my life in the bush of ghosts" would have walked away with it ..

and i can think of a lot worse

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drilltime | 19 July 2011 - 2:39am

HUH is another top pick

But 'Bush' was 1980. Would have been one of the top contenders and hasn't aged a day in 30 years.

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sourdust | 19 July 2011 - 2:44am

A pedant writes

Isn't the norm with the MMP that it's awarded in late summer so the eligible records for the 2011 prize will have been released between last summer and this.
If (and I'm not saying you should, but) if you were following the same principle in 1981 then (for example) the eligible OMD album would be Organisation rather than Architecture and Morality.
And I could mention Motorhead's Ace Of Spades.
Oh, and according to Wiki the 25th anniversary edition of Eno's MLITBOG was released in April 2006, so it's definitely in either way. And yes, it's exactly the kind of record that would win.

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STD | 19 July 2011 - 7:01am

good point pedant

and by using those criterea "remain in light" now qualifies and cleans up on the night!!

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drilltime | 20 July 2011 - 2:20am

Tin Drum by Japan

and Trust by Elvis Costello

are maybes, but I feel it almost certainly would have been

East Side Story by Squeeze

Why? With its old wave chops, and new wave pedigree, I suspect it would have been the album least likely to split the jury. A lot of the artists listed are "marmite" acts, and Squeeze would have got through through on the second choice vote. I mean, who finds Squeeze objectionable?

What's more, it would have been less than two month's old by the time the jury sat, and that wouldn't have done it any harm.

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Pax Romana | 19 July 2011 - 2:36am

This thread

Is making me feel very old.

This is the year I left home and everything was exciting and fresh. East side Story and Trust were both on very heavy rotation, as was Wha'ppen by the Beat, but I reckon Tom Tom Club would have figured highly in any Mercury prize stylee competition. Not posting a clip as I'm on mobile broadband and it takes an age to load any!

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Neil Dyson | 19 July 2011 - 7:52am

Good calls...

...but wouldn't TTC be disbarred because they are an American band?

MLITBWG would probably be ok - isn't David Byrne actually Scottish by birth?

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Paul Waring | 19 July 2011 - 12:24pm

MLITBOG

would have been OK on the grounds that Eno is a Brit. The situation, if not the album, is comparable with the Robert Plant/Alison Krauss record that was nominated a couple of years back.

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StuartReeves | 19 July 2011 - 7:42pm

I would nominate

The Fall - Slates
The Pretenders - The Pretenders

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jimmyshoes01 | 19 July 2011 - 8:12am

Is there any love for

the wonderful "LC" by the Durutti Column?

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duco01 | 19 July 2011 - 9:03am

Rush - 'Moving Pictures'

Klassik. KKKKK

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Patrick Crowther | 19 July 2011 - 9:08am

But also made by foreigners

and therefore, sadly, ineligible (like Tom Tom Club above).

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Paul Waring | 19 July 2011 - 12:26pm

Oh....

I didn't know that.

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Patrick Crowther | 19 July 2011 - 7:35pm

Brits aside, only the foightin' Irish are allowed

so you could have nominated Moving Hearts' debut to generate some H Block shaped Daily-Mail-baiting controversy..

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STD | 19 July 2011 - 7:54pm

Au Pairs

Playing With A Different Sex

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Ahh_Bisto | 19 July 2011 - 2:22pm

Contenders

Brain Eno & David Byrne - My Life In The Bush Of Ghosts
Adam & The Ants - Prince Charming
Pretenders - Pretenders

Outside Bet:
Saxon - Denim & Leather

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Rigid Digit | 19 July 2011 - 7:51pm

As Usual

is the answer as usual

People, people - how many more times does the simple truth of this statement need to be elucidated?

I'm not around as much these days - so I really would thank you to remember, the simple statement:

As usual, the answer is David Bowie

Having been released in September 1980, Scary Monsters, the last great album he made in an unparalleled sequence of great albums starting with Hunky Dory would have qualified for the time period of the judging and would have been the hands down winner.

As usual

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Sheev | 19 July 2011 - 8:04pm

good call Sheev

My only quibble with your post would be to say that his great run started with "The man who sold the world".

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jackthebiscuit | 19 July 2011 - 8:07pm

good point

as usual

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Sheev | 19 July 2011 - 8:29pm

The Space Oddity LP 'oft' gets left out......

.....by 60s dodgers, I reckon.

(a) it's from the Golden Age, the 60s.
(b) it's got Wild Eyed Boy, Memory Of A Free Festival and.....erm.....Space Oddity on it.

David Bowie.
The 1970s.
Where did it all go wrong?
Oh, yeah, I answered it.
The 1970s.
It wasn't just you, Dave.

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ranger | 27 July 2011 - 12:44am

I think ...

Brain Eno & David Byrne - My Life In The Bush Of Ghosts would be fighting it out with Dare

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jackthebiscuit | 19 July 2011 - 8:05pm

Nightclubbing by Grace Jones

In 1981 it felt like it was beamed in from outer space. Still sounds fresh today.

If the Mercury prize rules apply then surely Sound Affects by the Jam has to be right up there as it was released november 1980.

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Johnny Topaz | 19 July 2011 - 8:11pm

Just realised ...

... she's not British. Stick with the Jam.

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Johnny Topaz | 19 July 2011 - 8:13pm

Edinburgh's Finest

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GunsOfBrixton | 19 July 2011 - 8:20pm

can't be

that's not josef k
whose debut "the only fun in town" probably would have been nominated..or won in a fair universe

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drilltime | 20 July 2011 - 2:24am

Non-Stop Erotic Cabaret

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Austin | 20 July 2011 - 6:05am

More Specials?

Probably wouldn't win as they wouldn't want a group to have back-to-back wins. Panel might be swayed by the godlike genius of Ghost Town at number 1 (30 years ago today!)

PS Ghost Town not on LP as any fule kno...

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pompeygeorge | 20 July 2011 - 8:25am

By 'eck

1981 was a good year, wasn't it?

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Paul Waring | 20 July 2011 - 8:38am

1981

is showing up the paucity of choice that we have this year, I'm desperately trying to remember anything as bad as Adele that could have snuck in there by virtue of selling a bit

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ian s | 20 July 2011 - 11:02pm

Heaven Up Here

..would have walked it. The Bunnymen's finest hour.

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Prestonia | 20 July 2011 - 11:12pm

Token jazz (funk) contender

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Jim M | 21 July 2011 - 12:15am

Token black artist

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Jim M | 21 July 2011 - 10:13am

More suggestions

UB40 - Present Arms (May 81)
Skids - The Absolute Game (Sept 80)


(Skids, Circus Games)

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STD | 21 July 2011 - 10:56am

Present Arms IN DUB!!

There's your left field suggestion. Judges would be all over some spaced out hard core dub reggae groove version of One in Ten performed by a young multicultural band from a deprived area of the industrial midlands. As a 40/1 outside, this is THE bet. Lump on.

Record and Tape Exchange on the Goldhawk Road always had shedloads of this record.

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Six Dog | 21 July 2011 - 12:11pm

Closer. Joy Division.

Debate closed.

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D.Green | 21 July 2011 - 12:13pm

And while we're on the subject of British reggae acts,

this was a pretty decent album:

Aswad - New Chapter (1981)

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duco01 | 21 July 2011 - 12:18pm

And another British reggae album (see Present Arms above)...

...that had a great Dub version issued later (New Chapter in Dub, natch).

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Paul Waring | 21 July 2011 - 1:30pm

Token classical act

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Jim M | 21 July 2011 - 12:30pm

Ah

Another charity shop stalwart.

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Brookster | 21 July 2011 - 1:21pm

So

Are we just going to wait until next year when Steve Lamacq gives us permission to do the 1982 shortlist?
It was such a good year that I, for one, can't wait. Check out these for openers:

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STD | 24 July 2011 - 7:36am
sourdust | 27 July 2011 - 12:25am

"sulk" wins

then "you can't hide your love forever"
see also "pornography", "a kiss in the dreamhouse"..
so many great bands made their greatest records in 1982..as evident from the above posts..

if anything an even better year..post-punk's (second)last hurrah..

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drilltime | 27 July 2011 - 1:10am

Mercury Music Prize 1969

Quicksilver Messenger Service would have been a shoo-in.

I'll get me poncho....

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mojoworking | 6 September 2011 - 12:34pm

Mercury Music Prize 1695

Henry Purcell's "Music for the Funeral of Queen Mary" would have been a shoo-in.

I'll get me tabard...

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duco01 | 6 September 2011 - 12:48pm

Mercury Music Prize 1982

Klaus Nomi's "A Simple Man" would have been a shoo-in.

I'll get me thigh-high snakeskin boots...

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Pax Romana | 6 September 2011 - 2:14pm
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