Mercury Nominations are in...
Adele - '19'
British Sea Power - 'Do You Like Rock Music?'
Burial - 'Untrue'
Elbow - 'The Seldom Seen Kid'
Estelle - 'Shine'
The Last Shadow Puppets - 'The Age Of The Understatement'
Laura Marling - 'Alas I Cannot Swim'
Neon Neon - 'Stainless Style'
Portico Quartet - 'Knee-Deep In The North Sea'
Robert Plant And Alison Krauss – 'Raising Sand'
Radiohead - 'In Rainbows'
Rachel Unthank And The Winterset – 'The Bairns'
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Adele - '19' (it was either
Adele - '19'
(it was either that or Duffy - they wouldn't put both in)
British Sea Power - 'Do You Like Rock Music?'
(yes, but not yours, you owl-bothering scout types, you)
Burial - 'Untrue'
(Hmm, yes, mmm, like, totally amazin')
Elbow - 'The Seldom Seen Kid'
(Should win)
Estelle - 'Shine'
(she was just born to be bunged into these sort of things. I'm thrilled she avoided the dumper, but hey - perspective everyone!)
The Last Shadow Puppets - 'The Age Of The Understatement'
(ace, but no winner)
Laura Marling - 'Alas I Cannot Swim'
(a dark horse)
Neon Neon - 'Stainless Style'
(amazing. won't win though)
Portico Quartet - 'Knee-Deep In The North Sea'
(not heard, but won't win)
Robert Plant And Alison Krauss – 'Raising Sand'
(Terrific, but unsure it'll snap up the statuette)
Radiohead - 'In Rainbows'
(It was free, it revolutionised the industry, dismantled music, opened up the doorzzzz etc. I think it'll win)
Rachel Unthank And The Winterset – 'The Bairns'
(Great, but an Ice cream/ Hell situation)
Where?
Portishead
Goldfrapp
PJ Harvey
Missing the point
Surely we just choose the one no one wants to hear from again give them the prize and watch them sink without a trace. look what happned to Portishead their nomination hulled them good and proper, they spent years clinging to a raft made of their own gloom and bad blood lashed together with their angst and only washed ashore this year for another bout of churlish moaning.
The pixie in me wants to say Radiohead.
You should write the great Portished novel.
Good one. And you are dead right.
The one that should win...
...is "Burial".
I was listening to that the other day and thinking, the interesting thing about this is that, unlike most modern records, it couldn't have been made 10, 20, 30 or 40 years ago. Nearly everything else on that list could have been done before.
O god,,,,,
This is deeply disturbing. I own 5 already. Does this mean I am cutting edge.........?
For the record:
Adele: claptrap. Anyone want it? (Present for Mrs Path, honest)
Burial: no doubt worthy but a little, um, challenging, for me, except the 2nd track, with the vocal, which is simply godawful.
Elbow: fabulous! My intro to them, having resisted until it became inevitable.
Plant/Krauss: great great stuff but less of the reverence as it isn't quite as good as the critics might say, being dull in parts.
Unthank: hard work, frankly, possibly worth the effort for some of the songs, but generally a bit too austere for me.
More Burial
Surprised you find it hard going. It's the most played record of last year in my house and in the Word office.
Me too
I think I can safely say that the Mercury Prize has jumped the shark.
That is the only explanation for the fact that I also own five of these:
(And I have a Natiowide mortgage, so perhaps I should declare an interest...)
Marling
should get it; great songwriting, irresistible melodies, little or no financial backing and won't give a toss if she does or doesn't, which is exactly as it should be. Agree with someone above that she's a dark horse, but definitely in the Red Rum category.
Radiohead? Oh purleaze...
I only own 3
so not as cutting edge as Retro.
Elbow is already my album of the year and I dont think that is likely to change unless something astounding comes along because it is probably my album of the last 2 or 3 years it really is that good.
Agree with Retro that Krauss and Plant is okay but a little overrated.
Bought Unthank on strength of some comments posted here.I would describe it as an acquired taste - some nice tunes but my wifes comments were 'if i have to listen to this much longer i will end up slashing my wrists' - for devilment i toyed with pressing the repeat button.
As an aside...
I've now realised that it was luck rather than judgement that led to me put 'Mercury' rather than the full title that I believed the award to have until a few minutes ago, the 'Mercury Music Prize'.
Apparently, it's actually the 'Nationwide Mercury Prize' and has been since 2004, not that I'd noticed.
Frankly, I think this says something hugely important (or possibly quite remarkably trivial; who can tell?) about sponsorship. I understand that The Word and other meeja organisations are probably obliged to give the full, silly names of things for reasons of diplomacy and future access, but for the man and woman in the street, would you ever call it the 'Nationwide Mercury Prize'?
It would be like referring to the Labatt's Apollo, when what you really mean is the Hammy O...
I recall
It was originally sponsored by Mercury who disappeared into T-Mobile but they kept the name. So the new sponsors get to sponsor the Mercury Award. I think.
It's a bit like the World Series in baseball.
I too have 5 and I'm
I too have 5 and I'm definitely not cutting edge.
Adele - '19' - not great. Got it out of curiousity on eMusic. A couple of half decent songs.
British Sea Power - 'Do You Like Rock Music?' - good but still able to resist the BSP. Not sure why (but the singer isn't great which may be the main reason).
Burial - 'Untrue' - interesting and impressive. Love the feel of it. But not a regular thing to play - just a little too dark.
Elbow - 'The Seldom Seen Kid' - Wonderous. Suggest BSP have a listen and fire their singer. And write lyrics like this. And arrange their songs rather than play all the instruments at the same time.
Radiohead - 'In Rainbows' - its ok. Good value (I paid £2.49). Don't ask but I though that was a reasonable return to them.
So in short I'd plump for Elbow but can see why Burial could be the other choice.
How not to win friends and influence Word people
Elobow - for me a bit dull. A few good tracks. A bit like The Doves on mogadon or something.
Radiohead 'In Rainbows'- fantastic. Album of the noughties surely to goodness.
Sven will you learn
Elbow is far more upbeat than any Radiohead lp.
One Day Like This
Is one of the most uplifting pop songs I've heard in a long while. Upbeat in a careworn way (if feasible - not sure TBH).
Yeah
but I was talking about Elobow. Yes I should have seen that comment coming really. Didn't think it through. Well that Radiohead album is very uplifting to me but not upbeat so much that is true. Lyrically Elbow are good I'll give you that but somewhat still plodding along in the vein of the rather worn out familiar epic indie style. Whereas Radiohead are really more of now on In Rainbows. I wonder if Burial are maybe too much of now to endure. I should probably bother to listen to the whole album before suggesting such a thing though, rather than commenting on the basis of one song on a Word CD - which I do like.
Burial: The "if they win" dilemma
Uber: brilliant stuff, knew it would win
Uber duber do; unlistenable claptrap.
(Absolutely no correlation should be drawn towards views given here already by others, I am merely offering myself a shortened re-appraisal should they win the Roni Size (rhyming slang))
Alternatively, David and Leeds, I could give it another listen....
Shirley Elbow by a mile....
if there is any justice or it is not fixed,although I always think these things are on some level (back scratching going on behind corporate scenes).
Percy & Alison could get the sentimental vote though. I obviously just do not get Burial at all, to me it makes Portishead sound like The Carpenters...but hey what do i know.
To be frank....
How the hell do the record company mutual back scratchers come up with these lists?
Adele but not Duffy?
You can sniff the "tokenism" a mile away.
Radiohead out of those should win but won't. "Mainstream" acts have won too many recently.
A victory this time for the Roni Size/Talvin Singh template this year.
For me...
...it should be Elbow or Krauss/Plant, but I'd put money on Radiohead winning (despite me not yet being sold on that album, to be honest!).
Don't know Burial, I have to say.
Examining again
I appear to have ten of these albums. Cripes
To be fair...
...I don't think Roni Size is in the same league as Burial.
Pah!
New Forms was as equally `new sounding' and forward looking then as Burial's album is now. The best of New Forms still stands up now.
Accrued worthiness
Radiohead will win in a `Scorsese wins for The Departed' scenario, i.e. they've done better stuff before and not won, so we better give it to them now just in case the next one is crap.
Personally I wouldn't have a problem with that as In Rainbows is one of the three or four most deserving on that list, alongside Elbow and Burial.
Of the six I have
I would say Plant/Kraus got the most listened to. Radiohead a close second and Elbow a close third. I like the Burial album but haven't listened to it enough to rave about it onw way or another. Last Shadow Puppets I haven't listened to much but I do like it. I think I'd give it to Plant/Kraus but I think these five are all deserving. BSP - listened to it a few times and can't remember a thing off it making it 'forgettable' I guess.
percy and allison
will win it, not out of sentimentality as suggested above, but because it passed the true test of listening in our shack. I bought it because all my mates had it and raved, I played it a few times and put it on i-pod and gave it 'yeah it's ok oh-hum" sort of reaction. Since then everytime a different tune from it pops up, Maggie (my far superior better half) says "Who's this?? This is not bad." This is always the sign of a top tune and true winner. It works everytime and has never failed. Burial on the other hand got a rolling eyes "depressing and boring" look over the top of her book. That Elbow noisy bit on "Starlings" drew a withering "that just ruined a decent tune" look. I'm telling you this is a tried and true, never fails method!!
Am I wrong
not to give a toss?
Not wrong
Just wise...me too. Theres so much more out there to think about than industry lists. However it did introduce me to Antony Hegarty and Seth Lakeman. I just wish the bulk of the nominees were not so familiar
Portico Quartet
Their album is astonishing, really, genuinely great, I can't stop listening to it. But if they did win it then every Nathan Barley in Hockney will be banging on about them.
Grumble, grumble, I was listening to Pulp before they were famous, etc,
Portico on e music.....
....Pop pickers!
Burial is on eMusic
so you can try it for less than £3 if you already subscribe.
as is
everything by Elbow bar Seldom Seen Kid (and its all good).
Not much you can dance to on that list....
just an observation, but I'm sure in previous years there has been something that's got the old toe tapping.....
If..
Adele wins it I will eat my hat.
Oh, it looks as though she's beaten me to it.
(Sorry, larger lady quip, hangs head in shame, leaves room, plays Radiohead as penance).
You..
must have hade a large, deep fried hat at that.
yes
it was covered in chocolate and had bubblegum in the centre. Like the music of Adele, it left a nasty taste in the mouth. And a horible sound in the ears.
For every worthy winner
there's a Gomez, Ms Dynamite and M People
I can't remember...
...whether it's this year we're due a winner that we've all heard of or a winner who's really obscure. I'm sure I wasn't the only person who'd never heard of Antony & the Johnsons the year that he won.
Blimey
...I've got 8 of those already. I'm either surfing the zeitgeist, or slavishly following the recommendations of opinion-formers. Or maybe the shortlist was drawn up by people of near-immaculate taste (we'll draw a discreet veil over the taste-lapse of Adele and Estelle). Yes, I think I'll go with that last option. If it's a "people you've heard of" year, then I reckon Elbow. If they're playing the obscurity card, then Burial. Both equally wonderful, in their different ways.
Is everyone still buying whole CD's
Surely we have just downloaded choice tracks and not bought the whole CD (filler included)off all artists...
Oh good. Phew.
I thought it was just me. They all sound a tad tuneless to the occupants of G Towers. Like 12 collections of b-sides. Has pop died and nobody bothered to tell me?
Turner Prize
The Last Shadow Puppets get my vote out of that list. It's a great old fashioned pop album.
Have only heard...
... 3 of them and none of them were spectacular.
Probably won't bother with the other 7 either.
Yes, I'm in a grumpy mood to-day.
Aren't Elbow..
...that lot that sound like The Icicle Works?
2 out of 12 (sounds like one of the Borg) must do better...
Yes
on paper the Puppet boys are a perfect pop group what with their Merseybeat affectations and their 'Please Please Me' references. When I read about them I was moderately excited and went in search of their myspace. Alas, when I actually heard them I was shocked to discover that the singer couldn't carry a tune. ( Not even these lightweight ones ).
Very very typical Mercury list...
...ticking all the boxes and filling up all the usual Mercury slots...
Adele - '19' - The one who's been being plugged like crazy all over the media...
British Sea Power - 'Do You Like Rock Music?' - the standard, "credible" tabloid indie option
Burial - 'Untrue' - one for those dancy, clubby types
Elbow - 'The Seldom Seen Kid' - occupying the mainstrean, chart-friendly indie slot. This slot has a little brass plaque on it reading "This nomination kindly donated by Coldplay"
Estelle - 'Shine' - Token souly pop act who doesn't stand a chance of winning (this nomination sponsored by the Sugarbabes)
The Last Shadow Puppets - 'The Age Of The Understatement' - standard alternative to the BSP nomination but with a wee bit more edge and a built in "story" attached... "Ooh, a previous winner's solo project... that's good for at least two column inches..."
Laura Marling - 'Alas I Cannot Swim' - cookie cutter mainstream folkie/singer-songwriter nomination. Included as a foil to...
Rachel Unthank And The Winterset – 'The Bairns' - one for the REAL folkies to tug their beards along to. Clearly Ms Polwart and Ms Rusby were unavailable this year.
Neon Neon - 'Stainless Style' - another sop to the ones waving their glowsticks in the air
Portico Quartet - 'Knee-Deep In The North Sea' - token acceptable jazzers, don't stand a hope!
Robert Plant And Alison Krauss – 'Raising Sand' - Hello. Have. You. Had. Your. Tea? Yes? Yes. It's a prize! The Mercury Prize! Yes! Have you had your nap yet? Well just go sit over there next to that nice Mr Sumner, old Mrs Lennox and Mr Costello. Yes. That's right. Yes. Supper in a minute, dear. Yes...
Radiohead - 'In Rainbows' - Taking the established but still credible slot. File under "Pink Floyd"
Or am I just being too cynical about the way that these lists look every single year? Hmm... methinks not!
Trevor,
have you listened to the Marling album? Really listened to it? If it's cookie-cutter, they're damn good cookies. Most unfair appraisal, methinks and on that basis, can you not just apply the same phrase to everyone on the list;
Adele - cookie-cutter mainstream Anal Winehouse copyist.
Burial - cookie cutter wildly-off-tangent new beats copyist.
Radiohead - cookie cutter Radiohead copyist.
Frankly, my good man, I expected more from you. Or was it just a bad day?
Hey there Monsieur L'Oeuf...
...need to remember that the comments did not in ANY way relate to the content of any of the albums (many of which I like, some of which aren't to my personal taste - the Marling one is indeed a very pleasant album) or their relative merits - or even, indeed whether they deserve to be on the list or not!!!
It's purely a comment in relation to the Panel seemingly filling their notional slot allocations - the cookie cutter is the slot and the style allocation, not the yummy dough mix!!
That is to say, there always seems to be an artist of that type filling a slot, just as there's always a "Rock's Elder Statesman" slot, a couple of Dance slots (one a bit cutting-edge, one more mainstrean/clubby), a World/Jazz slot, an R'n'B slot - this year it could've maybe been Heidi Talbot if she'd been receiving some press plugging, could've been Beth Rowley, could've been Nerina Pallot (if she's released an album this year) - in terms of style not content I once again emphasise.
It's often seemed to me that the choice of the Mercury Panel is very much guided by some notion of genre-led positive discrimination. You know, "Well, we're got Adele and Laura Marlin on there so there's no room for Duffy too. That would mean we'd need to bump one of the indies or the token jazzer off the list..."
I guess it's the predictability which all adds up to me not caring who's nominated or who wins the Mercury. Perhaps it's partly down to the Mercurys putting all their Oeufs (ouch!) in one twelve egg basket - at least the Brits (et similar) has enough categories that genres can fight it out among themselves leaving less of a genre-based bunfight for the "Best Actor" and "Best Picture" awards.
Cynical and jaded? I doubt I care who wins enough to muster up even those emotions about the Mercurys...
Well replied
Mr. Raggatt; I retract my hackles.
Disappointed you didn't comment on my Radiohead line though...
In truth, I couldn't give a toss either. But I want to.
I want there to be a genuinely decent, well prepared and valid awards system that raises the profile of music. Unfortunately, the commerciality of the process ruins it for anyone half-interested or decent. Still, it passes an hour or two when I'm supposed to be working...
I didn't comment...
...but I did smile, nay, chuckle!
Jazz
Isn't there usually a token jazz act, who also don't have a hope of winning?
Oh yes you are!
Most of these albums were generously praised upon release - in the pages of Word as much as anywhere else. What are they supposed to do? Nominate albums nobody (save a few loyal fans) liked? Let's face it, you could execute exactly the same sour-faced reductionist exercise on any other 12 moderately well-received albums from the past 12 months.
Ah...
but the point about the 'usual Mercury slots' is well made, surely?
One big name, couple of indie, some R&B (in the current sense), the heavy electronica/dance pick, couple of folkies and a bit of jazz.
Stir thoroughly and award prize to this year's deserving category.
Last two years it's been the Klaxons and the Arctic Monkeys so you can safely say BSP won't win. Recent wins for Dizzee Rascal and Ms Dynamite will probably put the mockers on Estelle and possibly Adele, and the big big name never wins so that's Radiohead ruled out.
Smart money has to be on Elbow.
Oh,
sure, the "token folk album" and "token jazz album", and so forth, is a well-established part of the Mercury Shortlist formula. I think I was just bridling at the amount of sneering I've detected on this thread towards what is, by and large, a fine clutch of albums. In my opinion, of course, though it seems to be fairly congruent with critical opinion. Whatever THAT's worth...
It's also worth reiterating the point that including a token folkie and token jazzer gives some welcome publicity to at least one album each from a couple of genres often overlooked outside their own specialist awards.
It's all just an industry publicity exercise, anyway, so at least the spotlight might as well fall on a few decent albums.
Agree with you...
I've got six of the albums listed and love them all. And occasionally I've followed up on an obscure nominee and benefitted as a result.
Personal taste aside, there's never any real clunkers in there (M People excepted!)
Take it for what it is (the industry publicity exercise) and all will be fine.
Oh yes... no comments on the albums themselves...
...or their musical merits just on the selectors sticking rigidly to a well worn formula!
Raising Sand was one of my faves of last year and there are many others there which I like and admire.
Curious what was on past lists
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercury_Music_Prize
Previous nominees include Robbie Williams, The Spice Girls, Simply Red, Sting, Take That, The Darkness and Mark Morrison. Oh dear. Interesting to see some of the previous acts who are now disappearing into obscurity - 4 Hero, Propellerheads.
thats not a whiff
of rock snobbery at play there sven?
Don't think so.
I'd forgotten that most of those particular acts (I don't mean Propellerheads or 4Hero) were short-listed. It's unbelievable, I mean I know they would have wanted some with big audiences, I understand why, but really, those ones?! Are you suggesting there is merit in any of those sufficient to deserve an award for music? Oh and The Darkness - a rock band were they not? Now that was an aberration - I recall people really rated them for one mad week back in 2002 or whenever.
I see non-rock music as having just as much merit as rock. To do otherwise is foolish. What I choose to listen to and what I know or understand to be of great quality is not necessarly the same thing.
Don't forget, the Darkness were the official saviours of rock...
...during that one mad week in 2002. Oh how we laughed!
Propellerheads
The fact that Propellerheads are yet to release an album since their Mercury nominated debut may explain their disapearance into obscurity.
I have to say...
...I never really saw what the point of the Mercury Music Prize was anyway. This year's list is better than last year's though that's not hard- The View were on last year's final list, for goodness' sake!
would I be being terrifically arsey
if I pointed that the first Burial album was much better than the (admittedly still very good) second one?
On another pedantic point, what are the actual criteria for entry? I thought one had to be British, which makes me wonder about the Alison Krauss part of that duet album. Is Plant's West Midlandsness considered to trump Ms Krauss's nationality, and if so what does that say about the judges' view on the balance of the collaboration? If the prize is indeed open to colonials it's a shame not to see Nick Cave there on the strength of his best album in what? fifteen? years.
Real folkies
hate the Unthanks don't they? See them as the folk equivelant of Girls Aloud with their major distribution deal and shiny happy faces. Much bitterness and nashing of teeth when they won at the BBC Folk awards. Seen em a couple of times live and they were aces. Though this has meant I've agreed with Paul Morley on something, so its not all good.
But, yes, a tick all the genre boxes list as per. I likes the Unthank, Radiohead, Puppets n Elbow. So on past evidence none of them will win.
Must agree it helps bring some attention to the lesser known nominees which is how I discovered the rather wonderful kathryn Williams all those years ago. So i might give this Burial lot a try
Folk purists can go jump
... however I question wether they are in fact folk at all. If she wasn't singing in dialect half the time I don't think they would be categorised so easily. The piano isn't, technically, a folk instrument and there's precious few accordions, whistles and the like plus the violins are played more like classical strings than folk fiddles.
What an odd pair o' posts.
What the folk is a folk purist? I would personally think the Unthanks fall entirely into a bunker of pure and unadulterated traditionally derived folk music, all but stripped of commercial sensibilities appealing to non specialist palates. Maybe you mean folk enthusiasts, who will attend Cambridge year in year out to see many an impure act. I love folk music in its broadest sense, and have bought the CD above. I like it but find it a touch too intense and severe for my lightweight ears: file alonsgside Dick Gaughan and Martin Carthy, much of whose content I love, but some of which is just too much.
What is, pray, technically, a folk instrument?
(Sorry, I know this will arise some ire, but I guess this underlines the tyranny of genres)
Folk Instruments
The two offical (found on the Offical Instruments of Folk website) folk instruments are a stick and a hat.
My only reasoning for
My only reasoning for doubting that the 'folk police' didn't like the Unthanks was when I first heard of them I went online to find out more and often encountered some very sniffy and also vitriolic posts about them on messageboards. Just smacked of snobbery. Think it was discussed here
http://www.salutlive.com/2008/02/rachel-unthank.html
Will be interesting to see how their sound changes with the departure of Belinda O'Hooley n her wonderful keyboard arrangements. she was also a v funny n dry sit down comedian when I saw here with the band.
Salutlive
Good looking site. Not heard of Mudcat either....
Folk Police?
Healthy debate and discussion comes from folky people conserving what they value, thats all. Folk music, is at heart, the peoples music. Essentially a heritage of song passed through generations with a peppering of new material along the way - one of its biggest authors is "Anon". The folk tradition is shared, inclusive and one of the biggest participative musical genres you can find (goto any festival and will find headline acts in the workshop tents). With participation comes a little protection. And folky peoples debates are pretty tame when compared to rock n pop debates....Jay Z for Glastonbury anyone?
There is a view that there is currently a smattering of 'folk beauties' to improve marketing and expand a wider audience (Word Magazine see Seth Lake.yawwwwwwnnnn..man again) and Unthank is one of them probably...aside from her musical talents...
Folk Da Police?
How about a cross genre militant folk rap thing? Maybe not....
Folk instruments
Fiddles, guitars, banjos, squeezeboxes etc. Basically anything that can be cheaply made by ordinary folk. In the deep south a hundred years ago the sharecroppers used to play on string instruments made out of cigar boxes, combs and tissue paper and washboards.
Pianos, clarinets, and such like were much more expensive to make and so in the past were used primarily for classical music.
Instruments define a genre as much as anything else. You'll rarely hear funk without a bassist, punk without a guitarist, calyspo without a steel drum or bluegrass without a mandolin.
You shouldn't decide what is good and what isn't just because of what section it's in in HMV and I despise the purists as much as anyone, but genre is just a way of classifying music, and given the sheer amount of the stuff out there it's a jolly useful system.
How anyone can compare
Elbow to Coldplay is frankly beyond me. The standard of Elbows lyricism is stunning - poetic, beautiful and literate. It is too good for the masses quite frankly so I hope their next cd stiffs.
Can I just say that if the judges vote for Radiohead they dont know their arse from their Elbow???
Sorry - I think I will go for a lie down.
What is the qualification period for this ?
Does the qualification period run from July 1st 2007 - June 30th 2008 ?
Love Elbow but where is Paul Weller ? Easily his best solo album and up there as a candidate for album of the year.
What about Cherry Ghost , do they count for this year or last ? Released on 9 Jul 2007.
Hmm
Would love Elbow to win, and not just because Guy Garvey is possibly the nicest man I've ever met; also because the album is heartfelt, beautiful, melodic, crafted, self-made and their first sine being dropped by their record label. Ticks a lot of boxes for me.
Mind, Alex Turner (or 'Tuner', as The Guardian would have it) was very pleasant at Glastonbury when he politely enquired if I had about my person "a big Rizla". Thing is, when I had rushed to check out yon album on the back of mildly hysterical reviews, I found a rather shallow bowl of disappointment. I'm glad Ver Kids like such classic sounds – but just because my six-year-old likes Vermeer doesn't mean she can paint like him.
Also heartened to see Neon Neon applauded for making what sounds like a frankly awful idea come to glorious technicolor life. Still think Radiohead will win it though, unless the judges are being deliberately contrary, which can never be ruled out.
Must be Radiohead
Thought In Rainbows was good, with Weird Fishes/Arpeggi my favourite, until I saw the band at Victoria Park, Hackney. Then I realised it was great. It's not rock'n'roll, but it's rock music of incredible beauty, fragility... and power. The amazing lights just made it more extraordinary. There is no-one else like Radiohead - before or now. Of course they'll have had influences, but it's trite to say they sound like Pink Floyd or anyone else. They are one of the few bands who are utterly distinctive, and In Rainbows is like nothing anyone else has done.
If it was a single song though, I'd be tempted to go for "Through the Morning through the Night" by Robert Plant and Alison Krauss. Pure country heartbreak.
Just for clarification...
...the post doesn't say that the 'Head SOUND like the Floyd... they patently don't. It's saying that they RANK ALONGSIDE the Floyd in the mind of the Mercury Panel - de facto elder statesmen... Stature not Sound: Position not Product. One could have as easily chosen, say, U2, the Police (if they'd produced an album to accompany the tour dates) or, were they eligible, REM or Crowded House.
Similarly the comments elswhere re are Elbow more talented than Coldplay... maybe/maybe not [delete as per personal opinion] but they certainly occupy a similar demographic slot.
Maybe the view expressed in my post is a wee bit cynical but, frankly, the recent Mercury nominations do fall far to easily into category filling mode. I do wish that the short list really did just reflect the 12 "best" albums released last year - and if that meant the list happened to be 10 soulful female singers and 2 indie bands or 8 nu-folk combos, an avant-garde jazz artist and three dub-step albums or 6 jazz acts and 6 metal bands or 12 indie guitar bands or 12 former Pop Idol/X-Factor contestants or a completely randon selection of styles... brilliant! If they happened to be the 12 "best" British albums of the year. It's the "Here's the folk slot, here's the jazz slot, here's the R'n'B slot" cookie cutter thing which so smacks of tokenism. So what if one year Kathryn Williams, Seth Lakeman, Kate Rusby, Martin Carthy, the Watersons, Wapweasel, Fairport Convention, Capercaillie and Kathryn Tickell all release truly sublime albums while, say, the indie crowd churn out a range of pedestrian, heard-it-all-before product? Is only one folkie still allowed to be nominated because after all, there are the three or four indie band, two dance artist and an R'n'B slots still to be filled?
I cannot bear
the cynicism and sceptism that comes with the announcement of the Mercury nominees every single year. Call me naiive, but I truly believe that the shortlist is just what it is claimed to be: A list that attempts to identify the best British albums of the last twelve months across a range of genres.
The fact is, just about everyone can look at the list of nominees this year and find albums they like, albums they don't like, and albums they've never heard of (or, at least, never heard). Every year, most people will say 'I'm glad they were nominated', 'Can't believe they were nominated', 'can't believe they WEREN'T nominated', and 'ooh, must check them out'. And that's exactly as it should be.
In September, some people will sit down and pick one of the albums from that list to be the winner. And that part is largely irrelevant, except in terms of record sales for that artist.
But to me, the shortlist represents a fine snapshot of British music over the last twelve months, and is, in genral, a list Britain can be proud of.
Hear hear
A snapshot, yes, I like that. I may not like everything included in the frame, but the very fact that this amount of interest has been engendered, with this volume of bloggery, can only be good for music. I will gleefully accept a degree of tokenism if it offers the opportunity for folkers and jazzers to be glimpsed above the parapet from time to time. The Unthanks are not my entire cup of tea, but praise the Lord they are there to be counted. I would similarly shout hoorah for Bellowhead or Chris Wood, but wouldn't necessarily fall over headlong for their music. (Now Martin Simpson, that would have been a good choice!)
Having coincidentally only heard of the Portico Quartet days ahead of the shortlist, and, yes, of course it was in these pages, you can bet your bottom dollar I will be taking their name to my local dealer of shiny plastic. (Or whatever CDs are made of)
To paraphrase the Eurythmics: CDs
are made of thees (Mexican accent...)
http://www.epa.gov/osw/students/finalposter.pdf
Hi. Me again.
I actually care even less now. As if that were possible.
For me.....
it's Elbow, I love the album. Was introduced to it by the Word massive so thanks for that! Will give Burial another listen!
Tough choice...
My heart would say Elbow and for me their album is all the better for having seen them at Glastonbury - it brought a lump to my throat and tears to my cheeks.
That said, Radiohead's album is a real tour de force - as well crafted in its way, but perhaps more of a technical than an emotional feat.
Depends whether the judges vote with their hearts or their 'Heads!
A good but predictable list
I surprised myself by loving both the Shadow Puppets and Neon Neon - they're both side projects from other acts looking to the past for inspiration, but both work really well through enthusiasm and a lack of guile. Neither has a chance though. I also unexpectedly love the Duffy album, so it was a shame to see it bumped by the charisma-free droner Adele. Estelle leaps out as complete tokenism to avoid an all-white line-up as it's a bloody awful record.
Common sense tells me it'll be Elbow on the night (because it's the best album), but the judges might not be able to resist Radiohead for all the other reasons. However, Plant & Krauss might be their best chance ever of giving it to a "country" album without it being seen as (that word again) tokenism. Mind you, if I can get good odds I'll be putting a sly bet on Burial (who won't care if he wins and invokes The Curse Of The Mercurys as no-one knows who he is anyway, and certainly won't turn up to the ceremony...)
And actually I think the awards are great, because at least it gets people talking about the quality of music rather than just sales - or do we think the Brits fulfills that function adequately...?
Giving it to Elbow
would seem like tokenism to me - it's not their best album; it'd be like scrabbling around for an excuse to give Scorsese an Oscar.
I'd like Laura Marling to win. It's a lovely record and she was tremendous at Glastonbury and still - what? - 18? Astounding.
Think it'll be Burial, mind you. Or Radiohead.
Or one of the others.
TYPICALLY BORING
Get rid of the panel and let us the 'GREAT BRITISH PUBLIC' nominate. Nationwide would create added interest for its website and financial products.
Just remember that MERCURY was the alternative to BT created by Thatcherism and Cable & Wireless. Their only acheivement was to rip-up our roads with ineffective reinstatement of pavements and residential streets.They vanished when the business sector they hoped to attract realised they offered a crap product.
Something that the above list might indicate in time. Only the Plant/Krauss album is a worthy candidate - it's even better when performed 'LIVE'. However, should a Yank win a share in an award designed to recognise British product. Oh well it worked for Anthony and the Johnsons!
But,
With the great public numbers, comes great public ignorance. It was the British public who got Crazy Frog to Number 1...
Damn right!
Predictable though "Panel Of Experts" awards like the Mercuries may be, their predictability is AS NOTHING compared to the lowest-common-denominator bilge that comes up trumps in awards decided by the great unwashed (or by commerce). Cultural/musical snob? Me? Ohhhh yes!
Retro - get thee the back-catalogue!
"Elbow: fabulous! My intro to them, having resisted until it became inevitable."
You don't know what you're missing Retro! Every album has raised the bar just a little higher - one of the few modern and relatively well known acts to do so.
Guy Garvey's voice + Guy Garvey's lyrics + Elbow's sonic mastery = best album this year.
Although also loving the distallate of The Bends, OK Computer and Hail to Thief that is In Rainbows.
The rest of the list, whilst worthy, come under the heading of "so so" in my book.
Elbow back catalogue is on emusic
Which means you can have them all for less than the price of a high street cd.
Ta for that
Looks like my 40 tracks will be that way headed on 12/8/08.
Makes a change from some of the Arse I occasionally buy in chance.
Elbow, please
Long, long, long overdue. They are jaw-droppingly brilliant, and this album runs neck and neck with Cast of Thousands as their masterpiece, imho. Failing that, then BSP, I suppose. Radiohead would be nice, too. Laura Marling - overrated. Plant and Krauss? Pleasant enough. Rachel Unthank? Like nails down a blackboard; would rather stick needles in eyes, etc., etc.
Haven't heard the others.
Estelle? Adele? I thought this was the Mercury prize showcasing innovation, not the bleedin' Brit Awards!