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Math rock. WTF?

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So I was out last night and the talk in the pub got round to stuff we'd been listening to.

One guy who I'd never met before suddenly came out with Youthmovie Soundtrack Strategies and proceeded to tell us they are part of the math rock movement.

I've done a bit of looking up on wikipedia and I'm still none the wiser and am not sure if I've missed out on something. Have I?

More to the point, is this the most bizarre genre of music out there? Other suggestions welcome...

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Well you could start here

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Heavy_metal_subgenres

and follow your nose. Then you start looking at the band names. Oh dear.

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Doods | 5 November 2009 - 2:08pm

ATP

a couple of years ago was a Mathrock paradise -- for those who like Mathrock. Youthmovies were there, plus Battles, who are also considered Mathrock. I have to say, though, I didn't see much commonality between the two, apart from their spectacles, an earnest approach and an obvious musicianship, so I left no more able to define Mathrock than I was when I went in.

They are definitely more boring than Post Rock bands, though, that much I did notice -- and infinitely less exciting than Post Metal.

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Albert Edward | 5 November 2009 - 2:10pm

Battles

Seemed, at the time, to be the ultimate in Math Rock...really quite good and this is a great video.


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Paul Thompson | 6 November 2009 - 12:44am

They are fantastic

but then they GROOVE which is not a very math-rock thing to do!

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Joe Muggs | 6 November 2009 - 9:35am

You gotta love any band that has a drummer in a sweater

It's only just struck me how glamtastic Atlas is.

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TedLoaf | 6 November 2009 - 10:16am

That particular one

was insanely good live.

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Albert Edward | 6 November 2009 - 11:59am
stimpy | 5 November 2009 - 2:21pm

65daysofstatic

are also considered by some to be a Math Rock band. I only discovered this recently, having previously described them to anyone who would listen as an instrumental guitar-bass-drums band with glitchy electronica bits. In other words, a lot like Post-rock but a bit less spacey and a bit more arty.

I remain confused and frustrated by genre terminology.

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Malcolm H | 5 November 2009 - 2:40pm

NME

proclaimed Foals as the leaders of Math rock when they first appeared. Still none the wiser on what it is but if Foals were its leaders I won't lose sleep over it.

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mdavies27 | 5 November 2009 - 2:40pm

I have a maths degree

but at no point was it discussed what math-rock is.

Shame...

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Joe R | 5 November 2009 - 2:45pm

then ye've got yer

ROI - Rock in Opposition, wtf!?

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James Blast | 5 November 2009 - 3:01pm

Mathrock

Been around a while. Replace any groove with itchy & scratchy synth/guitar workouts. Get a fringe, tight jeans and a sleeveless t-shirt. Be sh*te.

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TedLoaf | 5 November 2009 - 3:35pm

Glad to see

that no-one else seems to have a clue what it is, either.

According to the wikipedia article I referenced above, the likes of Zappa and Yes were great influences on math rock. Not sure if that's a good thing or not.

What baffles me is, are we so devoid of musical ideas that we have to count beats specifically?

Eno does far more interesting things with his looping...

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robram | 5 November 2009 - 3:48pm

This is not math rock but

it does contains a sensible riposte to the damned young people that may or may not be practising math rockists...


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TedLoaf | 5 November 2009 - 8:07pm

Best of Math Rock compilation:

Cosine Your Name Across my Heart?
American Pi?
Something by Pythagoras Lee Jackson?
Euclid's on the Block?

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badartdog | 5 November 2009 - 8:24pm

I see what you did there

You went off on a tangent.

Ba-dum, and, indeed, tish.

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Joe R | 6 November 2009 - 9:26am

Yes ~ Close to the E=mc2

BAD ~ E-mc2
The Shamen ~ EbenE=mc2 Good
Altern 8 ~ Everything Begins with an E=mc2 (I think it was them?)
E=mc2treme ~ More than Words

sorry but badartdog startE=mc2d it

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James Blast | 5 November 2009 - 8:35pm

I've never heard 'math rock'...

but it sounds like modern prog rock played by nerds with 5 pens in their jacket pockets.

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Patrick Crowther | 6 November 2009 - 10:35am
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