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Mandatory adjectives ahoy!

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There are, it seems, certain artists which are, by some law, always associated with a specific adjective. It's almost as if the tyro music writer is issued with a secret booklet defining how certain artists must be described...

This thread is an attempt to tease out the contents of that booklet.

Van Morrison - curmudgeonly
Neu - a motorik beat
Badfinger - Beatlesesque

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Prince - diminutive

Morrissey - miserable
Pet Shop Boys - arch
Paul Weller - The Modfather
Amy Winehouse - troubled
Gary Glitter - disgraced

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Cadabra | 9 August 2010 - 1:03pm

Also diminutive

Paul Simon.

Evidently it wasn't a tag he was happy with, either.

During a performance at the London Palladium in 1975, Simon reached into his pocket and produced a cutting from the Evening Standard. It seems the paper had described Paul as "diminutive" in a preview of the concert and he was bent on revenge.

The following 10 minutes were spent ripping into the Standard writer responsible in quite bizarre fashion, before the next song was performed.

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mojoworking | 9 August 2010 - 1:54pm

More info please!

In what way was it bizarre? I am most intrigued! :-)

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Patrick Crowther | 9 August 2010 - 1:55pm

From memory

Simon mentioned the hapless writer by name several times and proceeded to make speculative and derogatory comments about his appearance (presumably based on the tiny mug shot alongside the journalist's by line).

It was a tremendous concert however, made even better by a guest appearance by the great Toots Thielemans on mouth organ.

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mojoworking | 9 August 2010 - 2:04pm

I'm jealous...

One of the concerts I'd most like to have seen was Paul Simon at Hammersmith Odeon in 1980 with the One Trick Pony band.

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Patrick Crowther | 9 August 2010 - 2:12pm

I'm not a particularly huge

Paul Simon fan, but I have to say, the sound quality, performance and level of musicianship at those Palladium shows (there were several during December 1975) was the best I've ever seen at any concert.

Read 'em and weep - the band was :

Steve Gadd - Drums
Randy Brecker - Trumpet
Richard Tee - Piano, Vocals
Tony Levin - Bass
Michael Brecker - Saxophone, EWI
Hugh McCracken - Guitars
Toots Thielemans - Harmonica
Phoebe Snow - Vocals

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mojoworking | 9 August 2010 - 2:32pm

I dread to think how much those guys were charging Simon.

Steve Gadd is/was known for demanding session rates even when on tour so, you want him for a month, you're paying him hourly for all that time.

The Brecker Bros and Tony Levin were amongst the very highest paid session players at that time, with Richard Tee not far behind.

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stimpy | 9 August 2010 - 2:53pm

And further to

the "diminutive" business, here's what I found on this website:

http://www.paul-simon.info/

The relevant part of Bob Wolffinden's 1975 review follows:

The second half proceeded in similar style, though we noted that Thielmans did not reappear. Simon then took time out for an´ articulate, witty and caustic attack on an old colleague of ours, James Johnson, who had written in his Evening Standard review that Simon lacked the physical stature normally granted legendary figures.
If there´s one thing Simon´s self-conscious about; to the point of paranoia, it´s his deficiency in the inches department, Johnson came in for a severe lambasting.

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mojoworking | 9 August 2010 - 3:01pm

If I were in a band and could afford Steve Gadd...

I'd just say "Name your price and I'll pay it." Then I'd have Steve Gadd in my band for gawd's sake - "On the drums, Steve Gadd", every night. Worth every penny!

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Patrick Crowther | 9 August 2010 - 6:16pm

all true about Gadd

and his session fees at a certain point in his career, like the 80s. But in 1975, his fees wouldn't have been any more than other players, and Tony Levin (before he took up the Chapman stick) wasn't as in-demand as Gadd or the Brecker Brothers at that point.

In a musical context, in 1975 Gadd was famous (with drummers anyway) for two things: 50 Ways to Leave Your Lover and the middle section of Aja; and if you were a jazz fan, for things like Chick Corea's Night Sprite.

What a line-up

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Nick Duvet | 9 August 2010 - 9:24pm

Paul! Paul!

There's a caterpillar crawling under your nose!

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Patrick Crowther | 9 August 2010 - 9:25pm

Attention all Gadd-worshippers!

Now you can prostrate yourselves before his holy paradiddle - in person!:

http://www.londondrumshow.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&...

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Cadabra | 10 August 2010 - 1:00am

Steve Gadd was, by the mid-70s, one of the most

in-demand session drummers in the US. I was doing sessions around the same era and I know what I was getting paid, and I remember the tales of what he charged.

Never met the chap though, he didn't do many sessions for baked bean adverts :-)

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stimpy | 11 August 2010 - 8:31am

sorry to be a pedant

But Steve Gadd couldn't have been famous for the middle section of Aja in 1975 as it wasn't recorded or released until 1977.

As you were

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Humphrey Plugg | 11 August 2010 - 4:20pm

you are, of course, right

The Dan's drummer of choice was then Jeff Porcaro, shortly to be replaced by Bernard Purdie.

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Nick Duvet | 11 August 2010 - 9:16pm

As far as I know...

You could all be making this sh*t up...
God, I love this place.

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Adman | 11 August 2010 - 10:14pm

I am not going to google/wiki this so I might be wrong...

...but wasn't Jeff Porcaro the singer for "Africa" Hitmakers, Toto?

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Austin | 11 August 2010 - 10:29pm

Drummer.

His brother Steve played keyboards, and other brother Jeff played bass.
My favourite part of the story is this:

Porcaro died in a gardening accident on August 5, 1992, at the age of 38. He was spraying insecticide in his garden and inhaled too much of the spray.

It isn't funny.. but it is very Spın̈al Tap...

I Googled it. Sometimes you have too.

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Adman | 11 August 2010 - 11:58pm

um, sorry

Mike played bass, two brothers called Jeff would just be weird

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Nick Duvet | 12 August 2010 - 1:03am

...no need to apologise...

serves me right for -

1. Getting involved in a discussion where I have no background knowledge
2. Consulting Google
3. Doing so with a head full of red wine

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Adman | 12 August 2010 - 12:11pm

Can we start a campaign, please?

To stop calling Amy Winehouse 'troubled'.
And instead refer to her as 'discombobulated'.

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drakeygirl | 9 August 2010 - 9:41pm

I prefer

"pillock."

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Mark JF | 10 August 2010 - 8:23am

Any artist whose album is advertised on the telly.

Slightly tangential to this, the most ubiquitous mandatory adjective : "The stunning new album."

"Stunning" turns up everywhere. The word is now standard issue and therefore meaningless. It is like PR releases where a mega-corp pronounces itself "delighted".

The latest album by some nice young men with guitars is unlikely to be truly stunning. Surely PR companies can stretch to a thesaurus ?

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Doods | 9 August 2010 - 1:08pm

Morrissey - take your pick

Devious, truculent, unreliable ...

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Tippy Wooder | 9 August 2010 - 1:10pm

The Grateful Dead - lengthy

Sting - tantric
Nick Drake - depressed
Syd Barrett - mad
Nick Rhodes - pretentious
Lemmy - warty
Bette Midler - divine

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Patrick Crowther | 9 August 2010 - 1:26pm

True, but swap them around a bit and

you get a slightly different perspective on these artists

Grateful Dead - tantric
Sting - lengthy
Nick Drake - pretentious
Syd Barrett - warty
Nick Rhodes - depressed
Lemmy - divine
Bette Midler - mad

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Melville | 9 August 2010 - 3:30pm

bowie

Chameleon-like

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Vorgongod | 9 August 2010 - 1:18pm

Geezer with acoustic & gob iron = New Dylan.

Geezer with electric & denim/plaid shirt = New Springsteen.
Scantily clad tuneless strumpet = Pop Princess.

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Pencilsqueezer | 9 August 2010 - 1:24pm

Nickelback

Shit

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David Rothon | 9 August 2010 - 1:48pm

Oh bloody hell...

I hope the Canadians aren't reading this.

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Patrick Crowther | 9 August 2010 - 1:50pm

I did think about putting

Bono - twat in the original post but I thought it would be petty and churlish of me so to do :-)

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stimpy | 9 August 2010 - 2:03pm

Or as Viz referred to him

The little twat with the big heart

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mojoworking | 9 August 2010 - 3:53pm

I thought that was ...

... the big twat with the little willy

or maybe I'm fixing up me muckin' words again

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Johnny Topaz | 9 August 2010 - 8:58pm

Then there's

Jamiroquai - the twat in the hat

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mojoworking | 10 August 2010 - 3:46am

Shit Nickelback

is a tautology.

As in, 'a great big, ugly, offensive, steaming pile of Nickelback'.

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Sam Fiddian | 10 August 2010 - 1:31am

If that describes

Nickelback, I dread to think what words you would choose for the world's worst band, Limp Bizkit?

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mojoworking | 10 August 2010 - 4:00am

An adjective unto itself:

George W Bush's political legacy is utterly Limp Bizkit.

Alternatively:

Australia's performance in the Beldisloe Cup was complete Maroon 5.

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Sam Fiddian | 10 August 2010 - 7:04am

Um...

Neil Young - grizzled, uncompromising
The Stones - ageing rockers
REM - alternative (still? really?)
Kurt Cobain - doomed
Noel Gallagher - light fingered, magpie

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Adman | 9 August 2010 - 1:55pm

Aging

You beat me to it with The Stones. However, once something is pointed out to you...David Hepworth alerted me to the fact that we are *all* aging. Which may be obvious, but I think of it every time I see it in print. It's ridiculous. It's like referring to someone as breathing.

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Lucas Hare | 9 August 2010 - 6:46pm

I prefer Ringo's

still vertical (i.e. not horizontal aka dead)...
Inspired his album 'Vertical Man.'

It is ridiculous, and these days it is normal for 'rockers' to age. Maybe because the Stones were the first band to conspicuously age in public, and stayed together all the while, they got the tag.

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Adman | 9 August 2010 - 6:54pm

Björk

Björk – elfin
Rolling Stones – superannuated

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Brookster | 9 August 2010 - 1:55pm

Rod Stewart

Gravelly-throated.

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Mark JF | 9 August 2010 - 2:40pm

Prince

Diminutive (short arsed to me and you)

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Hoops McCann | 9 August 2010 - 2:45pm

As a fellow short-arse, myself

I like to think of Prince as a 'diminutive lady-magnet.'
He's out there batting for all of us vertically challenged guys!

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Adman | 9 August 2010 - 6:38pm

Lee 'Scratch' Perry

Eccentric.

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Mark JF | 9 August 2010 - 2:55pm

Kylie

seems to split the hacks: is she 'antipodean' or 'fragrant' or 'diminutive' or perhaps all three?

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Mark JF | 9 August 2010 - 2:57pm

A short, smelly, Aussie?

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stimpy | 9 August 2010 - 3:39pm

I think you're confusing her

with Sir Les Patterson. (Allegedly!)

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Mark JF | 9 August 2010 - 4:10pm

Ahem

I think you'll find in 2010 that Kylie is 'Brave Kylie'.

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JoLean | 9 August 2010 - 9:04pm

As Harry Enfield described her

everyone's favourite antipodean sex dwarf

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Hoops McCann | 9 August 2010 - 3:01pm

Black Eyed Peas

- deathless

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Mr Fade | 9 August 2010 - 3:19pm

Ageing rocker

Anyone over the age of 45 who has ever sang or played a guitar/keyboard/bass/drumkit on a piece of popular music

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Beezer | 9 August 2010 - 3:44pm

Hoary old rockers..

could be Status Quo!

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Declan | 9 August 2010 - 4:46pm

Six of the best

Regina Spektor, Muse, Lemmy, Paul Weller, David Bowie and Elvis Costello are quirky, bombastic, indestructible, uncompromising, chameleon-like and bespectacled, respectively.

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Archie Valparaiso | 9 August 2010 - 4:54pm

King Of Pop

The title awarded to Michael Jackson by his people.

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Axekeith | 9 August 2010 - 6:20pm

Jim Morrison

The Lizard King.

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Mark JF | 10 August 2010 - 8:24am

shop-worn

Iggy - leathery, wild-man, deranged
Led Zep - debauched, swaggering
Jim Morrison - shamanistic
Keith - human riff
Mick - rubber-lipped
U2 - anthemic
Bjork - elfin
Pixies - loud/quiet
Beethoven - deaf

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Sven Garlic | 9 August 2010 - 7:03pm

Beethoven

He was so deaf he thought he was a painter.

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clivetemple | 9 August 2010 - 10:21pm

Bruce Springsteen

'Blue Collar'.

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Lucas Hare | 9 August 2010 - 7:55pm

Kinks

Quintessentially English

Sometimes applied to others, often XTC.

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phlanth | 9 August 2010 - 10:30pm

more

joni mitchell - difficult
frank zappa -eccentric
lou reed - caustic , difficult, hostile, belligerent, bellicose, terse, surly, argumentative , hostile, survivor,and err ageing rocker

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Junior Wells | 10 August 2010 - 2:32am

Delving further

into the trusty cliché manual.

Defeated tennis players never simply lose. They are invariably "bundled out" of Wimbledon.

Tributes for the dead are always "flooding in"

Football teams usually "crash out" of the FA Cup

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mojoworking | 10 August 2010 - 3:31am

Couple more;

Cocteau Twins - ethereal

Sigur Ros - gossamer

Slowdive/Ride - sonic cathedral

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Mint | 10 August 2010 - 3:54am

Essential

(Insert artist name here) when applied to any artist's compilation comprising a combination of tracks which are

obvious
very likely one-label-only
stuff where artist has no control over publishing/usage
re-recorded
out of copyright
otherwise random selections
not the artist's most interesting work

There are honourable exceptions, but this is the general usage.

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DLM | 11 August 2010 - 8:54am

'...of their generation'

Tom Jones = windbag
Alison Moyet = well-upholstered
Numan = robotic
Woman from M People = foghorn
P J Harvey = kooky
Val Doonican = cardiganed
Bjork = bonkers
Cliff = Peter Pan
Any woman singer who's not Kylie or Joanna Newsom = Diva
Any man over age of 45 = legendary
Joe Cocker = earthy
Matt Monro = crooner
Liam Gallagher = tit

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Five-Centres | 11 August 2010 - 4:55pm

Any male singer

with a decent baritone voice, if accompanied at any point by strings = Scott Walker influenced

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Humphrey Plugg | 11 August 2010 - 6:30pm

A football one

Expect any Tottenham transfer story to include the words "wheeler-dealing Harry Redknapp".

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Joe Robert | 13 August 2010 - 8:29pm

Another football one

Eric Cantona - mercurial

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duco01 | 13 August 2010 - 10:31pm
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